Standards for Grammar / Spelling, What a Good Writer Looks out for - Page 4

Syberia · Oct 23rd, 2008, 3:01:03 PM

Well, to be perfectly honest, we don't know what they'll be called in English yet, as far as I know, until Nintendo releases some sort of official information on them.

***RBG**** · Oct 23rd, 2008, 3:06:41 PM

Except for the pokemon.com pokedex.

Which say "Normal Forme" for deoxys.

Syberia · Oct 23rd, 2008, 3:13:00 PM

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. However, "forms" is still an appropriate term, as it is simply a generic noun for describing what they are. I agree with Misaki's reasoning that it just looks stupid and unprofessional.

Lee · Oct 23rd, 2008, 4:54:41 PM

Who are we to say it looks stupid and unprofessional though? Surely "Feraligatr" looks stupid and it's a well known fact that it's only spelt like that as opposed to Feralligator because names are limited to 10 letters and Nintendo had to improvise but that doesn't give us the right to start spelling it however we please.

I don't even think there's an argument to be had here. If Nintendo spells it with an e, then so should we.

IcyMan28 · Oct 23rd, 2008, 5:10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Lee

Who are we to say it looks stupid and unprofessional though? Surely "Feraligatr" looks stupid and it's a well known fact that it's only spelt like that as opposed to Feralligator because names are limited to 10 letters and Nintendo had to improvise but that doesn't give us the right to start spelling it however we please.

I don't even think there's an argument to be had here. If Nintendo spells it with an e, then so should we.

I agree. It would be unproffesional for Smogon to be so nitpicky and accurate on detail, and then turn around and not include something as simple as the letter "e" on the end of a word.

***jumpluff**** · Oct 23rd, 2008, 9:41:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Lee

Who are we to say it looks stupid and unprofessional though? Surely "Feraligatr" looks stupid and it's a well known fact that it's only spelt like that as opposed to Feralligator because names are limited to 10 letters and Nintendo had to improvise but that doesn't give us the right to start spelling it however we please.

I don't even think there's an argument to be had here. If Nintendo spells it with an e, then so should we.

Like Syberia said, forms is still an acceptable term for it if we use it generically. Feraligatr is a proper noun.

[Wow, had no idea this would generate so much discussion]

darkie · Dec 16th, 2008, 8:20:55 PM

I think the pokemon.com pokedex is reason enough to use formes over form.

When referring to nature, the convention is "Adamant nature" and not "Adamant Nature".

To clarify: I tend to use OHKOes as the verb form ("Salamence OHKOes Alakazam") and OHKOs like a noun ("Salamence scores many OHKOs").

Caelum · Dec 19th, 2008, 11:49:02 PM

This is a small thing but we mine as well be consistent, in analysis when talking about resistances if we are attempting to convey a 4x resistance do we use "x4" or "4x". I generally prefer "4x".

gorm · Dec 20th, 2008, 12:10:16 AM

yeah i dunno how relevant it is but in my nintendo pokedex thingy even firered deoxys is referred to as "attack forme"

it's really silly but i say we just go with it =\

darkie · Jan 2nd, 2009, 1:40:06 AM

#x looks right to me, too.

new topic:

DPP or DPPt?

Personally, I don't mind either, but we should at least keep it consistent. (fyi - Serebii has it listed on their site as DPPt.)

Caelum · Jan 2nd, 2009, 1:42:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat darkie

#x looks right to me, too.

new topic:

DPP or DPPt?

Personally, I don't mind either, but we should at least keep it consistent. (fyi - Serebii has it listed on their site as DPPt.)

I kinda prefer DPP to keep in line with the three letter theme (RBY , GSC, RSE); but maybe we should be consistent with other sites? I suppose it doesn't matter.

Venom · Jan 2nd, 2009, 10:22:23 AM

I like DPP as well tbh

Colonel M · Jan 2nd, 2009, 10:25:50 AM

I like DPPt honestly because DPP makes me think we have Pearl listed twice or something. But DPP is fine I guess.

twash · Jan 2nd, 2009, 10:27:37 AM

DPP in my opinion, to go with the three-lettered theme.

