DP Battle Tower Records - Page 4

SHUCKLE MAN · Oct 29th, 2007, 5:36:50 AM

I got 41 in Multi battles using

Heatran @ Choice Specs/Life Orb
Modest
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse
Iron Head

Salamence @ Choice Band/Life Orb
Hardy
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Fire Blast

I usually teamed up with Buck since I found her teams were most complimentary to mine. I narrowly lost to a team consisting of a Special Sweeping Tyranitar, a Milotic holding a Salac Berry, Screech Electivire and a Leech Seed, Double Team, Toxic, Giga Drain Tangrowth.

Jenkins · Oct 29th, 2007, 12:10:35 PM

i got 210 and then battery died so it said that i "quit" my battle twer thingy mabob and it was offline bt

Umbreon w/ Lefties - Docile
252Sp Def 252 Def 6 Spd
Toxic
Protect
moonlight
Dark Pulse

Metagross w/ Life Orb - Lonely (due to brill IV's)
252 Attack 129 hp 129 Spd
Meteor Mash
Explosion
Agility
EQ

Gengar - Spooky Plate - Modest
252 Sp Atk 252 Spd 6 Hp
Dark Pulse
Shadow Ball
Psychic
Calm Mind

I think my Gengar may have an illegal moveset but i got off GTS so...

Time Mage · Oct 29th, 2007, 1:09:59 PM

Yep, it is illegal, Gengar cannot learn CM.

In my second try, I lost to Palmer's second team in battle 49. Stupid Regigigas freezing Garchomp! Bleh, I misplayed anyway.

Tytus · Oct 29th, 2007, 2:06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat SHUCKLE MAN

I got 41 in Multi battles using

Heatran @ Choice Specs/Life Orb
Modest
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse
Iron Head

Salamence @ Choice Band/Life Orb
Hardy
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Fire Blast

I usually teamed up with Buck since I found her teams were most complimentary to mine. I narrowly lost to a team consisting of a Special Sweeping Tyranitar, a Milotic holding a Salac Berry, Screech Electivire and a Leech Seed, Double Team, Toxic, Giga Drain Tangrowth.

Buck is a dude 0_0

SHUCKLE MAN · Oct 29th, 2007, 5:20:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Tytus

Buck is a dude 0_0

Ah. I always thought it was a strange name for a girl. lol.

I also got Tabitha's, Bugsy's and Motry's genders mixed up in the past. They need to be a tad more clear about things like this, or I need to be more observant...

Peterko · Oct 31st, 2007, 6:13:44 AM

updated

I won´t add the record of user Jenkins for an obvious reason

Tinnacious · Oct 31st, 2007, 11:18:42 AM

A request.

Does anyone have any good tips for building an effective Battle Tower team?

**Expert Evan** · Nov 11th, 2007, 8:10:32 PM

Diamond team which was using the similar pokemon for the Pearl team that got to 105 now has a record of 84 wins as it died on the 85th battle facing regice, abomasnow & mamoswine. Looks like I'll need to get something to counter ice types better on my party.

Current party though garchomp not same as one used in pearl party:

Modest natural-cure Starmie: 20 / 29 / 17 / 31 / 27 / 31
252 sp.atk/speed, 6 HP
holding expert belt
- surf
- ice beam
- psychic
- thunderbolt

Adamant female Tyranitar: 31 / 31 / 16 / 10 / 21 / 31
86 hp, 252 attack, 172 speed
holding lum berry
- dragon dance
- taunt
- crunch
- earthquake

Adamant male Garchomp: 24 / 31 / 21 / 28 / 24 / 31
32 hp, 252 attack, 224 speed
holding choice scarf
- outrage
- dragon claw (should I replace with fire fang or aerial ace?)
- earthquake
- crunch

Justice · Nov 12th, 2007, 11:45:56 AM

Jap version 191 with Ninjask/Metagross/Marowak, it ended due to stone edge missed twice

Ninjask @ Leftovers
Jolly Nature (252HP/96Spd/160Atk)
-X Scissor
-Baton Pass
-Substitute
-Sword Dance

