Shoddy Battle 2 screenshots (client preview) - Page 2

Colin** · May 18th, 2009, 10:16:27 PM

The switching pokemon screen isn't shown in any of the screenshots, so what are you talking about?

Smiller · May 18th, 2009, 10:18:47 PM

I think that you guys should make the HP into a percentage and number. I think that would be so much easier to understand... but differentiate them some how. I don't want to see that 47 HP is lost on my screen and that 23% HP is lost and confuse the two numbers... (People like me tend to do that.)

Jimbo* · May 18th, 2009, 10:18:59 PM

Wow this made a really shitty day a lot better for me.

dialga_438 · May 18th, 2009, 11:15:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Jimbo

Wow this made a really shitty day a lot better for me.

Agreed, same for me.

pkmn-taicho321 · May 18th, 2009, 11:32:15 PM

Amazing interface guys. I can't wait to try out doubles battles with this thing. I wonder what CAP double battles would be like O_O

Gir! · May 18th, 2009, 11:33:48 PM

This certainly is a step in the right direction from SB 1. However, I think you should seriously consider Atyroki suggestions, as, visually, the sprites are a bit.....messy in double battles, other than that, it looks almost perfect

Atyroki · May 18th, 2009, 11:56:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat ColinJF

The switching pokemon screen isn't shown in any of the screenshots, so what are you talking about?

I don't think he was specifically referring to any of the screenshots =/

~~Darkness Wolf~~ · May 19th, 2009, 12:04:12 AM

I think it looks great. Great job and can't wait for it!

*bearzly+* · May 19th, 2009, 12:32:45 AM

I like your suggestions Atyroki. About the sprite placements, it was mostly guess work for me because I haven't played D/P in a while and don't really know how things should be positioned. I guess the general idea is to move the other team to the right

Atyroki · May 19th, 2009, 12:38:10 AM

Well, with the double battles, the sprite placement is difficult and messy, even the stuff in my picture is misplaced slightly (Electivires "box" should actually touch the top of the battle window, however, this appeared awkward as his foot was off the arena as well as some other things) and Alakazam is aligned to the far right of his space for aesthetic reasons

Sgt_Woodsy · May 19th, 2009, 4:04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Atyroki

((And I gotta wonder, what would 6v6 look like?))

I believe it's called a clusterfuck.

Excellent job. I like how the Pokémon and moves stand out now.

Objection · May 19th, 2009, 6:06:07 AM

I think the order of sprites' depth in doubles (from back to front and in the Electivire-Alakazam-Rampardos-Togekiss screenshot) would be Electivire, Alakazam, Togekiss, Rampardos.

Also, if the height of the health bar would have to be reduced if a name were added, I actually wouldn't see a problem with this.

*bearzly+* · May 19th, 2009, 4:29:19 PM

Here is what I have now. You can click on the health bars to toggle between percents and fractions. I don't think names with the health bars is something that needs to be added myself.

eric the espeon · May 19th, 2009, 4:42:37 PM

How do you intend to fit 3/4/5/6 health bars in? Would you just make them thinner/shorter (possibly making the numbers so small as to be hard to read), or have a larger battle window for >2v>2 battles?

That looks great for doubles, though (I am pretty sure) you can't toggle to see the opponents exact HP which seems to be possible with that setup.

die eter · May 19th, 2009, 4:42:52 PM

This is a beautiful interface! I don't have any other suggestions than the ones al ready made, so keep on the amazing work.

Mario With Lasers · May 19th, 2009, 5:00:17 PM

Why does Alakazam have 48 max HP?

And while the whole screen looks nice, there are some things I'm really not liking:

1 - Moves being bolded, it makes harder to read. But I believe this can be edited by ourselves, right?

2 - Being able to know the opponent's max HP. Looking at that battle log, I know Rampardos has 252 EVs in HP; probably other 252 in Attack and the remaining 6 in Speed. We shouldn't be able to get so many information of the opponent's pokémon like that. It would be better to just see the opponent's HP as percentages.

