Rotom-F (QC 2/3)

**Raseri** · Oct 27th, 2011, 10:46:54 PM

[OVERVIEW]

Arguably the best offensive typing in the game
Not sure what to put here, it's a fridge that decimates RU
One of the best Hail Pokemon in RU
Very underrated, getting next to no usage

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Blizzard
move 2: Volt Switch
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
nature: Modest / Timid
EVS: 4Def/252 SpAtt/252 Spe

[SET Comments]

Specs set can OHKO or 2HKO most threats in the metagame
Hail support turns him into one of the best wallbreakers in the tier
Volt Switch allows you to gain momentum with ease
Choice Scarf allows to revenge kill offensive threats
Trick lets you cripple a wall with a useless item

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

EVs are for maximum speed and power
Works well with something that can remove Very fast or bulky Pokemon.
Needs Snover to function efficiently

[SET]
name: SubSplit
move 1: Blizzard
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Pain Split
item: Life Orb/Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Can take advantage of switches unlike choice Rotom-F
Pain Split provides semi-reliable recovery, allowing Rotom-F to live longer
Needs Snover to make Blizzard reliable
Can dismantle most stall teams

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

A bulkier set can be used but the drop in speed and power is noticable
Can be used without Snover support but its viability drops greatly

[OTHER OPTIONS]

A defensive set is outclassed by other Rotom forms
Dual Screens are outclassed by Cryogonal
Can run a Hidden Power [Grass] to hit Lanturn
A Life Orb can be used to switch moves more freely.

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]

Eviolite Magneton can threaten with Flash Cannon
Specially Defensive Lanturn can hit Rotom-F with Toxic or Scald
Faster Scarfers like Primeape can OHKO
Choice Band Entei does a lot with Extremespeed

This is my first attempt at an analysis so any constructive criticism is appreciated, I'm not exactly sure on the format so any help with that would be nice too

Omicron · Oct 27th, 2011, 10:52:59 PM

Add a SubSplit set. It is easily Rotom-F's most dangerous set.

Something like this:

[SET]
name: SubSplit
move 1: Blizzard
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Pain Split
item: Life Orb
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

But like the other set, it definitely needs hail support from Snover to function effectively.

col49 · Oct 28th, 2011, 11:22:06 PM

Maybe mention Hp Ground/Fire in the OO. Hp Fire can threaten Magneton and opposing Rotom-F's, while Hp Ground hits Magneton/Lanturn. Also, Sub-Charge is fairly viable imo.

Edit: Magenton's Flash Cannon isn't getting an SE hit due to the Electric subtype, so I would say that just mentioning Magneton resisting BoltBeam and being bulky enough to beat him w/Eviolite is sufficient. Minor nitpicking, but that's what I do :P

**PK Gaming** · Oct 29th, 2011, 11:35:59 AM

I'd expand on the overview and change your format a bit (you don't really need all of those spaces, look at other analysis for the right format)

I'd also add a Subslit set. STAB Boltbeam can cause a ton of switches and its difficult (if note impossible at times) to straight up counter.

name: SubSplit
move 1: Blizzard
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Pain Split
item: Life orb / leftovers
nature: Timid
EVS: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 spe

Windsong · Nov 3rd, 2011, 10:54:51 PM

Slash Lefties on the Subsplit set, and mention that spinners are really cool partners for the choice set. Hell, I'd in general expand a tiny bit on the AC beyond "use Snover".

With that being said, it looks like you've got most stuff covered.

QC Approved 1/3

ParaChomp · Nov 4th, 2011, 9:46:28 AM

I would slash an attack of a different type over Thunderbolt on the Choice Set (though I don't know what). Also, I would put Timid nature before Modest since the item goes Choice Specs than Choice Scarf.

SuperJOCKE · Nov 4th, 2011, 10:08:41 AM

Isn't a mention of Hidden Power Ice worth something? Sure, it's a pretty weak STAB compared to Blizzard (and Ice Beam that Rotom-F doesn't get), but it has better accuracy than Blizzard. Maybe if you use Rotom-F outside of hail, I don't know.

***Oglemi**** · Nov 4th, 2011, 7:18:56 PM

QC APPROVED 2/3

Honko · Nov 6th, 2011, 7:41:45 PM

Very minor thing, but you should put the 4 extra EVs in SpD instead of Def so Download Porygon-Z doesn't get a SpA boost.

