Rarely Used (RU) Tier

Rising_Dusk · Jun 5th, 2011, 9:43:28 AM

Well, we're here at last. With UU having been out for a month, I could piece together a banlist for UU that would create the tier below it for usage. There was some discussion in PR awhile back about what we would call a "fourthtier" if one would even exist, but there was really no clear consensus one way or the other. For that reason, I took it upon myself as head server administrator to make an executive decision on the matter. We now have the Rarely Used, or RU, tier available to us.

RU is the fourthtier for tiering based on usage. It exists as a result of there being so many Pokemon in the 5th generation that without it, NU would have easily more than 2/3 of the fully evolved Pokemon in the game among its ranks. In order to give players more freedom in tier choice and to give all of these Pokemon a chance in their power levels, like is the spirit of Smogon's tiers at all, the fourthtier RU was born.

The following Pokemon are banned from RU by usage, though this list excludes all of those Pokemon that are banned from UU (OU Pokemon and Ubers) despite that they too are banned:

Code:

Victini
Kyurem
Hitmontop
Arcanine
Donphan
Chansey
Heracross
Zapdos
Nidoking
Vulpix
Mew
Flygon
Slowbro
Empoleon
Milotic
Sawsbuck
Abomasnow
Suicune
Espeon
Deoxys-D
Kingdra
Roserade
Azelf
Cobalion
Celebi
Mismagius
Staraptor
Mamoswine
Registeel
Snorlax
Escavalier
Weavile
Nidoqueen
Houndoom
Dusclops
Froslass
Bisharp
Sigilyph
Xatu
Jolteon
Togekiss
Ambipom
Spiritomb
Victreebel
Shaymin
Tangrowth
Azumarill
Charizard
Rotom-H
Zoroark
Hippopotas
Raikou
Crobat
Aerodactyl

I honestly am not sure how popular this tier will be, if at all. That said, it looks to me like it will be a lot of fun given what might be good in it and what isn't there to wreck everything. I won't push for a full forum for this tier... yet. Please feel free to discuss the tier in this thread at your leisure. Based on how excited people are for it and the clamor for a forum, I may get one made at a later date. Until then, enjoy! Let's see what cool stuff we can do in the new tier!

P.S. If you want to discuss RU on IRC, come join everyone on #rarelyused

TM13IceBeam · Jun 5th, 2011, 9:44:04 AM

Venomoth and Quiver Dance is gonna make it interesting, seeing as it failed to get into UU.

Meff · Jun 5th, 2011, 9:55:22 AM

lol wobbuffet.
Gorebyss and Smeargle are down there too and I can picture SmashPassing being even more lethal in this tier. Snover is the only auto-weather starter so Hail might actually have a shot at being usable since there's no Drought to contend with, only really losing Kyurem and maybe Froslass from its list of benefitters.
Should be fun to try out RU, considering PO's LU tier was fun for a while.

TM13IceBeam · Jun 5th, 2011, 9:56:57 AM

Snover has a monopoly on weather, and most of the Blizzard spammers are down here. Hail and Baton Pass are gonna have a field day on this. QuiverPass, SmashPass and Hail are gonna be very common, period.

Redtype · Jun 5th, 2011, 10:00:30 AM

Yes! Finally a tier without the constant weather wars. Rarely Used (I assume it's a permanent name?) looks a lot like the 4th gen UU, with old favourites like Rhyperior, Yanmega, Alakazam, Moltres, Gallade, Cresselia and Honchkrow making into the list.

brb making a Cresselia team now

edit: shit, nvm the no weather wars part, snover is there

TM13IceBeam · Jun 5th, 2011, 10:12:14 AM

At least the snow tree has a monopoly on the auto-weather.

TLK · Jun 5th, 2011, 10:25:33 AM

Sharpedo will wreck shit up in this tier without it's main check (Hitmontop) and main counter (Empoleon).

Zacchaeus · Jun 5th, 2011, 10:30:47 AM

So NU will be below RU? And it will come about in about a month (if everything goes well)?