3 - The background. It looks cool and all, but we should have Link Battle as the only background possible. Unless you say Secret and Nature Power won't be affected (that is, the backgrounds will be purely an aesthetic feature), then it should be changed back to Shoddy 1's.

RB Golbat* · May 19th, 2009, 5:04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Arael

Why does Alakazam have 48 max HP?.

That isn't really its Max HP. In the DS, the HP bar is 48 pixels long, so that is saying that alakazam has x out of 48 pixels full, so you get a rough estimate of how much HP it has

Xaqwais · May 19th, 2009, 5:33:18 PM

Maybe moves can have slight coloring based on type, just like the DS interface?

Other than that, I'm loving how the design looks on Macs, can only hope it looks as good on Windows.

Darkvirus · May 19th, 2009, 6:08:13 PM

i have to say all of this looks very nice the layout of the moves and the font editing looks so clear but again with the HP bar for the doubles you may wish to put 1 under the other but not exactly inline with each other so say 25% into the 1st bar the second starts under

*bearzly+* · May 19th, 2009, 6:53:00 PM

Here is a screenshot that I took with Windows 7. Nothing too shocking.

I'm not sure how stacking the health bars vertically helps with anything. The only way you could think of it is right bar for right pokemon and left bar for left pokemon, which is correct. I tried it out like that but it just looked poor and didn't magically add any clarity.

Dimidium · May 19th, 2009, 11:52:17 PM

Wow o.O You guys are doing an incredible job. Is that background the only one that will be available or will randoms one be chosen?

Blue Kirby** · May 20th, 2009, 12:49:04 AM

That looks amazing, good job guys.

DougJustDoug** · May 20th, 2009, 1:18:39 AM

The screenshots look very promising. Thanks for posting this whet everyone's appetites, and thanks for the work you are doing to make Shoddy 2 a reality.

Bam · May 20th, 2009, 2:00:10 AM

Just wanted to say that these pics look great and I'm glad you guys are making tons of progress with the program ;).

ungulateman · May 20th, 2009, 2:49:26 AM

**mind is blown**

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May 18th, 2009, 11:33:48 PM	#31
Gir! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mexico Posts: 382	This certainly is a step in the right direction from SB 1. However, I think you should seriously consider Atyroki suggestions, as, visually, the sprites are a bit.....messy in double battles, other than that, it looks almost perfect __________________ Platinum FC- 0860-9398-5874. In Battles, I may use Legal Hacks, I´ll try to avoid it though My services(approved by TheForgottenSould) Offering HG/SS tutoring, AND hack checking :)

May 19th, 2009, 12:38:10 AM	#35
Atyroki Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: CGY, Alberta Posts: 1,086	Well, with the double battles, the sprite placement is difficult and messy, even the stuff in my picture is misplaced slightly (Electivires "box" should actually touch the top of the battle window, however, this appeared awkward as his foot was off the arena as well as some other things) and Alakazam is aligned to the far right of his space for aesthetic reasons __________________ //He.Makes.Flame//

May 19th, 2009, 6:06:07 AM	#37
Objection Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Who actually puts their location in this field? Posts: 1,168	I think the order of sprites' depth in doubles (from back to front and in the Electivire-Alakazam-Rampardos-Togekiss screenshot) would be Electivire, Alakazam, Togekiss, Rampardos. Also, if the height of the health bar would have to be reduced if a name were added, I actually wouldn't see a problem with this. __________________ 1. Make a claim - for example, "Garchomp is Uber". 2. Back it up with logical reasoning or evidence - a claim that can't be backed up can't be trusted. 3. Avoid logical fallacies at all costs - they make you look stupid. 4. Never assume anything is obvious - if you ask "Do I have to explain xyz?" the answer is always "YES!" How to argue properly

May 18th, 2009, 10:16:27 PM	#26
Colin** Administrator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 722	The switching pokemon screen isn't shown in any of the screenshots, so what are you talking about?

