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It looks like there's lots of interest in "The Win Formula" as an April Fool's joke. And since I seem to be ringleading this particular idea, I might as well do it right. This joke needs a lot of setup, otherwise it will probably fail horribly. This needs an organized approach. I'm going to treat this like a performance -- an "April Fools Play", if you will. And like any good performance, we need a script and we need a cast.
For those of you who hate tl;dr and don't really want to get too deep into this -- just skim the script and cast, you'll get the gist of it. Here's the general outline of the script: Introduction (~March 10th) X-Act makes a new thread in Policy Review. The OP follows this general outline:
Act 1 (March 10-15) Badgeholders comment on X-Act's proposal.
We need to make sure not to post too much in the early going. It needs to be realistic. If X-Act really posted something like this, many of you would probably ignore it or pass it off as stupid math mumbo-jumbo. So that's exactly what we are going to do here. Things will start heating up in Act 2. Act 2 (March 16-22) This is where we start talking about implementing some form of win formula on the Smogon University server.
Act 3 (March 23-31) Here's where the setup really gets some momentum.
Closing Act (April 1st)
If the battle ends 2-0 or 1-0, the system will randomly choose the winner - each player has a 50-50 chance. That's it. No complicated math, no logic whatsoever. The first time a player "loses" a match where they fainted the opponents team -- they will go ballistic. The "winner" will likely defend the "quality of their play", and accuse the other side of "getting too much hax". Others will investigate the details of the formula and call the formula designers idiots. Other people will accuse the system of being glitched. Hilarity ensues. Finale
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(roll credits) --------------------------- So that's the general script. What we need now is a cast. Since this isn't really a play, the roles are very vague. We're all "playing ourselves". But, I think it would help if we have an idea of the general roles we need fulfilled to pull this off. I envision the following roles listed below, but there may be more. Feel free to post ideas, if you think something is missing. Like everything else, I'm sure we'll make it up as we go along. In general, there are two classes of characters in the play: Heroes - People in favor of the formula, and working to get it implemented.Here are some of the roles that need to be played. With the exception of the White Knight, each role can (and should) have more than one actor. Some people will play multiple roles. "Action Hero" - They help out and work to implement change in the community. They move the story along by causing things to happen. Action heroes probably need to be members of forum staff.-------------------------------- So, that's the plan. I'm totally open to suggestions, and I'm sure we'll change this up as we go. I don't want to be a drill sergeant, since this is meant to be fun. For those of you interested in playing a part, post in this thread. The post immediately below this one will list the specific members of the cast, so we'll know who is who. Be aware that we need more heroes than villains, since the basic premise of this joke is that we are actually supporting this ridiculous idea. Also, when asking for a role, try to make a realistic assessment of your general public profile. If you are traditionally "logical" on Smogon, you can't play a "Melodrama Villain". If you are a newcomer to Smogon, you can't play a "Wise Old Veteran". If you haven't been active in Policy Review or the Smogon battling community, then don't think you can suddenly spring up and be a key actor here. Be realistic. Feel free to suggest people that you think would be good for certain roles. Lastly, please don't reveal this to anyone. Keeping a secret like this for an entire month will be quite difficult. But, if the secret gets out that it is a prank, then it will all be for naught. Hopefully, everyone reading this will keep this discussion STRICTLY in indiescoop. As directors like to say, "Quiet on set!" Last edited by DougJustDoug; Mar 7th, 2009 at 5:18:11 PM. |
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Here's the initial cast. I am sending a PM to everyone on this list to make sure they know the general expectations, roles, and timeline. Cast members need to check this thread regularly, since this will be "the green room" for our production. Do not randomly post in the discussion threads without checking here to see if it is the right time. If you have an idea and want immediate feedback, just PM me or get on #insidescoop and chat with me there. Let's have some fun! Mad Scientists X-Act DougJustDoug Caelum Obi RB Golbat Brain Heroes Tangerine - Melodrama Aldaron - Melodrama Twash - Drive By Jibaku - Drive By reachzero - Battling Tay - Battling Jimbo - Drive By maddog - Drive By darkie - Battling Ancien Regime - Melodrama Jumpman16 - Theorymon Blue Kirby - Theorymon Kevin Garrett - Battling Twist of Fate - Melodrama, Battling QibingZero - Battling MS - Battling Villains JabbaTheGriffin - Melodrama Lee - Melodrama Hipmonlee - Theorymon Articanus - Battling Villain Ping-Pong Poster Calciphoce RB Golbat Jumpman16 Wise Old Veteran Articuno64 Hazerider Doomsday Kumar Grumpy Old Veteran zerowing cookie AvatarST Extras Imran Colonel M august Misaki-Chi Elevator Music White Knight To be decided Last edited by DougJustDoug; Mar 14th, 2009 at 2:08:50 AM. |
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I'm more than willing to play any of these
"Melodrama Hero" & "Melodrama Villain" - They add drama by getting emotional with their arguments, and/or personal with their attacks. We can't have too many of these, or it will look contrived. "Theorymon Hero" & "Theorymon Villain" - Characters with little current battle experience that support/oppose the formula based on theory. They use hypothetical situations and not-always-current battle strategies to support their arguments. This is great btw :P |
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I think I'm pretty much perfect for melodrama villain considering how people view me on these forums.
