VGC 2012 rules up! - Page 4

froggy25 · Sep 19th, 2011, 8:38:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat soul_survivor

Well I think I know why they would ban dark void smeargle. Mainly because the effect it had in 2009 where quite a few teams pack smeargle. Also if i recall there was a few ppl who got into t16 in both O8 and 09.

I do think they were rightfully scared about Moody Smeargle getting +2 Evasion and starting spamming DV and avoiding opponent's attacks.

Yeti · Sep 19th, 2011, 8:53:21 PM

thank truck dark void is b&

sad my ubers aren't allowed in but with all gens i might just take a whirl this year. GO WEATHER

EeveeTrainer · Sep 19th, 2011, 8:54:06 PM

stopped reading at double battles

destinybond · Sep 19th, 2011, 8:59:27 PM

Yay best set of rules yet. Thank god no DV

hockeyguy605 · Sep 19th, 2011, 9:01:05 PM

I've never been to any Pokemon VGC or battled competitively before. What would I need to do to prepare, aside from massive amounts of practice?

Cybertron · Sep 19th, 2011, 9:04:01 PM

Practice on the Pokemon Online program on the Skarmbliss VGC server. Once you've created a team you like, build it in a game! You can even test your team on random matchup at the Global Battle Union. Practice is the most important part to success, along with a bit of luck on your side. Regionals are always a ton of fun, and there are some big changes for this year!

froggy25 · Sep 19th, 2011, 9:04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat hockeyguy605

I've never been to any Pokemon VGC or battled competitively before. What would I need to do to prepare, aside from massive amounts of practice?

luck

soul_survivor · Sep 19th, 2011, 9:11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat hockeyguy605

I've never been to any Pokemon VGC or battled competitively before. What would I need to do to prepare, aside from massive amounts of practice?

pro tip: Run scarf togekiss and see how many smogoneers you hax out.

Oberon · Sep 19th, 2011, 9:25:51 PM

MIDWEST REGIONAL DANGIT

I'm sick of LCQ.

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Originally Posted by Fat mattj

YES! DRIZZLETOAD + SCARFJIRACHI SPAMMING THUNDER GOGOGO!

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dangit

I lol'd

breh · Sep 19th, 2011, 9:45:21 PM

holy shit, I come home to a thread with 4 pages. damn.

anyway, nice to know that it's just normal doubles. I wish they would ban rock slide but, other than that, the meta can't be any better.

also oooooh dark void ban. Smeargle is so much less useful now lol.

for anybody who needs tips: use some sort of weather starter. if your team is not heavily reliant (or not reliant at all) on weather, use Abomasnow or tyranitar. If you want, use both on the same team. Just... use one. Also dedicated TR kind of sucks. Sticking TR on random pokes as a last ditch effort is fine, though.

**Arcticblast** · Sep 19th, 2011, 9:52:45 PM

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Pokémon may only use moves that have been learned through one of the following methods:
o By leveling up
o By TM or HM
o As an Egg move, through breeding
o From a character in the game
o A move already known by a Pokémon received at an official Pokémon event or promotion

Does this mean no previous-gen exclusive moves like XD special moves or 4th Gen TMs and tutors?

Ashenlock · Sep 19th, 2011, 9:54:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat soul_survivor

Well I think I know why they would ban dark void smeargle. Mainly because the effect it had in 2009 where quite a few teams pack smeargle. Also if i recall there was a few ppl who got into t16 in both O8 and 09.