**PK Gaming** · Jun 5th, 2011, 10:57:46 AM

Talk about crazy, pokemon like Porygon Z, Evire, Krookodile, Sharpedo Moltres, Yanmega and Honchkrow are RU. I can't wait to see how this tier turns out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat TLK

Sharpedo will wreck shit up in this tier without it's main check (Hitmontop) and main counter (Empoleon).

Minor nitpick but Sharpedo gets EQ.

**capefeather** · Jun 5th, 2011, 10:58:03 AM

whoa RU ladder... gonna be interesting with possibly no one really enforcing it atm

Also, I look forward to this tier's banlist shifting wildly as UU settles... lol.

SuperJOCKE · Jun 5th, 2011, 11:30:57 AM

This could be fun now that Drought isn't present. I'll try it out later.

coolking49 · Jun 5th, 2011, 11:33:28 AM

this looks fun, though I really wouldn't want to see this end up like gen 4 NU with it not being tiered officially or played too much either. Looks fun as of now, although even more centralized than UU.

TLK · Jun 5th, 2011, 11:42:34 AM

From what I've seen so far, with little playing time and not much effort put into making a team: Yanmega and Venomoth destroy everything.

Blue_Star · Jun 5th, 2011, 11:51:19 AM

Lol, I don't think it was a good idea to make this tier now, considering UU is still a mess, but ok.

Doom Chaos · Jun 5th, 2011, 11:57:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Blue_Star

Lol, I don't think it was a good idea to make this tier now, considering UU is still a mess, but ok.

^Truth

***Birkal**** · Jun 5th, 2011, 12:04:04 PM

I feel like once this tier settles, it will be quite similar to Gen 4 UU. It should be a lotta fun! Thanks go out to the minds who decided this is a good idea.

PDC · Jun 5th, 2011, 12:22:38 PM

This is a fun tier. Really cool. I'm already #2 lol. Are we going to do suspect for it?

Prankster · Jun 5th, 2011, 12:39:16 PM

Hooray! A tier fit for my last gen favs like aggron and medicham and weezing. BTW Alakazam is OU.

Moo · Jun 5th, 2011, 12:42:13 PM

Good Job, but I think you should've waited a bit.
Also why not NU for nostalgia's sake? ;o;

Joel · Jun 5th, 2011, 12:48:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat TLK

From what I've seen so far, with little playing time and not much effort put into making a team: Yanmega and Venomoth destroy everything.

Couldn't Entei, Moltres, or (to a slightly lesser extent) Magmortar deal with these?

Gerard · Jun 5th, 2011, 12:59:55 PM

Great, that annoying liligant is RU, the good thing is that with the bans that this round should bring (vulpix already, and 6 other possible bans (from which i can easily see victini and kyurem banned) at least we'll get some new names on that list (probably enough to get venomoth - gorebyss out of it)

Mew · Jun 5th, 2011, 1:00:45 PM

So what's the cut-off? And is Hippopotas RU or UU?

Gerard · Jun 5th, 2011, 1:06:33 PM

For what i can see is the same as UU (about 3.4%), and hippo is UU, just above raikou, crobat and aerodactyl

DarthChocoboz · Jun 5th, 2011, 1:50:42 PM

So is this ban list the UU tier or does RU follow the current tiering system?

***Oglemi**** · Jun 5th, 2011, 1:55:19 PM

OMG I'm sooooooo happy you did this R_D!!!!! I'm so excited!

Dibs on leading RU C&C when it happens....

Also, this tier is going to be so fun, lol.

