Hardest Relative NPC - Page 15

Shiruba · Apr 17th, 2013, 10:57:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat inanimate blob

Good, looks like we've agreed that Miltank is not the hardest thing ever.

But we've forgotten one thing for a little while.

Winona's Altaria just tears things apart if you're not prepared.

Or if you brought your cute little Rock-type and expected to win. :,(

i remember i had trouble beating her with my sceptile, so i left.

the hardest npc for me ever was this hex maniac that was around the entrance to lilycove city.

i simply could not understand why my sceptile, with the moveset of cut/flash/rock smash/strength could not beat this duskull of hers. couldn't even touch it, no matter what i did.

AOPSUser · Apr 17th, 2013, 11:15:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat inanimate blob

I think getting Dratini itself should be considered a hard NPC because the Voltorb Flip Game is FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE

On a related note, Whitney is hard if you're playing and don't realize Miltank has Scrappy. Or that your Geodude is only level 16, and that's just not good enough against flinchhax.

Or basically every single available Pokémon besides Onix.

It took me 30 minutes to set up X-Items so I could solo Lance with my last mon left alive.

It took me 15 minutes to get 2100 Coins in the Game Corner.

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Originally Posted by Fat keleyeemoh

THANK YOU. Seriously, I get so annoyed with the "Whitney's Miltank" circlejerk. If you have a Geodude (which you should, it's pretty good at this point in the game), then you win.

And seriously, no one in this entire thread has mentioned Red?

The first time I played through HG entirely I beat Red on the first try with a lv. 55 Ho-Oh.

Shiruba · Apr 17th, 2013, 11:33:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat AOPSUser

It took me 15 minutes to get 2100 Coins in the Game Corner.

someone's an amazing minesweeper player.

TheCanadianWifier · Apr 20th, 2013, 4:18:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat breh

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...mond_and_Pearl

Double team Zac and Jen can kill you very easily if you're not well-prepared, especially in a Nuzlocke. Gyarados is always scary and Raichu has a very powerful Thunderbolt at this point.

^This, and some of the Veterans on B2W2s Route 23 and Victory Road are regular trainers that I've had trouble with.

Misty has caused me to throw an old GBA SP at a wall, breaking it.

The first time playing through Platinum, Lucian was a real pain..

And of course I have to mention Whitney, that Miltank was op :[

Dcae · Apr 20th, 2013, 6:54:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shiruba

i simply could not understand why my sceptile, with the moveset of cut/flash/rock smash/strength could not beat this duskull of hers. couldn't even touch it, no matter what i did.

LOL ahahahah that must have really sucked to go through.

In my experience, the Voltorb flip game is extremely easy, I save up my coins to obtain lots of TMs. The old Game Corner game in DPPt was impossible though, I never would win it. Ever.

Jerrytt · Apr 22nd, 2013, 11:11:20 PM

Am I the only one who had trouble with the parasol lady Angelica and cool trainer Leonel below fortree city in emerald route 120?

The parasol lady has a castform lvl 30 and the cool trainer Leonel has a manectric with thunder.
And it is a rain route. 100 accuracy thunder and stab 100 base power weather ball. gg

My team core of blaiziken and azumarril got wrecked.

AOPSUser · Apr 22nd, 2013, 11:13:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Jerrytt

Am I the only one who had trouble with the parasol lady Angelica and cool trainer below fortree city in emerald route 120?

The parasol lady has a castform lvl 30 and the cool trainer has a manectric with thunder.
And it is a rain route.

gg to my team core of blaiziken and azumarril.

I had a Sceptile.

Jerrytt · Apr 22nd, 2013, 11:16:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat AOPSUser

I had a Sceptile.

Not all of us were so fortunate when we faced possibly the first in game rain team ever.

