DP Battle Tower Records - Page 43

shipship · Nov 1st, 2008, 1:18:50 PM

A bit off topic perhaps, but does anyone spam the first 21 fights just to get that Ability Ribbon on all your ev'd battle-ready pokes?

I can't be the only one. :)

***Jumpman16***** · Nov 1st, 2008, 1:33:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat shipship

I never really look up the tables anymore, though I used to a while ago. I have just under 2000 BP's and a good memory as well.

7394 is a shitload of bp's jumpman! I think you'll be the first to go...
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OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!

no lol, tre posted that he had over 10,000 months ago when i posted that i had ~3,600, and that wasn't counting the 1,000-2,000 he used (i dont like to use mine)

Peterko · Nov 2nd, 2008, 8:23:28 AM

first pearl tower run and I´ve just met cyclist cordell in battle #7 (group 2) and roughneck donnell in battle #14 (group 3), what I wrote on the last page is true so far

lol I´m nowhere near the level of "experience" (number of battles fought) in DP as TRE (just look at his double streaks) or jump because I was breeding way more than doing anything else in DP, mostly because I´m a stand alone player (I have to catch/breed/train everything myself)...I´d definitely be "PKMN Breeder Peterko" in the tower lol...I don´t even have 1000 BP right now because everytime I got to like 300 I wasted them...ehm I mean used them to buy at least 3 of each item etc.

emerald frontier on the other hand was more hardcore with 4966 BP won (just checked my trainer card)

what TRE and jump said is true though, if you play that much you´ll remember the trainer specialization and pokémon sets sooner or later, although to lose a high streak just because you didn´t check the lists is way more "pissed off" material than to lose to hax or whatever

I have the trainer list (the 100 that matter) printed on one piece of paper (both sides) and a modified moveset list on 3 pieces (both sides)

EDIT: I met bug catcher aric (group 5) in battle #28

Iamslow · Nov 2nd, 2008, 10:50:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat shipship

A bit off topic perhaps, but does anyone spam the first 21 fights just to get that Ability Ribbon on all your ev'd battle-ready pokes?

I can't be the only one. :)

Yes, I do to get the relatively easy 20 points from the Tycoon when I need a TM!

FastHippo · Nov 3rd, 2008, 1:04:32 AM

It just happened, again. Thanks to Peterko, I run a 2nd team on another DS. Electivire 4 took my Jolteon down to 1/149, it then used EQ again, rather than Fire or Ice Punch.

Also, Palmer talks WAY too much, before and after.

wtansley · Nov 3rd, 2008, 3:12:43 AM

I've also had many instances where the "weakest move that still KO's" hasn't been selected.. if you ask me, the AI starts off with the highest BP move, then when it has more than one move that it "thinks" will finish you off it just randomly chooses between those (I say "thinks" because as others have said, occasionally it will mess up and use some pathetic move that doesn't quite finish you off - happened a few times against my Cress which is always amusing).

***Jumpman16***** · Nov 4th, 2008, 10:27:44 PM

change is coming...

Carl · Nov 4th, 2008, 10:34:50 PM

you're a beast jump

Chinese Dood · Nov 4th, 2008, 11:24:21 PM

Wow that's amazing!

Groombridge · Nov 5th, 2008, 5:00:06 AM

Truly, this is a great day! No longer will the American people have to settle for the sub-400 BT records of the Bush adminstration!

acinod · Nov 5th, 2008, 5:01:58 AM

I'm at 802 with my team of Ninjask with Sheer Cold and No Guard and Wondertomb with Lock-On Sheer Cold.

jks i know we Smogoners hate hacks

***Jumpman16***** · Nov 5th, 2008, 7:18:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat deuteronopia

Truly, this is a great day! No longer will the American people have to settle for the sub-400 BT records of the Bush adminstration!

lol

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Originally Posted by Fat acinod

I'm at 802 with my team of Ninjask with Sheer Cold and No Guard and Wondertomb with Lock-On Sheer Cold.

jks i know we Smogoners hate hacks

that reminds me of one of the funnier posts in this thread, some guy hacked a wondertomb and still lost to fire fang at like battle 99, haha

acinod · Nov 5th, 2008, 8:21:22 AM

lol

my team was:

ninjask - focus sash - no guard - sheercold/spore/sacredfire/worryseed
spiritomb - leftovers - wonder guard - sheercold/lock-on/magmastorm/worryseed
smeargle (lol i just put him here to get him ribbons, his moves and stats are useless so dw)

I lost at BATTLE 14!!!

