CAP1 - Part 11b - (Non-Attacking Moves Poll)

reachzero · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:02:01 PM

This poll will determine which of the attacking moves marked as controversial will be allowed, and which will be disallowed. The controversial moves in question are Disable, Hypnosis and Switcheroo/Trick. This will be a Bold Vote, the format of which is slightly different from that of other votes so far. For each move, write in bold either Allow Move or Disallow Move. So for instance, a legal vote might look like

Quote:

Allow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

If a move is allowed, it may be used in movepool submissions. This does not guarantee that Tomohawk will actually be able to use the move in question. If a move is disallowed, it will not be permitted on any movepool submissions.

Here is our Pokemon so far:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Admiral_Korski

Concept: Momentum
General Description: This will be a Pokemon that can be utilized to gain or regain momentum for a player's team at any point in the match as its primary function.
Justification: Gen. 5 is a very powerful metagame. As such, most battles are won by the smarter strategist who can best maneuver around his/her opponent's onslaught to gain even a single turn's advantage, potentially clinching them the match. This process of gaining and regaining momentum is most often the defining element that makes a winner and a loser out of a single Pokemon battle. Any top player in this metagame should agree that momentum is the most crucial element in any given match; however, "momentum" itself is a rather vaguely defined term that is never really explored in concrete terms. Is it keeping opposing teams on the defensive? Forcing switches? Good prediction? Spamming U-turn? These have all been approaches to achieving momentum, but they are also player-side and largely synonymous with "strategy," as opposed to Pokemon-side and regarding a Pokemon's role on the team. Certainly there are threats like Ferrothorn/Gliscor (defensive) and Scizor/Latios/Voltlos, etc., etc. (offensive) that can achieve momentum as we know it, but there is no current niche for a "momentum Pokemon" because the concept has been purely delegated to players and not to Pokemon.
Questions to be Answered:
-How do we define momentum in terms of competitive Pokemon? What factors make current Pokemon able to achieve momentum and how can we incorporate that information into a successful CAP?
-How do different styles of play (Weather-based offense, stall, bulky offense, etc.) use momentum to achieve their goals and how can our CAP play to those strategies in an effort to take their momentum away?
-What type of traditional role (sweeper, tank, wall, support) would a Pokemon like this most resemble? Would it have to be able to fit more than one of these roles to fit in a variety of teams?
-How will the different playstyles be affected by the addition of a Pokemon that can regain offensive/defensive momentum at any given point? Will offensive teams play more conservatively? Will defensive teams play more recklessly? Will everything simply adapt to a new threat and move on normally?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Cartoons!

Name: Tomohawk

Typing: Flying/Fighting

Base Stats: 105 HP/60 Atk/90 Def/115 SpA/80 SpD/85 Spe

Abilities: Intimidate/Prankster

This poll will close in 24 hours. Choose wisely!

Rising_Dusk · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:02:55 PM

Disallow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Flarephoenix332 · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:03:00 PM

Disallow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Gothic Togekiss · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:03:57 PM

Allow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

**Korski** · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:04:57 PM

Disallow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

Zystral · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:05:19 PM

Disallow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

JeffreyLebowski · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:05:28 PM

Allow Switcheroo/ trick
Disallow Hypnosis

**capefeather** · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:06:28 PM

Disallow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

I don't see why we would hate Choiced attackers so much, or why we would love possibly Choiced Tomohawk so much. Hypnosis is lol. Poor Lovely Kiss :(

Onetwobanana · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:06:35 PM

Disallow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

~~mudkipmaster~~ · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:06:40 PM

Allow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

Aerodactyl Legend · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:09:46 PM

Allow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

Eldrake · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:29:40 PM

Allow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

***Jibaku**** · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:31:14 PM

Allow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

free all

Business Casual · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:32:16 PM

Disallow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

**PK Gaming** · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:33:14 PM

Disallow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

Tomahawk9 · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:41:37 PM

Disallow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Yeah... couldn't copy/paste anyone.

sb879 · Apr 4th, 2011, 1:54:39 PM

Disallow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Omicron · Apr 4th, 2011, 2:12:45 PM

Allow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo / Trick

GraffnTrix · Apr 4th, 2011, 2:25:59 PM

Disallow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Focus · Apr 4th, 2011, 2:34:43 PM

Allow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

KingEmpoleon · Apr 4th, 2011, 2:36:54 PM

Disallow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

Azule · Apr 4th, 2011, 2:48:41 PM

Allow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

Frosty · Apr 4th, 2011, 2:50:58 PM

Allow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

umbriel · Apr 4th, 2011, 3:02:31 PM

Disallow Disable
Disallow Hypnosis
Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Gerard · Apr 4th, 2011, 3:03:59 PM