Metagross @ Life Orb
Adamant Nature (252Atk/252Spd/4HP)
-Ice Punch
-Thunder Punch
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake

Marowak @ Thich Club
Jolly Nature (252Atk/252Spd/4HP)
-Earthquake
-Stone - Edge
-Sword Dance
-Double - Edge

US version currently on 104 with Espeon/Machamp/Weavile

Espeon @ Left Overs
Implish Nature (252HP/252Sdef/4Def)
-Curse
-Trick Room
-Morning Sun
-Baton Pass

Machamp @ Life Orbs
Adamant Nature (252Atk/252Hp/4Sdef)
-Stone - Edge
-Earthquake
-Dynamic Punch
-Pay Back

Weavile @ Life Orbs
Adamant (252Atk/252HP/4Sdef)
-Ice Shard
-Night Slash
-Substitute
-Focus Punch

Double battle on 51 with Garchomp/Gengar/Metagross/Steelix
Boom/Eq team =D

***Jumpman16***** · Nov 12th, 2007, 6:16:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Tinnacious

A request.

Does anyone have any good tips for building an effective Battle Tower team?

Yeah, read this entire thread, there's a lot of good advice in here. General rules of thumb though are to not have any two pokemon weak to a particular type, and that speed really, really goes a long way in the Battle Tower, even more so than in Advance, it seems.

paramylodon · Nov 12th, 2007, 9:33:01 PM

I made a somewhat slow team that got me to rank 9 in the online battle tower; the team is Yanmega, Snorlax, and Metagross.
However, I believe the Yanmega is hacked, as I just realised it knows "protect" over "detect"? Can Yanmegas learn both, or is whoever gave it "protect" an idiot?

earthpeople · Nov 12th, 2007, 9:34:50 PM

It can learn protect from TM.

**Expert Evan** · Nov 13th, 2007, 8:07:26 AM

Question for Jumpman16: is there any significant difference between having a DDTar with adamant and 172 EVs in speed vs. jolly with max speed? I just recently re-bred for a DDTar as jolly and max attack/speed and am thinking of having one version with taunt to deal with the likes of ludicolo & dusknoir and other double teamers and another with stone edge to deal with those pesky ice types in the later round. I just want to get my diamond version up to 100 wins just like in my pearl version. It bewilders me that I was so lucky doing it in pearl and am struggling with diamond.

EvilMario · Nov 13th, 2007, 11:34:00 AM

Multibattle Streak of 41

I used..

Tauros@ Choice Band
EVs: 252 Att, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Nature: Adamant
~Rock Slide
~Earthquake
~Zen Headbutt
~Return

And..

Dragonite@Life Orb
EVs 252 Att 252 Spd 6 HP
Nature: Adamant
~Outrage
~Dragon Dance
~Fire Punch
~Earthquake

I teamed with a mix of characters.. Cheryl, Riley, and Marley. Last battle was against Focus Sash Jolteon, Ferligator, Special Slaking, and Drapion was the final Pokemon. It survived a Choice Band Return and OHKOed my Tauros (no intimidate in) with a critical hit Night Slash. Alas.

I found the biggest problem leading with Dragonite is there are so many surprise Ice Beam users, and for those that don't have hidden Ice Beams, Ice Fang is usually around the corner. Teaming with Marley's Starmie helped out a bit, as it'd frequently setup Light Screen for me. All in all, I find multibattles very fun. :)

kingofgames · Nov 13th, 2007, 4:15:21 PM

For battle tower MULTI Record, I have 45 :)

I dont have a thread, but the pokemon I used werE:

Garchomp: Naieve

Crunch
Earthquake
Fire Fang
Dragon Claw

Electvire: Adanment

T-Punch
I-Punch
Cross Chop
Earthquake

**Expert Evan** · Nov 14th, 2007, 8:32:50 AM

As my streak is now back to 28 this time using a jolly tyranitar with max attack/speed, I notice it still cannot outspeed the likes of a double teaming skuntank nor Palmer's milotic before the salac berry so I'm still wondering about the benefit of more speed on tyranitar in place of more attack/HP. I'm still re-breeding for a better adamant gible that the one I'm using as both parents have max IVs in hp/attack/speed but the offsprings having been nothing but disappointing so far.

