Go Back   Smogon Community > Socialization in the Empire > ASB
Register FAQ Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Closed Thread
Categories: Ongoing, Data, Tournament, Completed, Gym, Roleplay
 
Thread Tools
Old Jul 18th, 2011, 1:40:18 PM   #26
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

...Shouldn't Bahamut have 49 HP due to Dig damage?

Anyways, go, Frigid and Flight!
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Jul 19th, 2011, 4:03:11 PM   #27
Arcanite
 
Arcanite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,252
Default

Edge, begin by Taunting Flight, then, leech seed Frigid, then Flight. If you get taunted, replace all actions after being taunted to Leaf Tornado Flight.

Bahamut, Dragon Pulse, Fire Blast, Dragon Pulse, all on Flight.
__________________
ASB Team
Arcanite is offline  
Old Jul 19th, 2011, 5:33:03 PM   #28
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

"Flight-Taunt Snivy to bait Leaf Tornado, make a 20 HP Substitute, and Toxic Snivy! (95% accuracy due to +speed)
Frigid-Disable Snivy's Leaf Tornado, use Icy Wind to slow them down (102% accuracy due to +speed), then Blizzard! (77% accuracy)"
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |

Last edited by Tortferngatr; Jul 19th, 2011 at 6:23:28 PM.
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Jul 21st, 2011, 3:10:18 PM   #29
little gk
[23:23] <&Bedkal> I will quit everything I do on smogon
is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnus
 
little gk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,497
Default

|
Frigid | Flight
HP: 90 | 90
Energy: 100 | 100
Boosts/Drops:
Others:
Actions: Disable (Leaf Tornado) - IcyWind (Both) - Blizzard (Both) | Taunt (Edge) - Substitute (20 HP) - Toxic (Edge)
|
Bahamut | Edge
HP: 49 | 100
Energy: 66 |94
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Reflect 5 more actions, Light Screen 6 more actions
Actions: Dragon Pulse (Scratchet) - Fire Blast (Scratchet) - Dragon Pulse (Scratchet) | Leaf Tornado (Scratchet) - Leaf Tornado (Scratchet) - Leaf Tornado (Scratchet)

...


|
Frigid | Flight
HP: 90 | 48
Energy: 84 | 66
Boosts/Drops:
Others:
Actions:
|
Bahamut | Edge
HP: 34 | 83
Energy: 46 | 70
Boosts/Drops: -1 Speed (both mons)
Others: Reflect 2 more actions, Light Screen 3 more actions, Edge taunted/Leaf Tornado disabled 4 more actions
Actions:
__________________


Last edited by little gk; Jul 25th, 2011 at 3:47:49 PM.
little gk is offline  
Old Jul 22nd, 2011, 12:54:03 AM   #30
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

Alright-let's focus on beating Dragonair.

"Flight-Roost, Toxic Snivy, then Taunt Dragonair!
Frigid-Combine Icy Wind and Blizzard, then use a normal Blizzard!
If Dragonair uses Protect turn 1, use Blizzard turn 1 and the combo turn 2!"
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Jul 22nd, 2011, 9:16:24 AM   #31
Arcanite
 
Arcanite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,252
Default

Bahamut, use thunder wave on Frigid, then hit it with a couple of Fire Blasts!

Snivy, Slam Frigidx3!
__________________
ASB Team
Arcanite is offline  
Old Jul 25th, 2011, 3:33:58 PM   #32
little gk
[23:23] <&Bedkal> I will quit everything I do on smogon
is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnus
 
little gk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,497
Default

|
Frigid | Flight
HP: 90 | 48
Energy: 84 | 66
Boosts/Drops:
Others:
Actions: IcyWind + Blizzard (Both) - Blizzard (Both) | Roost - Toxic (Dragonair) - Taunt (Edge)
|
Bahamut | Edge
HP: 34 | 83
Energy: 46 | 70
Boosts/Drops: -1 Speed (both mons)
Others: Reflect 2 more actions, Light Screen 3 more actions, Edge taunted/Leaf Tornado disabled 4 more actions
Actions: Thunder Wave (Frigid) - Fire Blast (Frigid) - Fire Blast (Frigid) | Slam (Frigid) three times etc

