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People, I was thinking off something.
I was thinking about an 'two-in-one' guide for the BT. I mean taking this: http://133780x.argentosonline.com/BattleTowerStats.html guide, perhaps checking some of the stuff, and then adding a new column with the header, 'Users'. We could then take this guide by Peterko: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=431 And insert all the info in. It could be much easier than having to print off 30 pages for those who can't be at the computer all day (something I had to do earlier). What d'ya think? It could also enable us to revise some of the stats and shit.
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lol about 2 hrs ago I started to collect (fuse) stuff for bt.smogon.com despite not knowing if the project will be done or not...
Ace Trainer Abbey – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses flawless IV Pokémon Ace Trainer Lionel – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses flawless IV Pokémon Gentleman Kennedy – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses flawless IV Pokémon Aerodactyl - Choice Band – Stone Edge, Iron Head, Earthquake, Dragon Claw – 155 – (172/157/141) – (93/85/76) – (88/80/72) – (104/95/85) – (200/182/163) Aggron – Quick Claw – Stone Edge, Iron Head, Earthquake, Shadow Claw – 177 – (178/162/145) – 200 – 80 – 80 – 63 Ampharos – Zoom Lens – Thunder, Focus Blast, Charge Beam, Power Gem – 197 – 95 – 95 – 183 – 110 – 67 Arcanine – Focus Band – Flare Blitz, Crunch, Thunder Fang, Extremespeed – 165 – 162 – 100 – 108 – 100 – 161 Blissey – Sitrus Berry – Counter, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Double Team – 362 – 27 – 68 – 95 – 155 – 75 Bronzong – Chesto Berry – Psychic, Shadowball, Calm Mind, Rest – 174 – 98 – 168 – 108 – 136 – 53 Claydol – Macho Brace – Gyro Ball, Earthquake, Explosion, Trick Room – 167 – 134 – 125 – 90 – 140 – 85 Crobat – Payapa Berry – Brave Bird, X-Scissor, Cross Poison, Confuse Ray – 160 – 156 – 100 – 81 – 100 – 182 Donphan Dragonite Drapion Dusknoir Electivire Exeggutor Flygon Flareon Espeon Gallade Garchomp Gardevoir Gengar Glaceon Gliscor Gyarados Heracross Hippowdon Honchkrow Houndoom Jolteon Kingdra Lapras Leafeon Lickilicky Lucario Luxray Machamp Magmortar Magnezone Mamoswine Metagross Milotic Ninetales Pinsir Politoed Porygon2 Porygon-Z Probopass Rampardos Rhyperior Roserade Salamence Scizor Shuckle Slaking Snorlax Starmie Steelix Tangrowth Tentacruel Togekiss Tyranitar Umbreon Ursaring Vaporeon Wailord Walrein Weavile Yanmega Camper Justyn – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Camper Leland – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Picnicker Kyra – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Picnicker Serena – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon PKMN Breeder Emilee – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon PKMN Breeder Tiffani – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon PKMN Breeder Blair – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon PKMN Breeder Harvey – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Aerodactyl -> Yanmega Cowgirl Margot – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Cowgirl Sophie – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Pokéfan Carley – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Pokéfan Cecil – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Pokéfan Selina – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Pokéfan Ted – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Rancher Alton – This trainer specializes in one Pokémon set and uses 21 IV Pokémon Rancher 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Oct 26th, 2008, 4:14:25 PM
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I've been reading through this thread recently and I've been inspired by Jumpman to try out the Battle Tower (and I realise this may be a bit late but congrats on 350 Jumpman that's insane). I decided to try out a Trick/Choice Scarf based team since they looked really cool and it's obvious they perform well.
