Torkoal [QC 3/3]

Limi · Dec 27th, 2011, 2:29:29 PM

Oh god, I'm incredibly late.

[Overview]

- one of the very few spinners in NU
- physically very bulky
- edgy typing
- slow as molasses
- throws your momentum out of the window

[SET]
name: Spin Support
move 1: Rapid Spin
move 2: Lava Plume
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Yawn
item: Leftovers
ability: White Smoke
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

- Rapid Spin is the crux of this set and Torkoal's niche
- Lava Plume to actually pose a threat
- rocks for further team support
- Yawn so you aren't complete set-up fodder

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

- reaches 344 HP and 416 Def, incredible physical bulk
- no recovery outside of lefties, wish support is a valuable option
- waters of all kinds scare it, especially special attacking ones
- in fact, any strong special attack will leave a dent in it
- can take random stone edges and the likes fairly well, still should switch out at the sight of rhydon

[Other Options]

- Rest, possibly Sleep Talk, to increase longevity (Heal Bell support?), you'll turn into set-up fodder, though
- Shell Smash would be a good move for any Pokemon to have, but Torkoal is way too slow to sweep (reaches 304 max) and is outclassed by Magcargo of all things
- Toxic and WoW cripple certain threats

[Checks and Counters]

- specially attacking waters (Gorebyss, Slowking, Lanturn etc.) are its biggest foes
- Camerupt won't mind anything but Yawn and hits back hard with Earth Power
- physical waters and rocks (Quagsire, Regirock, Rhydon) pose a huge threat, too, but have to be wary of lava plume
- Misdreavus blocks its spins, taunts it and slowly kills it with Shadow Ball

[Dream World]

- Shell Armor is an OK ability, but in the end it doesn't do enough to warrant the loss of moves like Stealth Rock or Yawn
- White Smoke is good enough as is, so there's no real reason to run Shell Armor anyway

Not quite finished yet btw, figuring out teammates and such.

dragonboy52 · Dec 27th, 2011, 2:39:25 PM

You should mention teammates in Additional Comments.

shnen · Dec 27th, 2011, 3:43:36 PM

o.O

Also you might wanna change the title

breh · Dec 27th, 2011, 6:11:35 PM

camerupt in C/C?

also, shell armor torkoal is available (with SR, even) but, as you said, you must forgo yawn. just nix the DW section entirely.

EDIT: actually, maybe put it in OO and mention that you have to run toxic over yawn. white smoke is kind of useless and at least you get the security that nothing bar pinsir EQs will ever crit you.

Ice-eyes · Dec 27th, 2011, 7:51:26 PM

Does what it says on the shell.

Omicron · Dec 27th, 2011, 9:16:59 PM

lol

QC APPROVED (2/3)

tennisace · Dec 28th, 2011, 2:35:33 PM

yep

Dec 27th, 2011, 2:29:29 PM	#1
Limi Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 237 Germany	Torkoal [QC 3/3] Oh god, I'm incredibly late. [Overview] - one of the very few spinners in NU - physically very bulky - edgy typing - slow as molasses - throws your momentum out of the window [SET] name: Spin Support move 1: Rapid Spin move 2: Lava Plume move 3: Stealth Rock move 4: Yawn item: Leftovers ability: White Smoke nature: Bold evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD [SET COMMENTS] - Rapid Spin is the crux of this set and Torkoal's niche - Lava Plume to actually pose a threat - rocks for further team support - Yawn so you aren't complete set-up fodder [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] - reaches 344 HP and 416 Def, incredible physical bulk - no recovery outside of lefties, wish support is a valuable option - waters of all kinds scare it, especially special attacking ones - in fact, any strong special attack will leave a dent in it - can take random stone edges and the likes fairly well, still should switch out at the sight of rhydon [Other Options] - Rest, possibly Sleep Talk, to increase longevity (Heal Bell support?), you'll turn into set-up fodder, though - Shell Smash would be a good move for any Pokemon to have, but Torkoal is way too slow to sweep (reaches 304 max) and is outclassed by Magcargo of all things - Toxic and WoW cripple certain threats [Checks and Counters] - specially attacking waters (Gorebyss, Slowking, Lanturn etc.) are its biggest foes - Camerupt won't mind anything but Yawn and hits back hard with Earth Power - physical waters and rocks (Quagsire, Regirock, Rhydon) pose a huge threat, too, but have to be wary of lava plume - Misdreavus blocks its spins, taunts it and slowly kills it with Shadow Ball [Dream World] - Shell Armor is an OK ability, but in the end it doesn't do enough to warrant the loss of moves like Stealth Rock or Yawn - White Smoke is good enough as is, so there's no real reason to run Shell Armor anyway Not quite finished yet btw, figuring out teammates and such. __________________ Last edited by Limi; Dec 28th, 2011 at 12:12:08 PM.

Dec 27th, 2011, 2:39:25 PM	#2
dragonboy52 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,964	You should mention teammates in Additional Comments. __________________

Dec 27th, 2011, 6:11:35 PM	#4
breh Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,960	camerupt in C/C? also, shell armor torkoal is available (with SR, even) but, as you said, you must forgo yawn. just nix the DW section entirely. EDIT: actually, maybe put it in OO and mention that you have to run toxic over yawn. white smoke is kind of useless and at least you get the security that nothing bar pinsir EQs will ever crit you. __________________ VGC Regionals: VGC11 Top 16, VGC12 12th Place Last edited by breh; Dec 27th, 2011 at 7:55:48 PM.

Dec 27th, 2011, 9:16:59 PM	#6
Omicron Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,040 Seattle, WA	lol QC APPROVED (2/3) __________________

Dec 28th, 2011, 2:35:33 PM	#7
tennisace RIDE OR DIE MOTHERFUCKERS ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,347	yep __________________ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ

Dec 27th, 2011, 3:43:36 PM	#3
shnen ףאקשהצתלך Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 830 London	o.O Also you might wanna change the title

Dec 27th, 2011, 7:51:26 PM	#5
Ice-eyes Simper Fi Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,658	Does what it says on the shell.