(Data) Data Audit Thread MkII (Contains All System Data) [BEHOLD THE AUR... UMOTH!] - Page 8

Maxim · Jun 7th, 2012, 11:10:55 AM

Hmm, one minor issue I'm not sure of. The Data Audit Thread and the Referee Resource Thread have differing mechanics for how stats decay.

Referee Resource Thread

Data Audit Thread

So...which set of rules is more up to date?

Flamestrike · Jun 7th, 2012, 1:07:16 PM

Both descriptions are technically right in the general case, but the DAT description is more accurate. In particular, the Ref Thread description becomes inaccurate when referring to triples matches or any match where Pokemon only get two actions a round. So you should probably go with the DAT description.

Pwnemon · Jun 13th, 2012, 7:05:14 AM

Mist Ball: is typoed as Mist Bal:l

also Moonlight restores 15/25/35 instead of the standard 10/20/30

Pwnemon · Jun 14th, 2012, 11:31:37 AM

iron fist says "known attacks effected" - this should be affected

Gerard · Jun 14th, 2012, 11:58:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Pwnemon

also Moonlight restores 15/25/35 instead of the standard 10/20/30

Morning Sun does the same, they're supposed to be that way

Pwnemon · Jun 14th, 2012, 12:00:45 PM

Well then i suggest that synthesis be changed to match morning sun and moonlight, since they do the exact same thing in-game

Objection · Jun 14th, 2012, 1:14:19 PM

Actually, Pwnemon, in ASB, Morning Sun has its healing halved in night-time arenas and Moonlight has its healing halved in daytime arenas, whereas Synthesis' healing is not affected by day and night. That's why Morning Sun and Moonlight heal more.

waterwarrior · Jun 19th, 2012, 5:33:35 PM

Why is the EN cost for Spite 6 EN while similar moves, such as Disable, cost 7 EN?

EspyOwner · Jun 19th, 2012, 6:18:23 PM

Why are you associating Disable with Spite? :|

Spite raises EN cost, Disable prevents the use of the move completely.

Dummy007 · Jun 21st, 2012, 11:14:33 AM

In Mean Look's description, "Hypnosis" is misspelled as "Hynosis."

**Elevator Music** · Jun 21st, 2012, 1:20:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ragnarokalex

Horn Leech: The Pokemon surrounds its antlers with a dark red energy and jabs them into the opponent violently, sapping them on contact. Half of the damage inflicted is healed.

Attack Power: 8 | Accuracy: 100% | Energy Cost: 8 | Attack Type: Physical | Effect Chance: -- | Contact: Yes | Typing: Grass | Priority: 0 | CT: Set

Why does this cost 4 less energy than the other 8 BAP draining moves?

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Originally Posted by Fat Objection

I have just noticed that Shadow Force, the most powerful of the damaging evasive moves (12 BAP, +1 prio evasive action, hits through Protect and Detect) costs 10 energy, whereas all other damaging evasive moves (except for Bounce from a sufficiently heavy pokemon *cough*Wailord*cough* and Sky Drop) have an energy cost greater than their BAP.

OK, I've fixed pretty much everything posted except the above two, because I didn't know what to change them to (or if they were intended to be that way).

Aweshucks · Jun 22nd, 2012, 3:32:24 PM

So I noticed a lot of references to what I assume to be the older names of counters. "Trainer Counters" are especially mentioned a lot

EspyOwner · Jun 22nd, 2012, 4:24:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Aweshucks

So I noticed a lot of references to what I assume to be the older names of counters. "Trainer Counters" are especially mentioned a lot

Trainer counters are old CC.

Aweshucks · Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:54:40 PM

Yeah, I figured that, but it still needs to be updated

typon77 · Jun 23rd, 2012, 11:35:01 AM

In response to Alex mentioning Horn Leech having a lower EN cost, this may have something to do with it being a much more exclusive move?

Objection · Jun 23rd, 2012, 11:58:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat typon77

In response to Alex mentioning Horn Leech having a lower EN cost, this may have something to do with it being a much more exclusive move?

