LC Fun! - Mystery Egg Trade & Battle Event

Odinwolf · Mar 20th, 2011, 2:25:37 PM

So I just ran this event on another forum that I participate in and it was a lot of fun. I know its not truly "competitive," but apart from being fun to do, it actually helps players come up with new and creative movesets and learn pogeys they might otherwise overlook in the Little Cup setting. Here's how it works:

Event Rules
1. Each participant breeds three different pokémon to get three eggs. They do not hatch the eggs. Make sure these pokémon are LC legal (we went with LC Ubers tiering).

2. When the event starts, players meet in some kind of chat room (AIM, Skype, IRC, etc) and trading partners are randomly assigned by the moderator. Each player will participate in a minimum of three trades, making sure to get rid of all their original three eggs. If you want to really randomize things, participate in 1-3 further trades, allowing trade partners to randomly pick from the three new eggs a player has collected.

3. Everyone then gets 30-45 min to hatch, train and prepare their mystery pokémon for battle. Only these three pogeys are allowed on your team.

4. You then do some kind of tournament with the hatched mystery egg pogeys. We did a single-elimination 3v3 singles battle, but next time we're planning to do a triple battle format.

5. Standard Little Cup rules apply, although you can adjust the format as you see fit. We played our first event with item clause on to encourage players to be more creative than slapping an Oran Berry on three pogeys and rolling with it. We did ban Magikarp, because we wanted players to actually be able to USE the pogeys they got.

Goals
The goal here is to have fun, be creative with our pokémon training, learn a little more about Little Cup and get a chance to use some possibly UU/NU LC pogeys or ones we might usually ignore. We encouraged our players to HAVE FUN with the breeding process and not worry too much about winning the tournament until they actually hatched their own pokemon. So we suggested they breed their favorites, something from their favorite type or something they think most people wouldn't usually use. We also STRONGLY encouraged nicknames on the hatched pokémon for the lulz.

Our crew had a lot of fun with it. Apart from the tournament, we also voted on some special awards such as "Best Breeder" and "Best Pokémon." I think next time we'll add a few more awards too, depending on how things go.

I'm curious if Smogon LC players would be interested in an event like this. I know it can be a hassle to play on WiFi rather than PO, but it really is a lot of fun, builds community and might just open up the doors for creative new movesets in LC. Thoughts?

**Elevator Music** · Mar 20th, 2011, 3:39:37 PM

I think this actually sounds like a lot of fun. I would be willing to do this if someone set up a date/time etc. The forums may not be the best place to plan and carry this out though -- perhaps someone should set up a social group and invite people? Idk, at the same time it would be nice to see some more activity in this subforum. I guess it's up to Vader and the other mods...

RisinDevil · Mar 20th, 2011, 5:13:42 PM

This does sound like fun and I would love to join! And I love the idea of the triple battle format for this :3

SkyNet · Mar 20th, 2011, 5:24:38 PM

Sounds like a p fun idea, I would be up for it.

Odinwolf · Mar 20th, 2011, 5:43:36 PM

Well if it looks like there's some interest, I'd be happy to host it.

Darkamber8828 · Mar 21st, 2011, 12:03:26 AM

Isn't there a small problem that if you want to win, you should be giving people eggs of the worst pokemon you can think of? I mean, ComMons like Pidgey and Pidove, since shit like Beldum and Magikarp is banned?

It's cool that anyone can participate, since there's no ivs or anything like that for non-hardcore wifiers. Like me.

Odinwolf · Mar 21st, 2011, 1:51:12 AM

I think you are missing the spirit of the event Darkamber. It's not just about giving people bad pokémon and hoping you win the tournament. It's about being creative with less-than-perfect or unusual tools at your disposal. Yes, some people will intentionally give out bad pogeys because they think its funny or because they want to win and others will give out really well-bred pogeys with nice egg moves, but how you handle the eggs you hatch will determine the outcome, not just what eggs you get.

So yeah, its kinda your goal to "win" in the end, but the wider-reaching goal is to have fun with fellow community members and get other people to use pogeys you think are cool/fun/interesting/underused. So if you just breed crummy pogeys and hope for a tournament win, you are kinda being a lousy member of the community and making the whole event less fun. Now, if you breed a usually bad pokémon but give it some interesting egg moves, you might inspire someone to do something creative and fun with it.