QC APPROVED 3/3

zdrup15 · Nov 15th, 2011, 11:16:56 AM

Make SubSplit the first set, it can destroy some of the greatest threats to hail teams such as Slowking and slow Cryos (aka each and everyone of them except mine that outspeeds rotom-f by a point xD) and is just overall beastly.

**sandshrewz** · Nov 15th, 2011, 11:29:55 AM

You mentioned Magneton with Flash Cannon in Check and Counters. I think you meant HP fire? Flash Cannon hits for neutral damage only iirc.

**Molk** · Nov 15th, 2011, 11:40:30 AM

this is a minor thing, but maybe change the defense evs the special defense so download raises attack.

~~Fried Rhys~~ · Nov 16th, 2011, 4:48:53 PM

yea like zdrup said, subsplit should be the first set. it wrecks, and choice has to deal with stealth rock and doesn't make the most of the great coverage, since it's locked in a lot of the time.

Omicron · Nov 16th, 2011, 6:00:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat ParaChomp

Not too useful but worth mentioning. While under the effects of Gravity, Smack Down and/or Iron Ball, Rotom-F doesn't gain a weakness to Ground but neutrality to it.

What are you talking about Ice doesn't resist Ground lol

And that's so situational it doesn't really warrant a mention

ParaChomp · Nov 16th, 2011, 6:08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Omicron

What are you talking about Ice doesn't resist Ground lol

And that's so situational it doesn't really warrant a mention

Gah, I keep getting Freezer and Fan mixed up! Also, yes it is quite situational. I really have nothing else to say but I agree that SubSpilt should come before Choice. I also find that the SubSpilt is reliant on forcing out a switch due to it having no defensive investments.

***Oglemi**** · Nov 25th, 2011, 4:37:47 PM

this was taken over i guess so locking and moving

Oct 27th, 2011, 10:46:54 PM	#1
Raseri I'm a leaf on the wind; watch how i soar Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,809 Mentor	Rotom-F (QC 2/3) [OVERVIEW] Arguably the best offensive typing in the game Not sure what to put here, it's a fridge that decimates RU One of the best Hail Pokemon in RU Very underrated, getting next to no usage [SET] name: Choice move 1: Blizzard move 2: Volt Switch move 3: Thunderbolt move 4: Trick item: Choice Specs / Choice Scarf nature: Modest / Timid EVS: 4Def/252 SpAtt/252 Spe [SET Comments] Specs set can OHKO or 2HKO most threats in the metagame Hail support turns him into one of the best wallbreakers in the tier Volt Switch allows you to gain momentum with ease Choice Scarf allows to revenge kill offensive threats Trick lets you cripple a wall with a useless item [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] EVs are for maximum speed and power Works well with something that can remove Very fast or bulky Pokemon. Needs Snover to function efficiently [SET] name: SubSplit move 1: Blizzard move 2: Thunderbolt move 3: Substitute move 4: Pain Split item: Life Orb/Leftovers nature: Timid evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Can take advantage of switches unlike choice Rotom-F Pain Split provides semi-reliable recovery, allowing Rotom-F to live longer Needs Snover to make Blizzard reliable Can dismantle most stall teams [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] A bulkier set can be used but the drop in speed and power is noticable Can be used without Snover support but its viability drops greatly [OTHER OPTIONS] A defensive set is outclassed by other Rotom forms Dual Screens are outclassed by Cryogonal Can run a Hidden Power [Grass] to hit Lanturn A Life Orb can be used to switch moves more freely. [CHECKS AND COUNTERS] Eviolite Magneton can threaten with Flash Cannon Specially Defensive Lanturn can hit Rotom-F with Toxic or Scald Faster Scarfers like Primeape can OHKO Choice Band Entei does a lot with Extremespeed This is my first attempt at an analysis so any constructive criticism is appreciated, I'm not exactly sure on the format so any help with that would be nice too __________________ best Quality Control member 2012 Last edited by Raseri; Nov 4th, 2011 at 8:15:19 PM.

Oct 27th, 2011, 10:52:59 PM	#2
Omicron Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,040 Seattle, WA	Add a SubSplit set. It is easily Rotom-F's most dangerous set. Something like this: [SET] name: SubSplit move 1: Blizzard move 2: Thunderbolt move 3: Substitute move 4: Pain Split item: Life Orb nature: Timid evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe But like the other set, it definitely needs hail support from Snover to function effectively. __________________ Last edited by Omicron; Oct 28th, 2011 at 7:06:12 PM.