Jun 5th, 2011, 9:43:28 AM	#1
Rising_Dusk Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,742	Rarely Used (RU) Tier Well, we're here at last. With UU having been out for a month, I could piece together a banlist for UU that would create the tier below it for usage. There was some discussion in PR awhile back about what we would call a "fourthtier" if one would even exist, but there was really no clear consensus one way or the other. For that reason, I took it upon myself as head server administrator to make an executive decision on the matter. We now have the Rarely Used, or RU, tier available to us. RU is the fourthtier for tiering based on usage. It exists as a result of there being so many Pokemon in the 5th generation that without it, NU would have easily more than 2/3 of the fully evolved Pokemon in the game among its ranks. In order to give players more freedom in tier choice and to give all of these Pokemon a chance in their power levels, like is the spirit of Smogon's tiers at all, the fourthtier RU was born. The following Pokemon are banned from RU by usage, though this list excludes all of those Pokemon that are banned from UU (OU Pokemon and Ubers) despite that they too are banned: Code: Victini Kyurem Hitmontop Arcanine Donphan Chansey Heracross Zapdos Nidoking Vulpix Mew Flygon Slowbro Empoleon Milotic Sawsbuck Abomasnow Suicune Espeon Deoxys-D Kingdra Roserade Azelf Cobalion Celebi Mismagius Staraptor Mamoswine Registeel Snorlax Escavalier Weavile Nidoqueen Houndoom Dusclops Froslass Bisharp Sigilyph Xatu Jolteon Togekiss Ambipom Spiritomb Victreebel Shaymin Tangrowth Azumarill Charizard Rotom-H Zoroark Hippopotas Raikou Crobat Aerodactyl I honestly am not sure how popular this tier will be, if at all. That said, it looks to me like it will be a lot of fun given what might be good in it and what isn't there to wreck everything. I won't push for a full forum for this tier... yet. Please feel free to discuss the tier in this thread at your leisure. Based on how excited people are for it and the clamor for a forum, I may get one made at a later date. Until then, enjoy! Let's see what cool stuff we can do in the new tier! P.S. If you want to discuss RU on IRC, come join everyone on #rarelyused Last edited by Rising_Dusk; Jun 15th, 2011 at 1:00:09 AM. Reason: Added IRC Note

Jun 5th, 2011, 9:55:22 AM	#3
Meff Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 14 Where you'll find me now.	lol wobbuffet. Gorebyss and Smeargle are down there too and I can picture SmashPassing being even more lethal in this tier. Snover is the only auto-weather starter so Hail might actually have a shot at being usable since there's no Drought to contend with, only really losing Kyurem and maybe Froslass from its list of benefitters. Should be fun to try out RU, considering PO's LU tier was fun for a while. __________________ Meff Jangum on PO. I don't actually love Jesus Christ, you must be thinking of my twin White FC: 4770 6704 8382

Jun 5th, 2011, 9:56:57 AM	#4
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,246 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	Snover has a monopoly on weather, and most of the Blizzard spammers are down here. Hail and Baton Pass are gonna have a field day on this. QuiverPass, SmashPass and Hail are gonna be very common, period. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Jun 5th, 2011, 10:00:30 AM	#5
Redtype Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 742 Caution - Sawsbucks on road	Yes! Finally a tier without the constant weather wars. Rarely Used (I assume it's a permanent name?) looks a lot like the 4th gen UU, with old favourites like Rhyperior, Yanmega, Alakazam, Moltres, Gallade, Cresselia and Honchkrow making into the list. brb making a Cresselia team now edit: shit, nvm the no weather wars part, snover is there __________________ Trading is a serious business. White FC: 1678 3054 7710 SoulSilver FC: 2622 5126 4730

Jun 5th, 2011, 10:12:14 AM	#6
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,246 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	At least the snow tree has a monopoly on the auto-weather. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Jun 5th, 2011, 9:44:04 AM	#2
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,246 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	Venomoth and Quiver Dance is gonna make it interesting, seeing as it failed to get into UU. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Jun 5th, 2011, 10:25:33 AM	#7
TLK Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 401	Sharpedo will wreck shit up in this tier without it's main check (Hitmontop) and main counter (Empoleon). __________________ -Swampert: like Blastoise, but cooler-

Jun 5th, 2011, 10:30:47 AM	#8
Zacchaeus Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,268	So NU will be below RU? And it will come about in about a month (if everything goes well)?

