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Old Dec 1st, 2012, 11:54:14 PM   #51
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Here's one that will annoy everything ever.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 128 SAtk / 128 SDef / 128 Spd / 116 HP
Modest Nature
- Softboiled
- Minimize
- Charge Beam
- Ice Beam

Sorry if the EVs look really weird, but I'm still working them out. This guy is a monster though. Minimize/Softboiled is just evil. Pair it with Serene Grace giving 100% SpA boost, with BoltBeam coverage (Ice Beam gets 20% Freeze chance also) and this guy is like a slow, painful death to all.
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 9:24:19 AM   #52
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Did anyone of you know how Last Resort works?
You need to use every other move the user know at least once and succesfully, then you can use Last Resort.

In the last Wi-Fi tournament I was sweeped by a Snorlax in Trick Room, the thing is this Snorlax only knowed TWO moves: Curse and Last Resort. He used curse once and then was just sweep all the way.

It may be something like this:
Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Brave nature
- Curse
- Last Resort

(no need to mention that my opponent was a japanese, those guys really know to tailor succesfull stange sets)

edit: @Baz Anderson: My team was a Rain team with Kingdra as a sweeper, and yes i use a Scizor, but by the time I took out Snorlax was already too late.
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 2:17:35 PM   #53
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You had no Steel/Rock/Ghost types?
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 6:22:44 PM   #54
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Not really sure about creative but I have swept with this set.
Jellicent @ Choice Scarf
Timid 252 Spd/SpAtk 4 Def
-Water Spout
-Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
This set is insane and under the rain, not much can survive 3 turns under Water Spout. Giga Drain to take care of Gastrodon and others that thing they can take Jellicent on. The rest is self-explanatory but trust me, this set is amazing.
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 7:50:41 AM   #55
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The other day I saw (watching random battles) this Butterfree that really surprised me, the set can be incredibly broken if you don't pack some specific counters.

Butterfree @ Leftovers
Timid 252 spe / 252 spa /4 something (I guess)
Sleep Powder
Quiver Dance
Whirlwind
Bug Buzz

Just bring it in against something slower, sleep it, quiver dance, whirlwind, repeat, since the sleep counter resets on the forced switch, there's nothing the oponnent can do to stop it from reaching +6. There's a good amount of things that can counter it, but it's pretty legit set against a shit ton of things.
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 10:32:44 PM   #56
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The other day I saw (watching random battles) this Butterfree that really surprised me, the set can be incredibly broken if you don't pack some specific counters.

Butterfree @ Leftovers
Timid 252 spe / 252 spa /4 something (I guess)
Sleep Powder
Quiver Dance
Whirlwind
Bug Buzz

Just bring it in against something slower, sleep it, quiver dance, whirlwind, repeat, since the sleep counter resets on the forced switch, there's nothing the oponnent can do to stop it from reaching +6. There's a good amount of things that can counter it, but it's pretty legit set against a shit ton of things.
relying in sleep powder... broken if it works, but it has a good chance to fail.
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Old Feb 21st, 2013, 1:47:23 PM   #57
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I use this with great success even on pokemon showdown surprises people


Scizor @ Expert Belt
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Bug Bite
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Brick Breake

also i run a physical typlosion , it puts a stop to most water that switch in excepting a special attack politoed gets destroyed by wildcharge only Milotic (2KO with choice band and Vaporeon same thing can take it and try to wall it ) and pokemon like Volcarona or Chandelure are put a stop even Heatran and Jirachi cant survive the EQ, unless running physical defensive sets

Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf Or Banded depends on if i decided to bring scarf hydreigon
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Wild Charge
- Flare Blitz

It Also has acess to Howl to setup but requires a free switch and using leftovers
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Old Feb 21st, 2013, 1:56:21 PM   #58
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relying in sleep powder... broken if it works, but it has a good chance to fail.
Sleep Powder has a 97% chance to hit with Compoundeyes factored in.
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Old Apr 9th, 2013, 3:34:02 PM   #59
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Something I thought was a gimmick, but tested it, and it works really well... but only in Triples...

"Curse" Golbat
Item: Eviolite
Nature: Brave
Ability: Inner Focus
IVs: 0 Speed
EVs: 252 Atk/252 SpDef/4 Def
Moveset:
-Curse
-Super Fang
-Aerial Ace/Brave Bird
-Protect/Roost

Obviously used on a Trick Room team. Set up on turn one. Trick Room lead (I usually use Jellicent), Follow Me/Rage Powder (center lead), and Golbat.

Curse+Eviolite give it surpising bulk, Curse helps this even more, and due to Curse, and the minus speed nature, Golbat becomes surpisingly slow, underspeeding minus Speed natured Tyranitar, and minus Speed natured Jellicent.

Aerial Ace, since it can hit non-adjacent Pokemon. Brave Bird can also be used if you don't mind the recoil damage, and will hit much harder, and also hit non-adjacent Pokemon.

Super Fang allows you to wall break verus Rock and Steel types.

Last moveslot is up to preference, both work, but in Triples, Protect is usually the better option, but to heal off the recoil damage from Brave Bird, Roost can also be an option. Golbat really doesn't have any other attacking options that are viable on this set unless you really fear Rock/Ice types. However, Steel Wing could have potential, but I wouldn't advise it. Super Fang already allows you to wall break for the rest of the team.
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Old Apr 9th, 2013, 4:01:27 PM   #60
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Brave Bird and Curse are legal together...
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Old Apr 9th, 2013, 4:33:03 PM   #61
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Brave Bird and Curse are legal together...
This claims otherwise.

What's the legal breeding chain?

*EDIT* Nevermind. Found it. Farfetch't or Skarmoy.

WaittingForSeedot didn't find it for me.