...


|
Frigid | Flight
HP: 43 | 68
Energy: 58 | 39
Boosts/Drops:
Others:
Actions: Frigid 20% Paralyzed
|
Bahamut | Edge
HP: 7 | 51
Energy: 19 | 43
Boosts/Drops: -1 Speed (both mons)
Others: Edge taunted/Leaf Tornado disabled 1 more action, Edge Badly Poisoned, both mons -1 Speed, Dragonair Taunted 5 more actions
Actions:

Different Attacks:
Base Attack Power = 6 + 12 + 3(stab) = 21*.75= 15.75
Energy Cost = (5 + 8) * 1.5 = 19.5 ~ 20

of course if the calc is wrong, i wouldn't exactly be surprised :X

yeah, the paralysis thing is just a habit, nbd
__________________


Last edited by little gk; Jul 25th, 2011 at 3:48:06 PM.
little gk is offline  
Old Jul 25th, 2011, 5:36:49 PM   #33
Arcanite
 
Arcanite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,252
Default

Bahamut, go for a Fire Blast, then a Dragon Pulse, then another Fire Blast on Snorunt.

Edge, you need to Slam for one more action, then you can taunt Flight, and finish off with a leaf tornado on Snorunt.

Both of you, if Snorunt faints, target Scratchet instead!

Whenever an opponent uses protect, attack the other opponent. If both use protect, chill.
__________________
ASB Team
Arcanite is offline  
Old Jul 25th, 2011, 6:29:43 PM   #34
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

Frigid: Protect, then unleash another Blizzard+Icy Wind combo! If you're paralyzed turn 2, simply use Blizzard turn 3.
Flight: Fury Swipes Dragonair, then Taunt Snivy, then Chill.
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |

Last edited by Tortferngatr; Jul 26th, 2011 at 7:27:01 PM. Reason: Whoops...
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Jul 26th, 2011, 4:37:16 AM   #35
Arcanite
 
Arcanite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,252
Default

^Who's Fault? I thought I killed him?
__________________
ASB Team
Arcanite is offline  
Old Jul 27th, 2011, 7:57:19 PM   #36
little gk
[23:23] <&Bedkal> I will quit everything I do on smogon
is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnus
 
little gk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,497
Default

Sorry about the wait, i assumed arcanite's post had actions :l


|
Frigid | Flight
HP: 43 | 68
Energy: 58 | 39
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Frigid 20% Paralyzed
Actions: Protect - IcyWind + Blizzard (Both) | Fury Swipes (Dragonair) - Taunt (Snivy) - chill out brah
|
Bahamut | Edge
HP: 7 | 51
Energy: 19 | 43
Boosts/Drops: -1 Speed (both mons)
Others: Edge taunted/Leaf Tornado disabled 1 more action, Edge Badly Poisoned, both mons -1 Speed, Dragonair Taunted 5 more actions
Actions: Fire Blast | Slam (Scratchet) - Taunt - Leaf Tornado (Snorunt)

...


|
Frigid | Flight
HP: 34 | 47
Energy: 33 | 38
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Frigid 15% Paralyzed
Actions:
|
Bahamut | Edge
HP: KO | 11
Energy: KO | 12
Boosts/Drops: -1 Speed (both mons)
Others: Edge taunted 4 more actions, Edge Badly Poisoned
Actions:

frigid has been lucky with paralysis and i took off the multi target deduction since it was only edge alive ;/

arcanite sends out cloud strike
__________________


Last edited by little gk; Jul 27th, 2011 at 8:09:01 PM.
little gk is offline  
Old Jul 27th, 2011, 9:44:55 PM   #37
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

"Alright-let's keep up this streak.

"Frigid: Icy Wind, Icy Wind, then Blizzard!
Fault: Taunt Duclohm, then Toxic him, then Yawn at him!

If Snivy isn't KO'd action 3, use Rock Smash on Snivy instead!"
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Jul 28th, 2011, 4:12:52 AM   #38
Arcanite
 
Arcanite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,252
Default

Duclohm, wait for Snivy to move, then go for a double discharge combo! Then finish off with a flamethrower on frigid! If Frigid has fainted, use ice beam on Scratchet.

