Interesting Pokemon Trivia

LeviLamprey · Mar 18th, 2011, 11:54:55 PM

Sorry if this thread already exists or is in the wrong place, but I'm 99.99% sure there hasn't been one for a VERY long time.

EDIT: I am genuinely surprised at how popular this thread is. And one made by me especially! Over 90,000 views!

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I thought it might be interesting to compile a large amount of odd, unique or even discriminatory observations about Pokemon (battling, aesthetic, resemblances, names etc.). Well, there isn't much else to say here so I'll start off.

Ferrothorn is, design-wise, possibly the most confusing Pokemon ever created. The best explanation to date is a flattened durian fruit that can climb walls (well done, Bulbapedia!).

Combee can pack together in clumps to sleep and collect honey, but their wings remain intact and undamaged despite their frailty.

Cubchoo's mucus is the raw material behind all of its attacks. Essentially, every move it uses is made of or derived from its snot or the energy it produces!

Looking at Watchog's eyes in its sprite can induce headaches (this is probably just me from staring at Serebii and Arkeis, though).

Klink's shiny form is made of copper.

In Pokemon HeartGold and Soulsilver, Diglett and Dugtrio 'jump' underneath Hurdles and can participate in Lamp Jump and Disc Catch, but their feet are obscured to maintain the mystery of what is underneath. Also, all sprites in B/W never change the position of the ground and rubble surrounding their bodies.

Zebstrika · Mar 19th, 2011, 1:22:24 AM

Is it funny how legendary pokemon must be called by some random, otherwise insignificant orb or jewel and non-legendary pokemon may appear whenever they want?

According to the pokedex, Glalie's core is made from rock, but the only rock move it ever learns is Rollout. It also isn't a rock type.

Lapras learns SolarBeam in RBY but never again.

Ampharos is unable to learn Tail Glow despite the pokedex saying its tail glows so brightly it can be seen from space or across an ocean. Notice the fridge logic as it has to light up space, which is a vacuum, to be seen from across the ocean.

**voodoo pimp** · Mar 19th, 2011, 1:58:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zebstrika

Notice the fridge logic as it has to light up space, which is a vacuum, to be seen from across the ocean.

Not true. Some of the light would be scattered back into the atmosphere and could make it across. It'd still have to be really damn bright, though.

ToastTyrant13 · Mar 19th, 2011, 2:03:18 AM

Until B/W, Scizor's backsprite never feautured it's wings. Only the wing bases.

Stunfisk is the only fish pokemon that is weak to water(yes, he is a flounder).

Shelmet and Karrablast are the first pokemon to only evolve if traded for another specific pokemon.

Zebstrika is the new "last pokemon" in alphabetical order.

Pikachu has been the first non-5th Gen pokemon featured in B/W (Armaldo being the second. Charizard being the third. Surely there are more.).

Munna was actually referenced in a past generation by a little girl who "Wants a pretty pink pokemon with a flower design", making it the only pokemon to ever have a pre-appearance before its own generation was released.

Zebstrika · Mar 19th, 2011, 2:51:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Not true. Some of the light would be scattered back into the atmosphere and could make it across. It'd still have to be really damn bright, though.

Are you sure? I think the ocean is too big and the Earth curves too much for it to bounce off the atmosphere (unless it bounced many times).

In the museum in Nacrene city, there is a statue of a "Dragon type Pokemon" indicating the museum does not know what it is. However, it clearly resembles a Dragonite.

No pokemon has a base stat total between (inclusively) 601 and 659. Several pokemon, including pseudo-legendaries and the 6 existing legendaries with 100 in each stat have a BST of 600, while Kyurem has a BST of 660.

Similarly, no pokemon has a base stat total between 681 and 719.

Espeon and the lake guardians have a red gem on each of their heads, but they are unable to learn Power Gem.

Despite Electric seeming to be the speedy type, all Electric typed moves have 0 priority.

**voodoo pimp** · Mar 19th, 2011, 3:09:07 AM

Depends on the size of the ocean, and some amount of light will be scattered across any distance, though it may become too hard to see after a point.

Ssargon · Mar 19th, 2011, 3:37:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat ToastTyrant13

Zebstrika is the new "last pokemon" in alphabetical order.

Zubat and Zweilous both come after Zebstrika o.o

**R_N** · Mar 19th, 2011, 3:38:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat LevitatingLamprey

Ferrothorn is, design-wise, possibly the most confusing Pokemon ever created. The best explanation to date is a flattened durian fruit that can climb walls (well done, Bulbapedia!).

