(Gen 2) PSA: Glitch Drum on PO

Jorgen · Dec 16th, 2011, 9:42:31 PM

Due to differences in Stadium and in-cart mechanics, Pokemon Online is going to cease implementing the Glitch Drum in its next update (though it will be fixing the current Ice-types being freeze-able problem, among other more minor fixes). In other words, Belly Drum at <50% will simply fail without the +2 boost after the update. Imo, this creates a significant strategic difference between "classic" GSC (NetBattle) and PO's Stadium-based GSC that warrants notification for the benefit of GSC tournament organizers and participants on this site.

**Pocket** · Dec 16th, 2011, 9:55:18 PM

Why are the peeps in PO so keen in adopting Stadium mechanics over the cart :/ Thanks for the update, Jorgen!

ThriceElite · Dec 16th, 2011, 10:30:47 PM

Honestly, at this rate, I recommend jumping off the Pokemon Online train if you're mainly a player of the older gens. It's fine for the newer gens I suppose, but I can't help but get the feeling that they don't really care about the older gens. It is for this reason that I only stick to Netbattle Supremacy. There, they've actually got the early gens down pretty good. The way things are going, I honestly feel that I will not pick up Pokemon Online for the older gens even if they adopt cart mechanics in the future. I mean, you can tell that they're not really committed to the old gen players. =/

**Pocket** · Dec 16th, 2011, 10:40:37 PM

Yea, I mean, they're pretty much throwing out a good 15-yrs worth of metagame history out the window (esp. RBY).

Jorgen · Dec 17th, 2011, 10:04:15 AM

After protest in that same thread, the PO staff seems open to undoing the reversal in code. Whether or not that will actually happen, we'll have to wait to see. Tentatively, I'd still suggest people stick with NBS for their GSC needs in things like SPL and the ongoing old-gen mashup tourney (if not because of the future possibility of losing the Glitch Drum, then for the bug in the current client where Ice-types can be frozen by Ice Beam in GSC).

As for RBY, I can kinda understand their reasoning there. They cite a (perhaps exaggerated, but I'm no dev so I really don't know) difficulty and time cost with adopting all the quirks of the carts, potential for bugginess, etc. With that, Stadium RBY now and cart RBY later is better than no RBY now and both RBYs later, imo.

coyotte508 · Dec 23rd, 2011, 8:02:01 PM

Since the obvious disapproval, it'll stay as it was until a version of PO supporting subgens comes out.

**Pocket** · Dec 23rd, 2011, 10:30:39 PM

Thanks, coyotte!

Dec 16th, 2011, 9:42:31 PM	#1
Jorgen Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 708	PSA: Glitch Drum on PO Due to differences in Stadium and in-cart mechanics, Pokemon Online is going to cease implementing the Glitch Drum in its next update (though it will be fixing the current Ice-types being freeze-able problem, among other more minor fixes). In other words, Belly Drum at <50% will simply fail without the +2 boost after the update. Imo, this creates a significant strategic difference between "classic" GSC (NetBattle) and PO's Stadium-based GSC that warrants notification for the benefit of GSC tournament organizers and participants on this site.

Dec 16th, 2011, 9:55:18 PM	#2
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,175 Bergenfield	Why are the peeps in PO so keen in adopting Stadium mechanics over the cart :/ Thanks for the update, Jorgen! __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Dec 16th, 2011, 10:40:37 PM	#4
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,175 Bergenfield	Yea, I mean, they're pretty much throwing out a good 15-yrs worth of metagame history out the window (esp. RBY). __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Dec 23rd, 2011, 10:30:39 PM	#7
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,175 Bergenfield	Thanks, coyotte! __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Dec 16th, 2011, 10:30:47 PM	#3
ThriceElite Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8	Honestly, at this rate, I recommend jumping off the Pokemon Online train if you're mainly a player of the older gens. It's fine for the newer gens I suppose, but I can't help but get the feeling that they don't really care about the older gens. It is for this reason that I only stick to Netbattle Supremacy. There, they've actually got the early gens down pretty good. The way things are going, I honestly feel that I will not pick up Pokemon Online for the older gens even if they adopt cart mechanics in the future. I mean, you can tell that they're not really committed to the old gen players. =/

Dec 17th, 2011, 10:04:15 AM	#5
Jorgen Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 708	After protest in that same thread, the PO staff seems open to undoing the reversal in code. Whether or not that will actually happen, we'll have to wait to see. Tentatively, I'd still suggest people stick with NBS for their GSC needs in things like SPL and the ongoing old-gen mashup tourney (if not because of the future possibility of losing the Glitch Drum, then for the bug in the current client where Ice-types can be frozen by Ice Beam in GSC). As for RBY, I can kinda understand their reasoning there. They cite a (perhaps exaggerated, but I'm no dev so I really don't know) difficulty and time cost with adopting all the quirks of the carts, potential for bugginess, etc. With that, Stadium RBY now and cart RBY later is better than no RBY now and both RBYs later, imo.

Dec 23rd, 2011, 8:02:01 PM	#6
coyotte508 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 157	Since the obvious disapproval, it'll stay as it was until a version of PO supporting subgens comes out.