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Old Jul 5th, 2011, 10:23:46 AM   #26
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Guess what I found? http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Move_variations
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Old Jul 5th, 2011, 11:28:34 AM   #27
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As agreed with Lady Salamence I'll do the Choice Items really quickly before getting back to the rest of the abilities.

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Old Jul 5th, 2011, 1:45:23 PM   #28
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Zy, I think you should make it clear that if you use trick in gen 5, and recieve another choice item, you are not locked into trick. Not sure whether this means that you are not locked in if you are the one recieving the trick, but this is regardless an important mechanic change that you might want to explain.
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Old Jul 5th, 2011, 4:22:52 PM   #29
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I would like to try writing up the first 5 B attacks (Barrage through Belly Drum).

Edit: I finished off Barrage so I'll leave it here in case there's anything I've done incorrectly.

Barrage


Edit: Barrier and Baton Pass are finished. I'm not sure if I exactly did Baton Pass justice in a single paragraph describing its usefulness. I examined the research thread and the only notice of Baton Pass was the fact trapping moves can no longer be passed, so I simply added in all of the moves featured on Baton Pass's fourth gen move analysis sans the trapping move.

Barrier


Baton Pass


Edit #2: Beat Up and Belly Drum are completed. Forgive any mistakes in grammar or spelling I've overlooked!

Beat Up


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I'd also like to try my hand at Attract through Avalanche if that's okay as well.

Edit: Cookies are done.

Attract

Aura Sphere

Aurora Beam

Autotomize

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Old Jul 6th, 2011, 4:50:35 PM   #30
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Reserving Exp. Share and Lucky Egg, since they're both closely related.

e: Done! Here they are.
Exp. Share

Lucky Egg


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Hydreigon in particular with its base 147 Special Attack
Um...

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Old Jul 6th, 2011, 6:46:53 PM   #31
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Thanks for that, Louis. Fsr I always think hydreigon is base 147.... What am I thinking of?
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Old Jul 6th, 2011, 10:03:23 PM   #32
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No problem(?)

I think I'll take Leftovers, Lum Berry, and Life Orb since they haven't been taken for some reason.


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Old Jul 8th, 2011, 5:30:39 PM   #33
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Bite

Blast Burn

Blaze Kick

Blizzard


Edit: thanks LouisCyphre for that correction regarding hurricane.

Here are a few more.
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Old Jul 8th, 2011, 6:24:16 PM   #34
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Blizzard should mention relation to Hurricane, not Gale.

I might do some more of these; ASB and offline things ate my time for a bit.

e: oh hey bcb addressed me.

No problem; I don't particularly mind losing the analysis sections on the training items, since it saves me the trouble of doing those if and when I get to the Power items.
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Old Jul 14th, 2011, 11:24:39 AM   #35
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I'm going to have to unreserve whatever i reserved. Sorry.
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Old Jul 16th, 2011, 11:44:49 PM   #36
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Doing all the 150 BP recharge turn moves, Bullshit moves for the win !

Hydro Cannon


Hyper Beam


Roar of Time


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Old Jul 17th, 2011, 12:43:54 AM   #37
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Giga Impact and Hyperbeam are equal 3rd strongest normal-type attack. Self Destruct and Explosion are 2nd and 1st, respectively. And they are stronger physical attacks.
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Old Jul 17th, 2011, 6:20:48 AM   #38
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Block

Blue Flare

Body Slam

Bolt Strike

Bone Club

Bone Rush

Bonemerang


Bounce

Brave Bird

Brick Break

Brine

Bubble

Bubblebeam

Bug Bite


Bug Buzz

Bulk Up

Bulldoze

Bullet Punch

Bullet Seed

Calm Mind

Camouflage


I'm completely clueless when it comes to this html business, so someone may want to check I did the list right for Camouflage.