Snivy, you should last one action so go for a Magical Leaf Tornado on Scratchet! (Leaf Tornado + Magical Leaf Combo) if by some minor miracle you are still alive, go for a Mega Drain on Scratchet.

Sorry GK, but i have to use the combos...

I know that you aren't allowed to wait for your opponents to move, but why not your allies?

Tort, hopefully, your other pokes might get some counters, and I might get some more KO counters, so it's a win win situation!
__________________
ASB Team

Last edited by Arcanite; Jul 30th, 2011 at 3:59:59 AM.
Arcanite is offline  
Old Jul 30th, 2011, 8:37:11 PM   #39
little gk
[23:23] <&Bedkal> I will quit everything I do on smogon
is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnus
 
little gk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,497
Default

|
Frigid | Flight
HP: 34 | 47
Energy: 33 | 38
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Frigid 15% Paralyzed
Actions: Icy Wind x2 - Blizzard | Taunt - Toxic - Yawn all on Duclohm
|
Cloud Strife | Edge
HP: 100 | 11
Energy: 100 | 12
Boosts/Drops: -1 Speed (both mons)
Others: Edge taunted 4 more actions, Edge Badly Poisoned
Actions: Discharge+Discharge - nop - Flamethrower (Frigid) | Leaf Tornado + Magical Leaf - nop - Mega Drain (Scratchet)


...


|
Frigid | Flight
HP: KO | 20
Energy: 23 | 14
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Frigid 10% Paralyzed
Actions: Icy Wind x2 - Blizzard | Taunt - Toxic - Yawn all on Duclohm
|
Cloud Strife | Edge
HP: 78 | KO
Energy: 62 | KO
Boosts/Drops: -1 Speed (both mons)
Others: Edge taunted 4 more actions, Edge Badly Poisoned, Duohm Badly Poisoned, Duohm Drowsy, Duohm Taunted 3ish more actions
Actions: Discharge+Discharge - nop - Flamethrower (Frigid) | Leaf Tornado + Magical Leaf - nop - Mega Drain (Scratchet)

I didn't let the waiting thing work because it works on the same logic as waiting for the opponent to move, but it literally didn't matter at all since IcyWind has 0 priority and does 11 damage

Discharge combo: 13.5 BP, 32 Energy, 60% chance for paralysis
Snivy combo: 13 BP, 15 Energy
__________________


Last edited by little gk; Aug 1st, 2011 at 12:35:48 PM.
little gk is offline  
Old Jul 30th, 2011, 9:22:31 PM   #40
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

And before anyone says anything-that's 18 BP*3/4. It's correct.

"Go, Fracture!"



(Arcanine, your turn to order)
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Jul 31st, 2011, 3:50:42 AM   #41
Arcanite
 
Arcanite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,252
Default

Here are the rules for combos of the same attack:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat State of the Game
Same Attack:
Base Attack Power = BAP * 2.25
Energy Cost = (EC + (EC+4))*2
Effect Chance = Effect Chance * 2
Stat Boosts/Drawbacks = Stat Boosts/Drawbacks * 2
Return Damage = Return Damage^2
Recoil = Recoil * 1.5
Accuracy = (Accuracy^2) + Spe Modifier
I make BAP 18, not 13.5.
Everything else is right!

I'll try my hardest to get flash some counters!
__________________
ASB Team
Arcanite is offline  
Old Jul 31st, 2011, 11:22:00 PM   #42
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

18*3/4 (multi-target penalty)=13.5. He did the same thing with my combo. I had the same initial question. Post.
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |

Last edited by Tortferngatr; Aug 1st, 2011 at 12:39:43 AM.
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Aug 1st, 2011, 7:59:58 AM   #43
Arcanite
 
Arcanite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,252
Default

Whoops, My mistake! I'll edit in orders in a mo!