It's true that it was potent in Gen IV, but it lost a lot of that because of the upgrade of Fake Out to 3 priority, making Follow Me no longer an almost-guarantee for successful setup. I don't mean to diss Smeargle--I love the little guy--only I don't see nearly as many people running it in the GBU as I did when I went around looking for matches in Gen IV. But that's neither here nor now. The point is that the rules exist as they do, and that's fine by me; the earlier the better.

drcossack · Sep 19th, 2011, 9:59:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Breludicolo

holy shit, I come home to a thread with 4 pages. damn.

anyway, nice to know that it's just normal doubles. I wish they would ban rock slide but, other than that, the meta can't be any better.

also oooooh dark void ban. Smeargle is so much less useful now lol.

for anybody who needs tips: use some sort of weather starter. if your team is not heavily reliant (or not reliant at all) on weather, use Abomasnow or tyranitar. If you want, use both on the same team. Just... use one. Also dedicated TR kind of sucks. Sticking TR on random pokes as a last ditch effort is fine, though.

Don't underestimate Moody. Granted, it's not gonna be as reliable in a doubles format, but if you get the right boost on your first turn...

~Golden Emp · Sep 19th, 2011, 10:07:17 PM

Well...the only thing we didn't know was the exclusion of Dark Void.

BEST RULES THEY COULD MAKE!

Firestorm · Sep 19th, 2011, 10:07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Arcticblast

Does this mean no previous-gen exclusive moves like XD special moves or 4th Gen TMs and tutors?

XD is a game as are the 4th gen games. They're still TMs and characters in the game.

If you can obtain it legally without an external device and it's not listed as banned, you can use it.

TheCalmSnivy · Sep 19th, 2011, 10:09:28 PM

A bit later than the rest, but I gotta say
great rules!

breh · Sep 19th, 2011, 10:41:00 PM

moody is kind of like focus blast, except the chance that it works favorably is like 2/7 instead of 7/10. the only thing smeargle should be doing is smashpassing, which gorebyss is probably better at doing, tbh.

**religiousjedi** · Sep 19th, 2011, 10:51:44 PM

Have they announced where Regionals will be? If so, there a source? Hopefully, there's one nearby, but if not...into the business of VGC breeding!

Havak · Sep 19th, 2011, 11:09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat drcossack

Don't underestimate Moody. Granted, it's not gonna be as reliable in a doubles format, but if you get the right boost on your first turn...

Yeah, don't underestimate Moody.

I think Moody could be another reason why Dark Void was banned. It basically allowed Smeargle to double-Sleep both opponents and rely on Moody to hopefully boost the right stats. Easy for Psych Up boosts etc. This can still be obtained through playing around with Spore but it's slightly more difficult.

Regardless though, Dark Void was just a little more cheap than everything else, I think we can all agree on that and I'm sure there won't be many people complaining about its banning.

nightwolf · Sep 19th, 2011, 11:17:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat religiousjedi

Have they announced where Regionals will be? If so, there a source? Hopefully, there's one nearby, but if not...into the business of VGC breeding!

no. only maybe a handful have been confirmed locations

**voodoo pimp** · Sep 19th, 2011, 11:19:15 PM

Moody is going to be really annoying. None of the top teams will be relying on it, because it sucks in doubles, but there will still be people getting haxed out by it.

soul_survivor · Sep 19th, 2011, 11:27:53 PM

In the gbu battle videos section there was a moody team that won using stored power after skill swap musharna...... That might give an idea of how they might fair in vgc.

chaoguy · Sep 19th, 2011, 11:39:56 PM

I don't know about everywhere, but at the Florida Battle Roads for the TCG it was announced that their will for a fact be a VGC Regional in Florida the same weekend as the TCG Regional at the same venue, with the TCG swiss matches being Saturday and the VGC matches being Sunday.

nightwolf · Sep 19th, 2011, 11:52:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat chaoguy

I don't know about everywhere, but at the Florida Battle Roads for the TCG it was announced that their will for a fact be a VGC Regional in Florida the same weekend as the TCG Regional at the same venue, with the TCG swiss matches being Saturday and the VGC matches being Sunday.

yes we found this out on friday morning

Arseus · Sep 19th, 2011, 11:53:04 PM

Between these rules and the Canadian regionals, it's like TPCi is begging me to compete.