I doubt it. From what I have seen, the distribution of a move does not affect that move's attributes in any way, shape or form (except for that one time Chatter got 100% confusion rate). And if you need to know why move distribution is irrelevant, two words: Unown Soup.

waterwarrior · Jul 5th, 2012, 8:13:03 PM

In the section where the stats of all Pokemon are listed, Sandslash's HP stat is mistakenly listed as "HP 100:" instead of "HP: 100"

EDIT (Elevator Music): Fixed

rickheg · Jul 10th, 2012, 5:17:23 PM

Stockpile's description seems just a bit wrong. It states that it can only be used 3 times, when I feel like it should say that its effect can only be stacked up to 3 times.

ObjEDIT: Fixed.

SubwayJ · Jul 29th, 2012, 3:30:23 PM

Just minor but the CT of Power Trick is listed as "Pssive" instead of, "Passive"

ObjEDIT: Fixed.

Eternal Drifter · Aug 1st, 2012, 12:52:18 AM

Pay Day, the attack, as listed, is out of date. This relevation comes from the responses in the question and answer thread.

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Originally Posted by Fat Eternal Drifter

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Originally Posted by Fat SubwayJ

*SNIP*

Also
NOTE to Eternal Drifter:
I know it doesn't say so in the DAT but there is a rule (I have been influenced by it) that states you only get the CC bonus if you win the battle.

Is this true? If it is, then my plan for cash is heading towards the drain...

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Originally Posted by Fat Data Audit Thread MkII

Pay Day: The Pokemon summons energy packets and throws them at the opponent. The energy turn into coins after impact. Each use of Pay Day nets the trainer 1 TC. If the Pokemon has Amulet Coin attached, it gains two TC each use. A maximum of 3 TC can be gained this way in any given battle.

Attack Power: 4 | Accuracy: 100% | Energy Cost: 2 | Attack Type: Physical | Effect Chance: -- | Contact: No | Typing: Normal | Priority: 0 | CT: Passive

First, the move references TC, which, from what I gather, no longer exists. TC was converted to CC before my arrival here, and so Pay Day should also reflect this change.

Second, it has been shockingly brought to my attention that you only get the CC from Pay Day if you win the battle. This throws a large wench in my plans, and should be put into the description to prevent others from making a mistake like I have.

EDIT (Elevator Music): Fixed

EndQuote · Aug 1st, 2012, 7:51:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Eternal Drifter

This throws a large wench in my plans...

If you don't want her, I'll take her off your hands...

**Elevator Music** · Aug 9th, 2012, 8:14:00 PM

I've updated the stat listing to show the modified WC for Light Metal and Heavy Metal Pokemon instead of their weight.

Its_A_Random · Aug 11th, 2012, 3:58:05 AM

DeepSeaTooth & DeepSeaScale are misspelt as DeapSeaTooth & DeapSeaScale respectively. /random pc++ post

EDIT (Elevator Music): fixed

EndQuote · Aug 19th, 2012, 8:38:09 AM

Simple C+P Error, I think.

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Originally Posted by Fat DAT

10. Stat Descriptions and Nature Effects

This links to one of IAR's Hall Runs.

EDIT (Elevator Music): Fixed. The one below it was also wrong but its correct now.

waterwarrior · Sep 5th, 2012, 8:30:55 PM

Poison Jab's description is missing a sentence:

Current: The Pokemon extends a fist, horn, or other appendage coated in poison and strikes the opponent hard.

Should be: The Pokemon extends a fist, horn, or other appendage coated in poison and strikes the opponent hard. It also has a good chance to poison the target.

Or something along those lines.

ObjEDIT: Fixed.

