Chansey

~~BattleStar~~ · Sep 10th, 2011, 11:18:34 PM

Chansey
HP:250
Attack:5
Defense:5
Special Attack:35
Special Defense:105
Speed:50

General Overview: Chansey is one of the the pokemon this Generation that performs better than it's evolution. It's all because of the item Evolite. This makes Chansey a Special Defense complete Stopper, surprass blissey. It is capable of playing on all types of battles. It has access to many support, healing, and status moves. It can perform numerous different roles. Overall if you want team support, Put your money on Chansey.

Singles Set
Chansey@Evolite
Bold/ Calm
252 HP/252 Def/4 SpDef
Natural Cure

- SoftBoiled/ Wish
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss
- Protect/ Minimize

- Is an effective set
- Chansey can toxic opponents other team, sucking down HP
- Chansey is blessed with a recovery move, softboiled.
- If wish is available use it in the set, only problem is it's a event move.
- Seismic toss is the other damage option for Chansey.
- Protect is used to stall
- Great Special Attack wall

Other Options: Chansey can also do some other roles. It could running a counter set to stop Strong Physical attackers that can usually 2 OHKO or OHKO Chansey. Heal bell could be used to provide it's teammates a Poison/Burn/Paralyzed Environment. Other options also are Thunder Wave, Substitute, light screen, and swagger.
Also if you are feeling noobish use minimize or attract.

Doubles/Triples Set
Chansey@Evolite
Bold/Calm
252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 SpeDef
Natrua Cure

- Heal Pulse
- SafeGuard/ Thunder Wave
- Protect/ SoftBoiled
- Toxic/ Thunder Wave

- Another very effective set
- Chansey is one of the best Heal Pulsers in the game
- Has good durability, in turn keeping it's team alive
- SafeGuard make it team immune to status moves
- Protect is great to stop from being ganged up on
- Thunder Wave is great to slow down the other triple threats
- However Toxic can wear down Pokemon.
- Softboiled can be used to keep itself alive
- Healer is a good ability to keep it's team healthy and not need SafeGuard

NoUserName · Sep 11th, 2011, 12:29:51 AM

Not always that pokemon is better than her 'mother', lack of Leftovers hurts, especially on sand or hail, burns, poison and all types of entry hazards. She suffers more than Blissey against Trick users.

Also she is not perfect as Special wall, lack of pseudo-hazing moves hurt, she is the best setup fodder for Reuniclus and CM Psychoshock can hurt her badly.

~~BattleStar~~ · Sep 11th, 2011, 10:02:13 AM

Okay. But I don't really see people use entry hazards that much with 3V3.
Blissey is better in some aspects though.

***Jibaku**** · Sep 11th, 2011, 10:35:49 AM

Few things:
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Singles

- Is an effective set
- Chansey can toxic opponents other team, sucking down HP
- Chansey is blessed with a recovery move, softboiled.
- If wish is available use it in the set, only problem is it's a event move.
- Seismic toss is the other damage option for Chansey.
- Protect is used to stall
- Great Special Attack wall

Ok I'm going to need you to extend your information than just this. Yes we all know of Chansey's basic qualities, but I want you to mention why / how Chansey can thrive in the 3v3 metagame. Also focus more on Minimize since it is banned on Smogon - A set of Substitute/Minimize/Seismic Toss/Softboiled can be incredibly annoying to face if you lack a ghost or something that can outstall it. You could even go Minimize/SToss/Toxic/Softboiled though it could be a risky move.

Second thing: Can someone test if WishBliss is legal on GBU?

Third:

Quote:

Doubles/Triples Set
Chansey@Evolite
Bold/Calm
252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 SpeDef
Healer

Healer isnt released iirc, and your brief description once again lacks insight. I can't give you specifics - that's for you to educate me and the rest of the viewers of the thread.

NoUserName · Sep 11th, 2011, 11:40:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat BattleStar

Okay. But I don't really see people use entry hazards that much with 3V3.
Blissey is better in some aspects though.

I wanted to say Chansey is not better than Blissey in all situations.

DreamTalon · Sep 11th, 2011, 1:30:59 PM

I would say Blissey is a better stall user in Doubles because of Leftovers recovery. Can Chansey learn Seismic Toss? If so, it needs to be in the doubles set.

cosmicexplorer · Sep 11th, 2011, 1:41:13 PM

Leftovers recovery is really fleeting and hardly noticeable in Doubles; I wouldn't say that's much of an advantage when Chansey's increased bulk (especially physically) makes it much more difficult to KO. Chansey can learn Seismic Toss.

Counter should definitely be mentioned on Chansey; it can take most Close Combats and return them for an OHKO, although it will be at rather low health after doing so.

Zyrac · Sep 11th, 2011, 1:55:49 PM

Yeah, Leftovers is overrated in doubles. Blissey does seem more common than than Chansey on the GBU, but I really can't see why.

~~BattleStar~~ · Sep 16th, 2011, 9:13:20 AM

Well not everyone there is a smogon style battler. However Chansey is more useful.
I will certainly edit this soon.

**Solace*** · Sep 17th, 2011, 1:46:00 PM

i would definitely like to see some more expansion on the description of the set. they dont really show anything other than the obvious (thunder wave paralyzes, etc.) it would be nice to see how this affects specific pokemon that may harm chansey.

also healer isn't released so outside of some speculation it's not really anything worth mentioning at the moment, since there's no legal way of getting it.

keep at it, you've got the basis for some good stuff here :)

~~BattleStar~~ · Sep 17th, 2011, 10:34:48 PM

Yes sir Mr.Solace

I will do a major revamp of it tomorrow!

