Pokemon of the Month [December: Murkrow]

**Solace*** · Oct 29th, 2011, 9:30:43 PM

So, since you all seemed to like the Pokemon of the Month idea a ton, this month's Pokemon is Murkrow. Murkrow has a ton of options for use, so it's going to be fun to see what everyone comes up with :)

I'm working out with a few people some prizes from trade threads, and if we get enough interest we'll see what other prizes we can get together :D

Baz Anderson · Oct 29th, 2011, 11:45:58 PM

Would time be given for those who like to breed/train Pokémon, as opposed to hack them? This is the GBU after all.

**Solace*** · Oct 30th, 2011, 11:52:19 AM

yeah, it would be about 1 week to get the Pokemon ready, then it would begin.

muffinhead · Oct 30th, 2011, 12:40:16 PM

solace and i have come up with november's pokemon of the month:
GALLADE
any set works, just as long as you use it like a bouse.
post battle vids of your gallade conquests here :D!

~~Nickscor~~ · Oct 30th, 2011, 3:44:44 PM

Gallade, huh?

Time to hit up Pokecheck, in the meantime I'll think of some sets for him. Shadow Sneak is a must.

Sprocket · Oct 30th, 2011, 4:18:17 PM

Gallade, eh? I have to admit, it's my favorite in-game catcher, using Mean Look, Hypnosis, Swords Dance, and False Swipe. Too bad that set isn't terribly useful on GBU :P

I bet I can come up with something.

soul_survivor · Oct 30th, 2011, 8:30:18 PM

Hmmm walls fighting pokemon, nice sp.def access to encore, and feint, slow enough for trickroom, fast enough for tailwind. This is gonna be interesting

Superpokemon67 · Oct 30th, 2011, 8:41:42 PM

This looks cool. I won't be training a Gallade, as I'm practicing for VGCs, but I will certainly follow this thread and try to come up with some sets.

Baz Anderson · Oct 30th, 2011, 8:53:38 PM

I always wanted to do a Gallade with Focus Punch and Destiny Bond to play around with. I don't know if I can be bothered to breed on HeartGold though, I don't have much of a good IV pool on there like I do on Black.

Sprocket · Oct 30th, 2011, 9:01:49 PM

The amount of support moves that Gallade has access to is crazy, not to mention it's resistances to fighting and rock, both very common attack types. If only it had a little bit in the way of physical defenses.

Sprocket · Oct 31st, 2011, 1:41:17 AM

It's probably a complete waste of Gallade's offensive abilities and other Pokemon can pull the same set off better, but he's capable of running a pure utility/support set in Doubles/Triples.

Gallade @ Leftovers
Ability: Steadfast
Bold / Impish, 252 HP / 252 Def / 4SpDef
-Trick Room
-Imprison
-Protect
-Helping Hand / Shadow Sneak / other

I mean seriously, how many people are going to expect Gallade to be a Utility Pokemon? He wouldn't be very high on my list of Pokemon to hit with a Taunt.

Imprison + Protect is a very mean combo in Doubles/Triples, since as long as it's out, no opposing Pokemon can use Protect. That followed by Helping Hand often spells doom. If a non-attacking Gallade isn't to your liking, use an Impish nature and Shadow Sneak or another physical attack. Trick Room is there to help set it up, as well as Imprison it.

EVs are to provide Gallade with as much physical bulk as possible, since it desperately needs it.

The reason to use this over Musharna (who can pull this off with Telepathy) or Cresselia (a very, very well known utility Pokemon) is that it's unexpected; most opponents will expect an attacking Gallade, and not a defensive/utility Gallade. Gallade also has a secondary Fighting type, which renders Bug and Dark attacks neutral (which helps survive many attacks better than the previously mentioned duo), as well as it's somewhat higher base speed for helping get off an Imprison first (outside of Trick Room).

coolbiz · Oct 31st, 2011, 8:35:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Nickscor

Gallade, huh?