Satisfaction · Apr 23rd, 2013, 2:03:20 AM

The dpp game corner games were my favorite play a few times and clefairy comes out and just gives you free coins you may even get explosion

Ritik · Apr 23rd, 2013, 5:26:33 AM

I am quite surprised no one mentioned the doctor on Victory Road. When I saw him, I thought: "Oh, a Doctor! Pokemon will get healed in free!" and frankly, I was wrong. He has a minimize Clefable, which can raise evasion and sweep your entire team. It was hardest battle in my entire life.

jon_eod · Apr 23rd, 2013, 8:07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ritik

I am quite surprised no one mentioned the doctor on Victory Road. When I saw him, I thought: "Oh, a Doctor! Pokemon will get healed in free!" and frankly, I was wrong. He has a minimize Clefable, which can raise evasion and sweep your entire team. It was hardest battle in my entire life.

Aura Sphere Lucario. 90bp + stab + nomiss.

Shiruba · Apr 23rd, 2013, 11:00:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Satisfaction

The dpp game corner games were my favorite play a few times and clefairy comes out and just gives you free coins you may even get explosion

explosion? does the machine blow up or something?

that'd be amusing. your character looking at where the thing was with a ouo expression, covered in ashes.

AOPSUser · Apr 23rd, 2013, 11:48:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ritik

I am quite surprised no one mentioned the doctor on Victory Road. When I saw him, I thought: "Oh, a Doctor! Pokemon will get healed in free!" and frankly, I was wrong. He has a minimize Clefable, which can raise evasion and sweep your entire team. It was hardest battle in my entire life.

I didn't even have to use Lucario. Haxorus just OHKOed that thing.

Ritik · Apr 24th, 2013, 12:05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat jon_eod

Aura Sphere Lucario. 90bp + stab + nomiss.

At that time it didn't had a Lucario, I had a Mienshao, and I was screwed up really bad.

Bunselpower · Apr 24th, 2013, 12:07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shiruba

explosion? does the machine blow up or something?

that'd be amusing. your character looking at where the thing was with a ouo expression, covered in ashes.

No, the TM for Explosion. If you get 10 Clefairy rounds in a row, not only do you clear about 2500 coins, but you get the Explosion TM. I got to something like level 19 on that game once with a regular clefairy (and yes, you can get a shiny, regular, and ditto pretending to be a Clefairy). It was a cool game, never would have figured that out on my own though.

celever · Apr 24th, 2013, 2:17:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ritik

I am quite surprised no one mentioned the doctor on Victory Road. When I saw him, I thought: "Oh, a Doctor! Pokemon will get healed in free!" and frankly, I was wrong. He has a minimize Clefable, which can raise evasion and sweep your entire team. It was hardest battle in my entire life.

Uh, I found him really easy to take out with an emolga... and emolga has bad stats.

I suppose aerial ace helped.

The doctor I found hard in that game is actually a nurse in twist mountain with a blissey/chansey (can't remember) when all of my physical attackers has fainted. o_o

callforjudgement · Apr 24th, 2013, 6:12:28 AM

For what it's worth, I just did a casual speedrun of Black 1, and based on the only battles I lost, I'm reasonably sure that the hardest relative trainer in Black 1 is Elesa. The main reason for this is that she was the only vaguely difficult trainer who outsped me all game.

Darkhuaza517 · Apr 24th, 2013, 6:44:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat callforjudgement

For what it's worth, I just did a casual speedrun of Black 1, and based on the only battles I lost, I'm reasonably sure that the hardest relative trainer in Black 1 is Elesa. The main reason for this is that she was the only vaguely difficult trainer who outsped me all game.

The best way to overcome her and her Gym is to use Torment Sandile and Krokorok. By using Torment, you prevent her Pokémon from spamming Aerial Ace, allowing your Sandile/Krokorok to spam away with Rock Tomb and/or Bite, all the while attaining Moxie boosts. That's how I swept her in Black.
In Black 2, my Krokorok was already faster and just OHKOed everything.

elchupo · Apr 24th, 2013, 7:12:01 AM

I dunno what the big deal with Whitney's Miltank is/was. I can't remember ever having problems with it, in gen 2 or 4.