Lee · Nov 14th, 2007, 8:37:50 AM

Quote:

nor Palmer's milotic before the salac berry

Quick note...Palmer's Milotic outsped my Blaziken before the SalacBerry, even though my Blaziken runs 280 speed (I found out the hard way...oh, hello Hydro Pump). This leads me to believe that Milotic is Timid with max speed, so no amount of speed will allow Tyranitar to outspeed it.

***DougJustDoug***** · Nov 14th, 2007, 6:35:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Expert Evan

...so I'm still wondering about the benefit of more speed on tyranitar in place of more attack/HP.

Max speed Jolly TTar gets the jump on all the base 70 speed pokes without a +speed nature. That's a pretty good list of pokes at 70 speed. Notable are Metagross, Breloom, Ludicolo, Solrock, Skarmory, Poliwrath, and Lanturn (at 67). All of those can present certain problems for Tyranitar. Some of those own TTar completely (Breloom says hi). Others TTar can hurt, if he can outspeed them. If they are damaged, TTar can finish them off. Many times, I finished off Ludicolo with Tyranitar. If I would have eaten a water or grass move it might KO the big lizard. That max Jolly speed was the difference in winning the match. Same thing with a finishing EQ from TTar on Metagross. Without that speed, I eat a big Meteor Mash and die.

The max Jolly speed is arguably more important when you start Dragon Dancing. It's not uncommon for Tar to sneak in a DD here and there, even when faced against tough SE competition. With just one DD, a max Jolly Tyranitar outspeeds a whole lot of stuff -- Starmie, Azelf, Ambipom, Lati@s, Tauros, and Gengar come to mind. He also outspeeds attack-natured Aerodactyl, Jolteon, and Crobat. Some of these pokemon are easily handled by Tyranitar without the boost. But, in the BT, hax, crits, and status are very common. It's nice to OHKO without risking anything.

You can build your team however you want. But, I suggest you go max speed Jolly with Tyranitar.

***Jumpman16***** · Nov 14th, 2007, 8:01:56 PM

pretty much what i would have said, doug is my gimmick account

**Expert Evan** · Nov 15th, 2007, 12:07:35 AM

So far jolly tyranitar has been great as it still survived steelix' iron tail as I currently using one with taunt to prevent shuckle from double teaming and may use another version with stone edge for later rounds with the pesky ice types. I'm still working on getting a better adamant garchomp so it can survive some ice shards at least. My streak is now back to 42 as that was a round I often had trouble with many times before.

***DougJustDoug***** · Nov 15th, 2007, 1:11:34 PM

Re: Jolly Tyranitar

When playing the Battle Tower with Tyranitar, I love the frequent Eevee-theme teams. Inevitably, Jolteon, Espeon, or Glaceon show their face -- which is a green light to bring in Tar, Dragon Dance several times, and pimp-slap the rest of the team.

However, one time, I was reminded of why Jolly Tyranitar is the better nature for the BT. An Eevee team showed up, Glaceon led, and I switched in Tyranitar and danced. Glaceon Yawned. I decided to KO with Rock Slide instead of dancing again -- knowing my Lum would heal the sleep, and not wanting to get yawned again. Next comes Jolteon. I got greedy and danced again, figuring I'd make Jolteon my bitch no matter what, and with a few more DD's, I could wipe up any troublesome Leafeon, Vaporeon or Umbreon waiting in the wings. Jolteon T-waved me and my lum was gone, so my speed advantage was irrelevant. I was haxed with full paralysis for the next several turns, while Jolteon proceeded to shove super-effective Iron Tails up my ass. Eventually, I was KO'd and humiliated. Fortunately, Scarfchomp came in, rofl'd at Jolteon, and mopped up the rest of Team Eevee.

