OU CCAT: Nidoking Edition - Page 11

Truth or Dare · Nov 17th, 2011, 6:01:10 PM

Are you counting different sets as the same like DD Salamence and mixmence?

**Pocket** · Nov 17th, 2011, 7:03:00 PM

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The Goddamn Batman - I'm not sure if someone nominated this already, as i didnt read all of the posts, but my vote has to go for Choice Scarf Haxorus.

Haxorus @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rivalry
EVs:4 HP/ 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Nature: Adamant / Jolly
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Brick Break
-Dragon Claw

Of course, Mold Breaker could be slashed in over Rivalry, but in general i think the Atk boost is more valuable for wall breaking.

Choice Scarf Haxorus is not available for nomination - please refer to this post and edit your vote. You may select 2 candidates.

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Truth or Dare - Are you counting different sets as the same like DD Salamence and mixmence?

FatMence, MixMence, and DDMence are all separate votes.

Lucalibur · Nov 17th, 2011, 7:05:50 PM

First choice: LO Metagross.

Second choice: LO Nidoking.

DetroitLolcat · Nov 17th, 2011, 11:28:44 PM

DD Scrafty

I like this mon but when I use him it just doesn't work...

**Pocket** · Nov 18th, 2011, 1:04:35 AM

yo, we need more votes!!! The top 2 are really close together (1 pt diff) so I hope more votes would set them apart. Get your votes in within the next ~12 hrs before I finalize our decision :o

Here's the ballot for reference

tehy · Nov 18th, 2011, 1:34:21 AM

Which two are so close?

New World Order · Nov 18th, 2011, 1:38:50 AM

DD Scrafty: This thing is an absolute killing machine. Everybody that has trouble succeeding with this guy is just plain using it wrong. With 2 great abilities, Scrafty can either go on a snowball sweep, or have pseudo immunity to status. With its great bulk, you're really not going to be able to revenge kill the guy unless the move is like a STAB Close Combat or something. Fighting+Dark offer fantastic coverage, resisted only by Heracross and Toxicroak. After a DD, Scrafty can just shred teams apart single handedly. At +1/+1, Scrafty becomes incredibly difficult to take out. The only things that come to mind are Scarf Terrakion, Conkeldurr, and... that is honestly it. Pokemon such as Hippowdon can only temporarily check it, as Scrafty can come back out later in the match. Pokemon such as Skarmory and Virizion just plain don't want to eat a HJK. Once those two are gone, the only thing that can stop it really, is a High Jump Kick miss. I highly encourage everybody to try DD Scrafty out even if it does not get picked.

That being said, I would like to cast Vote 1 for DD Scrafty, Vote 2 for CB Metagross, and Vote 3 for MixMence. If possible, I would also like to cast a negative vote for Zoroark. Seriously guys, this is just embarrasing. Zoroark is an absolutely terrible Pokemon. Way too much needs to be put into designing a camouflage for this to actually work, I mean, you have to come up with a Pokemon neutral to Stealth Rock, weak to Spikes, and capable of using either Dark Pulse, Focus Blast, or Flamethrower, or Nasty Plot. This limits your choices to like what? Infernape. Simply having a Zoroark on a team is extremely hindering to teambuilding, and anybody who voted for this, give your head a shake.

**Pocket** · Nov 18th, 2011, 1:45:01 AM

lol, you make 2 noms, NWO xD I will count your Scrafty and Metagross. Thanks for your enthusiasm!

tehy · Nov 18th, 2011, 2:20:05 AM

DD scrafty lacks power and speed. the bulk's supposed to make up for it, but it fails to IMO. And it either lacks regen or power, depending on which move you pick-HJK is easily abusable by ghosts and protect, and drain punch makes you unable to kill anything. I've found it to basically just be skarmbait.

So, first vote for Mixmence, because, well, who can deny its power?

Second for CB metagross, because i hold a soft spot in my heart for him, and i want to see a bulky CB'er in this meta.

KurashiDragon · Nov 18th, 2011, 3:15:39 AM

Victini and Nidoking have my votes.

Orcinus Duo · Nov 18th, 2011, 5:07:45 AM

Parashuffle dnite
DD scrafty

MMF · Nov 18th, 2011, 11:12:26 AM

Mix Mence gets my first vote

Metagross gets my second vote

Bartman101 · Nov 18th, 2011, 3:32:05 PM

1st vote - CMSub Latias

2nd vote - CM+Reflect type Latias

(Reserve vote (just incase you can't vote for same pokemon twice) Double-Dance Haxorus)

**Pocket** · Nov 18th, 2011, 3:39:48 PM

Since I need more votes and fast to break the clusterfuck at the top choices, votes will be open to everyone. Pick 1 Candidate to CAT.

Here are the top 7:

OU CCAT ballot

Abomasnow (Hail abuse)
Cloyster (Shell Smash)
Dragonite (SubRoost + ParaShuffle)
Kyurem (Substitute + 3 Attacks)
Nidoking (Sheer Force + Life Orb)
Scrafty (Dragon Dance)
Staraptor (Reckless Sweeper)

I will check the polls in ~6 hrs, and I will present the voting results, unless we have any ties. Happy votin!

