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Gerard · Sep 10th, 2011, 12:49:17 PM

Normal Faint attack = 6.25% chance of Crit. (1/16)
Scope Lens/Super Luck Faint attack = 12.5% chance of Crit. (1/8)
Scope Lens with Super Luck Faint attack = 25% chance of Crit. (1/4)
Scope Lens with Super Luck Hight Crit Move = 50% chance of Crit. (1/2)

Objection · Sep 10th, 2011, 12:54:14 PM

Or you can look here for an accurate summary of crit stages. Just disregard Scope Lens' +1 and replace it with x2 at the end.

Why at the end? Because if the multiplication came first, then Scope Lens would only ever increase crit stage from 1 to 2 (making it just a +1 at all times), and given that Super Luck's description in the data audit thread specifically says it increases crit stage by 1 and Scope Lens' description does not, then Scope Lens must be capable of more than a +1. Either that or Deck hasn't thought it through (probability: unlikely).

Son_of_Shadoo · Sep 12th, 2011, 5:21:46 AM

So here's something that doesn't affect me, but occurred to me.

Take a Pokémon with full EC, full DC, and has learned all its moves (the most obvious one being Ditto.). If it takes part in a match, will it earn any counters at all? And what about any KOC it earns?

Flora · Sep 12th, 2011, 5:28:14 AM

Uhhh, nah, the Pokemon will probably not earn a single thing.

Unless Deck says they (leftover counters) can transmute into more TCs, which would be cool.

@below, never knew that if that's true. I'd have been doing that all along lol...

Lord Jesseus · Sep 12th, 2011, 5:34:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Son_of_Shadoo

So here's something that doesn't affect me, but occurred to me.

Take a Pokémon with full EC, full DC, and has learned all its moves (the most obvious one being Ditto.). If it takes part in a match, will it earn any counters at all? And what about any KOC it earns?

iirc KOC can be use as TC

Dummy007 · Sep 12th, 2011, 7:19:50 PM

Does confusion lower in stage during sleep turns? It doesn't in-game, but it doesn't say that it does in ASB...

rickheg · Sep 12th, 2011, 7:21:56 PM

My rule of thumb for stuff like that is that if the pokemon doesn't get a chance to hit itself, then I don't lower the counter. I do the same when in cooldown from a combo.

Metal Bagon · Sep 18th, 2011, 12:00:39 AM

I know this is going to sound like a stupid and rash question but anyway. How are tournament host's chosen in CAPASB? Just wondering.

EDIT: Yeah, predicted that answer.

Terrador · Sep 18th, 2011, 1:17:42 AM

One of the higher-ups will do future tournaments if/when they happen; don't worry yourself about them.

DarthVader317 · Sep 18th, 2011, 6:03:46 PM

Can you send more pokemon to the ref than is needed for the match to have more options later? Like 4 mons for a 3v3? The only thing I see about it is in the Battle Tower where it says send 3 for a 3v3 or 4 for a 4v4, but it says in the same place to send 3 for a 2v2.

Terrador · Sep 18th, 2011, 6:16:06 PM

Nope. You can send up to 3 Pokemon in any situation, but for 3v3s and larger, you can't send extra mons. This yields to any "Send X mons to the ref" from the challenge poster.

SimonSays · Sep 20th, 2011, 2:02:44 AM

Alright, Torment question.
A Pokemon uses the same action for on whole round (Let's say Magikarp uses Tackle), fainting the Weedle it's facing. A Monohm then uses Torment against said Magikarp, who was going to use the Tackle SPAM again. The first Tackle definately fails, but will the other 2 fail as well?

Flora · Sep 20th, 2011, 4:41:06 AM

I'd say so. Tackle was used the round prior to, so all the Tackles should fail.

Objection · Sep 20th, 2011, 9:44:14 AM

Actually, I think there was something in the data audit thread that suggests that the first Tackle fails with no energy cost and the other two are changed to Struggle. But then does the second Struggle fail?