Actually I learned three lessons in that fight:
1) Don't fool around with paralysis in the Battle Tower
2) Iron Tail Jolteon can piss on Tyranitar
3) Life can be a whole lot easier if a one-DD Tyranitar outspeeds base 130 speed opponents

kingofgames · Nov 15th, 2007, 7:02:24 PM

Well. I found this on GameFAQ.. and this is pretty accurate:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925602/49097 (credit goes to him) and
http://mewn.psupedia.info/Pokemon/BTMovesets.htm
The first time you fight Palmer, he uses the following Pokemon:

Milotic @ Salac Berry
Timid; EV Trained in Defence and Speed
Marvel Scale
~ Hypnosis
~ Hydro Pump
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Recover

Rhyperior @ Expert Belt
Quiet; EV trained in Attack and Special Attack
~ Flamethrower
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ Rock Wrecker

Dragonite @ Wide Lens
Adamant; EV trained in Attack and HP
~ Stone Edge
~ Dragon Rush
~ Aqua Tail
~ Iron Tail

extra. · Nov 16th, 2007, 1:05:04 AM

oh forgot to mention

got to 43 on multi battle tower with

Starmie @ Life Orb
Trait:Natural Cure
EVs:252 SAtk/252 Spd/4 HP
Timid Nature
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Recover

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
Jolly Nature
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast
-Crunch

paramylodon · Nov 16th, 2007, 1:54:36 AM

Apparently rank 10 is the highest rank achievable; I wasn't promoted after winning 7 times at this rank.

Little Green Yoda · Nov 17th, 2007, 2:52:55 AM

I just started playing the Wi-Fi BT and I'm already annoyed at all the Focus Sashers. Do you people just pick a random room when you play? There really isn't any major differences between rooms 1-50, right?

Oct 29th, 2007, 5:36:50 AM	#76
SHUCKLE MAN Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,084	I got 41 in Multi battles using Heatran @ Choice Specs/Life Orb Modest Fire Blast Earth Power Dragon Pulse Iron Head Salamence @ Choice Band/Life Orb Hardy Dragon Claw Earthquake Rock Slide Fire Blast I usually teamed up with Buck since I found her teams were most complimentary to mine. I narrowly lost to a team consisting of a Special Sweeping Tyranitar, a Milotic holding a Salac Berry, Screech Electivire and a Leech Seed, Double Team, Toxic, Giga Drain Tangrowth. __________________ Shedinja fainted!

Oct 29th, 2007, 12:10:35 PM	#77
Jenkins Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7 Newmoon Island	i got 210 and then battery died so it said that i "quit" my battle twer thingy mabob and it was offline bt Umbreon w/ Lefties - Docile 252Sp Def 252 Def 6 Spd Toxic Protect moonlight Dark Pulse Metagross w/ Life Orb - Lonely (due to brill IV's) 252 Attack 129 hp 129 Spd Meteor Mash Explosion Agility EQ Gengar - Spooky Plate - Modest 252 Sp Atk 252 Spd 6 Hp Dark Pulse Shadow Ball Psychic Calm Mind I think my Gengar may have an illegal moveset but i got off GTS so... __________________ Rate My Team http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...597#post698597 The One & Only.. wont let me upload my TC to my sig usin a [IMG] code... any1 able 2 tell me what im doin wrong? pm me... Last edited by Jenkins; Oct 29th, 2007 at 12:16:29 PM. Reason: needed to add sumit

Oct 29th, 2007, 1:09:59 PM	#78
Time Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 935 Granada, Spain	Yep, it is illegal, Gengar cannot learn CM. In my second try, I lost to Palmer's second team in battle 49. Stupid Regigigas freezing Garchomp! Bleh, I misplayed anyway. __________________ D/P FC: 2749 8421 3675

Oct 31st, 2007, 6:13:44 AM	#81
Peterko Never give up! Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,070	updated I won´t add the record of user Jenkins for an obvious reason __________________ Black & White Battle Subway Records Platinum/HG/SS Battle Frontier and DP Battle Tower Records DP Battle Tower Records (Smogon's Greatest Hits) Emerald Battle Frontier Max Stats Pokemon Database Battle Subway Super Singles record: 623 - Cloyster, Garchomp, Suicune