Oct 28th, 2011, 11:22:06 PM	#3
col49 it was always a long shot Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 788 planet fickle	Maybe mention Hp Ground/Fire in the OO. Hp Fire can threaten Magneton and opposing Rotom-F's, while Hp Ground hits Magneton/Lanturn. Also, Sub-Charge is fairly viable imo. Edit: Magenton's Flash Cannon isn't getting an SE hit due to the Electric subtype, so I would say that just mentioning Magneton resisting BoltBeam and being bulky enough to beat him w/Eviolite is sufficient. Minor nitpicking, but that's what I do :P __________________ Tehy: like i get the feeling you're pro or something Tehy: but Tehy: on this ladder Tehy: it's so fucking hard to tell Last edited by col49; Nov 3rd, 2011 at 11:42:02 PM.

Oct 29th, 2011, 11:35:59 AM	#4
PK Gaming Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,562 Sumuru city	I'd expand on the overview and change your format a bit (you don't really need all of those spaces, look at other analysis for the right format) I'd also add a Subslit set. STAB Boltbeam can cause a ton of switches and its difficult (if note impossible at times) to straight up counter. name: SubSplit move 1: Blizzard move 2: Thunderbolt move 3: Substitute move 4: Pain Split item: Life orb / leftovers nature: Timid EVS: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 spe __________________

Nov 4th, 2011, 10:08:41 AM	#7
SuperJOCKE Lowtier Warrior! Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,003 Location: Sweden Mentor	Isn't a mention of Hidden Power Ice worth something? Sure, it's a pretty weak STAB compared to Blizzard (and Ice Beam that Rotom-F doesn't get), but it has better accuracy than Blizzard. Maybe if you use Rotom-F outside of hail, I don't know. __________________

Nov 3rd, 2011, 10:54:51 PM	#5
Windsong better split before I catch folgorio-itis Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 831 elsewhere	Slash Lefties on the Subsplit set, and mention that spinners are really cool partners for the choice set. Hell, I'd in general expand a tiny bit on the AC beyond "use Snover". With that being said, it looks like you've got most stuff covered. QC Approved 1/3

Nov 4th, 2011, 9:46:28 AM	#6
ParaChomp Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 596 Row! Row! Fight the power!	I would slash an attack of a different type over Thunderbolt on the Choice Set (though I don't know what). Also, I would put Timid nature before Modest since the item goes Choice Specs than Choice Scarf.

Nov 4th, 2011, 7:18:56 PM	#8
*Oglemi they call me... THE OGLEBOMB Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,571 ~(^.^)~	QC APPROVED 2/3 __________________ <shade> what an intense scrotum

Nov 6th, 2011, 7:41:45 PM	#9
Honko pronounced "Honko" Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,042	Very minor thing, but you should put the 4 extra EVs in SpD instead of Def so Download Porygon-Z doesn't get a SpA boost. QC APPROVED 3/3 __________________

Nov 15th, 2011, 11:16:56 AM	#10
zdrup15 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,723	Make SubSplit the first set, it can destroy some of the greatest threats to hail teams such as Slowking and slow Cryos (aka each and everyone of them except mine that outspeeds rotom-f by a point xD) and is just overall beastly.

Nov 15th, 2011, 11:29:55 AM	#11
sandshrewz 穿山鼠 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,513 ASIA Mentor	You mentioned Magneton with Flash Cannon in Check and Counters. I think you meant HP fire? Flash Cannon hits for neutral damage only iirc. __________________ Member of the GP Team- VM for a check / stamp! Smogon Sprite Generator \|\| Chinese Translation Project \|\| Art Thread \|\| NU Sun \| NU Rain

Nov 15th, 2011, 11:40:30 AM	#12
Molk Recipe for swag Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,324 Long Island	this is a minor thing, but maybe change the defense evs the special defense so download raises attack. __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang 10:33 skylight molk put me in your sig

Nov 16th, 2011, 4:48:53 PM	#13
~~Fried Rhys~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 464 North Carolina	yea like zdrup said, subsplit should be the first set. it wrecks, and choice has to deal with stealth rock and doesn't make the most of the great coverage, since it's locked in a lot of the time.

Nov 25th, 2011, 4:37:47 PM	#16
*Oglemi they call me... THE OGLEBOMB Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,571 ~(^.^)~	this was taken over i guess so locking and moving __________________ <shade> what an intense scrotum