Legacy Raider · Feb 4th, 2009, 9:01:36 AM

Are 'roles' capitalised? Is it a "Sweeper" or a "sweeper", a "Special Wall" or a "special wall"? A "Phazer" or a "phazer"?
Also, "Entry Hazards" or "entry hazards"?

Blue Kirby · Feb 4th, 2009, 9:23:05 AM

Don't capitalize them. :)

diinbong · Feb 10th, 2009, 8:33:15 PM

I was wondering if the correct Spelling is

ResTalk

or

Resttalk

or

RestTalk

or

doesn't matter

thank you

darkie · Feb 10th, 2009, 8:36:44 PM

I personally try not to use that abbreviation in my analyses. Regardless, I think the third is the best of those (RestTalk).

X-Trader · Feb 15th, 2009, 11:21:43 AM

Regarding any Pokemon who ends with an 's': Do we use an apostrophe then another 's' or just an apostrophe? Or can we use either with stipulations? Ex: Latias's would be referring to the Latias that is in question while Latias' would be for all Latias.

twash · Feb 15th, 2009, 11:26:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sikh Assassin

Regarding any Pokemon who ends with an 's': Do we use an apostrophe then another 's' or just an apostrophe? Or can we use either with stipulations? Ex: Latias's would be referring to the Latias that is in question while Latias' would be for all Latias.

I believe if the Pokémon ends with "s" it's fine to use either; otherwise stick to "'s". At least, that's the way I've always done it.

eg. Latias would be either Latias' or Latias's.
Groudon would be Groudon's.

darkie · Feb 15th, 2009, 3:25:29 PM

I asked English major Jumpman about this a couple months ago. He told me that for words that end with s, you can use ' or 's for singular nouns (Latias' or Latias's, princess' or princess's). The ' ending is only necessary when plural (Latias', princesses').

X-Trader · Feb 15th, 2009, 5:29:51 PM

Thank you darkie.

***jumpluff**** · Feb 15th, 2009, 8:53:20 PM

Personally I would suggest using Latias's for singular; it distinguishes it from Latias'. ~_~

darkie · Feb 15th, 2009, 8:56:12 PM

I do agree.

diinbong · Mar 3rd, 2009, 7:51:39 AM

Is it SuperPower, or Superpower? I don't have a game so I can't check, but I'm fairly sure it's Superpower since that's what I keep getting on the internet.

EDIT: Okay, it's Superpower. Might want to add that because I saw some misspelling it. thanks

Oct 23rd, 2008, 3:01:03 PM	#76
Syberia Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,915 Irvine, CA	Well, to be perfectly honest, we don't know what they'll be called in English yet, as far as I know, until Nintendo releases some sort of official information on them. __________________ Black/White Friend Code: 1721 2578 4968 My Pokemon \| Free Pokemon \| YouTube \| Wonder Cards (now with Movie Celebis for Platinum and HG/SS!)

Oct 23rd, 2008, 3:06:41 PM	#77
*RBG It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. Super Moderator** Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,228 Home: Goshen Scout Reservation	Except for the pokemon.com pokedex. Which say "Normal Forme" for deoxys. __________________ Alder: N, even if we don't understand each other, that's not a reason to reject each other. There are two sides to an argument. Is there one point of view that has all the answers? Give it some thought.

Oct 23rd, 2008, 3:13:00 PM	#78
Syberia Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,915 Irvine, CA	Oh, I wasn't aware of that. However, "forms" is still an appropriate term, as it is simply a generic noun for describing what they are. I agree with Misaki's reasoning that it just looks stupid and unprofessional. __________________ Black/White Friend Code: 1721 2578 4968 My Pokemon \| Free Pokemon \| YouTube \| Wonder Cards (now with Movie Celebis for Platinum and HG/SS!) Last edited by Syberia; Oct 23rd, 2008 at 3:15:02 PM.

Dec 16th, 2008, 8:20:55 PM	#82
darkie coolcoolcool Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,351 Plano, TX	I think the pokemon.com pokedex is reason enough to use formes over form. When referring to nature, the convention is "Adamant nature" and not "Adamant Nature". To clarify: I tend to use OHKOes as the verb form ("Salamence OHKOes Alakazam") and OHKOs like a noun ("Salamence scores many OHKOs"). __________________ Last edited by darkie; Dec 26th, 2008 at 7:53:43 PM.