I wasn't concentrating so I was just spamming A thinking I would sweep the whole 7 battles with ninjask using sheercold...too bad a lairon got in the way with sturdy (if I was concentrating I would have worryseed it and sheer cold it but I wasn't)
so ninjask died and I switched in spiritomb. i gastroacid and he doubleteams, i lock-on next turn and he double teams, and the following turn HE PROTECTS and i miss my sheer cold! this continued until I lost all my PP and struggled to death.
smeargle died quickly of course because all he had was splash, metoer mash, silver wind, ancientpower (they were for contests) and they did like less than 10% dmg so yeh I lost at Battle 14.

Can't believe I got my friend to hack these 'unstoppable' monsters and lost at battle 14...

Sandslash · Nov 5th, 2008, 2:23:20 PM

spore worry seed combo is lethal :p

shipship · Nov 5th, 2008, 4:48:15 PM

Gastro Acid would be better than Worry Seed there.

Bozo · Nov 6th, 2008, 12:54:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sandslash

spore worry seed combo is lethal :p

wow, believe it or not i came on to report that i had a BT double battle in which this exact thing happened to me. they led with roserade and poliwrath:

turn 1.
gengar used hidden power (ice) - failed to KO roserade. gyarados used dragon dance. roserade used worry seed - gyarados acquired insomnia. poliwrath used hypnosis - gyarados stayed awake because of its insomnia.

not too long ago i saw another stupid thing. their leads (sudowoodo and bellossom) BOTH used weather changing moves on the first turn hehe......

lati0s · Nov 6th, 2008, 4:00:48 PM

im not too suprised by that, i've seen the computer use helping hand+protect before

shipship · Nov 6th, 2008, 5:08:33 PM

About the CPU using the weakest move that would KO:

I had a Weavile (at 1 HP) go against a Charizard.

Weavile was my lead and I was already up 2-0 so I just attacked it.

I used Ice Punch which did about 60% to Charizard. Charizard then used Focus Blast... he missed so I ko'd it with the next hit.

Clearly Focus Blast was his strongest possible move against Weavile, but I had 1 HP left...

FastHippo · Nov 7th, 2008, 3:46:13 AM

Golduck 4 used Hydro Pump against my Lapras, when I was behind a sub and injured. It shocked me. I was under the impression that the AI always knows your ability. He should have used Psychic (it wouldn't've broken my sub) as he had done before.

braytyso07 · Nov 7th, 2008, 6:35:13 PM

My best streak in the battle tower is 67 with a not very good team

Cloyster @ leftovers
Skill link
Lax Nature
Ice Beam
Protect
Spikes
Toxic Spikes

Spikes and Toxic Spikes gives me a good advantage with the others

Lucario 2 Muscle Band
Inner Focus
Adamant Nature
Close Combat
ExtremeSpeed
Swords Dance
Aura Sphere

Swords Dance + Close Combat make a good strategy, except ghost Pokemon are a pain, especially mistreavius [sorry for bad spelling]

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Intimidate
Lonely Nature
Flamethrower
Draco Meteor
Dragon Claw
Hydro Pump

really only used when Lucario and Cloyster got knocked out, which hardly happened anyway

**kd24** · Nov 7th, 2008, 7:38:59 PM

I really can't wait until I can get Platinum. I have a nice Adamant Scizor with great ivs and a very good Mild Zapdos with amazing Special Attack and Hidden Power Grass (I believe). Heat Wave and Bullet Punch are 2 moves that I just can't wait for.