Dummy007 · Sep 21st, 2011, 5:27:27 PM

On the off-chance I ever attempt this: What would happen if Gastro Acid was used on Shedinja followed by a Pokemon Skill Swapping it? Would Wonder Guard kick in for the Swapping Pokemon after 6 actions, since the Data Audit Thread only says Gastro Acid PREVENTS THE USE of an ability, or would the Swapping Pokemon have no ability?

Objection · Sep 21st, 2011, 5:41:42 PM

Wonder Guard can't be skill swapped. At all.

Flamestrike · Sep 21st, 2011, 7:27:58 PM

Pretty sure Struggle can't fail, it can't be Encored/Disabled/etc since it's not an actual move the Pokemon knows, at least not ingame.

Gerard · Sep 21st, 2011, 11:31:16 PM

Struggle is not really a move, is the action a pokemon doesn when he has no other option (or has no idea of what to do), it's a desperate attack so i would say it's immune to being disabled in any way

shinyskarmory · Sep 29th, 2011, 7:44:58 AM

Do moves like Future Sight and Doom Desire still work even if the user has fainted?

Objection · Sep 29th, 2011, 7:46:49 AM

I think so, given that they still work from the user's stats if the user switches out.

shinyskarmory · Oct 2nd, 2011, 9:47:27 AM

Some people have background sections on their pokemon, just for flavor. Am I allowed to retroactively add this?

Alchemator · Oct 2nd, 2011, 10:11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat shinyskarmory

Some people have background sections on their pokemon, just for flavor. Am I allowed to retroactively add this?

You can do whatever you want flavour-wise.

Metal Bagon · Oct 2nd, 2011, 1:38:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat shinyskarmory

Some people have background sections on their pokemon, just for flavor. Am I allowed to retroactively add this?

More people need to do that. They really do.

rickheg · Oct 2nd, 2011, 3:13:01 PM

Since I'm not sure if it belongs in the GL sing up thread, I figured this would be the next best place to ask. There has been mention of a "Round 2" for GL sign-ups. I'm wondering if there's any sort of guideline as to when. I ask because I only recently considered trying to become a Leader, and I'm curious if there's even enough time to raise that many pokemon (I only have 1 of that type thus far) before the next round.

Terrador · Oct 2nd, 2011, 5:08:25 PM

In all honesty, you won't. Assuming (just a shot in the dark here) that Round 2 will be around a month and a half, two months from now, you'd have to ref about as much as Flora to even stand a chance.

Sep 10th, 2011, 12:54:14 PM	#277
Objection Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,096	Or you can look here for an accurate summary of crit stages. Just disregard Scope Lens' +1 and replace it with x2 at the end. Why at the end? Because if the multiplication came first, then Scope Lens would only ever increase crit stage from 1 to 2 (making it just a +1 at all times), and given that Super Luck's description in the data audit thread specifically says it increases crit stage by 1 and Scope Lens' description does not, then Scope Lens must be capable of more than a +1. Either that or Deck hasn't thought it through (probability: unlikely). __________________ <dogfish44> I got a suprise KFC ^.^ <Glacier> kinky fat chick? ASB profile, ASB pokemon, arena collection, unwritten ASB rulings (collected by Dogfish44), in-game effect order, and new CAP sprites

Sep 12th, 2011, 5:21:46 AM	#278
Son_of_Shadoo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,850 Northern Ireland	So here's something that doesn't affect me, but occurred to me. Take a Pokémon with full EC, full DC, and has learned all its moves (the most obvious one being Ditto.). If it takes part in a match, will it earn any counters at all? And what about any KOC it earns? __________________ CAP ASB Team ASB Referee Profile My Soundcloud 23:53 SevenDeadlySins i hereby appoint MK_Ultra fagmaster general of asb 23:53 MK_Ultra that post comes with ops right 23:53 SevenDeadlySins bops