May 19th, 2009, 12:04:12 AM	#33
~~Darkness Wolf~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 222	I think it looks great. Great job and can't wait for it!

May 19th, 2009, 12:32:45 AM	#34
bearzly+ Shoddy Battle dev Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 211	I like your suggestions Atyroki. About the sprite placements, it was mostly guess work for me because I haven't played D/P in a while and don't really know how things should be positioned. I guess the general idea is to move the other team to the right

May 19th, 2009, 4:29:19 PM	#38
bearzly+ Shoddy Battle dev Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 211	Here is what I have now. You can click on the health bars to toggle between percents and fractions. I don't think names with the health bars is something that needs to be added myself.

May 19th, 2009, 4:42:37 PM	#39
eric the espeon Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: around Posts: 2,459	How do you intend to fit 3/4/5/6 health bars in? Would you just make them thinner/shorter (possibly making the numbers so small as to be hard to read), or have a larger battle window for >2v>2 battles? That looks great for doubles, though (I am pretty sure) you can't toggle to see the opponents exact HP which seems to be possible with that setup. __________________ Thinking of learning a new metagame? Little Cup is very fast paced and every turn counts. Learn about it at the Little Cup Forum, Smogon's Little Cup Subforum and the on site Guide. If you want help with a LC analysis ask on #littlecup and I'll see what I can do (sets/accuracy/general advice mostly).

May 19th, 2009, 4:42:52 PM	#40
die eter Join Date: May 2008 Location: hi Posts: 334	This is a beautiful interface! I don't have any other suggestions than the ones al ready made, so keep on the amazing work.

May 19th, 2009, 5:00:17 PM	#41
Mario With Lasers Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: WAWAWAWAWA Posts: 4,063	Why does Alakazam have 48 max HP? And while the whole screen looks nice, there are some things I'm really not liking: 1 - Moves being bolded, it makes harder to read. But I believe this can be edited by ourselves, right? 2 - Being able to know the opponent's max HP. Looking at that battle log, I know Rampardos has 252 EVs in HP; probably other 252 in Attack and the remaining 6 in Speed. We shouldn't be able to get so many information of the opponent's pokémon like that. It would be better to just see the opponent's HP as percentages. 3 - The background. It looks cool and all, but we should have Link Battle as the only background possible. Unless you say Secret and Nature Power won't be affected (that is, the backgrounds will be purely an aesthetic feature), then it should be changed back to Shoddy 1's. __________________ Looking for a flawless NZ Careful Jirachi. PM me if you have one. The Geofront (closed???) \| Friend Code

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Xaqwais Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Avatar from Cartoon!'s awesome game, CAP Battle. Posts: 252	Maybe moves can have slight coloring based on type, just like the DS interface? Other than that, I'm loving how the design looks on Macs, can only hope it looks as good on Windows. __________________ Usually on the CaP server, where Xaqwais Test is my real account, and Xaqwais is my test account.

May 19th, 2009, 6:08:13 PM	#44
Darkvirus Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 121	i have to say all of this looks very nice the layout of the moves and the font editing looks so clear but again with the HP bar for the doubles you may wish to put 1 under the other but not exactly inline with each other so say 25% into the 1st bar the second starts under __________________ I know my spelling and grammer sucks.

May 19th, 2009, 6:53:00 PM	#45
bearzly+ Shoddy Battle dev Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 211	Here is a screenshot that I took with Windows 7. Nothing too shocking. I'm not sure how stacking the health bars vertically helps with anything. The only way you could think of it is right bar for right pokemon and left bar for left pokemon, which is correct. I tried it out like that but it just looked poor and didn't magically add any clarity.

May 19th, 2009, 11:52:17 PM	#46
Dimidium Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 91	Wow o.O You guys are doing an incredible job. Is that background the only one that will be available or will randoms one be chosen?

May 20th, 2009, 12:49:04 AM	#47
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May 20th, 2009, 1:18:39 AM	#48
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May 20th, 2009, 2:49:26 AM	#50
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