I also, however, decided to go down a bit of a different road with the team. By that I mean instead of Tricking the Choice Scarf to my opponent's lead and then using moves like Flash and Sweet Kiss, I picked Pokemon that cover weaknesses and, when combined, resist almost every type. Here's the team: Mismagius@Choice Scarf Trait: Levitate Nature: Jolly (+Spd,-SpA) EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd / 6 SpD - Trick - Thunder Wave - Grudge - Destiny Bond Yeah, this is a Platinum tradeback, oh well. I have Jolly nature over the standard Timid nature only because I got a Jolly Misdreavus first. Timid would probably be better so I take less damage from hurting myself in confusion, but I won't bother changing that because it will most likely never make a difference (now that I've said that confusion damage will probably cost me a battle somehow). The first two moves are fairly self-explanatory by now. On the first turn I use Trick (unless I know my opponent has a Choice Scarf as well; I use Thunder Wave against them), and depending on what move they use I either paralyze them, Grudge their move out of PP or switch to Garchomp/Empoleon and set up. If they use an attacking move that doesn't kill Mismagius in 1 or 2 hits, I will use Thunder Wave the next turn, and most likely switch out to Garchomp or Empoleon and set up. If they just use a move like Swords Dance or Agility, I obviously just switch out and set up. If they use a status move, I paralyze them and switch to Garchomp to set up. Grudge is a seldom-used move, but it has come in handy several times. For example, against a Miltank I fought (539 Miltank Silk Scarf Body Slam Giga Impact Earthquake Heal Bell HP/Atk/Sp. Def), I Tricked it into Body Slam on the first turn (it did around 40% I think; I don't remember exactly but it was a 3HKO). Since I didn't want to switch Empoleon into potential paralysis and I didn't want to switch Garchomp into STAB Body Slam (it would've broken Garchomp's Substitutes even if it had a -Atk nature), I just used Grudge. Needless to say, it was a lot easier to set up against a Struggling Miltank than a Body Slamming Miltank. Destiny Bond is there to get that last KO if I need it, since the majority of the time I end up switching out Mismagius rather than sacrificing it. Garchomp@Lum Berry Trait: Sand Veil Nature: Jolly (+Spd, -SpA) EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd - Substitute - Swords Dance - Earthquake - Outrage It's Garchomp. There's not much more to say. If Mismagius locks the opponent's lead into a Fire/Poison/Electric/Rock/status move, Garchomp is most likely going to be setting up and sweeping. I chose Garchomp because it's simply one of the best sweepers in the game to use :x Empoleon@Salac Berry Trait: Torrent Nature: Jolly (+Spd, -SpA) EVs: 8 HP / 248 Atk / 252 Spd - Substitute - Swords Dance - Aqua Jet - Drill Peck I chose Empoleon because it rounds out my team well with its ridiculous number of resists. Together, Empoleon and Garchomp resist every type except Fighting, Ground, and Grass (and Mismagius will almost never Trick opponents into Fighting or Ground moves considering it's immune to them). The idea of this set (if isn't already completely obvious) is to use Swords Dance and Substitute until I'm in Torrent range and Salac Berry activates. Once it does, I hit 184 Speed, which allows me to outspeed base 115 Speed Pokemon with a +Spd nature. Everything faster than Empoleon after a Salac boost is OHKO'd by boosted Aqua Jet (the only Pokemon that even resists it is Sceptile), while Drill Peck hits everything that resists Aqua Jet for neutral damage (excluding Lanturn and enemy Empoleons). I originally couldn't choose between Drill Peck and Return for that fourth slot, but I eventually chose Drill Peck simply because it hits Grass types for super effective damage (and Grass types are pretty annoying for this team). I'm considering ditching Substitute and using something like Waterfall, since it gives Empoleon so much power against slower opponents. Substitute has also been a bit of a pain sometimes. For example, if I'm up against a Pokemon that is trapped using an unstabbed move like Dark Pulse or something, I don't really want to Substitute with Empoleon since it usually takes 3 or more hits just to break the Substitute, and although it gives me plenty of time to Swords Dance three times, it also takes much longer to get down to Salac/Torrent range. If I drop Substitute, though, I will be exposed to a lot more gay things like Ice Beam freezes and whatnot. Also, if I use Waterfall, Drill Peck becomes pretty much useless unless I'm up against Water Absorb/Dry Skin Pokemon or Grass types. This is because STAB Torrent Waterfall is stronger than even a super-effective Drill Peck (Waterfall is 80*1.5*1.5=180 power while Drill Peck is 80*2=160 power), and such a resisted STAB Torrent Waterfall is stronger than a neutral Drill Peck. I guess what I'm wondering is, if I do replace Substitute with Waterfall, should I also replace Drill Peck with Return? Overall, the team is actually really fun to play, and although I lost at battle 55 or something (well, not so much 'lost' as 'my DS froze' lol), I think I'll be able to get a much higher score once I get a new DS and more experience fighting in the Battle Tower. Here are a couple of concerns and Pokemon that I may have problems with if I ever fight them: - I lack a Grass resistance. If I fight a Tangrowth lead, for example, I will be in trouble if it uses Power Whip. Should I just try to Grudge it out of PP? Should I paralyze it and try to set up on it? Should I just Destiny Bond it out of the way? I'm just not sure what I should do if I ever face Tangrowth or similar Pokemon. - Mold Breaker Pokemon. Pinsir shouldn't be a problem really since its first two sets require set up (Earthquake doesn't OHKO unboosted so it wont use it first turn right?), the third set doesn't have Earthquake, and the fourth set has a Choice Scarf (so if I fight a trainer that only uses Pinsir 4, I will just spam Grudge and set up against it afterwards). Rampardos could be a problem though (especially Rampardos 3), and I'm not really sure what I should do to deal with it if I face it. If anyone else has concerns or questions or suggestions about my team, I would love to hear them. I mean, the reason I posted it here and went through the trouble of explaining everything was so that I could get some help improving it :D |
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Oct 26th, 2008, 4:39:16 PM
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alright ill bite. Why use Mismagius over Gengar? Gengar not only gives you the grass resist, but is also faster and learns all fo the same moves missy does (although maybe not grudge which might be why you are using missy).
