RU CCAT (STEP 4 - PLAYTESTING)

zdrup15 · Oct 27th, 2011, 4:45:56 PM

Hey guys, have you heard that two heads are better than one? If so, I think you'll accept that a WHOLE FORUM OF HEADS is better than one xD Intrigued? Great, now let's get started!

CCAT is a project where a forum builds a team together. This means there will be many steps and the community will decide what's best in each and every one of them.

And no, I didn't think about bringing this back from Generation 4, I saw Little Cup was doing one and thought it was a great idea for RarelyUsed too.

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STEP 1: We choose the Pokemon around which we'll build the team. You can select any Pokemon legal in RU but make sure it is viable. You can also suggest the set for it. After we have 10 suggestions, we'll have a poll to choose the main Pokemon of our team!

STEP 2: We select the type of team we'll build aka Bulky Offense, Stall, Hyper Offense, etc.

STEP 3: We choose the teammates for the selected Pokemon based on the most voted type of team.

STEP 4: We test the team and write a RMT to show Smogon what RU really is!!!

So yeah guys, let's start this! Suggest one Pokemon and its set!

Foster · Oct 27th, 2011, 4:55:31 PM

So far, this round of RU is mostly heavy offense. I've been using the following set with great success so far on the ladder:

Sceptile (M) @ Grass Gem
Trait: Unburden
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Rock Slide
- Acrobatics

The moveset can obviously be tweaked a little, but this thing is an absolute monster. With proper team support it can easily sweep teams as no one prepares for it.

Texas Cloverleaf · Oct 27th, 2011, 5:15:15 PM

Suggesting Cryogonal

Cryogonal @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Recover
- Rapid Spin

Despite the SR weakness its actually a really good spinner and awesome (yes, spelled it right for once) special wall. Its excellent speed is great too if a weakened Claydol/Sanslash/etc are trying to last ditch spin on you, preventing that from happening. Also walls Hail hard, and Rain in large part.

Amarillo · Oct 27th, 2011, 5:17:48 PM

Something to start off a team.. stall teams aren't so hot now, so something that fits into both Bulky / Heavy Offense:

Lilligant @ Leftovers
Chlorophyll
Timid, 92 HP / 224 SpA / 192 Spe
- Quiver Dance
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Aromatherapy

Standard stuff, definitely well-prepared for, but gotta have some trusty standards on the poll, right?

Pearl. · Oct 27th, 2011, 6:10:27 PM

This one's cool as hell:

Porygon-Z @

Adaptability | Timid (+ Spe, - Atk)
EVs: 252 SpA | 4 SpD | 252 Spe

Substitute
Nasty Plot
Tri Attack
Dark Pulse

It's able to hurt both stall, as a Nasty Plot boosted Tri Attack 2HKOs Munchlax, the most specially bulky Pokemon on stall after Stealth Rock damage, and offensive teams, thanks to Substitute, which is, IMO, very important in a Pokemon you want to build a team around. Normal - Dark coverage looks poor, but Porygon-Z is strong enough to muscle its away past most resists, such as Aggron, which has a x4 resist to Tri Attack, but still takes 48% - 56.6% from a boosted one.

Axmaster68 · Oct 27th, 2011, 6:14:57 PM

I love this guy, suggusting him:
Entei @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Fire Blast
- Extrasensory
- Hidden Power [Grass]

This guy destroys anybody who is unprepared for it. Even hits those pesky fighting types hard. A Sub would be really useful for Entei to set up, but no matter what, especially with Entei's bulk, if you play it right your opponent is going to lose something.

Omicron · Oct 27th, 2011, 6:16:25 PM

Best troll ever but it actually works I swear:

Rotom-S @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 240 HP / 200 Def / 56 SDef / 12 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Discharge
- Air Slash
- Confuse Ray
- Pain Split

This thing can actually check Honchkrow pretty well. It resists Brave Bird, and is now neutral to Sucker Punch, courtesy of the ultimate Gamefreak troll, Electric-Flying + Levitate.