Time to hit up Pokecheck, in the meantime I'll think of some sets for him. Shadow Sneak is a must.

Im doin the exact same thing yo!

~Golden Emp · Oct 31st, 2011, 11:22:02 PM

Gallade @LO
Adamant
[Steadfast]
EV's: 252 atk....ehhmmm....filler :P
-Psycho Cut
-Lead Blade/Low Kick
-Protect
-Shadow Sneak

I think that would be the standard Gallade I've played against.

bluemon · Nov 1st, 2011, 4:12:22 AM

hell yea im using the bulk up set with ice punch, drain punch, and shadow sneak.

coolbiz · Nov 1st, 2011, 6:55:35 PM

Scarf destiny bond set with justifies, they dont see it comin.

Sprocket · Nov 1st, 2011, 9:08:44 PM

OK yeah, my support set posted above is terrible, Gardevoir with Telepathy and Helping Hand pretty much outclasses it (except versus dark and bug attacks). It's certainly enough to catch opponents off guard, but it's gimmicky.

Might need to play around with an attacking variant.

DreamTalon · Nov 8th, 2011, 7:01:09 PM

Gallade (M) @ White Herb
Trait: Steadfast
EVs:244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Trick Room
- Close Combat
- Zen Headbutt
- Protect

Best pokemon ever. I enjoy using it as a Trick Room counter and user, as it can be used on a standard team with its ability and speed tier.

lucariojr · Nov 19th, 2011, 12:25:33 PM

I've been fucked over by my own Trick Room before with Steadfast, so Justified is better for Trick Room unless you're using a 4th gen exclusive like Ice Punch.

soul_survivor · Nov 19th, 2011, 12:31:52 PM

Well I've been running this:

Gallade@focussash
brave
252hp,252atk

Encore
C.C
Psycho cut
feint

Simple, but effective. Have him in trickroom, and encore all of those protects. Then feint to break their next protect, and attack with partner.

DreamTalon · Nov 19th, 2011, 5:35:40 PM

Lucariojr, Justified is Dream World, not sure if it is released yet. I don't think it is.

iss · Nov 19th, 2011, 8:25:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat DreamTalon

Lucariojr, Justified is Dream World, not sure if it is released yet. I don't think it is.

I think he knows it's Dream World, he specifically mentioned Gen 4 tutors.

And yes, it is released.

**Solace*** · Nov 19th, 2011, 9:45:18 PM

Yeah, Justified was released when DW Ralts was released, but obviously it doesn't have access to any 4th Gen Tutor moves.

DreamTalon · Nov 20th, 2011, 11:17:56 AM

Oh yeah, no Zen Headbutt makes it less of an offensive threat.

**Solace*** · Nov 20th, 2011, 12:21:58 PM

I believe it still has access to Psycho Cut and CC, so it still has strong offense.

**Solace*** · Dec 6th, 2011, 9:35:44 PM

alright, working on a december pokemon should be up soon!

Oct 29th, 2011, 9:30:43 PM	#1
Solace* i was born to save the doctor Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,975 i love #thatPOWER Mentor	Pokemon of the Month [December: Murkrow] So, since you all seemed to like the Pokemon of the Month idea a ton, this month's Pokemon is Murkrow. Murkrow has a ton of options for use, so it's going to be fun to see what everyone comes up with :) I'm working out with a few people some prizes from trade threads, and if we get enough interest we'll see what other prizes we can get together :D __________________ when ppl are like ‘the new pokemon are so unoriginal and dumb’ im like?? ? ? celebi was a flying onion Last edited by Solace; Feb 8th, 2012 at 12:51:38 PM.