I will say however, that I stuggled intensely against Cynthia. Granted, I was still fresh then and didn't really know the in's and outs of Physical/Special split or what stats they corresponded to and thus my team largely sucked, but to this day I've never had to reset as many times as I did when I fought her.

Also, her team was RIDICULOUS. Probably as close to a "metagame" team we've seen yet.

JSND · Apr 24th, 2013, 8:50:18 AM

At the time I first fought Cynthia, I already learned that Gyarados exist....

That.... kinda killed the whole thing

Also Red is difficult in a rather stupid way. Despite the fact that he is OH SO OVERLEVELLED, Blastoise and Charizard is about the only troublesome pokemon on his team, and even then I can simply tweak my team to include Water Types somewhere, such as Suicune that you can catch for free, and trivialize both of those

Flareon · Apr 24th, 2013, 12:02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat elchupo

I dunno what the big deal with Whitney's Miltank is/was. I can't remember ever having problems with it, in gen 2 or 4.

I will say however, that I stuggled intensely against Cynthia. Granted, I was still fresh then and didn't really know the in's and outs of Physical/Special split or what stats they corresponded to and thus my team largely sucked, but to this day I've never had to reset as many times as I did when I fought her.

Also, her team was RIDICULOUS. Probably as close to a "metagame" team we've seen yet.

Yeah, Cynthia came completely out of left field. Her pokemon were quite a bit high in level, and Garchomp. Cynthia's Garchomp is probably on the same level as Whitney's Miltank, if not close.

GottaLoveMeloetta · Apr 28th, 2013, 11:59:00 AM

Claire. I almost broke my HeartGold cartridge and Nintendo DS.
f0ck off claire

She kicks off with the Gyarados. No problem. My Dragonair from the Game Corner can take it pretty easily.

Then she switches to her 2 Dragonairs. Sure, Dragonair takes it.

Kingdra. And then, Dragonair was suddenly dead. I freaked out. Dragonair was my only chance. I desperately click on my Smoochum. Outspeeded. OHKO`d.

f0ck

I click the shiny Gyarados in hope I can kill it. OHKOd.

f0ck2.

My Ditto, in a hope to pick her Kingdra off. It makes Kingdra in the red-zone. And then: CLAIRE USED AN HYPERPOTION. DITTO = DEAD.

I go onto my Pidgeot. It has no chance. Dead.
I go into my bag, and see I have a revive. YES! GO GO GYARADOS!
I switch in Kingler then. OHKOd.

Gyarados must do this. I wasted all my master potions. I was paralyzed (I forgot she had 1 dragonair living). I killed the Kingdra. I yelled and screamed of happiness.

Then the final battle. Gyarados had to take down Dragonair.
As Dragonair has 1 hitpoint left, I am with a huge smile. I could almost cry of happiness. And then, Gyarados is paralyzed.
Oh well, Gyarados is full health :D
Dragonair used Dragon Pulse! A critical hit!

My right eye twitched. My face turned into pokerface.
I screamed AAAAAAAAAAAAAH and turned off my DS.
f0ck you

I never played HeartGold until that moment anymore. I`ll stick around with White 2.
I will never beat HeartGold. Not unless Claire is deleted from the cartridge.
I hate her Gyarados.
I hate her Dragonairs.
I hate her Kingdra.
I hate her Hyper Potions.
I hate her.

Apr 24th, 2013, 6:12:28 AM	#367
callforjudgement Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 300	For what it's worth, I just did a casual speedrun of Black 1, and based on the only battles I lost, I'm reasonably sure that the hardest relative trainer in Black 1 is Elesa. The main reason for this is that she was the only vaguely difficult trainer who outsped me all game. __________________ Pokémon spinoffs: Ranger You freak out when you hear a Clamperl; Mystery Dungeon You freak out when you see a Ledian. <Sunflora> So let me get this straight: you're sending me into a dungeon full of lava, to capture a Haunter which is part poison type?

