links, links, everywhere

je5us · Jul 24th, 2012, 1:13:10 AM

So, I think including more links in analyses would be pretty useful for newbies/lazy people. Especially in the team options/checks and couners sections.

Using Haxorus as an example, it mentions brick break (or probably low kick now) is mainly for Ferrothorn. that'd be a great spot to link to Ferrothorn's analysis. And later in the checks and counters it mentions Skarmory as the best counter to Haxorus. If I'm not familiar with Skarmory then I pretty much have to go search for its analysis, linking to it would save time and effort and then you could check Skarmory's counters and find a link to Magnezone. Boom, in like 3 clicks i've read a few analyses and built up a potential 3rd of my team (in the few mins spent reading Haxorus/Magnezone seems a solid enough combo).

Now seems a pretty good time to implement this as well, you know, before the black 2 and white 2 changes get put in. you could also implement it gradually, instead of all at once, filling up links when a pokemon gets updated. So i don't really see a reason not to do it.

TrollFreak · Jul 24th, 2012, 1:16:24 AM

agreeing with this, though this was brought up before. wonder if we'll do it now...

***Oglemi**** · Jul 24th, 2012, 1:28:18 AM

This is actually a planned project and work will begin once we're caught up with the release of BW2 afaik.

If you would like to start working on this, I can detail the plans for it in PM and get you set up working on smaller stuff like Items and Moves until we're ready to do analyses.

I've delayed doing this in order to try and finish the current Moves/Items/Abilities project as well, but save for the Related Moves sections, that is mostly complete. So starting this wouldn't be a bad thing.

EDIT: firecape claims he can make a script to make this project like a million times easier. Will wait to see if he can get it to work or not.

Omicron · Jul 24th, 2012, 2:37:33 AM

or we could just get all of our slaves called Pre-contributors to add in all the links for us :>

TrollFreak · Jul 24th, 2012, 2:40:07 AM

I agree with Omi's idea(me agreeing with Omi :o)

firecape · Jul 24th, 2012, 3:13:56 AM

nope I made a script for it ;]

(I'm not that good with scripting so its kinda still a bit manual but you just c/p the analysis/movedescription/whatever into a dialog box and it spits out a version with the links replacing the first mention of the pokemon/move/item)

But yeah slaves will still be needed, there's a lot of analyses................

***Jellicent**** · Jul 24th, 2012, 8:06:08 AM

Awesome ^.^

Does it work for various metagames (such as UU, RU, and past gens)? If so, let me know. I'm always up for slave labor :P

Unbreakable · Jul 25th, 2012, 5:35:13 PM

Sounds like a quick way to get a badge. I'm in.

(@OP: Magnezone is often paired with powerful Dragon-type attackers to clear out enemy steel-types in preparation for a sweep in the classic "drag-mag" combo.)

Drifblim · Jul 25th, 2012, 6:42:22 PM

Would be willing to help do this, at least for VGC where some certain sets can be very common, it would be remarkably helpful. Doesn't matter which part of it I would work on though

Mafeking · Jul 25th, 2012, 7:39:48 PM

Posting out of curiosity to see Oglemi's/firecape's thoughts on also making them link to articles, as can be seen in ADV Celebi's analysis, which links to the Baton Pass guide when mentioning Celebi as a good Baton Passer.

p.s. yeah I'll help later this week if this gets going

je5us · Jul 26th, 2012, 12:43:02 AM

well, i wouldn't be able to do anything for a week (got uni and stuff). hit me up with a pm though oglemi

**RitterCat** · Jul 26th, 2012, 4:59:48 AM

willing slave

sirndpt · Jul 26th, 2012, 7:36:54 AM

did someone say slave labor !

Layell · Jul 26th, 2012, 9:48:21 AM

I'd also be willing to assist with checking articles and such. Perhaps the links could also preview a small thing when the mouse is over it, like with the attack the damage, pp, effect and effect rate, and an item just what it does. I'm not sure how much extra work that would be but could also save some time too.