Since I have publically feuded with both Jabba and Tang, I think either of these two should be my opponents. Jabba would be better though, lol. EDIT: This will also be great for all the users I hope should naturally take the opposite idea that I do, specifically Cynthia-, Umbarsc etc. I might be the hero just to induce these users to publically oppose me again.
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The Best. April Fools. Ever.
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<cockie> i could be an grumpy old veteran
<cockie> i could even wax nostalgic about the good old days of GSC i hate DP and shoddybattle as it is so it'd be perfect |
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This is guna be hilarious.
I wouldn't mind being either: "Drive-By Hero" & "Drive-By Villain" - Periodically make very short, unsubstantiated posts to support/oppose the formula. Considering a lot of my posts are pretty short and don't go into detail, especially in Stark.
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I think I obviously fit the role of mad scientist. However, at some point I'll unhappy with the "secret variable". I'm thinking I might receive a PM explaining everything to me, at which point I'll withdraw my objection.
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Kid just rages for a while
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i'll gladly argue against aldaron heh
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Here's the thing - if you want to take a part in this, make sure you took part in PR before, as in posted a few times. If someone like cookie or Hazerider starts posting and they've never posted before, then it's obvious "something is up"
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you have a point, and I'm not really willing to start posting in regular PR threads just to prevent suspicion so
[22:33:08] <+Hazerider> best I can do is talk/whine about it in #smogon |
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We may want to do a "Curtain Call" thread in Stark sometime shortly after the "big reveal". Have a full disclosure of the joke, and let everyone "take a bow". It will also serve to confirm to the community that it was a big joke, and that it is over.
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I am happy to play the "Extra" role. I know the sort of things that I generally blabber on about, so simply posting "my thoughts" will not be hard for me to do.
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[02:06] <DixieNormous> Rodan x pookar: Just Do It
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I think I best fit the description of "Battling Villain" and so would prefer this role, but am willing to play "Battling Hero" if we don't have enough. The biggest problem with playing the Hero role is my current sig; I've had it quoted back to me quite a few times, so most people know my attitude toward hax. I think it would be much more believable if I came out against the formula than if I supported it.
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I'll take battling hero if no one has any problem with that! I play on shoddy quite a bit and I have been looking forward to supporting the amazing win formula anyway; also I am the opposite of reach in that most people would probably expect me to come out against hax...
Reach can be the villain ; ]
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Actually, i think I could be a Mad Scientist since i can act pretty alloof and I am facinated with numbers
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Alder: N, even if we don't understand each other, that's not a reason to reject each other. There are two sides to an argument. Is there one point of view that has all the answers? Give it some thought.
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it's a revolution, i suppose
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I really really really would like a part in this (I've been thinking about April Fools since February!) My first choice would probably be Drive By hero/villain, but I'd be fine with anything :)
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I think I would rather enjoy playing the grumpy old vet, some people (Jackal comes to mind) often considered me a Lesm Jr during the RBY Smogon tours which extended to casual ADV play. There was a long period in which I was incredibly lucky and snatched quite a few wins from people with timely crits and fps. So I could seriously oppose this with little to no acting, and a good foil would be someone claiming this could fix RBY for Competitor while I totally oppose it due to my history of haxy victories in my favorite generation.
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I guess I cant not take part in this. It would be hard for me to be a convincing supporter of this idea, just based on the fact that I am generally a supporter of luck in pokemon..
I think I'd probably be best as a theorymon villain. Though I dunno if much theorymon will be involved in the process. Basicially I figure I'd offer a bit of help until it became clear it might become implemented, then I would become a vehemently opposed to the idea. Have a nice day.
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I think I'd fit quite well as a Battling Hero / Villain. I'm not sure what my public image on the forums is, but I do battle quite a lot and rant about my battling experiences, and so this is probably the role that would fit me best.
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hip stop avoiding you know you're gonna be the white knight
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also - i dont think there should be "specific" roles, just whether "you will agree with it" or "you will disagree with it" and then let it loose from there.
We'll probably need more people to agree with it though, i can see a huge shitstorm, lol |
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