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Damnit guys, ThunderPunch is how it's spelled in DP. In other games, it isn't written Thunderpunch, it's written THUNDERPUNCH. There isn't any controversy over it.
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np: Biffy Clyro - Shock Shock
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Now look what happened. I shouldn't have brought up the question in the first place.
To avoid confusion:
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Un-nicknamed and wild Pokémon's names are capitalised as are place names.
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jolly roger bay in banjo&kazooie yep ~_~
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I stickied this now, it seems very useful to refer back to.
Also, I think tiers should go completely uncapitalized when not abbreviated (uber, overused, borderline, underused, never used (or neverused?)). Last edited by Mekkah; Mar 20th, 2008 at 2:48:34 PM. |
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Fast-moving, smart, sexy and alarming.
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In lists with more than two things, it should be written in the format
I went to the store with Bob, Jane, and Mike. We use the comma before "and" on Smogon.
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Posted this sorta before itt but whatever: Terms that "we" invented, how are we going to spell and capitalize them? Proposing:
uber overused borderline underused neverused / never used (not sure on this one) counter Also, if a move is used on a Pokemon, describing the condition of that Pokemon would be capitalized as well, in my opinion. Gyarados gets Thunderbolted. You have no fear of a Disabled or Tormented Choice Bander. |
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I think the tiers should go:
Uber Overused Borderline Underused Never-used counter is lowercase. Seconding the condition part.
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I prefer to capitalize tiers, but I'll wait for a bit more input on that. I'll add the condition stuff.
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Actually, the 'eyes' in Compoundeyes isn't capitalized ingame, oddly enough. Neither is the 'rod' in Lightningrod. The 'Edge' in Double-Edge is capitalized, however.
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Alright, I understand this, but I have one question.
If we refer to one of our "set names" somewhere in our analysis, do they keep capitalization as well? Eg. Would it be "Physical Attacker", or "physical attacker" if we mention it somewhere else in our analysis? |
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Hidden Power Type, not Hidden Power [Type], in my opinion. I believe this is how we've always done it.
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I'm making a series of edits to various Move, Ability, and Item entries in the Pokédex to add info about Double Battles. Which is preferable, 'Double Battle', 'double battle', or 'Double battle'? I have a moderate preference for the first option, but I think that's because I only ever see it as a menu option in-game and it's always capitalized there.
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Is it supposed to be "a OHKO" or "an OHKO"
If pronounced O-H-K-O it should be "an" but if it's read One hit KO it should be "a"
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"an OHKO"
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I always pronounced it "One-Hit KO", which is why I've used "a" over "an". Just some interesting numbers, Google returns 5.7K for "a OHKO" vs. 1.9K for "an OHKO". Brawl and Pokemon appear to make up nearly all of the results. =p
However, I didn't come to this thread to discuss that. I came here to discuss an issue that is almost identical. We use 2HKO, 3HKO, etc. to describe other KO numbers. Why then is it OHKO instead of 1HKO? I kind of like 1HKO.
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because thats how it is? i happen to like OHKO :)
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OHKO is more "aesthetically pleasing" despite not being consistent, since "Oh" is a vowel sound, and segues better into "aitch" than "One" since you can use the "w" sound inbetween both. "Two" and "Three" also end with vowel sounds which let you use the "y" sound in between so 2hko and 3hko work well.
/useless post xD
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Are pokemon referred to as objects or 'people'? In other words, would it be, "Garchomp, who often carries Outrage," or, "Garchomp, which often carries Outrage"?
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If that is up for debate I would vote "who" since it sounds better and is more intuitive. Even though the correct form would actually be "whom" :p
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I agree that 'who' sounds better. I just want for it to be consistent everywhere:
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The plural of a Pokemon is identical to the singular of that Pokemon. One Blissey, two Blissey. Never two Blisseys.
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With advent of pt, we have plenty of different formes of pokemon.
What should be the uniform standard notation on smogon - formes or forms?
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Nintendo calls them Formes, I don't see why we shouldn't use the "e".
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Okay, I will try to keep the bitter hatred of this stupid word out of my post okay this is really just a platform for me to vent about how much I hate formes [sic].
In all cases I can think of off the top of my head we've followed Nintendo's spellings, etc., and I guess to be consistent we'd follow here, but not only would that be really difficult to get people to keep doing but it's just plain incorrect. It looks absolutely awful and unprofessional, and it's a completely arbitrary 'e' in the first place. If we were using formes, iirc we'd have to capitalise the F too, which would just be even worse: 'alternate Formes of Rotom' oh my God this is not the middle ages. Nintendo weren't always doing it, anyway, although that';s not a brilliant argument as then we could probably still say Hypnosis has 70% acc. Formes seems more of a specific noun to me, too, so we could simply avoid it and just treat forms like a separate name, as if it was the word 'varieties' or something, as opposed to using the official word 'formes'. Also relevant to 'Small Nitpicky Things That Don't Matter But I Would Like to Know for Once and for All', Underused, UnderUsed, or underused? Mekkah and GS gave contrasting answers iirc. Personally I just prefer Underused when referring to the tier [or UU], and 'underused' when referring to the Pokémon's usage/the 'underused environment'.
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