Sep 12th, 2011, 7:19:50 PM	#281
Dummy007 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,222 It's Hammer Time!	Does confusion lower in stage during sleep turns? It doesn't in-game, but it doesn't say that it does in ASB... __________________ ASB Team ...and as soon as I get back, my computer dies. I will have really limited computer access for an undefined period of time, so please bear with me. <18:06> *** SoS is now known as AwesomeSoS <21:49> Dummy007: TL, read the channel title <21:49 TalkingLion: im a talking lion not a reading lion i cant

Sep 12th, 2011, 7:21:56 PM	#282
rickheg Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,919 the lesser of two evils	My rule of thumb for stuff like that is that if the pokemon doesn't get a chance to hit itself, then I don't lower the counter. I do the same when in cooldown from a combo. __________________ My ASB Team! If I forget an obligation in a match/facility, just PM/VM me. Most of my posts are from my phone, and I lose track of where its my turn. <Lou> yo mamma so fat she gets ohko'd by low kick through a 4x resist

Sep 18th, 2011, 12:00:39 AM	#283
Metal Bagon Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,668	I know this is going to sound like a stupid and rash question but anyway. How are tournament host's chosen in CAPASB? Just wondering. EDIT: Yeah, predicted that answer. Last edited by Metal Bagon; Sep 18th, 2011 at 1:19:53 AM.

Sep 10th, 2011, 12:49:17 PM	#276
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,999 Mmm... Ice Cream!	Normal Faint attack = 6.25% chance of Crit. (1/16) Scope Lens/Super Luck Faint attack = 12.5% chance of Crit. (1/8) Scope Lens with Super Luck Faint attack = 25% chance of Crit. (1/4) Scope Lens with Super Luck Hight Crit Move = 50% chance of Crit. (1/2)

Sep 12th, 2011, 5:28:14 AM	#279
Flora floofy Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,779 Location: Santa Clara, CA	Uhhh, nah, the Pokemon will probably not earn a single thing. Unless Deck says they (leftover counters) can transmute into more TCs, which would be cool. @below, never knew that if that's true. I'd have been doing that all along lol...

Sep 18th, 2011, 1:17:42 AM	#284
Terrador Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,008 One final hurrah before I depart.	One of the higher-ups will do future tournaments if/when they happen; don't worry yourself about them.

Sep 18th, 2011, 6:03:46 PM	#285
DarthVader317 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 525 United States of America	Can you send more pokemon to the ref than is needed for the match to have more options later? Like 4 mons for a 3v3? The only thing I see about it is in the Battle Tower where it says send 3 for a 3v3 or 4 for a 4v4, but it says in the same place to send 3 for a 2v2. __________________ ASB profile

Sep 18th, 2011, 6:16:06 PM	#286
Terrador Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,008 One final hurrah before I depart.	Nope. You can send up to 3 Pokemon in any situation, but for 3v3s and larger, you can't send extra mons. This yields to any "Send X mons to the ref" from the challenge poster.

Sep 20th, 2011, 2:02:44 AM	#287
SimonSays Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,622 Auckland, New Zealand	Alright, Torment question. A Pokemon uses the same action for on whole round (Let's say Magikarp uses Tackle), fainting the Weedle it's facing. A Monohm then uses Torment against said Magikarp, who was going to use the Tackle SPAM again. The first Tackle definately fails, but will the other 2 fail as well? __________________ My Tale is a Long One... I say we take all the Justin Beibers and Jersey Shore, and shoot them at the Moon with a Moon Cannon. They don't have to make it to the Moon, though. CAP ASB. The Nerds of the Nerd Community.

Sep 20th, 2011, 4:41:06 AM	#288
Flora floofy Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,779 Location: Santa Clara, CA	I'd say so. Tackle was used the round prior to, so all the Tackles should fail.