This post was pretty superficial; I don't know what I was thinking. Anyway, it sounds like this is going to mirror the GBU if I understand correctly, albeit with Dark Void banned. So I suppose that's another venue in addition to Pokémon Online (that's the current sim, right?) that players can use to get familiar with the metagame.

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Sep 19th, 2011, 9:45:21 PM	#85
breh Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,939	holy shit, I come home to a thread with 4 pages. damn. anyway, nice to know that it's just normal doubles. I wish they would ban rock slide but, other than that, the meta can't be any better. also oooooh dark void ban. Smeargle is so much less useful now lol. for anybody who needs tips: use some sort of weather starter. if your team is not heavily reliant (or not reliant at all) on weather, use Abomasnow or tyranitar. If you want, use both on the same team. Just... use one. Also dedicated TR kind of sucks. Sticking TR on random pokes as a last ditch effort is fine, though. __________________ VGC Regionals: VGC11 Top 16, VGC12 12th Place

Sep 19th, 2011, 10:07:17 PM	#89
~Golden Emp Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 560 México D.F.	Well...the only thing we didn't know was the exclusion of Dark Void. BEST RULES THEY COULD MAKE! __________________ I'm loving college. I really miss VGC.

Sep 19th, 2011, 8:59:27 PM	#79
destinybond Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 154	Yay best set of rules yet. Thank god no DV

Sep 19th, 2011, 9:04:01 PM	#81
Cybertron Stay classy. Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,922	Practice on the Pokemon Online program on the Skarmbliss VGC server. Once you've created a team you like, build it in a game! You can even test your team on random matchup at the Global Battle Union. Practice is the most important part to success, along with a bit of luck on your side. Regionals are always a ton of fun, and there are some big changes for this year!

Sep 19th, 2011, 10:09:28 PM	#91
TheCalmSnivy Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 121 Virbank	A bit later than the rest, but I gotta say great rules! __________________ VGC Worlds 2011- 25th Place VGC Regionals 2012- 1st Place VGC Nationals 2012- 12th Place

Sep 19th, 2011, 10:41:00 PM	#92
breh Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,939	moody is kind of like focus blast, except the chance that it works favorably is like 2/7 instead of 7/10. the only thing smeargle should be doing is smashpassing, which gorebyss is probably better at doing, tbh. __________________ VGC Regionals: VGC11 Top 16, VGC12 12th Place

Sep 19th, 2011, 10:51:44 PM	#93
religiousjedi Curse you Arkeis and your BabbyChomp! <3 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,413	Have they announced where Regionals will be? If so, there a source? Hopefully, there's one nearby, but if not...into the business of VGC breeding! __________________ Jedi! Navi! Cereza! ☁ PPRNG Guide (Awaiting GP Checks) Beware!

Sep 19th, 2011, 11:19:15 PM	#96
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,965	Moody is going to be really annoying. None of the top teams will be relying on it, because it sucks in doubles, but there will still be people getting haxed out by it. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Sep 19th, 2011, 11:27:53 PM	#97
soul_survivor Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 876 StatenIsland, NY	In the gbu battle videos section there was a moody team that won using stored power after skill swap musharna...... That might give an idea of how they might fair in vgc. __________________ FC: 2709 6546 0200

Sep 19th, 2011, 11:39:56 PM	#98
chaoguy Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 33	I don't know about everywhere, but at the Florida Battle Roads for the TCG it was announced that their will for a fact be a VGC Regional in Florida the same weekend as the TCG Regional at the same venue, with the TCG swiss matches being Saturday and the VGC matches being Sunday.

Sep 19th, 2011, 11:53:04 PM	#100
Arseus Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 869	Between these rules and the Canadian regionals, it's like TPCi is begging me to compete. This post was pretty superficial; I don't know what I was thinking. Anyway, it sounds like this is going to mirror the GBU if I understand correctly, albeit with Dark Void banned. So I suppose that's another venue in addition to Pokémon Online (that's the current sim, right?) that players can use to get familiar with the metagame.