Apr 24th, 2013, 8:50:18 AM	#370
JSND Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 877 Indonesia	At the time I first fought Cynthia, I already learned that Gyarados exist.... That.... kinda killed the whole thing Also Red is difficult in a rather stupid way. Despite the fact that he is OH SO OVERLEVELLED, Blastoise and Charizard is about the only troublesome pokemon on his team, and even then I can simply tweak my team to include Water Types somewhere, such as Suicune that you can catch for free, and trivialize both of those __________________ I use Deoxys-D before it was cool Yet i still use Torterra in OU

Apr 28th, 2013, 11:59:00 AM	#372
GottaLoveMeloetta Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 67 the Netherlands	Claire. I almost broke my HeartGold cartridge and Nintendo DS. f0ck off claire She kicks off with the Gyarados. No problem. My Dragonair from the Game Corner can take it pretty easily. Then she switches to her 2 Dragonairs. Sure, Dragonair takes it. Kingdra. And then, Dragonair was suddenly dead. I freaked out. Dragonair was my only chance. I desperately click on my Smoochum. Outspeeded. OHKO`d. f0ck I click the shiny Gyarados in hope I can kill it. OHKOd. f0ck2. My Ditto, in a hope to pick her Kingdra off. It makes Kingdra in the red-zone. And then: CLAIRE USED AN HYPERPOTION. DITTO = DEAD. I go onto my Pidgeot. It has no chance. Dead. I go into my bag, and see I have a revive. YES! GO GO GYARADOS! I switch in Kingler then. OHKOd. Gyarados must do this. I wasted all my master potions. I was paralyzed (I forgot she had 1 dragonair living). I killed the Kingdra. I yelled and screamed of happiness. Then the final battle. Gyarados had to take down Dragonair. As Dragonair has 1 hitpoint left, I am with a huge smile. I could almost cry of happiness. And then, Gyarados is paralyzed. Oh well, Gyarados is full health :D Dragonair used Dragon Pulse! A critical hit! My right eye twitched. My face turned into pokerface. I screamed AAAAAAAAAAAAAH and turned off my DS. f0ck you I never played HeartGold until that moment anymore. I`ll stick around with White 2. I will never beat HeartGold. Not unless Claire is deleted from the cartridge. I hate her Gyarados. I hate her Dragonairs. I hate her Kingdra. I hate her Hyper Potions. I hate her. __________________ 1vs1 Ultra! Darknesscrusher Does celever have a thread that isn't shitty? Darknesscrusher OMG

Apr 22nd, 2013, 11:11:20 PM	#356
Jerrytt Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4	Am I the only one who had trouble with the parasol lady Angelica and cool trainer Leonel below fortree city in emerald route 120? The parasol lady has a castform lvl 30 and the cool trainer Leonel has a manectric with thunder. And it is a rain route. 100 accuracy thunder and stab 100 base power weather ball. gg My team core of blaiziken and azumarril got wrecked.

Apr 23rd, 2013, 2:03:20 AM	#359
Satisfaction Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 188 America	The dpp game corner games were my favorite play a few times and clefairy comes out and just gives you free coins you may even get explosion

Apr 23rd, 2013, 5:26:33 AM	#360
Ritik Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 9 India	I am quite surprised no one mentioned the doctor on Victory Road. When I saw him, I thought: "Oh, a Doctor! Pokemon will get healed in free!" and frankly, I was wrong. He has a minimize Clefable, which can raise evasion and sweep your entire team. It was hardest battle in my entire life.

Apr 24th, 2013, 7:12:01 AM	#369
elchupo Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 367	I dunno what the big deal with Whitney's Miltank is/was. I can't remember ever having problems with it, in gen 2 or 4. I will say however, that I stuggled intensely against Cynthia. Granted, I was still fresh then and didn't really know the in's and outs of Physical/Special split or what stats they corresponded to and thus my team largely sucked, but to this day I've never had to reset as many times as I did when I fought her. Also, her team was RIDICULOUS. Probably as close to a "metagame" team we've seen yet.