I guess if the event only starts for you when the tournament starts, then you just shouldn't participate. You've got to embrace the whole process and take pride in the pokémon you breed being successful as much (or more than) winning the tournament. Otherwise there is no point in joining.

Showsni · Mar 21st, 2011, 8:11:49 AM

That does sound fun! I assume fifth gen would be used, to allow the unlimited TM reuses? I haven't completed the game yet, so I don't have much good breeding stock trasnferred over...

Odinwolf · Mar 21st, 2011, 10:11:22 AM

Yeah, fifth gen is ideal since you don't have to use up your TMs anymore to train a pogey.

Odinwolf · Mar 28th, 2011, 1:21:14 PM

Ok... I got a lot of requests to host another mystery egg event so here's the announcement thread at Smashboards: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=300478

It's going to be Friday night (April 1) at 9PM EST. You can sign up here if you want, rather than make an account there. I'll combine the lists on Friday evening and we'll all meet in the same AIM chatroom. Get breeding and good luck.

Plusle · Mar 29th, 2011, 4:05:18 AM

I would take part but that is at 2 am for GMT

Jansports · Apr 26th, 2011, 6:34:24 PM

This is a cool idea, my eggs wont have the best IVs or Egg moves (unless I get alot of work done really fast) but they are LC contenders I feel are often overlooked. This is an exciting event that I'm going to hassle people to join

LATE! wow I feel retarded

Mar 20th, 2011, 2:25:37 PM	#1
Odinwolf Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 304 North Carolina	LC Fun! - Mystery Egg Trade & Battle Event So I just ran this event on another forum that I participate in and it was a lot of fun. I know its not truly "competitive," but apart from being fun to do, it actually helps players come up with new and creative movesets and learn pogeys they might otherwise overlook in the Little Cup setting. Here's how it works: Event Rules 1. Each participant breeds three different pokémon to get three eggs. They do not hatch the eggs. Make sure these pokémon are LC legal (we went with LC Ubers tiering). 2. When the event starts, players meet in some kind of chat room (AIM, Skype, IRC, etc) and trading partners are randomly assigned by the moderator. Each player will participate in a minimum of three trades, making sure to get rid of all their original three eggs. If you want to really randomize things, participate in 1-3 further trades, allowing trade partners to randomly pick from the three new eggs a player has collected. 3. Everyone then gets 30-45 min to hatch, train and prepare their mystery pokémon for battle. Only these three pogeys are allowed on your team. 4. You then do some kind of tournament with the hatched mystery egg pogeys. We did a single-elimination 3v3 singles battle, but next time we're planning to do a triple battle format. 5. Standard Little Cup rules apply, although you can adjust the format as you see fit. We played our first event with item clause on to encourage players to be more creative than slapping an Oran Berry on three pogeys and rolling with it. We did ban Magikarp, because we wanted players to actually be able to USE the pogeys they got. Goals The goal here is to have fun, be creative with our pokémon training, learn a little more about Little Cup and get a chance to use some possibly UU/NU LC pogeys or ones we might usually ignore. We encouraged our players to HAVE FUN with the breeding process and not worry too much about winning the tournament until they actually hatched their own pokemon. So we suggested they breed their favorites, something from their favorite type or something they think most people wouldn't usually use. We also STRONGLY encouraged nicknames on the hatched pokémon for the lulz. Our crew had a lot of fun with it. Apart from the tournament, we also voted on some special awards such as "Best Breeder" and "Best Pokémon." I think next time we'll add a few more awards too, depending on how things go. I'm curious if Smogon LC players would be interested in an event like this. I know it can be a hassle to play on WiFi rather than PO, but it really is a lot of fun, builds community and might just open up the doors for creative new movesets in LC. Thoughts? __________________ teacher of winter's harshness

Mar 20th, 2011, 3:39:37 PM	#2
Elevator Music there is actually no underscore in my name Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,444	I think this actually sounds like a lot of fun. I would be willing to do this if someone set up a date/time etc. The forums may not be the best place to plan and carry this out though -- perhaps someone should set up a social group and invite people? Idk, at the same time it would be nice to see some more activity in this subforum. I guess it's up to Vader and the other mods... __________________