In the mean time, im gonna try this team for fun:

Zapdos: Leftovers
Mild
evs: 4 hp / 252 spa / 252 spe
- thunderbolt
- hidden power
- roost
- toxic (will soon be heat wave)

Slaking: Choice Band
Jolly
evs: 4 hp / 252 atk / 252 spe
- return
- shadow claw
- fire punch
- earthquake

(dont have shadow claw on this yet, hopefully its not an illegal combo in d/p or else i have to wait until platinum :/)

Scizor: Life Orb
Adamant
evs: 252 hp / 252 atk / 4 spe
- swords dance
- bullet punch / iron head (cant wait for platinum so i can use bp)
- quick attack / aerial ace
- x-scissor

dont see a need for a fighting type move yet, aerial ace would be nice for a set up pokemon like this

Shelcario · Nov 7th, 2008, 7:46:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat braytyso07

My best streak in the battle tower is 67 with a not very good team

Cloyster @ leftovers
Skill link
Lax Nature
Ice Beam
Protect
Spikes
Toxic Spikes

Spikes and Toxic Spikes gives me a good advantage with the others

Lucario 2 Muscle Band
Inner Focus
Adamant Nature
Close Combat
ExtremeSpeed
Swords Dance
Aura Sphere

Swords Dance + Close Combat make a good strategy, except ghost Pokemon are a pain, especially mistreavius [sorry for bad spelling]

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Intimidate
Lonely Nature
Flamethrower
Draco Meteor
Dragon Claw
Hydro Pump

really only used when Lucario and Cloyster got knocked out, which hardly happened anyway

That's a lot higher than any streak I could muster in the Singles Battle Tower, a measly 47/48 is my best:( When you compare it to giant streaks such as Jumpmans' then it's like nothing.

frisWEE · Nov 11th, 2008, 6:02:45 AM

u just have to like figure a strategy to beat the tower methods. i mean u know that they dont switch out so trick/switcheroo is a great tactic. im using that tactic but with a machamp with bulk up, dynamic punch and bullet punch and sub. if that dies to a usually psychic move or flying cos i max ev trained hp i have gengar who revenge kills with shadow ball or thunderbolt and can also counter. atm i am at around 77 and its working. may use lopunny instead of Zam but zam is useful to set up screens for machamp.

hey can anyone answer why the TT's milotic always hits hydro pump. its sucks.

No_One411 · Nov 11th, 2008, 11:48:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat braytyso07

My best streak in the battle tower is 67 with a not very good team

Cloyster @ leftovers
Skill link
Lax Nature
Ice Beam
Protect
Spikes
Toxic Spikes

Spikes and Toxic Spikes gives me a good advantage with the others

Lucario 2 Muscle Band
Inner Focus
Adamant Nature
Close Combat
ExtremeSpeed
Swords Dance
Aura Sphere

Swords Dance + Close Combat make a good strategy, except ghost Pokemon are a pain, especially mistreavius [sorry for bad spelling]

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Intimidate
Lonely Nature
Flamethrower
Draco Meteor
Dragon Claw
Hydro Pump

really only used when Lucario and Cloyster got knocked out, which hardly happened anyway

Why does Cloyster have Skill Link if it can't utilize it at all? At least Shell Armor prevents the AI from scoring cheap critical hits on you.

I'd recommend Crunch/Shadow Claw on Lucario over Aura Sphere. The main reasons being that Aura Sphere is special based and that you said you had trouble with Ghosts.

On Salamence, I probably would get rid of Dragon Claw and switch it out with Dragon Pulse.

Ranz · Nov 13th, 2008, 8:05:16 AM

Has anyone here got Tips on why Garchomp got so useful in the BT? almost 80% of the Teams use it nowadays..

My questions:
Does shiny pokemon appear in the battle tower? Cuz i remembered once, I once used a shiny feraligatr at the Battle Factory in Emerald..

anyone?

Nov 1st, 2008, 1:18:50 PM	#1051
shipship Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 177	A bit off topic perhaps, but does anyone spam the first 21 fights just to get that Ability Ribbon on all your ev'd battle-ready pokes? I can't be the only one. :) __________________ The best poker player on smogon. Proud to be atheist and vegetarian.