Jun 5th, 2011, 10:58:03 AM	#10
capefeather hey, even pirates need attorneys Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,611 especially internet pirates	whoa RU ladder... gonna be interesting with possibly no one really enforcing it atm Also, I look forward to this tier's banlist shifting wildly as UU settles... lol. __________________ If we cannot take joy in things that are merely real, our lives will always be empty. <+joshe> im a registered sex offender for up to calc 3 <+Reflect_Suicune> i was thining of fucking jellicent for some reason <DetroitLolcat> I AM AROUSED BY BIMETALLIC CURRENCY!

Jun 5th, 2011, 11:30:57 AM	#11
SuperJOCKE Low Tier Warrior! Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,994 Location: Sweden Mentor	This could be fun now that Drought isn't present. I'll try it out later. __________________

Jun 5th, 2011, 11:33:28 AM	#12
coolking49 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,700 India	this looks fun, though I really wouldn't want to see this end up like gen 4 NU with it not being tiered officially or played too much either. Looks fun as of now, although even more centralized than UU. __________________ 1985, before the Iowa-Michigan game, Coach Fry sent a guard out to long snap during pregame punting warmups just to mess with Schembechler, then turned his back while the guard wildly snapped the ball over the punter's head, off the turf, and into the second row. Schembechler, watching the display, asked Fry, "You're not going to let that guy long snap today, are you?" Fry responded, "Coach Schembechler, I don't plan on punting." Go Hawkeyes

Jun 5th, 2011, 11:42:34 AM	#13
TLK Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 401	From what I've seen so far, with little playing time and not much effort put into making a team: Yanmega and Venomoth destroy everything. __________________ -Swampert: like Blastoise, but cooler-

Jun 5th, 2011, 11:51:19 AM	#14
Blue_Star gone (?) Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 735	Lol, I don't think it was a good idea to make this tier now, considering UU is still a mess, but ok.

Jun 5th, 2011, 12:04:04 PM	#16
*Birkal We have the technology. Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,007 The Mentor	I feel like once this tier settles, it will be quite similar to Gen 4 UU. It should be a lotta fun! Thanks go out to the minds who decided this is a good idea. __________________

Jun 5th, 2011, 12:22:38 PM	#17
PDC A coward dies a thousand deaths, a soldier dies but one Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 609	This is a fun tier. Really cool. I'm already #2 lol. Are we going to do suspect for it? __________________ Leave me a visitor message if you want me to rate your team!

Jun 5th, 2011, 12:39:16 PM	#18
Prankster Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 360	Hooray! A tier fit for my last gen favs like aggron and medicham and weezing. BTW Alakazam is OU.

Jun 5th, 2011, 12:42:13 PM	#19
Moo Professor Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,447	Good Job, but I think you should've waited a bit. Also why not NU for nostalgia's sake? ;o; __________________ GP / UU QC, VM for check VM for a UU rate

Jun 5th, 2011, 12:59:55 PM	#21
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,999 Mmm... Ice Cream!	Great, that annoying liligant is RU, the good thing is that with the bans that this round should bring (vulpix already, and 6 other possible bans (from which i can easily see victini and kyurem banned) at least we'll get some new names on that list (probably enough to get venomoth - gorebyss out of it)

Jun 5th, 2011, 1:00:45 PM	#22
Mew Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 383 Rainbow Cloud	So what's the cut-off? And is Hippopotas RU or UU? __________________ Join the UU community!

Jun 5th, 2011, 1:06:33 PM	#23
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,999 Mmm... Ice Cream!	For what i can see is the same as UU (about 3.4%), and hippo is UU, just above raikou, crobat and aerodactyl

Jun 5th, 2011, 1:50:42 PM	#24
DarthChocoboz Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 724 Ireland	So is this ban list the UU tier or does RU follow the current tiering system? __________________ Youtube Used to play. Then I didn't. Now I do

Jun 5th, 2011, 1:55:19 PM	#25
*Oglemi I crashed my car into the bridge, I don't care Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,529 ~(^.^)~	OMG I'm sooooooo happy you did this R_D!!!!! I'm so excited! Dibs on leading RU C&C when it happens.... Also, this tier is going to be so fun, lol.