Pwnemon · Oct 27th, 2011, 6:17:28 PM

I'm suggesting the obvious to build a team around, but hey:

Medicham @ Choice Scarf
Jolly
Pure Win
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
-HJK
-Zen Butthead
-Rock Slide
-Ice Punch

It's pretty obvious why I would suggest Medicham for this project: with proper team support, Pure Power STAB HJKs will have everybody RUNNING IN TERROR. Furthermore, not only is he easy to use but he can wreck almost everybody with only two-three slots of dedicated support, leaving another two slots available to backup sweepers, something the above suggestions cannot do (except Lilligant but that hardly takes any skill to use whatsoever :P)

Texas Cloverleaf · Oct 27th, 2011, 6:19:07 PM

Throwing my support behing Rotom or Entei, they should be the most interesting to build around. (And hell no @Medicham, that's private property ;)

col49 · Oct 27th, 2011, 7:38:47 PM

I'd personally totally like to see Pearl's PZ as the centerpiece for such a team. Though I'm playing stall in near every team, that doesn't really make for a singular "mvp" poke more often than not :P The raw power produced by NP PZ is just awesome, he doesn't get nearly as much playtime as he deserves, and he can be well supported by various offensively oriented pokes that can allow for a team with a nice offensive build (assuming maybe Dugtrio or Magneton for trapping problematic Steels, but that can be determined at a later time).

Ewil · Oct 27th, 2011, 8:03:38 PM

Since Sableye is gone, maybe this thing can shine, finally:

Duosion @ Eviolite
Trait: Magic Guard

EV: 252 HP/ 252 DEF/ 4 SDEF | SPA

Calm Mind
Recover
HP Fight
Psyschock/ Psychic

It's a good idea to build a sort of stall team for this guys, since the hazards can really helps him to beat down the opponent.

It's like a RU Reuniclus, and he's awesome. I play him and he works very well even when sableye was around.

EDIT: The PZ set looks awesome too

NatGeo · Oct 27th, 2011, 8:07:35 PM

Cofagrigus!

Cofagrigus @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Timid | 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
-Trick Room
-Nasty Plot
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power Fighting

Trick Room is an anti-meta strategy no matter where you look, and Desukaan has the defenses to work with it as well as the offense. I can see other potential teammates that are in RU as well, specifically Slowking and slow Gallade, etc.

col49 · Oct 27th, 2011, 8:26:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zurich

Cofagrigus!

Cofagrigus @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Timid | 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
-Trick Room
-Nasty Plot
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power Fighting

Trick Room is an anti-meta strategy no matter where you look, and Desukaan has the defenses to work with it as well as the offense. I can see other potential teammates that are in RU as well, specifically Slowking and slow Gallade, etc.

Timid?

MMF · Oct 27th, 2011, 8:36:04 PM

I'm gonna suggest either:

Swellow (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 5 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Brave Bird
- U-turn
- Quick Attack

Swellow still has the opportunity to wreck teams and is seriously underrated.

or:

Torterra (M) @ Leftovers/LO
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Rock Polish
- Wood Hammer
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

This is a forgotten set that has the ability to run through a weakened team like nothing. And no one sees it coming.

Windsong · Oct 27th, 2011, 8:38:23 PM

OK, if we don't do SD Sceptile (which I do kind of support, since it's solidly anti meta, really good at cleaning up lategame, and in general is really fun to build teams around) then I think that we should try out this:

Slowking@Life Orb
Quiet | Regenerator
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD

- Trick Room
- Psychic / Psystrike
- Surf
- Flamethrower / Nasty Plot

OTR Slowking is actually really really good. Trick Room is possibly the single most anti meta thing right now, in a metagame dominated heavily by fast and frail attackers, and Slowking's valuable resistances and ability allow it to fit onto teams with relative ease. In addition, most offense teams are really weak to it, and a ton of common teams are unprepared for repeated STAB Psychics, having removed their main resists upon the banning of Alakazam. Finally, I personally think that OTR Slowking would be really fun to build a team around, as there are tons of opportunities to attempt new and unexpected things in this growing and newly developing tier.

MMF · Oct 27th, 2011, 9:07:23 PM

Also I've used that P-Z set before and its amazing. Sweeps teams like no tomorrow and really messes with stall. P-Z's raw power is just devastating.

**Molk** · Oct 27th, 2011, 10:10:44 PM

hmm, what about Gallade, seems like fun

[SET]

set name: Come at me bro
move1: Bulk up
move2: Substitute
move3: Drain Punch
move4: Stone Edge / Shadow Sneak
nature: Careful
evs: 240hp / 40atk / 216spdef / 12 spe

do you want to use bulk up gallade? but are afraid of status/very strong attackers. than Come at me Bro is the set for you, set up sub on status moves/ weaker special attacks and from there bulk up, sub when needed. Drain punch is a reliable STAB move that will help gallade with staying alive, Stone edge allows you to hit almost all the pokemon in the tier (bar claydol) neutrally, seems like something interesting to build a team around.

@ Amarillo, as a stallish player myself i can say that stall is still alive and well, dont discount it yet.

edit: whoops, max# of suggestions, if you want to consider it anyway, than okay.