Captivate

Charge

Charge Beam

Charm

Chatter

BMB I think you are going to need to split your posts a bit more lol.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2011, 11:55:17 AM   #39
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I'd like to reserve Chip Away to Close Combat, please!
Chip Away
Circle Throw
Clamp
Clear Smog
Close Combat


If anything has to be changed, please let me know!
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Old Jul 24th, 2011, 10:39:08 PM   #40
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Hey bmb, so I was working on uploading the HGSS items to the DP item list, and I noticed that some of the items had a <h2>Description</h2> tag and some didn't. So me and few of the mods were talking irc, and we decided that that looked better than leaving it blank. We also decided that instead of calling it Overview, we'd call it Competitive Use. So basically for Items the list should look like

[SHORT DESC]

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<h2>Competitive Use</h2>

Sorry for any inconvenience bmb, but we felt this looked better. I'm going to be going through all the items to make sure they use this format, so anybody who has a badge can help me in this endeavor.
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Old Jul 25th, 2011, 1:05:39 PM   #41
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Old Jul 26th, 2011, 10:16:50 PM   #42
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So, considering Lady Salamence unreserved her entry I would like to take the rest of HM's and do it myself.
This are their descriptions as a move, the description of the actual item can ( will) be done later probably on my next post.

Since bmb let me I decided to make a few nitpicks and expand some of her previous descriptions and some formatting, general lines her ideas are still there.
If someone don't agree with them or have any doubt you can look her original entry, anyhow, I'll credit her for doing the first four like a co-author: post

Cut
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Fly
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Surf is already done.

Strength
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From now on, my descriptions will start from the scratch.
Waterfall


Dive


Everything is done.

Edit 1: Reserving Coil, Comet Punch, Confuse Ray, Confusion.
Coil


Comet Punch


Confuse Ray


Confusion

Done again.

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Old Jul 29th, 2011, 10:58:23 AM   #43
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Chlorophyll


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I did those, I tried to proofread but some mistakes may have passed so please check and I will correct if necessary.

Constrict


Conversion


Conversion2

Copycat

Cosmic Power

Cotton Guard

Cotton Spore

Counter

Covet

Crabhammer

Cross Chop

Cross Poison

Crunch

Crush Claw

Crush Grip

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Dark Pulse, Dark Void, Defend Order, Defense Curl, Defog, Destiny Bond, Detect,Dig, Disable, Discharge, Dizzy Punch, Doom Desire, Double Hit, Double Kick, Double Team, Double-Edge, DoubleSlap.

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A small nitpick, in gen 5, Crabhammer's accuracy was changed to 90%.
With a high crit rate, it's a better aqua tail, although only smeargle gets access to both (and really shouldn't run either). Still, Crawdaunt and Kingler prefer waterfall since they like to raise their speed and enjoy the flinch rate, and cannot afford to miss.
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Old Aug 13th, 2011, 1:22:45 PM   #46
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OK this thing is finally up to date

Thanks to Oglemi for splitting the posts and thus allowing me to edit the OP

If you're wondering where your posts have gone, they have been swallowed by the OP for the greater good

Also please try to spellcheck your work, or at least C+P the thing into MS Word and press the spell checker button, it can't be that hard.

To all those contributing, many thanks, all efforts are appreciated.
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Old Aug 24th, 2011, 10:00:06 AM   #47
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Before we start; bmb, on the Brave Bird related move’s part, it’s saying that Brave Bird is an equivalent move of itself. ;)

Dark Pulse



Dark Void



Defend Order



Defense Curl



Defog



Destiny Bond



Detect



Dig



Disable



Discharge



Dizzy Punch



Doom Desire



Double Hit




Double Kick



Double Team



Double-Edge



DoubleSlap

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Quick nitpick. On the Double Team description is has Minimize as an equivalent. As of Gen V, Minimize raises Evasion by two stages instead of one, but has much poorer distribution.
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Old Aug 28th, 2011, 2:39:29 AM   #49
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Hi the dex it up and we could really use help with this!!
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Old Aug 28th, 2011, 4:03:21 AM   #50
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Done enough for now for Reckless. feel free to check


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