Lady Salamence · Jul 26th, 2012, 3:38:55 PM

Im willing to help if anyone wants me to

***Great Sage***** · Jul 26th, 2012, 3:53:51 PM

Unfortunately, all slaves must be badged slaves in order for this to be efficiently done.

complete legitimacy · Jul 26th, 2012, 4:12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Omicron

or we could just get all of our slaves called Pre-contributors to add in all the links for us :>

challenge accepted

ENZ0 · Jul 26th, 2012, 4:27:43 PM

Sayonara · Jul 26th, 2012, 6:05:32 PM

i'm badged, so...joining as a slave ! :D

Drifblim · Jul 26th, 2012, 7:20:21 PM

aw man would love to help but can't because of the no badge issue, oh well

dragonboy52 · Jul 27th, 2012, 6:09:35 AM

+1 slave

firecape · Jul 27th, 2012, 4:45:15 PM

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...31#post4335131 need slaves

***Birkal**** · Jul 28th, 2012, 4:23:03 PM

Locking this. Thanks to everyone for your help and interest! Hopefully we can get this off the ground; methinks it's a great suggestion. If anyone has something to add, I'd recommend posting it in the topic firecape linked to above. If you really need to make a post in this topic that cannot be posted elsewhere, send me a PM and I can unlock it for you.

Jul 24th, 2012, 1:13:10 AM	#1
je5us Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2	links, links, everywhere So, I think including more links in analyses would be pretty useful for newbies/lazy people. Especially in the team options/checks and couners sections. Using Haxorus as an example, it mentions brick break (or probably low kick now) is mainly for Ferrothorn. that'd be a great spot to link to Ferrothorn's analysis. And later in the checks and counters it mentions Skarmory as the best counter to Haxorus. If I'm not familiar with Skarmory then I pretty much have to go search for its analysis, linking to it would save time and effort and then you could check Skarmory's counters and find a link to Magnezone. Boom, in like 3 clicks i've read a few analyses and built up a potential 3rd of my team (in the few mins spent reading Haxorus/Magnezone seems a solid enough combo). Now seems a pretty good time to implement this as well, you know, before the black 2 and white 2 changes get put in. you could also implement it gradually, instead of all at once, filling up links when a pokemon gets updated. So i don't really see a reason not to do it.

Jul 24th, 2012, 1:16:24 AM	#2
TrollFreak (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ (╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,248 New York born, New York proud	agreeing with this, though this was brought up before. wonder if we'll do it now... __________________ Work Ever wanted to contribute to Smogon? Visit the Contributions and Corrections forum! ~SNOVERS~

Jul 24th, 2012, 1:28:18 AM	#3
*Oglemi I crashed my car into the bridge, I don't care Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,525 ~(^.^)~	This is actually a planned project and work will begin once we're caught up with the release of BW2 afaik. If you would like to start working on this, I can detail the plans for it in PM and get you set up working on smaller stuff like Items and Moves until we're ready to do analyses. I've delayed doing this in order to try and finish the current Moves/Items/Abilities project as well, but save for the Related Moves sections, that is mostly complete. So starting this wouldn't be a bad thing. EDIT: firecape claims he can make a script to make this project like a million times easier. Will wait to see if he can get it to work or not. __________________ <shade> what an intense scrotum Last edited by Oglemi; Jul 24th, 2012 at 2:31:00 AM.