Allow Disable
Allow Hypnosis
Allow Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:03:00 PM	#3
Flarephoenix332 Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 130	Disallow Disable Allow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick Last edited by Flarephoenix332; Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:06:10 PM. Reason: Hypnosis has like, no accuracy

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:03:57 PM	#4
Gothic Togekiss Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,484 PKMN Trainer Hijiri at your services	Allow Disable Allow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick __________________ Diamond: Rinneth (3222 2619 1334) Platinum: Remilia (5328 9611 0881) *White: Hijiri (3138 5947 0732) I can clone in B&W now. PM/VM if you need any. Everything I ever RNG'd is here What you buying stranger?*

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:04:57 PM	#5
Korski Distilled, 80 proof Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,004 Minneapolis	Disallow Disable Allow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick __________________ "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not." - John Lennon

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:05:19 PM	#6
Zystral Time for a true display of skill. Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,392 You belong in a museum!	Disallow Disable Allow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick __________________ GP Team - just ask. \| last.fm \| redditor \| steam \| #C&C, #mtg, #TCG oh look a userbar

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:05:28 PM	#7
JeffreyLebowski Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 344 Why is it that fools fall in love?	Allow Switcheroo/ trick Disallow Hypnosis __________________ Perhaps we are all fools... My Youtube. Challenge me! \| Joint Trade thread with Ashi and Fell Angel. Please respond in my thread. HG: 0818 5113 8089 Storage \| SS: 2579 5465 8994 Main Trading and Battling FC \| Black: 1677 9404 7032 Last edited by reachzero; Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:24:42 PM. Reason: spelling

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:02:55 PM	#2
Rising_Dusk Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,742	Disallow Disable Allow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:06:28 PM	#8
capefeather hey, even pirates need attorneys Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,606 especially internet pirates	Disallow Disable Allow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick I don't see why we would hate Choiced attackers so much, or why we would love possibly Choiced Tomohawk so much. Hypnosis is lol. Poor Lovely Kiss :( __________________ If we cannot take joy in things that are merely real, our lives will always be empty. <+joshe> im a registered sex offender for up to calc 3 <+Reflect_Suicune> i was thining of fucking jellicent for some reason <DetroitLolcat> I AM AROUSED BY BIMETALLIC CURRENCY!

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:06:35 PM	#9
Onetwobanana Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 93	Disallow Disable Allow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:06:40 PM	#10
~~mudkipmaster~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 751 credit to Fatecrashers for awesome avy	Allow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick Last edited by reachzero; Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:25:18 PM. Reason: order of Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:09:46 PM	#11
Aerodactyl Legend Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 967 Is inside an enemy AC130 above.	Allow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick Last edited by reachzero; Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:25:44 PM. Reason: order of Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:29:40 PM	#12
Eldrake Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15	Allow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:31:14 PM	#13
*Jibaku [02:06] <DixieNormous> Rodan x pookar: Just Do It Super Moderator** Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,909 Foursquare, a sprained ankle, bottlecap ninjas, and wallball	Allow Disable Allow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick free all __________________

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:32:16 PM	#14
Business Casual Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 40	Disallow Disable Allow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:33:14 PM	#15
PK Gaming Quiet Thunder God Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,525 Izanagi	Disallow Disable Allow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick __________________

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:41:37 PM	#16
Tomahawk9 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,439	Disallow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick Yeah... couldn't copy/paste anyone. __________________ C&C Work \| Smog Work

Apr 4th, 2011, 1:54:39 PM	#17
sb879 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 182 Southern California	Disallow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 2:12:45 PM	#18
Omicron Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,041 Seattle, WA	Allow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo / Trick __________________

Apr 4th, 2011, 2:25:59 PM	#19
GraffnTrix Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 27 California	Disallow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick __________________ "Why is that Cranidos faster than my Arceus?"~Me, in a random battle, uttering a sentence that no one should ever have to utter.

Apr 4th, 2011, 2:34:43 PM	#20
Focus Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 556 THORAX CORPORATION LLC,,.	Allow Disable Allow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick __________________ [FONT=Arial]Insects are divided up into 3 different parts. The HEAD, the THORAX, and the ABDOMEN. The THORAX is the head of the insect. And that's what THORAX CORPORATION LLC,,. is all about. Getting you a HEAD of the rest. [/FONT]

Apr 4th, 2011, 2:48:41 PM	#22
Azule Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 178 There.	Allow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick __________________ wtf is this.

Apr 4th, 2011, 2:50:58 PM	#23
Frosty Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,176	Allow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 3:02:31 PM	#24
umbriel Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 218	Disallow Disable Disallow Hypnosis Disallow Switcheroo/Trick

Apr 4th, 2011, 3:03:59 PM	#25
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,998 Mmm... Ice Cream!	Allow Disable Allow Hypnosis Allow Switcheroo/Trick