Shedinja

Cassie · Aug 19th, 2011, 7:12:54 PM

"Always at the back of our minds, but never on the field"

Shedinja

HP: 1
Atk: 90
Def: 45
SpA: 30
SpD: 30
Spe: 40

Ability:
Wonder Guard: The Pokémon is only harmed by Super Effective damage, weather effects and condition effects.

Moves

GBU Doubles Sets
Shedinja @ Focus Sash
252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
Ability: Wonder Guard
- Shadow Sneak / Shadow Claw
- X-Scissor
- Sunny Day
- Protect

Wonder Guard, an ability unique to Shedinja, allows immunity to all attacks that aren't of the Flying, Fire, Ghost, Dark, or Rock type.
Shedinja works well with Earthquake, Discharge, and Surf abusers because of said ability.
Shedinja can disrupt Rain teams with Sunny Day, as most are unprepared against it.
Shadow Sneak or Shadow Claw works for Shedinja's Ghost STAB. Shadow Sneak having priority, while Shadow Claw has more power.
It's Bug / Ghost typing gives Shedinja powerful STAB's, but also brings about quite a few weaknesses.
Focus Sash allows Shedinja to live through two hits.
Shedinja loses to Hail and Sandstorm if it does not use Sunny Day, as well as abilities that sap health, Mold Breaker, and moves such as Leech Seed. The absence of entry hazards in Doubles makes it easier to use Shedinja.

So Shedinja seems gimmicky at a glance but in my own experience it's destroyed Rain teams. Discuss!

Zyrac · Aug 19th, 2011, 7:22:41 PM

Haven't used this guy but I've certainly considered it. His mere presence on the team plays some nice head games with the opponent, since they need to make sure they have something to kill him with when - or if - he comes out.

I wouldn't say Shedinja "loses to hail". As long as he keeps using Sunny Day it won't kill him, and most hail abusers have nothing else to hit him with.

**Solace*** · Aug 19th, 2011, 7:53:41 PM

if you're not prepared for Shedinja it can basically wreck you so don't underestimate this little bug!

most people do tend to have moves that can damage it, but if played correctly it can be an excellent supporter and give your opponent a tough time, even more so in singles where it can spread confusion, toxic, or will-o-wisp the opponent on the switch if they don't have the right moves to beat it.

Virizion · Aug 19th, 2011, 8:03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Solace.

if you're not prepared for Shedinja it can basically wreck you so don't underestimate this little bug!

most people do tend to have moves that can damage it, but if played correctly it can be an excellent supporter and give your opponent a tough time, even more so in singles where it can spread confusion, toxic, or will-o-wisp the opponent on the switch if they don't have the right moves to beat it.

The best I've gotten out of Shedinja was while not even using it to battle - the ability to literally know what three Pokémon the opponent will bring is very useful, it allows me to arrange my team to counter their Shedinja-killers. It makes people paranoid, yes; but the actual effort required to keep it alive usually isn't worth the results you'll get from it on the battlefield.

**Solace*** · Aug 19th, 2011, 8:24:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Virizion

The best I've gotten out of Shedinja was while not even using it to battle - the ability to literally know what three Pokémon the opponent will bring is very useful, it allows me to arrange my team to counter their Shedinja-killers. It makes people paranoid, yes; but the actual effort required to keep it alive usually isn't worth the results you'll get from it on the battlefield.

In both ways it works, different styles for different players. If you see your opponent has nothing to beat it, might as well use it, but if not you can lure out your opponent's Shedinja counters, and benefit from it that way. All different forms of strategy.

DreamTalon · Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:22:23 PM

Basically Shedinja is a 1 trick pony. I never use it, but I always have know that I need at least one pokemon who can hit it on a team. But essentially, Shedinja's rain team check is what will most likely make it used on team the most.