Nov 2nd, 2008, 8:23:28 AM	#1053
Peterko Never give up! Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,070	first pearl tower run and I´ve just met cyclist cordell in battle #7 (group 2) and roughneck donnell in battle #14 (group 3), what I wrote on the last page is true so far lol I´m nowhere near the level of "experience" (number of battles fought) in DP as TRE (just look at his double streaks) or jump because I was breeding way more than doing anything else in DP, mostly because I´m a stand alone player (I have to catch/breed/train everything myself)...I´d definitely be "PKMN Breeder Peterko" in the tower lol...I don´t even have 1000 BP right now because everytime I got to like 300 I wasted them...ehm I mean used them to buy at least 3 of each item etc. emerald frontier on the other hand was more hardcore with 4966 BP won (just checked my trainer card) what TRE and jump said is true though, if you play that much you´ll remember the trainer specialization and pokémon sets sooner or later, although to lose a high streak just because you didn´t check the lists is way more "pissed off" material than to lose to hax or whatever I have the trainer list (the 100 that matter) printed on one piece of paper (both sides) and a modified moveset list on 3 pieces (both sides) EDIT: I met bug catcher aric (group 5) in battle #28 __________________ Black & White Battle Subway Records Platinum/HG/SS Battle Frontier and DP Battle Tower Records DP Battle Tower Records (Smogon's Greatest Hits) Emerald Battle Frontier Max Stats Pokemon Database Battle Subway Super Singles record: 623 - Cloyster, Garchomp, Suicune Last edited by Peterko; Nov 2nd, 2008 at 9:34:15 AM.

Nov 3rd, 2008, 1:04:32 AM	#1055
FastHippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 153	It just happened, again. Thanks to Peterko, I run a 2nd team on another DS. Electivire 4 took my Jolteon down to 1/149, it then used EQ again, rather than Fire or Ice Punch. Also, Palmer talks WAY too much, before and after. Last edited by FastHippo; Nov 3rd, 2008 at 3:28:07 AM.

Nov 3rd, 2008, 3:12:43 AM	#1056
wtansley Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 54	I've also had many instances where the "weakest move that still KO's" hasn't been selected.. if you ask me, the AI starts off with the highest BP move, then when it has more than one move that it "thinks" will finish you off it just randomly chooses between those (I say "thinks" because as others have said, occasionally it will mess up and use some pathetic move that doesn't quite finish you off - happened a few times against my Cress which is always amusing). __________________ 4511 1424 7501

Nov 4th, 2008, 10:27:44 PM	#1057
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Nov 4th, 2008, 10:34:50 PM	#1058
Carl or Varl Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,530 Gear Station	you're a beast jump __________________ frlg snorlax.

Nov 4th, 2008, 11:24:21 PM	#1059
Chinese Dood Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,053	Wow that's amazing!

Nov 5th, 2008, 5:00:06 AM	#1060
Groombridge Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 113	Truly, this is a great day! No longer will the American people have to settle for the sub-400 BT records of the Bush adminstration! __________________ Formerly d e u t e r o n o p i a UQM FTW

Nov 5th, 2008, 5:01:58 AM	#1061
acinod Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 798 Australia	I'm at 802 with my team of Ninjask with Sheer Cold and No Guard and Wondertomb with Lock-On Sheer Cold. jks i know we Smogoners hate hacks __________________ Platinum Friend Code: 1676 6413 1995 Heart Gold Friend Code: 4340 4908 9618 Trade Thread has been revived: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46182 NEWEST RNG BREED: Adamant Gyarados 31 / 31 / 31 / x / 31 / 31 (Flawless much?) Annoying Mushrooms - OU RMT

Nov 5th, 2008, 8:21:22 AM	#1063
acinod Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 798 Australia	lol my team was: ninjask - focus sash - no guard - sheercold/spore/sacredfire/worryseed spiritomb - leftovers - wonder guard - sheercold/lock-on/magmastorm/worryseed smeargle (lol i just put him here to get him ribbons, his moves and stats are useless so dw) I lost at BATTLE 14!!! I wasn't concentrating so I was just spamming A thinking I would sweep the whole 7 battles with ninjask using sheercold...too bad a lairon got in the way with sturdy (if I was concentrating I would have worryseed it and sheer cold it but I wasn't) so ninjask died and I switched in spiritomb. i gastroacid and he doubleteams, i lock-on next turn and he double teams, and the following turn HE PROTECTS and i miss my sheer cold! this continued until I lost all my PP and struggled to death. smeargle died quickly of course because all he had was splash, metoer mash, silver wind, ancientpower (they were for contests) and they did like less than 10% dmg so yeh I lost at Battle 14. Can't believe I got my friend to hack these 'unstoppable' monsters and lost at battle 14... __________________ Platinum Friend Code: 1676 6413 1995 Heart Gold Friend Code: 4340 4908 9618 Trade Thread has been revived: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46182 NEWEST RNG BREED: Adamant Gyarados 31 / 31 / 31 / x / 31 / 31 (Flawless much?) Annoying Mushrooms - OU RMT

Nov 5th, 2008, 2:23:20 PM	#1064
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Nov 5th, 2008, 4:48:15 PM	#1065
shipship Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 177	Gastro Acid would be better than Worry Seed there. __________________ The best poker player on smogon. Proud to be atheist and vegetarian.