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Oct 26th, 2008, 5:00:05 PM
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@leftovers Trait: Levitate Nature: Timid (+Spd, - Atk) EVs: 128 hp/ 52 Def/ 118 Sp. Atk/ 212 Speed (the spread it came with from my friend who i got it from) gives it the following stats(hp first) 170/89/110/143/150/169 -Dragon pulse -Hp fire -Calm mind - Wish (for now...) alright, ive always liked latias but haven't quite figured out what the final moveset i want in BT would be.. i put hp fire because while reading how much Jumpman doesn't like metagross and how it is weak to fire i just didn't want to get walled or anything.. don't know what i want to replace wish with.. Zapdos ** Whaukeon @??? Trait: Pressure Nature: Timid (+ Spd, - Sp. Atk) EVs: 42 hp/ 252 sp atk/ 212 speed Stats: 165/97/107/175/108/156 -Signal Beam -Heat Wave -Discharge -Hp ice this thing is just great for now ive been using a life orb with pretty good results as you can see this was traded from platinum i can't figure out what to do or who to add also don't know who can be my lead :/ so if someone wants to help me out itd be great.. |
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Oct 26th, 2008, 5:10:51 PM
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Gengar does get Grudge, but it doesn't get Thunder Wave (I was surprised too, considering it gets Thunderbolt and Thunder). The Grass resist would help, but I find Thunder Wave to be a crucial move for setting up.
I actually was considering Gengar (and Shedinja, actually :x) until I learned neither of them could learn a move that reliably paralyses the opponent. Mismagius also has strictly better defenses than Gengar (60/60/105 vs 60/60/75), and "only" 5 less base Speed. I put that in quotations because the 5 base Speed would probably help a lot outspeeding things after Tricking them. Also, I'm not sure on this one because I'm still not familiar with what attacks the AI uses in what situation, but wouldn't Gengar make me more vulnerable to Mold Breaker Pokemon? |
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Oct 26th, 2008, 5:55:26 PM
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Yeah, it would, but that's not really that big a deal. What is a big deal is using Destiny Bond on your Tricker when your goal is to get one of your sweepers set up? Why bother? It seems counterintuitive to me, and Missy learns all sorts of great moves for a Trick strategy, like Flash, Memento, and even Curse, which would be great for Metagross...though you do have Empoleon and would be less worried about that than I am.
I'd worried more about hammering your Missy set down first...Empoleon is interesting but I would keep the set the way it is for now.
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Oct 26th, 2008, 6:12:18 PM
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I chose Destiny Bond kind of as a 'filler' move honestly, but now that you mention it, Memento looks like a really cool option (and another reason to use Mismagius over Gengar). The only thing with Memento is that I will have to breed for it, but I guess it does give me another reason to rebreed for a Timid nature :x
Once I get a new DS and a Timid Mismagius with Memento, I'll give the Battle Tower another try. |
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Oct 26th, 2008, 11:50:44 PM
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Well so far my team of Suicune, Clefable, Dragonite has done well. Doing hw but on battle 29..Only thinq I hate is; Suicune has to CM a lot to do KO's, even if it's SE aqainst the Pokemon. I almost killed myself when a Licklicky survived my 3CM HP Fight Attack. Only thinq I'm word bout is OHKO users and Gallade. I can't sub OHKO users and Pressure them out like I use to with Raikou. But I quess I'll have to see how far I qet.
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Oct 27th, 2008, 12:05:49 AM
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Why does your Suicune have HP Fight?
Surf actually does more damage than a super-effective HP Fight (70). |
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Oct 27th, 2008, 6:04:51 PM
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For 4x. Likr T-Tar, Weavile. Steel types. Normal. Think I shoudve went for Hp Electric now that I think about it. Or Hp Earth/Fire.
