(Gen 3) I was never really good with titles..

[Dekzeh]

This is obviously designed to take on OU teams.

Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 64 SAtk / 176 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Rest
- Spikes
- Surf

Cloyster is the sexiest pokemon ever :´)

Cradily (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Suction Cups
EVs: 220 HP / 88 Atk / 200 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Rock Slide
- Toxic

Those Atk EVs are there for a reason that I can't remember right now.. Something to do with Kou/Zapdos probably since it's the main reason this is here.

Slowbro (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 212 HP / 178 Def / 120 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Slobro. Much needed bulky water.
The SAtk is to actually put some hurt on Zapdos switches >.>.

Hariyama (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 140 HP / 252 Def / 116 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Cross Chop
- Whirlwind

Hariyama is so sexy that if I was female, I'd have sex with it.

Misdreavus (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 64 Spd / 32 SAtk / 176 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Pain Split
- Perish Song
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic

Don't ask me why I want to outspeed TTar.
Debating between Tbolt and Shadowball since hurting Gengar harder would be cool.

Miltank (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 212 HP / 56 Atk / 16 Spd / 224 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink

Cute.

[Oxypad]

Originally Posted by Fat Dekzeh

This is obviously designed to take on OU teams.

Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 64 SAtk / 176 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Rest
- Spikes
- Surf

Cloyster is the sexiest pokemon ever :´)

Fine...but I'll just say that if I was ever to use an Ice type, I'd give it Ice Beam if it could use it well...to make up for how crappy Ice is defensively.

Cradily (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Suction Cups
EVs: 220 HP / 88 Atk / 200 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Rock Slide
- Toxic

Those Atk EVs are there for a reason that I can't remember right now.. Something to do with Kou/Zapdos probably since it's the main reason this is here.

I see it working to stop Electrics. Jirachi, too?

Slowbro (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 212 HP / 178 Def / 120 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Slobro. Much needed bulky water.
The SAtk is to actually put some hurt on Zapdos switches >.>.

Not the greatest with that crappy trait it has (what good battler uses confusion?). Calm Mind>Sleep Talk. Unless you want to switch this in on Breloom, Milotic outshines it.

Hariyama (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 140 HP / 252 Def / 116 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Cross Chop
- Whirlwind

Hariyama is so sexy that if I was female, I'd have sex with it.
I like Thick Fat Hariyama. Transfer some HP to SDef to help against Gengar. Try dropping Sleep Talk for something cooler like Knock Off, or HP Ghost as a last recommendation.

Misdreavus (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 64 Spd / 32 SAtk / 176 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Pain Split
- Perish Song
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic

Don't ask me why I want to outspeed TTar.
Debating between Tbolt and Shadowball since hurting Gengar harder would be cool.

I see it delaying Suicune from doing much. Thunderbolt is necessary somewhere on the team, so keep it. You must be using this for Perish Song. Calm Mind + Taunt is great if Perish Song is proving useless.

Miltank (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 212 HP / 56 Atk / 16 Spd / 224 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink

Cute.

Cute. Curse would make Miltank a beast defensively, but I don't like it. You have to keep Heal Bell + Milk Drink. Shadow Ball over Curse stops Gengar.

Heracross problems. Jirachi maybe. Since Misdreavus is the only "flier," CB/STAB Earthquake will cause severe damage. I'd get another flier/levitator.

Gligar appeals to me...it also gets STAB Earthquake and HP Fly. It could replace Cradily...but then I might try Miltank with Psych Up instead of Curse to hold up against stat-upping special sweepers. (Then put HP Ghost on Hariyama? Or better yet Rock Slide since Zapdos will still be scary and it can still hit Gengar.)

O BTW if you get rid of Cradily, Omastar can go over Cloyster to provide a nice flying/normal resist, which you need. But then you're stuck with no rapid spin. Your love for Cloyster is acknowledged, though.

[Dekzeh]

Rest is a must on Cloyster for me, and Surf hits Forry so I won't be using Ice Beam.

A trait doesnt make a pokemon good or not. Slowbro is ok the way as it otherwise I'd have some serious Mence problems.

I might replace Sleep Talk on Hariyama for Knock Off, I'm still not entirely sure. Hariyama doesn't have to take on Gengar as Cradily handles pure special versions just ok.
After I know what set Gengar is using I can handle it...

MissyD is there mainly for spin blocking and Perish Song is a must for 'last poke anything that sets up and has a way to get around toxic'.

CB Hera will have a hard time getting around Slowbro/Hariyama and even MissyD.
MoPCross is handled by Hariyama.
Reversal is a bitch, but whatever.

Jirachi is countered by Cradily, unless its those Reflect + CM versions, then its GG.

If I get rid of Cradily, I'm getting swept by a bunch of SAtkers that it's not even fun. Especially for something like Gligar...

Psych Up on Miltank is useless tbh. If anything I'd use Growl, but Curse is staying.

Without Cloyster, Pert can give me problems so I can't really replace it.


My main concern with this team is CMPass Celebi :/
When I see it I have to just accept I lost.

[Umby]

I don't see a real need for Sleep Talk on any sets if a Cleric is present. Consider Steelix somewhere.