Sep 20th, 2011, 9:44:14 AM	#289
Objection Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,096	Actually, I think there was something in the data audit thread that suggests that the first Tackle fails with no energy cost and the other two are changed to Struggle. But then does the second Struggle fail? __________________ <dogfish44> I got a suprise KFC ^.^ <Glacier> kinky fat chick? ASB profile, ASB pokemon, arena collection, unwritten ASB rulings (collected by Dogfish44), in-game effect order, and new CAP sprites

Sep 21st, 2011, 5:27:27 PM	#290
Dummy007 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,222 It's Hammer Time!	On the off-chance I ever attempt this: What would happen if Gastro Acid was used on Shedinja followed by a Pokemon Skill Swapping it? Would Wonder Guard kick in for the Swapping Pokemon after 6 actions, since the Data Audit Thread only says Gastro Acid PREVENTS THE USE of an ability, or would the Swapping Pokemon have no ability? __________________ ASB Team ...and as soon as I get back, my computer dies. I will have really limited computer access for an undefined period of time, so please bear with me. <18:06> *** SoS is now known as AwesomeSoS <21:49> Dummy007: TL, read the channel title <21:49 TalkingLion: im a talking lion not a reading lion i cant

Sep 21st, 2011, 5:41:42 PM	#291
Objection Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,096	Wonder Guard can't be skill swapped. At all. __________________ <dogfish44> I got a suprise KFC ^.^ <Glacier> kinky fat chick? ASB profile, ASB pokemon, arena collection, unwritten ASB rulings (collected by Dogfish44), in-game effect order, and new CAP sprites

Sep 21st, 2011, 7:27:58 PM	#292
Flamestrike Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,582	Pretty sure Struggle can't fail, it can't be Encored/Disabled/etc since it's not an actual move the Pokemon knows, at least not ingame. __________________ Nuzlocke Thread! The latest update for my Diamond challenge is here CAP ASB Team

Sep 21st, 2011, 11:31:16 PM	#293
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,999 Mmm... Ice Cream!	Struggle is not really a move, is the action a pokemon doesn when he has no other option (or has no idea of what to do), it's a desperate attack so i would say it's immune to being disabled in any way

Sep 29th, 2011, 7:44:58 AM	#294
shinyskarmory Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,313 Want a sugar cube?	Do moves like Future Sight and Doom Desire still work even if the user has fainted? __________________ Clothes make the man. Naked people have very little influence on society. Scramble Compendium-Beginner Mafia Game (if you're new, come join!)

Sep 29th, 2011, 7:46:49 AM	#295
Objection Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,096	I think so, given that they still work from the user's stats if the user switches out. __________________ <dogfish44> I got a suprise KFC ^.^ <Glacier> kinky fat chick? ASB profile, ASB pokemon, arena collection, unwritten ASB rulings (collected by Dogfish44), in-game effect order, and new CAP sprites

Oct 2nd, 2011, 9:47:27 AM	#296
shinyskarmory Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,313 Want a sugar cube?	Some people have background sections on their pokemon, just for flavor. Am I allowed to retroactively add this? __________________ Clothes make the man. Naked people have very little influence on society. Scramble Compendium-Beginner Mafia Game (if you're new, come join!)

Oct 2nd, 2011, 3:13:01 PM	#299
rickheg Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,919 the lesser of two evils	Since I'm not sure if it belongs in the GL sing up thread, I figured this would be the next best place to ask. There has been mention of a "Round 2" for GL sign-ups. I'm wondering if there's any sort of guideline as to when. I ask because I only recently considered trying to become a Leader, and I'm curious if there's even enough time to raise that many pokemon (I only have 1 of that type thus far) before the next round. __________________ My ASB Team! If I forget an obligation in a match/facility, just PM/VM me. Most of my posts are from my phone, and I lose track of where its my turn. <Lou> yo mamma so fat she gets ohko'd by low kick through a 4x resist

Oct 2nd, 2011, 5:08:25 PM	#300
Terrador Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,008 One final hurrah before I depart.	In all honesty, you won't. Assuming (just a shot in the dark here) that Round 2 will be around a month and a half, two months from now, you'd have to ref about as much as Flora to even stand a chance.