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Oct 27th, 2008, 6:14:20 PM
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Win Streak, Single Battle: 57
Lead: Gengar @ Damp Rock Nature: Timid EVs: 252 Sp. Attack 252 Speed 4 HP Rain Dance Thunderbolt Shadow Ball Hypnosis It's my lead for getting rain dance, and to take out ghosts if my normal attacks fail. Smeargle @ Salac Berry Nature: Jolly EVs: 252 Speed 252 Hp 4 Attack Spore Substitute Belly Drum Batton Pass I belly drum pass to My secret weapon to sweep the whole game :o Magikarp @ Focus Sash Nature: Adamant EVs: 252 Speed 252 Attack 4 Hp Splash Tackle Flail Yes, my secret weapon is... A Magikarp xD After I get sashed, Belly drum passed, and Swift Swim bonus this Magikarp gets over 560 speed. And can OHKO everything, even Ubers. Except ghosts. :( I have to gengar to solve my Ghost problem. Overall, a good team. And its hilarious that I got to 57 Wins with a Magikarp xD.
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Yeah but the problem with that team is it's too frail and won't be taking too many hits, believe me I've tried a Baton Passing team and wasn't too successful, only maxing out at 44 or so wins and the reason was because my Baton Passer was too frail and if the opponent woke up when I Spored them then I would have a problem.
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Wow Some fuckinq CM Hypno killed my Suicune and Clefable. Dragonite DD's. IT THunder Waves. lum Berry. I Outrage. HANGS ON WITH FUCKING FOCUS BAND. T_Waves. Psychic, 95 hp left. Espeon comes out. Psychic. Dead. IF that fckin FOCUS BAND didnt activate FUCKING HACKING I kudve KO'd Both Pokemon.
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He's using Magikarp over Gyarados for its Ability.
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I can't win!
Can anyone help me in improving this set?
LeadKiss (Togekiss) Calm Leftovers Grace 252 hp, 252 speDef, 6 (4) def ThunderWave Air Slash Aura Sphere Roost --- StarExpert (Starmie) Timid Expert Belt Cure Evs: Not properly trained but 255speAtk, some speed and little speDef Surf ThunderBolt IceBeam Psychic (I don't mind putting other moves in if nessesary) --- Bread&Butter (Garchomp) Adamant Yache Berry (Life orb sometimes) Veil Evs: 252Atk, 252Speed, 4Hp Ivs: It is relatively good. (I remember it is: 31HP, 27atk and 27 speed) Outrage Earthquake FireFang SwordDance --- Hope that I can be aided... Last edited by crobatchop; Oct 28th, 2008 at 12:18:03 AM. |
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also pointing out that the 2,7% probability of getting hit by three OHKO`s in a row means that only 3 times (rounding up) of every 100 times you face a lead with OHKO moves they will hit you, so the other 97 times you will have time enought to set up and they will ran out of OHKO move´s PP while you use your substitutes, so it´s pretty good for me to lose to OHKO leads 3 times out of facing 100 of them, considering that for every 100 battles you face a maximum of 10 OHKO leads in my experience.
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Apparently, some guy on Serebii called 'EvilAzn' got 407 with this team:
Skarmory@ Leftovers Ability: Sturdy Nature: Impish EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 156 Def / 4 Spe ~ Drill Peck ~ Roost ~ Stealth Rock ~ Whirlwind Blissey@ Lum Berry Ability: Serene Grace Nature: Bold EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD ~ Calm Mind ~ Softboiled ~ Ice Beam ~ Thunderbolt Infernape@ Life Orb Ability: Blaze Nature: Naive EVs: 24 Atk / 252 SpA / 232 Spe (probably this spread but not sure) ~ Grass Knot ~ Fire Blast ~ Close Combat ~ Hidden Power Ice 69 Is it possible to get over 400 with this team?
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everything´s possible if you´re lucky enough among other things...I think everyone agrees that this won´t be listed for obvious reasons
EDIT: please don´t start a 3-5 page discussion about this the team is not bad...actually it´s similar to my current team as he also uses skarmory + set up normal type that absorbs special hits...on the other hand, there are a lot of ways for the AI to beat this team relatively easily but I don´t want to get into details now anyway, here´s a little question for the experienced tower hikers related to the AI: Your 156HP/81def latios faces Aerodactyl 4 (CB, stone edge, iron head, earthquake, dragon claw) turn one, what attack will Aerodactyl use and why?
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i dont know enough about the AI to be sure but dragon claw would do the most damage
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