It's more likely flattened out burrs, the same thing Ferroseed is based on.

Look, some of them are even elongated like Ferrothorn.
Not entirely sure why they decided to give it vine/tendrils attaching to more burrs but hey

Something I find amusing: Zweilous is comparable, stat-wise, to Watchog. They even have the same attack stat, and negligable differences in several other stats.

ToastTyrant13 · Mar 19th, 2011, 3:51:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ssargon

Zubat and Zweilous both come after Zebstrika o.o

...oh yeah. *facepalm* XD

Wait...which one's Zweilous?

E: nevermind!

Triggz · Mar 19th, 2011, 4:25:58 AM

yeah it kinda does look like a durian

SuperJOCKE · Mar 19th, 2011, 5:31:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zebstrika

Zekrom has a rocket on its tail yet it is unable to learn any decent fire move (like Flare Blitz).

It's not a rocket... It's a generator. Just like Reshiram's tail is a torch.

Generator = Electricity
Torch = Fire

min min · Mar 19th, 2011, 5:39:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat ToastTyrant13

Zebstrika is the new "last pokemon" in alphabetical order.

Maybe it's the last fully evolved.

TM13IceBeam · Mar 19th, 2011, 6:55:09 AM

until now, Scizor is the only Pokemon who does not have a BST change after evolution(it's simply taking 40 points of Scyther's Speed and placing them in Attack and Defense :/)

Hitmonlee cannot learn Triple Kick despite the Pokedex stating that it can use every single kicking move.

also Ferrothorn imo looks more like a crushed durian.

~~PlatinumDude~~ · Mar 19th, 2011, 8:48:41 AM

Ferrothorn is a flattened durian with 3 spiky whips. With an I am not amused expression.

Archeops' bases stat total matches its National Dex number (567)

Zweilous evolves the latest out of all Pokemon (level 64), while Larvesta takes the longest to go through a single stage before evolving (it evolves at level 59).

Hydreigon is the only pseudo-legendary whose Attack isn't higher than its Special Attack; it's the opposite. It's also the only pseudo-legendary with only 1 ability (the other 5 pseudo-legends gained an ability from the Dream World).

Irysa · Mar 19th, 2011, 8:53:20 AM

there were exactly 251 moves in gen II, same as the number of pokemon.

partly connected to how the celebi egg glitch works in those games.

Cherub Agent · Mar 19th, 2011, 8:55:51 AM

i thought ferrothorn was meant to be a land mine...

SMZ · Mar 19th, 2011, 9:17:27 AM

Zangoose while clearly having sharp claws, has never and still doesn't learn the move "Cut".

Regirock's Pokedex states when a part of its body is chopped, it can attach to rocks to heal itself, yet it doesn't have the ability Regenerator or an ability that makes Rock-typed move heal it.

Steelix does not learn Iron Defense despite having a high defense stat and being a steel type.

SuperJOCKE · Mar 19th, 2011, 9:24:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat SMZ

Regirock's Pokedex states when a part of its body is chopped, it can attach to rocks to heal itself, yet it doesn't have the ability Regenerator or an ability that makes Rock-typed move heal it.

It repairs itself. Not heal.

TM13IceBeam · Mar 19th, 2011, 9:52:20 AM

The Pokes that should have Shell Smash, but don't:

Squirtle
Metapod
Kakuna
Lapras
Shuckle
Pupitar
Silcoon
Cascoon
Shelgon
Turtwig
Shieldon
Swadloon
Whirlipede

*proceeds to hide behind flame wall*

~~PlatinumDude~~ · Mar 19th, 2011, 10:10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

The Pokes that should have Shell Smash, but don't:

Squirtle
Metapod
Kakuna
Lapras
Shuckle
Pupitar
Silcoon
Cascoon
Shelgon
Turtwig
Shieldon
Swadloon
Whirlipede

*proceeds to hide behind flame wall*

Metapod, Kakuna, Silcoon, Cascoon, Swadloon and Whirlipede don't look like they can learn Shell Smash because they don't have hard shells (the cocoon Pokemon have an exoskeleton, which isn't as sturdy as a shell; Swadloon is wrapped with a leaf and Whirlipede is just curled up). I also don't see a shell anywhere on Shieldon, and no, its face shield doesn't count. The rest of the list, however, are good candidates for the move.

Another fact: Eelektrik is the only member of the Tynamo line who can learn level up moves as it levels up. Tynamo and Eelektross can't learn level up moves and are stuck with what their current moveset is, unless you use a Heart Scale to make Eelektross relearn Crush Claw.