Sprocket · Oct 19th, 2011, 1:49:08 AM

Healer Chansey is soon to be released. Any thoughts on using it in Doubles with the above doubles moveset? Sure it's still bait for things like Close Combat and all...

Sep 10th, 2011, 11:18:34 PM	#1
~~BattleStar~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 629 In a desert far away.	Chansey Chansey HP:250 Attack:5 Defense:5 Special Attack:35 Special Defense:105 Speed:50 General Overview: Chansey is one of the the pokemon this Generation that performs better than it's evolution. It's all because of the item Evolite. This makes Chansey a Special Defense complete Stopper, surprass blissey. It is capable of playing on all types of battles. It has access to many support, healing, and status moves. It can perform numerous different roles. Overall if you want team support, Put your money on Chansey. Singles Set Chansey@Evolite Bold/ Calm 252 HP/252 Def/4 SpDef Natural Cure - SoftBoiled/ Wish - Toxic - Seismic Toss - Protect/ Minimize - Is an effective set - Chansey can toxic opponents other team, sucking down HP - Chansey is blessed with a recovery move, softboiled. - If wish is available use it in the set, only problem is it's a event move. - Seismic toss is the other damage option for Chansey. - Protect is used to stall - Great Special Attack wall Other Options: Chansey can also do some other roles. It could running a counter set to stop Strong Physical attackers that can usually 2 OHKO or OHKO Chansey. Heal bell could be used to provide it's teammates a Poison/Burn/Paralyzed Environment. Other options also are Thunder Wave, Substitute, light screen, and swagger. Also if you are feeling noobish use minimize or attract. Doubles/Triples Set Chansey@Evolite Bold/Calm 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 SpeDef Natrua Cure - Heal Pulse - SafeGuard/ Thunder Wave - Protect/ SoftBoiled - Toxic/ Thunder Wave - Another very effective set - Chansey is one of the best Heal Pulsers in the game - Has good durability, in turn keeping it's team alive - SafeGuard make it team immune to status moves - Protect is great to stop from being ganged up on - Thunder Wave is great to slow down the other triple threats - However Toxic can wear down Pokemon. - Softboiled can be used to keep itself alive - Healer is a good ability to keep it's team healthy and not need SafeGuard Last edited by BattleStar; Sep 11th, 2011 at 9:27:26 PM.

Sep 11th, 2011, 12:29:51 AM	#2
NoUserName Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 466	Not always that pokemon is better than her 'mother', lack of Leftovers hurts, especially on sand or hail, burns, poison and all types of entry hazards. She suffers more than Blissey against Trick users. Also she is not perfect as Special wall, lack of pseudo-hazing moves hurt, she is the best setup fodder for Reuniclus and CM Psychoshock can hurt her badly. __________________ Friend Code Black: 1291 8464 3703 Standard rules, I use legal hacks from Pokesav. Don't use unreleased abilities, moves and items. Wonder Launcher Off, Voice Chat Off

Sep 11th, 2011, 1:30:59 PM	#6
DreamTalon Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 186 Dallas, Texas	I would say Blissey is a better stall user in Doubles because of Leftovers recovery. Can Chansey learn Seismic Toss? If so, it needs to be in the doubles set. __________________ "We must treasure these (Unown), since they are us at our very core... ALSO, DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE WORDS OUT OF THEM? THAT'S PRETTY COOL!!!!!!!!"

Sep 11th, 2011, 1:41:13 PM	#7
cosmicexplorer pewpewpew Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,555 Bethesda, MD	Leftovers recovery is really fleeting and hardly noticeable in Doubles; I wouldn't say that's much of an advantage when Chansey's increased bulk (especially physically) makes it much more difficult to KO. Chansey can learn Seismic Toss. Counter should definitely be mentioned on Chansey; it can take most Close Combats and return them for an OHKO, although it will be at rather low health after doing so. __________________ FATECRASHERS MADE MY AVATAR! Go look at more art! Currently out, college apps are poison. C&Cers, contact me if you need any help with anything important. Sorry!

Sep 17th, 2011, 1:46:00 PM	#10
Solace* ok bye Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,987 IM A SINNER IM A SAINT I DO NOT FEEL ASHAMED Mentor	i would definitely like to see some more expansion on the description of the set. they dont really show anything other than the obvious (thunder wave paralyzes, etc.) it would be nice to see how this affects specific pokemon that may harm chansey. also healer isn't released so outside of some speculation it's not really anything worth mentioning at the moment, since there's no legal way of getting it. keep at it, you've got the basis for some good stuff here :) __________________

Sep 11th, 2011, 10:02:13 AM	#3
~~BattleStar~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 629 In a desert far away.	Okay. But I don't really see people use entry hazards that much with 3V3. Blissey is better in some aspects though.

Sep 11th, 2011, 1:55:49 PM	#8
Zyrac Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 65	Yeah, Leftovers is overrated in doubles. Blissey does seem more common than than Chansey on the GBU, but I really can't see why.

Sep 16th, 2011, 9:13:20 AM	#9
~~BattleStar~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 629 In a desert far away.	Well not everyone there is a smogon style battler. However Chansey is more useful. I will certainly edit this soon.

Sep 17th, 2011, 10:34:48 PM	#11
~~BattleStar~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 629 In a desert far away.	Yes sir Mr.Solace I will do a major revamp of it tomorrow!

Oct 19th, 2011, 1:49:08 AM	#12
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,494 Phoenix, AZ	Healer Chansey is soon to be released. Any thoughts on using it in Doubles with the above doubles moveset? Sure it's still bait for things like Close Combat and all... __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)