Mar 20th, 2011, 5:43:36 PM	#5
Odinwolf Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 304 North Carolina	Well if it looks like there's some interest, I'd be happy to host it. __________________ teacher of winter's harshness

Mar 21st, 2011, 12:03:26 AM	#6
Darkamber8828 Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,695 i taste good but NO NO DON'T	Isn't there a small problem that if you want to win, you should be giving people eggs of the worst pokemon you can think of? I mean, ComMons like Pidgey and Pidove, since shit like Beldum and Magikarp is banned? It's cool that anyone can participate, since there's no ivs or anything like that for non-hardcore wifiers. Like me. __________________ Darkamber8828: Taunt is pokemon-cussing, right? DarkSlay: Nah. I thought it was more of the tounge sticking out kind of thing that pisses off people. DarkSlay: Not Pokemon actually cussing out one another. DarkSlay: "AYE FUCK YOU SKARMORY" (23:31:48) +RankingBot: Your rank in Standard LC is 1/415!

Mar 21st, 2011, 1:51:12 AM	#7
Odinwolf Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 304 North Carolina	I think you are missing the spirit of the event Darkamber. It's not just about giving people bad pokémon and hoping you win the tournament. It's about being creative with less-than-perfect or unusual tools at your disposal. Yes, some people will intentionally give out bad pogeys because they think its funny or because they want to win and others will give out really well-bred pogeys with nice egg moves, but how you handle the eggs you hatch will determine the outcome, not just what eggs you get. So yeah, its kinda your goal to "win" in the end, but the wider-reaching goal is to have fun with fellow community members and get other people to use pogeys you think are cool/fun/interesting/underused. So if you just breed crummy pogeys and hope for a tournament win, you are kinda being a lousy member of the community and making the whole event less fun. Now, if you breed a usually bad pokémon but give it some interesting egg moves, you might inspire someone to do something creative and fun with it. I guess if the event only starts for you when the tournament starts, then you just shouldn't participate. You've got to embrace the whole process and take pride in the pokémon you breed being successful as much (or more than) winning the tournament. Otherwise there is no point in joining. __________________ teacher of winter's harshness

Mar 20th, 2011, 5:13:42 PM	#3
RisinDevil Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 13 Maryland, USA	This does sound like fun and I would love to join! And I love the idea of the triple battle format for this :3

Mar 20th, 2011, 5:24:38 PM	#4
SkyNet MediEvil! Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 291 Gallowmere	Sounds like a p fun idea, I would be up for it.

Mar 21st, 2011, 8:11:49 AM	#8
Showsni Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 880	That does sound fun! I assume fifth gen would be used, to allow the unlimited TM reuses? I haven't completed the game yet, so I don't have much good breeding stock trasnferred over... __________________ Platinum FC: 4340-2125-1106 Heart Gold FC: 4769-9875-9410 CAP ASB Team

Mar 21st, 2011, 10:11:22 AM	#9
Odinwolf Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 304 North Carolina	Yeah, fifth gen is ideal since you don't have to use up your TMs anymore to train a pogey. __________________ teacher of winter's harshness

Mar 28th, 2011, 1:21:14 PM	#10
Odinwolf Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 304 North Carolina	Ok... I got a lot of requests to host another mystery egg event so here's the announcement thread at Smashboards: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=300478 It's going to be Friday night (April 1) at 9PM EST. You can sign up here if you want, rather than make an account there. I'll combine the lists on Friday evening and we'll all meet in the same AIM chatroom. Get breeding and good luck. __________________ teacher of winter's harshness

Mar 29th, 2011, 4:05:18 AM	#11
Plusle Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,040	I would take part but that is at 2 am for GMT __________________ VGC 2011 Seniors UK 1st \| VGC 2012 Seniors UK 4th \| Worlds 2011 18th \| Worlds 2012 19th \| Winter Battle and International Challenge January Seniors 1st

Apr 26th, 2011, 6:34:24 PM	#12
Jansports Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 13 CA	This is a cool idea, my eggs wont have the best IVs or Egg moves (unless I get alot of work done really fast) but they are LC contenders I feel are often overlooked. This is an exciting event that I'm going to hassle people to join LATE! wow I feel retarded Last edited by Jansports; Apr 26th, 2011 at 6:37:27 PM. Reason: I'm a moron?