SMZ · Mar 19th, 2011, 10:19:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat SuperJOCKE

It repairs itself. Not heal.

Well that's why I said "or an ability that heals when hit by a Rock-type move, since that'd be more accurate than regeneration".

Pwnemon · Mar 19th, 2011, 10:33:14 AM

Technically speaking, Ferrothorn has a less powerful Gyro Ball than Ferroseed due to the Speed difference.
This also makes Ferroseed's the most powerful Gyro Ball in the game.
Only three Pokemon have ever changed their typing between generations, and all were Electric types.
Between 108 and 116, there is a Pokemon with every base Speed. No other stat exhibits such a long straight.

I just played a Pokemon trivia with some friends last night, and though there are more, these were the most interesting.

Showsni · Mar 19th, 2011, 10:39:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Pwnemon

Technically speaking, Ferrothorn has a less powerful Gyro Ball than Ferroseed due to the Speed difference.
This also makes Ferroseed's the most powerful Gyro Ball in the game.

Not really... Ferrothorn has 94 attack compared to Ferroseed's 50, and Gyro Ball is likely to reach its max power (150) against most of the same targets anyway.

Pwnemon · Mar 19th, 2011, 10:41:28 AM

Hence the technically- Ferroseed can have a minimum 22 speed and max 218 attack, whereas Ferrothorn can have a minimum 40 speed and max 315 attack.

Gneiss is nice · Mar 19th, 2011, 10:48:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat ToastTyrant13

Munna was actually referenced in a past generation by a little girl who "Wants a pretty pink pokemon with a flower design", making it the only pokemon to ever have a pre-appearance before its own generation was released.

That's not true if you include the anime.

Ho-oh made an appearance in the very first episode of the anime, yet it wasn't introduced until Gen II. Marill was also introduced before GSC came out (anyone else remember the whole "Pikablu" speculation?) and Phanpy also appeared in the first Pokemon movie, before GSC came out.

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Mar 18th, 2011, 11:54:55 PM	#1
LeviLamprey Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,205	Interesting Pokemon Trivia Sorry if this thread already exists or is in the wrong place, but I'm 99.99% sure there hasn't been one for a VERY long time. EDIT: I am genuinely surprised at how popular this thread is. And one made by me especially! Over 90,000 views! MOST CHANGED POKEMON SPRITE (HGSS-BW) COMPETITION-prize is admiration and gratitude from Smogoners Current holder: Nosepass Gen 3-Gen 4 by Togelover I thought it might be interesting to compile a large amount of odd, unique or even discriminatory observations about Pokemon (battling, aesthetic, resemblances, names etc.). Well, there isn't much else to say here so I'll start off. Ferrothorn is, design-wise, possibly the most confusing Pokemon ever created. The best explanation to date is a flattened durian fruit that can climb walls (well done, Bulbapedia!). Combee can pack together in clumps to sleep and collect honey, but their wings remain intact and undamaged despite their frailty. Cubchoo's mucus is the raw material behind all of its attacks. Essentially, every move it uses is made of or derived from its snot or the energy it produces! Looking at Watchog's eyes in its sprite can induce headaches (this is probably just me from staring at Serebii and Arkeis, though). Klink's shiny form is made of copper. In Pokemon HeartGold and Soulsilver, Diglett and Dugtrio 'jump' underneath Hurdles and can participate in Lamp Jump and Disc Catch, but their feet are obscured to maintain the mystery of what is underneath. Also, all sprites in B/W never change the position of the ground and rubble surrounding their bodies. __________________ CAP ASB Shenanigans Pikurei Forums (12:01:01) EmeraldOx: we can be clumsybuddies ;w; Last edited by LeviLamprey; Apr 28th, 2011 at 4:18:26 AM. Reason: It's my thread so I can do this!

Mar 19th, 2011, 1:22:24 AM	#2
Zebstrika Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 623	Is it funny how legendary pokemon must be called by some random, otherwise insignificant orb or jewel and non-legendary pokemon may appear whenever they want? According to the pokedex, Glalie's core is made from rock, but the only rock move it ever learns is Rollout. It also isn't a rock type. Lapras learns SolarBeam in RBY but never again. Ampharos is unable to learn Tail Glow despite the pokedex saying its tail glows so brightly it can be seen from space or across an ocean. Notice the fridge logic as it has to light up space, which is a vacuum, to be seen from across the ocean. Last edited by Zebstrika; Mar 20th, 2011 at 12:32:40 AM.