Paradox · Oct 27th, 2011, 10:29:07 PM

Durant can definitely be pretty cool in this metagame:

Durant @ Life Orb / Leftovers
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Hone Claws
- X-Scissor
- Rock Slide
- Iron Head / Baton Pass

Awesome defensive typing and solid physical bulk, great power and speed, Durant makes a great sweeper once certain checks and counters are removed, Qwilfish for one is really annoying. Iron Head gives another strong STAB while Baton Pass is a handy way to lure checks and counters, could be really neat alongside Dugtrio (or Wynaut for Scarfers).

I really like a lot of the suggestions –*Sceptile is definitely a menace, CM Entei is a beast, and Pory-Z looks really cool, great options to pick from.

HART4FLOON · Oct 27th, 2011, 11:01:14 PM

Altaria @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpDef / 252 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Roost
- Outrage
- Earthquake

Despite that abysmal attack DDance Altaria is a very underestimated sweeper and works great. Perfect coverage (bar Shedinja but no one uses him anyway) as well as surprising power behind Altaria's attack makes him one hell of a Pokemon.

The following isn't really a suggestion but it'd be interesting to see a team built around Archaops as well...

VuvuzelaBzz · Oct 28th, 2011, 1:36:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Windsong

OK, if we don't do SD Sceptile (which I do kind of support, since it's solidly anti meta, really good at cleaning up lategame, and in general is really fun to build teams around) then I think that we should try out this:

Slowking@Life Orb
Quiet | Regenerator
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD

- Trick Room
- Psychic / Psystrike
- Surf
- Flamethrower / Nasty Plot

OTR Slowking is actually really really good. Trick Room is possibly the single most anti meta thing right now, in a metagame dominated heavily by fast and frail attackers, and Slowking's valuable resistances and ability allow it to fit onto teams with relative ease. In addition, most offense teams are really weak to it, and a ton of common teams are unprepared for repeated STAB Psychics, having removed their main resists upon the banning of Alakazam. Finally, I personally think that OTR Slowking would be really fun to build a team around, as there are tons of opportunities to attempt new and unexpected things in this growing and newly developing tier.

I've used TR Slowking, and on a few occasions it worked amazingly, on others it was mediocre. However, the team I used it on was merely for testing and wasn't really built around it. Personally I'd like to see how it would perform in a team that's made for it. If Slowking isn't selected, I feel Sceptile is the way to go.

Twannes · Oct 28th, 2011, 5:02:08 AM

Feraligatr @ Life Orb/Lum Berry
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Dragon Dance

Never tried this set myself (will try it ASAP), but it looks really viable. Force something out, set up a DD or 2 (2 if the opponent tries to paralyse you) and sweep. The listed moves give a good coverage in the tier and definitely sweeps unprepared teams. Jolly nature for extra speed as you will need it.

Chieliee · Oct 28th, 2011, 5:14:19 AM

Krookodile@Choice Scarf
Ability: Moxie
EV's: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
Earthquake
Crunch
Stone Edge
Pursuit

This thing is IMO one of the, if not the best late-game sweeper in RU. Once ground/dark resists are gone, it's often good game. Pursuit can also be utilized early-game to make sweeps for Fighting types easier (Scarf Medicham, for example)

HuntSaboteur · Oct 28th, 2011, 6:44:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Foster

So far, this round of RU is mostly heavy offense. I've been using the following set with great success so far on the ladder:

Sceptile (M) @ Grass Gem
Trait: Unburden
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Rock Slide
- Acrobatics

The moveset can obviously be tweaked a little, but this thing is an absolute monster. With proper team support it can easily sweep teams as no one prepares for it.

Hey, you stole my Sceptile. Otherwise, agree with using that set.

**macle** · Oct 28th, 2011, 10:58:17 AM

Rhydon @ Life Orb
adamant / jolly
- sword dance
- rock polish
- stone edge
- eq
evs: 252 atk / 252 speed / 6 def

one of the most underrated physical sweepers in the tier. Tears through opponent's teams like knife through butter. Just as good as its evolved form so smd. Great typing allowing it to switch in on a lot of moves and use rock polish...

ASteelersMidget · Oct 28th, 2011, 12:35:31 PM

I'd like to suggest Braviary.

Briviary with Choice scarf
Nature Jolly
Ability Sheer Force
Moveset
-Bravebird
-Rock Slide
-Super Power
-U-turn
EV's 252 ATK 252 Speed 4HP

A Strong physical Attacker as well as a good scout and revenge killer. Highly underrated and definitely not used. (I only know myself and one other person who use it)

People need to know how useful it is.