Nov 6th, 2008, 4:00:48 PM	#1067
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Nov 6th, 2008, 5:08:33 PM	#1068
shipship Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 177	About the CPU using the weakest move that would KO: I had a Weavile (at 1 HP) go against a Charizard. Weavile was my lead and I was already up 2-0 so I just attacked it. I used Ice Punch which did about 60% to Charizard. Charizard then used Focus Blast... he missed so I ko'd it with the next hit. Clearly Focus Blast was his strongest possible move against Weavile, but I had 1 HP left... __________________ The best poker player on smogon. Proud to be atheist and vegetarian.

Nov 7th, 2008, 3:46:13 AM	#1069
FastHippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 153	Golduck 4 used Hydro Pump against my Lapras, when I was behind a sub and injured. It shocked me. I was under the impression that the AI always knows your ability. He should have used Psychic (it wouldn't've broken my sub) as he had done before.

Nov 7th, 2008, 6:35:13 PM	#1070
braytyso07 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5	My best streak in the battle tower is 67 with a not very good team Cloyster @ leftovers Skill link Lax Nature Ice Beam Protect Spikes Toxic Spikes Spikes and Toxic Spikes gives me a good advantage with the others Lucario 2 Muscle Band Inner Focus Adamant Nature Close Combat ExtremeSpeed Swords Dance Aura Sphere Swords Dance + Close Combat make a good strategy, except ghost Pokemon are a pain, especially mistreavius [sorry for bad spelling] Salamence @ Choice Specs Intimidate Lonely Nature Flamethrower Draco Meteor Dragon Claw Hydro Pump really only used when Lucario and Cloyster got knocked out, which hardly happened anyway __________________ http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k...ucariocopy.png

Nov 7th, 2008, 7:38:59 PM	#1071
kd24 Surprise Mother Fucker Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,769 HOME	I really can't wait until I can get Platinum. I have a nice Adamant Scizor with great ivs and a very good Mild Zapdos with amazing Special Attack and Hidden Power Grass (I believe). Heat Wave and Bullet Punch are 2 moves that I just can't wait for. In the mean time, im gonna try this team for fun: Zapdos: Leftovers Mild evs: 4 hp / 252 spa / 252 spe - thunderbolt - hidden power - roost - toxic (will soon be heat wave) Slaking: Choice Band Jolly evs: 4 hp / 252 atk / 252 spe - return - shadow claw - fire punch - earthquake (dont have shadow claw on this yet, hopefully its not an illegal combo in d/p or else i have to wait until platinum :/) Scizor: Life Orb Adamant evs: 252 hp / 252 atk / 4 spe - swords dance - bullet punch / iron head (cant wait for platinum so i can use bp) - quick attack / aerial ace - x-scissor dont see a need for a fighting type move yet, aerial ace would be nice for a set up pokemon like this __________________ My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLemondrop7

Nov 11th, 2008, 6:02:45 AM	#1073
frisWEE Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 13	u just have to like figure a strategy to beat the tower methods. i mean u know that they dont switch out so trick/switcheroo is a great tactic. im using that tactic but with a machamp with bulk up, dynamic punch and bullet punch and sub. if that dies to a usually psychic move or flying cos i max ev trained hp i have gengar who revenge kills with shadow ball or thunderbolt and can also counter. atm i am at around 77 and its working. may use lopunny instead of Zam but zam is useful to set up screens for machamp. hey can anyone answer why the TT's milotic always hits hydro pump. its sucks.

Nov 13th, 2008, 8:05:16 AM	#1075
Ranz Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 243 Cebu City	Has anyone here got Tips on why Garchomp got so useful in the BT? almost 80% of the Teams use it nowadays.. My questions: Does shiny pokemon appear in the battle tower? Cuz i remembered once, I once used a shiny feraligatr at the Battle Factory in Emerald.. anyone? __________________ Who cares?