Mar 19th, 2011, 4:25:58 AM	#10
Triggz Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,060 Stuck in a communication error on Gen V Wi-Fi	yeah it kinda does look like a durian __________________ WHITE FC:0218-1329-2986\|SS FC:0948-2773-7642\|PT FC:2451-5351-2643 Return of the Trigster: CURRENTLY CLOSED

Mar 19th, 2011, 6:55:09 AM	#13
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,245 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	until now, Scizor is the only Pokemon who does not have a BST change after evolution(it's simply taking 40 points of Scyther's Speed and placing them in Attack and Defense :/) Hitmonlee cannot learn Triple Kick despite the Pokedex stating that it can use every single kicking move. also Ferrothorn imo looks more like a crushed durian. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Mar 19th, 2011, 2:03:18 AM	#4
ToastTyrant13 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,163 Go against nature! It's part of nature.	Until B/W, Scizor's backsprite never feautured it's wings. Only the wing bases. Stunfisk is the only fish pokemon that is weak to water(yes, he is a flounder). Shelmet and Karrablast are the first pokemon to only evolve if traded for another specific pokemon. Zebstrika is the new "last pokemon" in alphabetical order. Pikachu has been the first non-5th Gen pokemon featured in B/W (Armaldo being the second. Charizard being the third. Surely there are more.). Munna was actually referenced in a past generation by a little girl who "Wants a pretty pink pokemon with a flower design", making it the only pokemon to ever have a pre-appearance before its own generation was released.

Mar 19th, 2011, 3:09:07 AM	#6
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,961	Depends on the size of the ocean, and some amount of light will be scattered across any distance, though it may become too hard to see after a point.

Mar 19th, 2011, 8:48:41 AM	#14
~~PlatinumDude~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 405 Hint: it's in Asia	Ferrothorn is a flattened durian with 3 spiky whips. With an I am not amused expression. Archeops' bases stat total matches its National Dex number (567) Zweilous evolves the latest out of all Pokemon (level 64), while Larvesta takes the longest to go through a single stage before evolving (it evolves at level 59). Hydreigon is the only pseudo-legendary whose Attack isn't higher than its Special Attack; it's the opposite. It's also the only pseudo-legendary with only 1 ability (the other 5 pseudo-legends gained an ability from the Dream World).

Mar 19th, 2011, 8:53:20 AM	#15
Irysa Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4	there were exactly 251 moves in gen II, same as the number of pokemon. partly connected to how the celebi egg glitch works in those games.

Mar 19th, 2011, 8:55:51 AM	#16
Cherub Agent I may be dead, but I'm still pretty. Which is more than I can say for you Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,229 intimidatingly cute Mentor	i thought ferrothorn was meant to be a land mine... __________________ (16:08) <@skylight> BUT I DID NOTHING WRONG (16:08) <@skylight> CHERUB (16:08) <@skylight> i will FUCK YOU (17:20) <@skylight> ill luvdisc your ass

Mar 19th, 2011, 9:17:27 AM	#17
SMZ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,509 Kingdom of the Two Seas	Zangoose while clearly having sharp claws, has never and still doesn't learn the move "Cut". Regirock's Pokedex states when a part of its body is chopped, it can attach to rocks to heal itself, yet it doesn't have the ability Regenerator or an ability that makes Rock-typed move heal it. Steelix does not learn Iron Defense despite having a high defense stat and being a steel type.

Mar 19th, 2011, 9:52:20 AM	#19
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,245 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	The Pokes that should have Shell Smash, but don't: Squirtle Metapod Kakuna Lapras Shuckle Pupitar Silcoon Cascoon Shelgon Turtwig Shieldon Swadloon Whirlipede proceeds to hide behind flame wall __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Mar 19th, 2011, 10:33:14 AM	#22
Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,962 Maryland	Technically speaking, Ferrothorn has a less powerful Gyro Ball than Ferroseed due to the Speed difference. This also makes Ferroseed's the most powerful Gyro Ball in the game. Only three Pokemon have ever changed their typing between generations, and all were Electric types. Between 108 and 116, there is a Pokemon with every base Speed. No other stat exhibits such a long straight. I just played a Pokemon trivia with some friends last night, and though there are more, these were the most interesting.

Mar 19th, 2011, 10:41:28 AM	#24
Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,962 Maryland	Hence the technically- Ferroseed can have a minimum 22 speed and max 218 attack, whereas Ferrothorn can have a minimum 40 speed and max 315 attack.