~~Xephyr~~ · Nov 18th, 2011, 3:41:12 PM

No Darmy :(

I pick Scrafty cause he's a fucking bro.

Eggbert · Nov 18th, 2011, 3:42:36 PM

Cloyster

waterwarrior · Nov 18th, 2011, 3:44:38 PM

Scrafty

Hoodlum lizards are awesome.

Tyranitarphantom · Nov 18th, 2011, 3:57:36 PM

As much as I'd like to vote for poor old Kyurem, I don't see him being popular enough to be picked. Therefore, my vote goes to Scrafty

**AccidentalGreed** · Nov 18th, 2011, 4:00:57 PM

The lack of Haxorus votes astounds me.

Fine then. Staraptor because he's Choice Band Dragonite v2.

Fizz · Nov 18th, 2011, 4:05:48 PM

Scrafty

King Serperior · Nov 18th, 2011, 4:10:06 PM

The one poke to rule them all: Nidoking

OmegaPit · Nov 18th, 2011, 4:11:52 PM

Seeing as I can:

Abomasnow

Thundur · Nov 18th, 2011, 5:06:54 PM

Scrafty

FastFlygon · Nov 18th, 2011, 5:36:49 PM

Staraptor

ThePillsburyDoughBoy · Nov 18th, 2011, 5:54:52 PM

Nidoking

Nov 17th, 2011, 6:01:10 PM	#251
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Nov 17th, 2011, 7:05:50 PM	#253
Lucalibur Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,091 WARE WA KURENAI NO WYVERN!	First choice: LO Metagross. Second choice: LO Nidoking. __________________ EmissaryofDarkness: is u only won beacuse u u use some strange ass tar EmissaryofDarkness: u do realize i am one of the best players on here EmissaryofDarkness: ur a terrible player luke EmissaryofDarkness: any one can win with the element of suprise

Nov 17th, 2011, 11:28:44 PM	#254
DetroitLolcat It's Great! To Be! A Michigan Wolverine! Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,796	DD Scrafty I like this mon but when I use him it just doesn't work... __________________ Favorite Pokemon-Swampert- formerly OU and staying that way. Cats are awesome, the best kind of cat is the Detroit Lion! http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou11556879

Nov 18th, 2011, 1:04:35 AM	#255
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,169 Bergenfield	yo, we need more votes!!! The top 2 are really close together (1 pt diff) so I hope more votes would set them apart. Get your votes in within the next ~12 hrs before I finalize our decision :o Here's the ballot for reference __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Nov 18th, 2011, 1:38:50 AM	#257
New World Order The Baby Arcanine All Grown Up :') Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,893 Edmonton	DD Scrafty: This thing is an absolute killing machine. Everybody that has trouble succeeding with this guy is just plain using it wrong. With 2 great abilities, Scrafty can either go on a snowball sweep, or have pseudo immunity to status. With its great bulk, you're really not going to be able to revenge kill the guy unless the move is like a STAB Close Combat or something. Fighting+Dark offer fantastic coverage, resisted only by Heracross and Toxicroak. After a DD, Scrafty can just shred teams apart single handedly. At +1/+1, Scrafty becomes incredibly difficult to take out. The only things that come to mind are Scarf Terrakion, Conkeldurr, and... that is honestly it. Pokemon such as Hippowdon can only temporarily check it, as Scrafty can come back out later in the match. Pokemon such as Skarmory and Virizion just plain don't want to eat a HJK. Once those two are gone, the only thing that can stop it really, is a High Jump Kick miss. I highly encourage everybody to try DD Scrafty out even if it does not get picked. That being said, I would like to cast Vote 1 for DD Scrafty, Vote 2 for CB Metagross, and Vote 3 for MixMence. If possible, I would also like to cast a negative vote for Zoroark. Seriously guys, this is just embarrasing. Zoroark is an absolutely terrible Pokemon. Way too much needs to be put into designing a camouflage for this to actually work, I mean, you have to come up with a Pokemon neutral to Stealth Rock, weak to Spikes, and capable of using either Dark Pulse, Focus Blast, or Flamethrower, or Nasty Plot. This limits your choices to like what? Infernape. Simply having a Zoroark on a team is extremely hindering to teambuilding, and anybody who voted for this, give your head a shake. __________________ RAWRGRAWRAWWRARRWRAARGRAWWRAWWRAR

Nov 18th, 2011, 1:34:21 AM	#256
tehy Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,155	Which two are so close?

Nov 18th, 2011, 1:45:01 AM	#258
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,169 Bergenfield	lol, you make 2 noms, NWO xD I will count your Scrafty and Metagross. Thanks for your enthusiasm! __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Nov 18th, 2011, 2:20:05 AM	#259
tehy Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,155	DD scrafty lacks power and speed. the bulk's supposed to make up for it, but it fails to IMO. And it either lacks regen or power, depending on which move you pick-HJK is easily abusable by ghosts and protect, and drain punch makes you unable to kill anything. I've found it to basically just be skarmbait. So, first vote for Mixmence, because, well, who can deny its power? Second for CB metagross, because i hold a soft spot in my heart for him, and i want to see a bulky CB'er in this meta.