Oct 31st, 2007, 11:18:42 AM	#82
Tinnacious Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 744	A request. Does anyone have any good tips for building an effective Battle Tower team? __________________ Not trading at the moment

Nov 11th, 2007, 8:10:32 PM	#83
Expert Evan every battle has a smell! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,791 Southwestern Connecticut	Diamond team which was using the similar pokemon for the Pearl team that got to 105 now has a record of 84 wins as it died on the 85th battle facing regice, abomasnow & mamoswine. Looks like I'll need to get something to counter ice types better on my party. Current party though garchomp not same as one used in pearl party: Modest natural-cure Starmie: 20 / 29 / 17 / 31 / 27 / 31 252 sp.atk/speed, 6 HP holding expert belt - surf - ice beam - psychic - thunderbolt Adamant female Tyranitar: 31 / 31 / 16 / 10 / 21 / 31 86 hp, 252 attack, 172 speed holding lum berry - dragon dance - taunt - crunch - earthquake Adamant male Garchomp: 24 / 31 / 21 / 28 / 24 / 31 32 hp, 252 attack, 224 speed holding choice scarf - outrage - dragon claw (should I replace with fire fang or aerial ace?) - earthquake - crunch __________________ EE's Official trade thread: G.O.A.T. EE - Mark 2 4th gen trade = 4383-6929-7278 \| 5th gen trade = 2493-9641-2031 \| 5th gen battle = 4126-7225-2545 Also be sure to join #smogonwifi on IRC for faster communication If you want to be cool, read and obey the rules especially the ones for WiFi. Last edited by Expert Evan; Nov 11th, 2007 at 9:40:01 PM.

Nov 12th, 2007, 11:45:56 AM	#84
Justice Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 160	Jap version 191 with Ninjask/Metagross/Marowak, it ended due to stone edge missed twice Ninjask @ Leftovers Jolly Nature (252HP/96Spd/160Atk) -X Scissor -Baton Pass -Substitute -Sword Dance Metagross @ Life Orb Adamant Nature (252Atk/252Spd/4HP) -Ice Punch -Thunder Punch -Meteor Mash -Earthquake Marowak @ Thich Club Jolly Nature (252Atk/252Spd/4HP) -Earthquake -Stone - Edge -Sword Dance -Double - Edge US version currently on 104 with Espeon/Machamp/Weavile Espeon @ Left Overs Implish Nature (252HP/252Sdef/4Def) -Curse -Trick Room -Morning Sun -Baton Pass Machamp @ Life Orbs Adamant Nature (252Atk/252Hp/4Sdef) -Stone - Edge -Earthquake -Dynamic Punch -Pay Back Weavile @ Life Orbs Adamant (252Atk/252HP/4Sdef) -Ice Shard -Night Slash -Substitute -Focus Punch Double battle on 51 with Garchomp/Gengar/Metagross/Steelix Boom/Eq team =D __________________ Signatures are useless, therefore I dont have one. Last edited by Justice; Nov 12th, 2007 at 11:55:30 AM.

Nov 12th, 2007, 9:33:01 PM	#86
paramylodon Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 238	I made a somewhat slow team that got me to rank 9 in the online battle tower; the team is Yanmega, Snorlax, and Metagross. However, I believe the Yanmega is hacked, as I just realised it knows "protect" over "detect"? Can Yanmegas learn both, or is whoever gave it "protect" an idiot?