[Bugsy23]

Yeah Raikou's Hp Ice would do between 30%-35% to Cradily so make sure you take care of it because any damage before hand can cause it to kill you before you can kill it even if you try to go 1 on 1 with 1 Calm Mind. Hari helps I guess, but note that it will be 2hko'd by Thunderbolt after that Calm Mind.

It would be nice to have a surefire way to beat opposing ghosts other than Toxic; I can see Spike teams with Dusclops causing you to do a lot of switching, seeing as none of your pokemon can actually kill a Resting version outside of Perish Song. Calm Mind Slowbro would be a nice fit here since Hari will take sleep for you and you have a Heal Beller. It is interesting that every one of your pokemon has a recovery move...

Just things to pay attention to, but other than that have fun with this team.

[Oxypad]

OK so you have Heracross "covered" in a sense with Misdreavus + Hariyama. But it comes in easily on everything. Nothing scares it away from launching CB Megahorn, worst case scenario. Hariyama is the only thing that can take more than 2 Megahorns like that, and doesn't scare Heracross in return.

On Cradily, if you're not hitting anything w/ Toxic, try HP Grass w/ Sassy to help fend off Swampert and give Cloyster a break. (Unless you find Swampert switching in on Cradily and you are Toxicing it.)

I just get the sense that the team is relying on Cradily a lot and Miltank is not really involved with anything except healing. With only Body Slam w/ Curse, it's silly.

O and a flying resist, please. Heal Bell Ampharos comes to mind as a replacement for Miltank, but then I'd be paranoid about Duggie. Steelix helps relieve some of Cradily's duties and stops Jirachi. Nevertheless, I'd want another flier/levitator too.

[z0MG]

Originally Posted by Fat Oxypad

OK so you have Heracross "covered" in a sense with Misdreavus + Hariyama. But it comes in easily on everything. Nothing scares it away from launching CB Megahorn, worst case scenario. Hariyama is the only thing that can take more than 2 Megahorns like that, and doesn't scare Heracross in return.
this is a fucking UU/BL team, don't expect it to wall everything like you'd expect from a OU team.

On Cradily, if you're not hitting anything w/ Toxic, try HP Grass w/ Sassy to help fend off Swampert and give Cloyster a break. (Unless you find Swampert switching in on Cradily and you are Toxicing it.)
Of course he's hitting stuff with Toxic. Cloyster and Slowbro walls pert all day, so he shouldn't worry about it. Cradily can also outstall it with Toxic + Recover. Meh.

I just get the sense that the team is relying on Cradily a lot and Miltank is not really involved with anything except healing. With only Body Slam w/ Curse, it's silly.
Don't say things like that if you have never tried the team.

O and a flying resist, please. Heal Bell Ampharos comes to mind as a replacement for Miltank, but then I'd be paranoid about Duggie. Steelix helps relieve some of Cradily's duties and stops Jirachi. Nevertheless, I'd want another flier/levitator too.

[Umby]

Originally Posted by Fat zOMG

this is a fucking UU/BL team, don't expect it to wall everything like you'd expect from a OU team.

Originally Posted by Fat Dekzeh

This is obviously designed to take on OU teams.

[Oxypad]

Yeah. Says it all.
But zOMG does remind us that this team isn't using legendaries/standards and so it can't truly compete with the likes of Jirachi, Hera, Raikou, etc. The thread title doesn't even mention how it is an UU/BL team, but maybe that's to avoid stigmatizing the team.

[Umby]

Wait, what? Misdreavus is OU.

[cookie]

You might run into problems with Tyraniboah, with Hariyama the only one it doesn't hit for SE. And that can only threaten with Cross Chop, which only has 8 PP.

[z0MG]

Originally Posted by Fat Synchronize

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Yes, I know it's supposed to compete with OU teams, but he was talking about it like it was a OU stall team.

[JimBob]

Originally Posted by Fat Synchronize

Wait, what? Misdreavus is OU.

since when is missy OU? more like UU, or BL at best, with that 425 stat total. Good movepool, good immunities, but its defenses and offenses are too low for her to really compete well in OU. Unless you think that she's better than gar because she isn't psychic weak?

[Umby]

Originally Posted by Fat JimBob

since when is missy OU? more like UU, or BL at best, with that 425 stat total. Good movepool, good immunities, but its defenses and offenses are too low for her to really compete well in OU. Unless you think that she's better than gar because she isn't psychic weak?

Your troll detector is broken.

[Hey Oh]

i think i battled this with my BL team right? I think i ended up winning by sunny day exeggutor, which causes your team ALOT of problems. Your only pokemon that doesnt hate the hits that much is cradily, but a well played sleep powder and thats no big deal.

Not any real good gyarados counters, but miltank/cradily can annoy it if they dont play right. To me it looks like if they play right with taunt gyara, they should win rather easily.

I know your completely aware how much celebi rapes you lol. Especially CM bpass with psychic. You have absolutely no way in stopping that, then you asked me how i stop it with BL. My team uses zard/steelix/dodrio to scare it away, but with this team, you really cant stop it at all. My advice would be tooo.....uhh.......maybe try hp bug on cradily? lol i think i told you that on NB before.

Overall nice team, but mines better! =)

[z0MG]

Yeah, definitely Eggy weak, like most teams.