Cloud, let's finish off Scratchet! (This way, everyone gets counters!) Go for a rain dance, then a Hurricane on Scratchet! Then a Hydro Pump on Cranidos! If You are taunted before your action 1, cancel the rain dance, and do actions in their original order, adding a thunderbolt (Cranidos) on the end!
__________________
ASB Team

Last edited by Arcanite; Aug 1st, 2011 at 8:38:42 AM.
Arcanite is offline  
Old Aug 1st, 2011, 11:49:19 AM   #44
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

...Wasn't Duclohm already Taunted? (Also, which I appreciate your offer, I do want to maximize my victory chances, so I will stall out Duclohm a bit.)

"Flight: Make a 15 HP Substitute, then Chill twice!
Fracture: Blizzard, Rock Slide, Blizzard!"
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Aug 3rd, 2011, 5:20:05 PM   #45
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

Bumping for ref-you're past DQ.
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Aug 3rd, 2011, 7:11:51 PM   #46
little gk
[23:23] <&Bedkal> I will quit everything I do on smogon
is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnus
 
little gk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,497
Default

|
Fracture | Flight
HP: 100 | 20
Energy: 100 | 14
Boosts/Drops:
Others:
Actions: Blizzard - Rock Slide - Blizzard | Subsitute (15 HP) - Chill x2

Cloud Strife
HP: 78
Energy: 62
Boosts/Drops: -1 Speed (both mons)
Others: Duohm Badly Poisoned, Duohm Drowsy, Duohm Taunted 3ish more actions
Actions: Hurricane - Hydro Pump (Cranidos) - Thunderbolt (Cranidos)

actions


|
Fracture | Flight
HP: 84 | 5
Energy: 79 | 27
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Flight has a 15 HP Sub
Actions:

Cloud Strife
HP: 22
Energy: 48
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Duohm Badly Poisoned
Actions:
__________________

little gk is offline  
Old Aug 3rd, 2011, 8:07:48 PM   #47
Tortferngatr
 
Tortferngatr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,545
United States of America
Default

Meh. Flight, come back.

Switch=KO, so I might as well. Cloud Strife gets the KOC, obviously.

"Go, Flash!"



"Alright guys-

Flash-use Dragon Rage three times!
Fracture-use Blizzard three times!"

(also, Ice Beam is not legal on Duclohm. It is on Cyclohm, however.)
__________________
Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1

If only the max avatar filesize was 90K...

|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile |
Tortferngatr is offline  
Old Aug 4th, 2011, 5:38:30 AM   #48
Arcanite
 
Arcanite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,252
Default

Go for a double discharge combo! then if by some insane miracle you are still alive, Hydro Pump fracture!
__________________
ASB Team
Arcanite is offline  
Old Aug 6th, 2011, 12:43:30 AM   #49
little gk
[23:23] <&Bedkal> I will quit everything I do on smogon
is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnus
 
little gk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,497
Default

|
Fracture | Flash
HP: 84 | 5
Energy: 79 | 27
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Flight has a 15 HP Sub
Actions:

Cloud Strife
HP: 22
Energy: 48
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Duohm Badly Poisoned
Actions:

one action
one action

|
Fracture | Flash
HP: 84 | 5
Energy: 79 | 27
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Flight has a 15 HP Sub
Actions:

Cloud Strife
HP: KO
Energy: KO
Boosts/Drops:
Others: Duohm Badly Poisoned
Actions:

counters:

all mons get 1 ec/2 mc/1 dc
ko counters go to: Drilbur (3), Snivy, Dragonair, Scratchet, Snorunt, Duohm (2), Cranidos

you both get 4 tc (i think)

i get 12 rc
__________________

little gk is offline  
Old Aug 6th, 2011, 5:14:11 AM   #50
Arcanite
 
Arcanite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,252
Default

Good Game, I just played badly Vs. Drilbur and Snorunt at the beginning. (Exploded too early)

Dragonair and Vanillish should get 3 MC, as they are now FE, and have unlocked DW abilities.
__________________
ASB Team

Last edited by Arcanite; Aug 6th, 2011 at 5:30:53 AM.
Arcanite is offline  
Closed Thread Smogon Community > Socialization in the Empire > ASB

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 4:19:50 AM.