Jun 7th, 2012, 11:10:55 AM	#176
Maxim Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,460	Hmm, one minor issue I'm not sure of. The Data Audit Thread and the Referee Resource Thread have differing mechanics for how stats decay. Referee Resource Thread Stat boosters/drops will work exactly as they do in-game, boosting as many stages as is stated in the attack. At the end of a Round (after the damage is calculated and applied to the opponent), whatever boost/drop a Pokemon has will be moved towards a zero stage boost, and any boosts/drops they would get from their 3rd action are moved forward to apply to the next Round: +1 Stat Boosters/Drops from non-damaging moves (Meditate, Leer) last for the Round in which the move was used, as well as the following Round, before decaying back to zero. +2 and +3 Stat Boosters/Drops (Swords Dance, Tail Glow) have different rates of decay depending on which Action they were used: Action 1: Moves one stage toward zero at the end of the current Round and continues this way until the stage boost reaches zero. Action 2/3: Moves one stage toward zero at the end of the following Round and continues this way until the stage boost reaches zero. +1/+1 and +1 Boosters/Drops with Damage (Bulk Up, Dragon Dance, Charge Beam, Close Combat, Low Sweep) have different rates of decay depending on which Action they were used: Action 1/2: Resets to zero at the end of the following Round. Action 3: Resets to zero at the end of the following two Rounds. For Speed stat boost, each stage boost multiplies or divides the Pokemon's Speed by a factor of 1.75, calculated using the Pokemon's base Speed stat. For instance, a 70 Speed Pokemon using Agility will wind up with 70(1.752)=245 Speed, while a 70 Speed Pokemon slowed by Mud Shot will have 70/1.75=40 Speed. Data Audit Thread Boosts only ever reset +1 or -1 toward 0 at the end of a round. +1 Stat Boosts/Drops received from non-damaging moves (Meditate, Leer, etc.) have that stat maintained at the end of the round in which they were used. To continue to lock the stat for future rounds, the moves must be used again in those rounds, otherwise they will begin to decrement as normal. Otherwise, these are treated the same as the +1/+1 Stat Boosts/Drops as noted below. Moves treated this way have the phrase "This move locks its changed stat for the round within which it was used." in their Data Audit thread description. +2 and +3 Stat Boosts/Drops (Swords Dance, Tail Glow, etc.) and +2 or +3 Boosting/Dropping components of other moves (Shift Gear's Speed boost, etc.) changed from 0 last for at least 2 actions after the usage action before being prone to resetting toward 0. +1/+1 Stat Boosts/Drops (Calm Mind, Quiver Dance, Bulk Up, etc.) and +1 Stat Boosts/Drops with Damage (Charge, Close Combat, Low Sweep, etc.) changed from 0 last for at least 4 actions after the usage action before being prone to resetting toward 0. The action counts above do not include the action taken to activate the boosting or dropping move itself. So...which set of rules is more up to date? __________________ The avatar was taken from Marriland. CAP ASB Join Free RPG to play fun, freestyle RPGs.

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Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,011 Maryland	Well then i suggest that synthesis be changed to match morning sun and moonlight, since they do the exact same thing in-game __________________ [11:56pm] Pwnemon: statutory rape and all [11:56pm] bmelts: i have such a huge boner right now [9:28pm] Kadew: pwnemon that signature is like an x marking the spot of treasure, except instead of treasure its a pile of humorous garbage that turtles crapped out

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EspyOwner Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,678 Hey! I'm Mr. Simple.	Why are you associating Disable with Spite? :\| Spite raises EN cost, Disable prevents the use of the move completely. __________________

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waterwarrior Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,670 FREAKING UNICORNS ON FREAKING RAINBOWS	Poison Jab's description is missing a sentence: Current: The Pokemon extends a fist, horn, or other appendage coated in poison and strikes the opponent hard. Should be: The Pokemon extends a fist, horn, or other appendage coated in poison and strikes the opponent hard. It also has a good chance to poison the target. Or something along those lines. ObjEDIT: Fixed. __________________ CAP ASB <Engineer> dw you should come to america <Engineer> where you can eat burgers and get fat <Destiny_Warrior> 9.9 engi * kingofburgerz [~cgiirc@synIRC-43958468.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #capasb** Last edited by Objection; Sep 19th, 2012 at 8:53:44 PM.