Dec 20th, 2008, 12:10:16 AM	#84
gorm Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,206 ½gone	yeah i dunno how relevant it is but in my nintendo pokedex thingy even firered deoxys is referred to as "attack forme" it's really silly but i say we just go with it =\ __________________ pretentious like a 7th son infectious like h1n1

Oct 23rd, 2008, 4:54:41 PM	#79
Lee @ Thick Club Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,316 Lake District, UK	Who are we to say it looks stupid and unprofessional though? Surely "Feraligatr" looks stupid and it's a well known fact that it's only spelt like that as opposed to Feralligator because names are limited to 10 letters and Nintendo had to improvise but that doesn't give us the right to start spelling it however we please. I don't even think there's an argument to be had here. If Nintendo spells it with an e, then so should we.

Dec 19th, 2008, 11:49:02 PM	#83
Caelum qibz official stalker Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,656 good question	This is a small thing but we mine as well be consistent, in analysis when talking about resistances if we are attempting to convey a 4x resistance do we use "x4" or "4x". I generally prefer "4x".

Jan 2nd, 2009, 1:40:06 AM	#85
darkie coolcoolcool Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,351 Plano, TX	#x looks right to me, too. new topic: DPP or DPPt? Personally, I don't mind either, but we should at least keep it consistent. (fyi - Serebii has it listed on their site as DPPt.) __________________

Jan 2nd, 2009, 10:22:23 AM	#87
Venom Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,492 Houston, TX	I like DPP as well tbh __________________

Jan 2nd, 2009, 10:27:37 AM	#89
twash A kiki is a party, for calming all your nerves. ♥ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,308	DPP in my opinion, to go with the three-lettered theme.

Feb 4th, 2009, 9:01:36 AM	#90
Legacy Raider Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,829 Scotland- GMT+0	Are 'roles' capitalised? Is it a "Sweeper" or a "sweeper", a "Special Wall" or a "special wall"? A "Phazer" or a "phazer"? Also, "Entry Hazards" or "entry hazards"? __________________ Warstories: UU Deathmatch (A) \| Raining on the Parade \| The Great War Breaching the Fortress (A) \| UU - Dodging Bullets (A) \| Mushroom Warfare (OU Warstory) (A)

Feb 4th, 2009, 9:23:05 AM	#91
Blue Kirby Keep your hands off my stack. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,813	Don't capitalize them. :) __________________

Feb 10th, 2009, 8:33:15 PM	#92
diinbong ****************** Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 953	I was wondering if the correct Spelling is ResTalk or Resttalk or RestTalk or doesn't matter thank you

Feb 10th, 2009, 8:36:44 PM	#93
darkie coolcoolcool Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,351 Plano, TX	I personally try not to use that abbreviation in my analyses. Regardless, I think the third is the best of those (RestTalk). __________________

Feb 15th, 2009, 11:21:43 AM	#94
X-Trader Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,991	Regarding any Pokemon who ends with an 's': Do we use an apostrophe then another 's' or just an apostrophe? Or can we use either with stipulations? Ex: Latias's would be referring to the Latias that is in question while Latias' would be for all Latias.

Feb 15th, 2009, 3:25:29 PM	#96
darkie coolcoolcool Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,351 Plano, TX	I asked English major Jumpman about this a couple months ago. He told me that for words that end with s, you can use ' or 's for singular nouns (Latias' or Latias's, princess' or princess's). The ' ending is only necessary when plural (Latias', princesses'). __________________

Feb 15th, 2009, 5:29:51 PM	#97
X-Trader Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,991	Thank you darkie.

Feb 15th, 2009, 8:53:20 PM	#98
*jumpluff just came to say hello Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,376 Location: Australia Mentor	Personally I would suggest using Latias's for singular; it distinguishes it from Latias'. ~_~ __________________

Feb 15th, 2009, 8:56:12 PM	#99
darkie coolcoolcool Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,351 Plano, TX	I do agree. __________________

Mar 3rd, 2009, 7:51:39 AM	#100
diinbong ****************** Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 953	Is it SuperPower, or Superpower? I don't have a game so I can't check, but I'm fairly sure it's Superpower since that's what I keep getting on the internet. EDIT: Okay, it's Superpower. Might want to add that because I saw some misspelling it. thanks