Aug 19th, 2011, 7:12:54 PM	#1
Cassie giant claw Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 502 Dark Explorers	Shedinja "Always at the back of our minds, but never on the field" Shedinja HP: 1 Atk: 90 Def: 45 SpA: 30 SpD: 30 Spe: 40 Ability: Wonder Guard: The Pokémon is only harmed by Super Effective damage, weather effects and condition effects. Moves Code: Level-Up Moves Lv1 Scratch Lv1 Harden Lv5 Leech Life Lv9 Sand-Attack Lv14 Fury Swipes Lv19 Mind Reader Lv25 Spite Lv31 Confuse Ray Lv38 Shadow Sneak Lv45 Grudge Lv52 Heal Block Lv59 Shadow Ball TM/HMs Learned TM01 Hone Claws TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM15 Hyper Beam TM17 Protect TM19 Telekinesis TM21 Frustration TM22 Solar Beam TM27 Return TM28 Dig TM30 Shadow Ball TM32 Double Team TM37 Sandstorm TM40 Aerial Ace TM42 Facade TM44 Rest TM46 Thief TM48 Round TM54 False Swipe TM61 Will-o-wisp TM65 Shadow Claw TM68 Giga Impact TM70 Flash TM76 Struggle Bug TM81 X-Scissor TM85 Dream Eater TM87 Swagger TM90 Substitute HM01 Cut Egg Moves Endure Faint Attack Gust Silver Wind Bug Buzz Night Slash Bug Bite Final Gambit Gen IV Move Tutor Giga Drain Secret Power Sleep Talk Natural Gift Fury Cutter Sucker Punch Trick Snore Mud-slap String Shot GBU Doubles Sets Shedinja @ Focus Sash 252 Atk / 252 Spe Adamant Nature Ability: Wonder Guard - Shadow Sneak / Shadow Claw - X-Scissor - Sunny Day - Protect Wonder Guard, an ability unique to Shedinja, allows immunity to all attacks that aren't of the Flying, Fire, Ghost, Dark, or Rock type. Shedinja works well with Earthquake, Discharge, and Surf abusers because of said ability. Shedinja can disrupt Rain teams with Sunny Day, as most are unprepared against it. Shadow Sneak or Shadow Claw works for Shedinja's Ghost STAB. Shadow Sneak having priority, while Shadow Claw has more power. It's Bug / Ghost typing gives Shedinja powerful STAB's, but also brings about quite a few weaknesses. Focus Sash allows Shedinja to live through two hits. Shedinja loses to Hail and Sandstorm if it does not use Sunny Day, as well as abilities that sap health, Mold Breaker, and moves such as Leech Seed. The absence of entry hazards in Doubles makes it easier to use Shedinja. So Shedinja seems gimmicky at a glance but in my own experience it's destroyed Rain teams. Discuss! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] np: Trade Thread \| #vgc if you want your Pokemon quicker Last edited by Cassie; Aug 25th, 2011 at 1:32:07 PM.

Aug 19th, 2011, 7:53:41 PM	#3
Solace* IM A BITCH IM A LOVER IM A CHILD IM A MOTHER Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,985 IM A SINNER IM A SAINT I DO NOT FEEL ASHAMED Mentor	if you're not prepared for Shedinja it can basically wreck you so don't underestimate this little bug! most people do tend to have moves that can damage it, but if played correctly it can be an excellent supporter and give your opponent a tough time, even more so in singles where it can spread confusion, toxic, or will-o-wisp the opponent on the switch if they don't have the right moves to beat it. __________________

Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:22:23 PM	#6
DreamTalon Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 186 Dallas, Texas	Basically Shedinja is a 1 trick pony. I never use it, but I always have know that I need at least one pokemon who can hit it on a team. But essentially, Shedinja's rain team check is what will most likely make it used on team the most. __________________ "We must treasure these (Unown), since they are us at our very core... ALSO, DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE WORDS OUT OF THEM? THAT'S PRETTY COOL!!!!!!!!"

Aug 19th, 2011, 7:22:41 PM	#2
Zyrac Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 65	Haven't used this guy but I've certainly considered it. His mere presence on the team plays some nice head games with the opponent, since they need to make sure they have something to kill him with when - or if - he comes out. I wouldn't say Shedinja "loses to hail". As long as he keeps using Sunny Day it won't kill him, and most hail abusers have nothing else to hit him with.