Jul 24th, 2012, 2:37:33 AM	#4
Omicron Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,041 Seattle, WA	or we could just get all of our slaves called Pre-contributors to add in all the links for us :> __________________

Jul 24th, 2012, 2:40:07 AM	#5
TrollFreak (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ (╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,248 New York born, New York proud	I agree with Omi's idea(me agreeing with Omi :o) __________________ Work Ever wanted to contribute to Smogon? Visit the Contributions and Corrections forum! ~SNOVERS~

Jul 24th, 2012, 3:13:56 AM	#6
firecape This is the end... Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,048 This storys old, but it goes on and on until we disappear	nope I made a script for it ;] (I'm not that good with scripting so its kinda still a bit manual but you just c/p the analysis/movedescription/whatever into a dialog box and it spits out a version with the links replacing the first mention of the pokemon/move/item) But yeah slaves will still be needed, there's a lot of analyses................ __________________ I DONT DESERVE YOU

Jul 24th, 2012, 8:06:08 AM	#7
*Jellicent is 60% water Super Moderator** Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,654 (80 PROOF) Mentor	Awesome ^.^ Does it work for various metagames (such as UU, RU, and past gens)? If so, let me know. I'm always up for slave labor :P __________________ ^.^

Jul 25th, 2012, 5:35:13 PM	#8
Unbreakable Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 349 A paper bag	Sounds like a quick way to get a badge. I'm in. (@OP: Magnezone is often paired with powerful Dragon-type attackers to clear out enemy steel-types in preparation for a sweep in the classic "drag-mag" combo.) __________________ But I got wiped out with no saving grace at all! And then I'm told I don't have any talent?! Man...

Jul 25th, 2012, 6:42:22 PM	#9
Drifblim Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 549 Brooklyn	Would be willing to help do this, at least for VGC where some certain sets can be very common, it would be remarkably helpful. Doesn't matter which part of it I would work on though

Jul 26th, 2012, 12:43:02 AM	#11
je5us Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2	well, i wouldn't be able to do anything for a week (got uni and stuff). hit me up with a pm though oglemi

Jul 26th, 2012, 4:59:48 AM	#12
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Jul 26th, 2012, 7:36:54 AM	#13
sirndpt ♥ Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 980	did someone say slave labor !

Jul 26th, 2012, 9:48:21 AM	#14
Layell Alas poor player! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,822 I knew him, Neku, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.	I'd also be willing to assist with checking articles and such. Perhaps the links could also preview a small thing when the mouse is over it, like with the attack the damage, pp, effect and effect rate, and an item just what it does. I'm not sure how much extra work that would be but could also save some time too. __________________ #Orangeislands movie nights: The best way to watch the Pokemon films and specials! * Moderator on smogon's minecraft server * Goodnight Sweet Prince PS/Smogon April Fools 2013: file, credits, and server mode

Jul 26th, 2012, 3:38:55 PM	#15
Lady Salamence radda radda Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,286 ROFL ROFL ROFL	Im willing to help if anyone wants me to __________________ oh dear [sigpic] broke

Jul 26th, 2012, 3:53:51 PM	#16
*Great Sage* Administrator** Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,872 Boston, MA Mentor	Unfortunately, all slaves must be badged slaves in order for this to be efficiently done.

Jul 26th, 2012, 4:27:43 PM	#18
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Jul 26th, 2012, 6:05:32 PM	#19
Sayonara into the new world Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 717	i'm badged, so...joining as a slave ! :D

Jul 26th, 2012, 7:20:21 PM	#20
Drifblim Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 549 Brooklyn	aw man would love to help but can't because of the no badge issue, oh well

Jul 27th, 2012, 6:09:35 AM	#21
dragonboy52 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,964	+1 slave __________________

Jul 27th, 2012, 4:45:15 PM	#22
firecape This is the end... Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,048 This storys old, but it goes on and on until we disappear	http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...31#post4335131 need slaves __________________ I DONT DESERVE YOU

Jul 28th, 2012, 4:23:03 PM	#23
*Birkal We have the technology. Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,013 The Mentor	Locking this. Thanks to everyone for your help and interest! Hopefully we can get this off the ground; methinks it's a great suggestion. If anyone has something to add, I'd recommend posting it in the topic firecape linked to above. If you really need to make a post in this topic that cannot be posted elsewhere, send me a PM and I can unlock it for you. __________________