Oct 30th, 2011, 11:52:19 AM	#3
Solace* i was born to save the doctor Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,975 i love #thatPOWER Mentor	yeah, it would be about 1 week to get the Pokemon ready, then it would begin. __________________ when ppl are like ‘the new pokemon are so unoriginal and dumb’ im like?? ? ? celebi was a flying onion

Oct 30th, 2011, 12:40:16 PM	#4
muffinhead b202 wifi vgc Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 933 wow, fantastic baby	solace and i have come up with november's pokemon of the month: GALLADE any set works, just as long as you use it like a bouse. post battle vids of your gallade conquests here :D! __________________ [ vgc youtube \| stream ] 12:49:41 JRank lol i've still won more than you guys have 12:49:47 JRank i'll win with whatever team wins geee geee spreads um

Oct 30th, 2011, 4:18:17 PM	#6
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	Gallade, eh? I have to admit, it's my favorite in-game catcher, using Mean Look, Hypnosis, Swords Dance, and False Swipe. Too bad that set isn't terribly useful on GBU :P I bet I can come up with something. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Oct 30th, 2011, 8:30:18 PM	#7
soul_survivor Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 876 StatenIsland, NY	Hmmm walls fighting pokemon, nice sp.def access to encore, and feint, slow enough for trickroom, fast enough for tailwind. This is gonna be interesting __________________ FC: 2709 6546 0200

Oct 29th, 2011, 11:45:58 PM	#2
Baz Anderson Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 271 Lincoln, England	Would time be given for those who like to breed/train Pokémon, as opposed to hack them? This is the GBU after all.

Oct 30th, 2011, 3:44:44 PM	#5
~~Nickscor~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 728 I did my best, I have no regrets!	Gallade, huh? Time to hit up Pokecheck, in the meantime I'll think of some sets for him. Shadow Sneak is a must.

Oct 30th, 2011, 8:41:42 PM	#8
Superpokemon67 Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 398 PA	This looks cool. I won't be training a Gallade, as I'm practicing for VGCs, but I will certainly follow this thread and try to come up with some sets. __________________ For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

Oct 30th, 2011, 8:53:38 PM	#9
Baz Anderson Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 271 Lincoln, England	I always wanted to do a Gallade with Focus Punch and Destiny Bond to play around with. I don't know if I can be bothered to breed on HeartGold though, I don't have much of a good IV pool on there like I do on Black.

Oct 30th, 2011, 9:01:49 PM	#10
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	The amount of support moves that Gallade has access to is crazy, not to mention it's resistances to fighting and rock, both very common attack types. If only it had a little bit in the way of physical defenses. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Oct 31st, 2011, 1:41:17 AM	#11
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	It's probably a complete waste of Gallade's offensive abilities and other Pokemon can pull the same set off better, but he's capable of running a pure utility/support set in Doubles/Triples. Gallade @ Leftovers Ability: Steadfast Bold / Impish, 252 HP / 252 Def / 4SpDef -Trick Room -Imprison -Protect -Helping Hand / Shadow Sneak / other I mean seriously, how many people are going to expect Gallade to be a Utility Pokemon? He wouldn't be very high on my list of Pokemon to hit with a Taunt. Imprison + Protect is a very mean combo in Doubles/Triples, since as long as it's out, no opposing Pokemon can use Protect. That followed by Helping Hand often spells doom. If a non-attacking Gallade isn't to your liking, use an Impish nature and Shadow Sneak or another physical attack. Trick Room is there to help set it up, as well as Imprison it. EVs are to provide Gallade with as much physical bulk as possible, since it desperately needs it. The reason to use this over Musharna (who can pull this off with Telepathy) or Cresselia (a very, very well known utility Pokemon) is that it's unexpected; most opponents will expect an attacking Gallade, and not a defensive/utility Gallade. Gallade also has a secondary Fighting type, which renders Bug and Dark attacks neutral (which helps survive many attacks better than the previously mentioned duo), as well as it's somewhat higher base speed for helping get off an Imprison first (outside of Trick Room). __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded) Last edited by Sprocket; Oct 31st, 2011 at 2:02:10 AM.

Oct 31st, 2011, 11:22:02 PM	#13
~Golden Emp Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 560 México D.F.	Gallade @LO Adamant [Steadfast] EV's: 252 atk....ehhmmm....filler :P -Psycho Cut -Lead Blade/Low Kick -Protect -Shadow Sneak I think that would be the standard Gallade I've played against. __________________ I'm loving college. I really miss VGC.