Nov 12th, 2007, 9:34:50 PM	#87
earthpeople Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,092	It can learn protect from TM. __________________

Nov 13th, 2007, 8:07:26 AM	#88
Expert Evan every battle has a smell! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,791 Southwestern Connecticut	Question for Jumpman16: is there any significant difference between having a DDTar with adamant and 172 EVs in speed vs. jolly with max speed? I just recently re-bred for a DDTar as jolly and max attack/speed and am thinking of having one version with taunt to deal with the likes of ludicolo & dusknoir and other double teamers and another with stone edge to deal with those pesky ice types in the later round. I just want to get my diamond version up to 100 wins just like in my pearl version. It bewilders me that I was so lucky doing it in pearl and am struggling with diamond. __________________ EE's Official trade thread: G.O.A.T. EE - Mark 2 4th gen trade = 4383-6929-7278 \| 5th gen trade = 2493-9641-2031 \| 5th gen battle = 4126-7225-2545 Also be sure to join #smogonwifi on IRC for faster communication If you want to be cool, read and obey the rules especially the ones for WiFi. Last edited by Expert Evan; Nov 13th, 2007 at 8:12:13 AM.

Nov 13th, 2007, 11:34:00 AM	#89
EvilMario Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 573 Toronto, ON	Multibattle Streak of 41 I used.. Tauros@ Choice Band EVs: 252 Att, 252 Spd, 6 HP Nature: Adamant ~Rock Slide ~Earthquake ~Zen Headbutt ~Return And.. Dragonite@Life Orb EVs 252 Att 252 Spd 6 HP Nature: Adamant ~Outrage ~Dragon Dance ~Fire Punch ~Earthquake I teamed with a mix of characters.. Cheryl, Riley, and Marley. Last battle was against Focus Sash Jolteon, Ferligator, Special Slaking, and Drapion was the final Pokemon. It survived a Choice Band Return and OHKOed my Tauros (no intimidate in) with a critical hit Night Slash. Alas. I found the biggest problem leading with Dragonite is there are so many surprise Ice Beam users, and for those that don't have hidden Ice Beams, Ice Fang is usually around the corner. Teaming with Marley's Starmie helped out a bit, as it'd frequently setup Light Screen for me. All in all, I find multibattles very fun. :) __________________ EM Last edited by EvilMario; Nov 13th, 2007 at 11:36:49 AM.

Nov 13th, 2007, 4:15:21 PM	#90
kingofgames Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,771	For battle tower MULTI Record, I have 45 :) I dont have a thread, but the pokemon I used werE: Garchomp: Naieve Crunch Earthquake Fire Fang Dragon Claw Electvire: Adanment T-Punch I-Punch Cross Chop Earthquake __________________ Nick Name: JAM Friend Code: 0988 8343 4779 KoG's Starter Trading Thread Pending Thread:(Check if you are waiting on a trade from me) http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33839

Nov 14th, 2007, 8:32:50 AM	#91
Expert Evan every battle has a smell! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,791 Southwestern Connecticut	As my streak is now back to 28 this time using a jolly tyranitar with max attack/speed, I notice it still cannot outspeed the likes of a double teaming skuntank nor Palmer's milotic before the salac berry so I'm still wondering about the benefit of more speed on tyranitar in place of more attack/HP. I'm still re-breeding for a better adamant gible that the one I'm using as both parents have max IVs in hp/attack/speed but the offsprings having been nothing but disappointing so far. __________________ EE's Official trade thread: G.O.A.T. EE - Mark 2 4th gen trade = 4383-6929-7278 \| 5th gen trade = 2493-9641-2031 \| 5th gen battle = 4126-7225-2545 Also be sure to join #smogonwifi on IRC for faster communication If you want to be cool, read and obey the rules especially the ones for WiFi.

Nov 14th, 2007, 8:01:56 PM	#94
*Jumpman16* np: Michael Jackson - 'Mon in the Mirror (Dream World mix off the "Black or White" album) Administrator** Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,737 Fuqua: Where business cases are read and devils are blue	pretty much what i would have said, doug is my gimmick account __________________ You haven't trolled till you've trolled in real life. Read A Mullet's Tale for reference if you haven't yet!