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Old Apr 9th, 2013, 6:09:15 PM   #62
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Farfetch'd only. And WaitingForSeedot is only Gen 4, unless it was changed recently.
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Old Apr 9th, 2013, 10:16:10 PM   #63
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here's what i'm using on my current gbu team to check rain:


@ Fighting Gem
Careful Nature
94 HP / 212 Atk / 204 Spe

Protect
Sunny Day
Leaf Blade
Close Combat

EVs and nature ensure virizion can live a helping hand boosted life orb draco meteor from kingdra (and consequently, every other draco meteor) and still outspeed neutral base 100's like salamence. close combat can one-shot chople tyranitar, the afore mentioned kingdra assuming minimal defense investment, and some scizor (the one that outspeeds metagross) with fighting gem, and leaf blade rounds out the coverage. sunny day is key though, since i can kill the politoed without much resistance because i don't carry an auto weather of my own and soften hydro pumps that would've KO'd. outside of rain, it causes blizzards to miss, excadrills to slow down, and my heat waves obviously do more damage. virizion makes a great anti rain mon and can still bring the hurt so i reccomend trying it out if you have rain troubles. :)
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here's what i'm using on my current gbu team to check rain:


@ Fighting Gem
Careful Nature
94 HP / 212 Atk / 204 Spe

Protect
Sunny Day
Leaf Blade
Close Combat

EVs and nature ensure virizion can live a helping hand boosted life orb draco meteor from kingdra (and consequently, every other draco meteor) and still outspeed neutral base 100's like salamence. close combat can one-shot chople tyranitar, the afore mentioned kingdra assuming minimal defense investment, and some scizor (the one that outspeeds metagross) with fighting gem, and leaf blade rounds out the coverage. sunny day is key though, since i can kill the politoed without much resistance because i don't carry an auto weather of my own and soften hydro pumps that would've KO'd. outside of rain, it causes blizzards to miss, excadrills to slow down, and my heat waves obviously do more damage. virizion makes a great anti rain mon and can still bring the hurt so i reccomend trying it out if you have rain troubles. :)
VIRIZIONNNNNNNNN <3

another cool EV Spread is 116 HP / 220 Atk / 132 Def / 4 SDef / 36 Speed Adamant

Also, I usually go with Leaf Blade / Sacred Sword / Quick Attack / Protect to pick off Sash mons and that it was originally used on a Sand team to counter Rain.

here's some calcs:
Survives:
252+ SpA Cresselia Psyshock vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Virizion: 116-138 (64.08 - 76.24%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Cresselia Ice Beam vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 68-80 (37.56 - 44.19%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Tyranitar Fire Punch vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Virizion: 106-126 (58.56 - 69.61%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Virizion: 106-126 (58.56 - 69.61%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (Zen Headbutt has a 68.75% chance to OHKO)
252 Atk Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Virizion: 76-90 (41.98 - 49.72%) -- guaranteed 3HKO (Adamant: 252+ Atk Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Virizion: 84-99 (46.4 - 54.69%) -- 57.03% chance to 2HKO)
252+ Atk Technician Scizor Bug Bite vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Virizion: 93-111 (51.38 - 61.32%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Fighting Gem Hitmontop Close Combat vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Virizion: 150-177 (82.87 - 97.79%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Latios Psyshock vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Virizion: 152-180 (83.97 - 99.44%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Dragon Gem Latios Draco Meteor vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 144-171 (79.55 - 94.47%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Thundurus Hidden Power Ice vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 83-99 (45.85 - 54.69%) -- 47.66% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Thundurus-T Hidden Power Ice vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 91-109 (50.27 - 60.22%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Fire Blast vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 153-182 (84.53 - 100.55%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Dragon Gem Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 141-166 (77.9 - 91.71%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Heatran Heat Wave vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 152-180 (83.97 - 99.44%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (Single Target!!)
252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 144-170 (79.55 - 93.92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (Single Target!)
252 SpA Life Orb Zapdos Heat Wave vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 117-138 (64.64 - 76.24%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (Single Target!)
252+ SpA Life Orb Chandelure Heat Wave vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 159-190 (87.84 - 104.97%) -- 31.25% chance to OHKO (double target)
252+ SpA Volcarona Heat Wave vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 116-138 (64.08 - 76.24%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 70-84 (38.67 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 252+ SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 116 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 139-165 (76.79 - 91.16%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Kills:
220+ Atk Virizion Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Tyranitar: 232-280 (112.07 - 135.26%) -- guaranteed OHKO
220+ Atk Grass Gem Virizion Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rindo Berry Gastrodon: 174-206 (79.81 - 94.49%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (not many run 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Rindo)
220+ Atk Grass Gem Virizion Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Politoed: 240-284 (121.82 - 144.16%) -- guaranteed OHKO
220+ Atk Grass Gem Virizion Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Rotom-W: 182-216 (115.92 - 137.57%) -- guaranteed OHKO
220+ Atk Virizion Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Hydreigon: 138-164 (69.34 - 82.41%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
220+ Atk Virizion Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Abomasnow: 162-192 (82.23 - 97.46%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
20+ Atk Grass Gem Virizion Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Rotom-W: 182-216 (115.92 - 137.57%) -- guaranteed OHKO
220+ Atk Grass Gem Virizion Leaf Blade vs. 4 HP / 4 Def Terrakion: 206-246 (123.35 - 147.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
220+ Atk Grass Gem Virizion Leaf Blade vs. 4 HP / 4 Def Kingdra: 100-118 (66.22 - 78.14%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
220+ Atk Virizion Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Chople Berry Ferrothorn: 39-46 (21.54 - 25.41%) -- possible 4HKO
220+ Atk Virizion Sacred Sword vs. 4 HP / 4 Def Excadrill: 188-224 (101.07 - 120.43%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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