Nov 18th, 2011, 3:15:39 AM	#260
KurashiDragon Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 754 Where the dragons take me.	Victini and Nidoking have my votes.

Nov 18th, 2011, 5:07:45 AM	#261
Orcinus Duo Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,751 Halcyon days	Parashuffle dnite DD scrafty __________________ typon77: orcinus is sex 13:38 SimonSays Okay, start pulling out. 13:38 SimonSays Let her sleep for the night. Stroke softly the tigers of flame, you've nothing to fear. i'm just the matchmaker

Nov 18th, 2011, 11:12:26 AM	#262
MMF Give me the strength to part this sea Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 534 PM/VM me for an NU rate! Also part of NU QC VM me for a check!	Mix Mence gets my first vote Metagross gets my second vote __________________ 23:18 Annoyer mmf making a post wtf 23:18 Djangoo LOL MMF Posting 23:18 MMF LOL 23:18 MMF damn 23:18 MMF they've got me 23:18 zeb hahahaha

Nov 18th, 2011, 3:32:05 PM	#263
Bartman101 Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,058 Hiatus	1st vote - CMSub Latias 2nd vote - CM+Reflect type Latias (Reserve vote (just incase you can't vote for same pokemon twice) Double-Dance Haxorus) __________________ Who knows when I'll be back... RIP GARY SPEED (1969-2011)

Nov 18th, 2011, 3:39:48 PM	#264
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,169 Bergenfield	Since I need more votes and fast to break the clusterfuck at the top choices, votes will be open to everyone. Pick 1 Candidate to CAT. Here are the top 7: OU CCAT ballot Abomasnow (Hail abuse) Cloyster (Shell Smash) Dragonite (SubRoost + ParaShuffle) Kyurem (Substitute + 3 Attacks) Nidoking (Sheer Force + Life Orb) Scrafty (Dragon Dance) Staraptor (Reckless Sweeper) I will check the polls in ~6 hrs, and I will present the voting results, unless we have any ties. Happy votin! __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official! Last edited by Pocket; Nov 18th, 2011 at 4:20:08 PM.

Nov 18th, 2011, 3:41:12 PM	#265
~~Xephyr~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,097	No Darmy :( I pick Scrafty cause he's a fucking bro.

Nov 18th, 2011, 3:42:36 PM	#266
Eggbert Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,072	Cloyster

Nov 18th, 2011, 3:44:38 PM	#267
waterwarrior Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,641 FREAKING UNICORNS ON FREAKING RAINBOWS	Scrafty Hoodlum lizards are awesome. __________________ CAP ASB <Engineer> dw you should come to america <Engineer> where you can eat burgers and get fat <Destiny_Warrior> 9.9 engi * kingofburgerz [~cgiirc@synIRC-43958468.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #capasb**

Nov 18th, 2011, 3:57:36 PM	#268
Tyranitarphantom Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 357 Kentucky	As much as I'd like to vote for poor old Kyurem, I don't see him being popular enough to be picked. Therefore, my vote goes to Scrafty __________________ My Scramble Challanges, or more importantly, My Pokemon Blue Scramble Challange! Check out Well Seasoned Gaming! Current LPs: Metroid Prime, Pokemon Sapphire, and Illusions of Gaia My main alt on Showdown is Switcheroo When playing on Wifi, I use legal hacks

Nov 18th, 2011, 4:00:57 PM	#269
AccidentalGreed I'll bite off your kneecaps if I ever see a super long post or wall of text. Seriously. Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,024 California	The lack of Haxorus votes astounds me. Fine then. Staraptor because he's Choice Band Dragonite v2. __________________

Nov 18th, 2011, 4:05:48 PM	#270
Fizz Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 801	Scrafty __________________ I'm on the Grammar-Prose Team; feel free to message me if you'd like to have something checked.

Nov 18th, 2011, 4:10:06 PM	#271
King Serperior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,827 I am an "Andalite Bandit." Shiver in fear while you can, Yeerks. We're coming for you!	The one poke to rule them all: Nidoking __________________ CAP ASB Team Read the Animorphs here. Seriously, click the link if you're a fan or are interested!! Notice: will be inactive for a day or two. Shouldn't be more than 2 days.. Sorry, please forgive me.

Nov 18th, 2011, 4:11:52 PM	#272
OmegaPit Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 14 Under a table	Seeing as I can: Abomasnow __________________ My Channel

Nov 18th, 2011, 5:06:54 PM	#273
Thundur Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 436 in a galaxy far, far away...	Scrafty __________________ nope

Nov 18th, 2011, 5:36:49 PM	#274
FastFlygon Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 399	Staraptor __________________ From Hell's Heart I Stab at Thee

Nov 18th, 2011, 5:54:52 PM	#275
ThePillsburyDoughBoy Ttar by Doughboy Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 953 Mentor	Nidoking __________________ Check Out the 1 vs 1 Metagame: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3483807