Nov 15th, 2007, 12:07:35 AM	#95
Expert Evan every battle has a smell! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,791 Southwestern Connecticut	So far jolly tyranitar has been great as it still survived steelix' iron tail as I currently using one with taunt to prevent shuckle from double teaming and may use another version with stone edge for later rounds with the pesky ice types. I'm still working on getting a better adamant garchomp so it can survive some ice shards at least. My streak is now back to 42 as that was a round I often had trouble with many times before. __________________ EE's Official trade thread: G.O.A.T. EE - Mark 2 4th gen trade = 4383-6929-7278 \| 5th gen trade = 2493-9641-2031 \| 5th gen battle = 4126-7225-2545 Also be sure to join #smogonwifi on IRC for faster communication If you want to be cool, read and obey the rules especially the ones for WiFi.

Nov 15th, 2007, 1:11:34 PM	#96
*DougJustDoug* Knows the great enthusiasms Administrator** Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,901 Houston, TX	Re: Jolly Tyranitar When playing the Battle Tower with Tyranitar, I love the frequent Eevee-theme teams. Inevitably, Jolteon, Espeon, or Glaceon show their face -- which is a green light to bring in Tar, Dragon Dance several times, and pimp-slap the rest of the team. However, one time, I was reminded of why Jolly Tyranitar is the better nature for the BT. An Eevee team showed up, Glaceon led, and I switched in Tyranitar and danced. Glaceon Yawned. I decided to KO with Rock Slide instead of dancing again -- knowing my Lum would heal the sleep, and not wanting to get yawned again. Next comes Jolteon. I got greedy and danced again, figuring I'd make Jolteon my bitch no matter what, and with a few more DD's, I could wipe up any troublesome Leafeon, Vaporeon or Umbreon waiting in the wings. Jolteon T-waved me and my lum was gone, so my speed advantage was irrelevant. I was haxed with full paralysis for the next several turns, while Jolteon proceeded to shove super-effective Iron Tails up my ass. Eventually, I was KO'd and humiliated. Fortunately, Scarfchomp came in, rofl'd at Jolteon, and mopped up the rest of Team Eevee. Actually I learned three lessons in that fight: 1) Don't fool around with paralysis in the Battle Tower 2) Iron Tail Jolteon can piss on Tyranitar 3) Life can be a whole lot easier if a one-DD Tyranitar outspeeds base 130 speed opponents

Nov 15th, 2007, 7:02:24 PM	#97
kingofgames Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,771	Well. I found this on GameFAQ.. and this is pretty accurate: http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925602/49097 (credit goes to him) and http://mewn.psupedia.info/Pokemon/BTMovesets.htm The first time you fight Palmer, he uses the following Pokemon: Milotic @ Salac Berry Timid; EV Trained in Defence and Speed Marvel Scale ~ Hypnosis ~ Hydro Pump ~ Dragon Pulse ~ Recover Rhyperior @ Expert Belt Quiet; EV trained in Attack and Special Attack ~ Flamethrower ~ Ice Beam ~ Thunderbolt ~ Rock Wrecker Dragonite @ Wide Lens Adamant; EV trained in Attack and HP ~ Stone Edge ~ Dragon Rush ~ Aqua Tail ~ Iron Tail __________________ Nick Name: JAM Friend Code: 0988 8343 4779 KoG's Starter Trading Thread Pending Thread:(Check if you are waiting on a trade from me) http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33839 Last edited by kingofgames; Nov 15th, 2007 at 7:05:12 PM.

Nov 16th, 2007, 1:05:04 AM	#98
extra. Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 585 australia	oh forgot to mention got to 43 on multi battle tower with Starmie @ Life Orb Trait:Natural Cure EVs:252 SAtk/252 Spd/4 HP Timid Nature -Surf -Thunderbolt -Ice Beam -Recover Garchomp @ Choice Scarf EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP Jolly Nature -Outrage -Earthquake -Fire Blast -Crunch

Nov 16th, 2007, 1:54:36 AM	#99
paramylodon Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 238	Apparently rank 10 is the highest rank achievable; I wasn't promoted after winning 7 times at this rank.

Nov 17th, 2007, 2:52:55 AM	#100
Little Green Yoda Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,439 Dagobah m i rite?	I just started playing the Wi-Fi BT and I'm already annoyed at all the Focus Sashers. Do you people just pick a random room when you play? There really isn't any major differences between rooms 1-50, right?