Nov 1st, 2011, 4:12:22 AM	#14
bluemon Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,498 ♠ AmoongBro ♠	hell yea im using the bulk up set with ice punch, drain punch, and shadow sneak.

Nov 1st, 2011, 6:55:35 PM	#15
coolbiz Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 625 portal eye'd	Scarf destiny bond set with justifies, they dont see it comin. __________________ My Pokecheck #smogonwifi is a awesome place (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡zıqןooɔ \|\|ʕ ●ᴥ●ʔ \|\| coolbiz ノ( º _ ºノ)

Nov 1st, 2011, 9:08:44 PM	#16
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	OK yeah, my support set posted above is terrible, Gardevoir with Telepathy and Helping Hand pretty much outclasses it (except versus dark and bug attacks). It's certainly enough to catch opponents off guard, but it's gimmicky. Might need to play around with an attacking variant. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Nov 8th, 2011, 7:01:09 PM	#17
DreamTalon Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 186 Dallas, Texas	Gallade (M) @ White Herb Trait: Steadfast EVs:244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Trick Room - Close Combat - Zen Headbutt - Protect Best pokemon ever. I enjoy using it as a Trick Room counter and user, as it can be used on a standard team with its ability and speed tier. __________________ "We must treasure these (Unown), since they are us at our very core... ALSO, DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE WORDS OUT OF THEM? THAT'S PRETTY COOL!!!!!!!!"

Nov 19th, 2011, 12:25:33 PM	#18
lucariojr stranger'n a snake's suspenders, but sweeter'n a stolen kiss Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 952 Mississippi	I've been fucked over by my own Trick Room before with Steadfast, so Justified is better for Trick Room unless you're using a 4th gen exclusive like Ice Punch. __________________ aint i a piece of work

Nov 19th, 2011, 12:31:52 PM	#19
soul_survivor Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 876 StatenIsland, NY	Well I've been running this: Gallade@focussash brave 252hp,252atk Encore C.C Psycho cut feint Simple, but effective. Have him in trickroom, and encore all of those protects. Then feint to break their next protect, and attack with partner. __________________ FC: 2709 6546 0200

Nov 19th, 2011, 5:35:40 PM	#20
DreamTalon Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 186 Dallas, Texas	Lucariojr, Justified is Dream World, not sure if it is released yet. I don't think it is. __________________ "We must treasure these (Unown), since they are us at our very core... ALSO, DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE WORDS OUT OF THEM? THAT'S PRETTY COOL!!!!!!!!"

Nov 19th, 2011, 9:45:18 PM	#22
Solace* i was born to save the doctor Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,975 i love #thatPOWER Mentor	Yeah, Justified was released when DW Ralts was released, but obviously it doesn't have access to any 4th Gen Tutor moves. __________________ when ppl are like ‘the new pokemon are so unoriginal and dumb’ im like?? ? ? celebi was a flying onion

Nov 20th, 2011, 11:17:56 AM	#23
DreamTalon Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 186 Dallas, Texas	Oh yeah, no Zen Headbutt makes it less of an offensive threat. __________________ "We must treasure these (Unown), since they are us at our very core... ALSO, DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE WORDS OUT OF THEM? THAT'S PRETTY COOL!!!!!!!!"

Nov 20th, 2011, 12:21:58 PM	#24
Solace* i was born to save the doctor Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,975 i love #thatPOWER Mentor	I believe it still has access to Psycho Cut and CC, so it still has strong offense. __________________ when ppl are like ‘the new pokemon are so unoriginal and dumb’ im like?? ? ? celebi was a flying onion

Dec 6th, 2011, 9:35:44 PM	#25
Solace* i was born to save the doctor Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,975 i love #thatPOWER Mentor	alright, working on a december pokemon should be up soon! __________________ when ppl are like ‘the new pokemon are so unoriginal and dumb’ im like?? ? ? celebi was a flying onion