Oct 27th, 2011, 4:55:31 PM	#2
Foster Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 745 CT	So far, this round of RU is mostly heavy offense. I've been using the following set with great success so far on the ladder: Sceptile (M) @ Grass Gem Trait: Unburden EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Swords Dance - Leaf Blade - Rock Slide - Acrobatics The moveset can obviously be tweaked a little, but this thing is an absolute monster. With proper team support it can easily sweep teams as no one prepares for it. __________________ so hazy

Oct 27th, 2011, 5:15:15 PM	#3
Texas Cloverleaf meh Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,338 Ottawa	Suggesting Cryogonal Cryogonal @ Leftovers Trait: Levitate EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Ice Beam - Toxic - Recover - Rapid Spin Despite the SR weakness its actually a really good spinner and awesome (yes, spelled it right for once) special wall. Its excellent speed is great too if a weakened Claydol/Sanslash/etc are trying to last ditch spin on you, preventing that from happening. Also walls Hail hard, and Rain in large part. __________________ C&C/Smog work

Oct 27th, 2011, 6:10:27 PM	#5
Pearl. Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 264	This one's cool as hell: Porygon-Z @ Adaptability \| Timid (+ Spe, - Atk) EVs: 252 SpA \| 4 SpD \| 252 Spe Substitute Nasty Plot Tri Attack Dark Pulse It's able to hurt both stall, as a Nasty Plot boosted Tri Attack 2HKOs Munchlax, the most specially bulky Pokemon on stall after Stealth Rock damage, and offensive teams, thanks to Substitute, which is, IMO, very important in a Pokemon you want to build a team around. Normal - Dark coverage looks poor, but Porygon-Z is strong enough to muscle its away past most resists, such as Aggron, which has a x4 resist to Tri Attack, but still takes 48% - 56.6% from a boosted one.

Oct 27th, 2011, 6:14:57 PM	#6
Axmaster68 Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 698 The place where the Mudkips lie in peace and harmony.	I love this guy, suggusting him: Entei @ Leftovers Trait: Pressure EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Fire Blast - Extrasensory - Hidden Power [Grass] This guy destroys anybody who is unprepared for it. Even hits those pesky fighting types hard. A Sub would be really useful for Entei to set up, but no matter what, especially with Entei's bulk, if you play it right your opponent is going to lose something. __________________ Rage SS Scramble- Chapter 2 up! I have now soloed Whitney with a level 23 Totodile without X items or SE moves! Canceled SS Scramble CAP ASB Team

Oct 27th, 2011, 6:16:25 PM	#7
Omicron Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,041 Seattle, WA	Best troll ever but it actually works I swear: Rotom-S @ Leftovers Trait: Levitate EVs: 240 HP / 200 Def / 56 SDef / 12 Spd Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Discharge - Air Slash - Confuse Ray - Pain Split This thing can actually check Honchkrow pretty well. It resists Brave Bird, and is now neutral to Sucker Punch, courtesy of the ultimate Gamefreak troll, Electric-Flying + Levitate. __________________

Oct 27th, 2011, 5:17:48 PM	#4
Amarillo yellow! Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 713	Something to start off a team.. stall teams aren't so hot now, so something that fits into both Bulky / Heavy Offense: Lilligant @ Leftovers Chlorophyll Timid, 92 HP / 224 SpA / 192 Spe - Quiver Dance - Giga Drain - Hidden Power [Rock] - Aromatherapy Standard stuff, definitely well-prepared for, but gotta have some trusty standards on the poll, right?

Oct 27th, 2011, 6:17:28 PM	#8
Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,956 Maryland	I'm suggesting the obvious to build a team around, but hey: Medicham @ Choice Scarf Jolly Pure Win 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP -HJK -Zen Butthead -Rock Slide -Ice Punch It's pretty obvious why I would suggest Medicham for this project: with proper team support, Pure Power STAB HJKs will have everybody RUNNING IN TERROR. Furthermore, not only is he easy to use but he can wreck almost everybody with only two-three slots of dedicated support, leaving another two slots available to backup sweepers, something the above suggestions cannot do (except Lilligant but that hardly takes any skill to use whatsoever :P) __________________ [11:56pm] Pwnemon: statutory rape and all [11:56pm] bmelts: i have such a huge boner right now [9:28pm] Kadew: pwnemon that signature is like an x marking the spot of treasure, except instead of treasure its a pile of humorous garbage that turtles crapped out

Oct 27th, 2011, 6:19:07 PM	#9
Texas Cloverleaf meh Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,338 Ottawa	Throwing my support behing Rotom or Entei, they should be the most interesting to build around. (And hell no @Medicham, that's private property ;) __________________ C&C/Smog work

Oct 27th, 2011, 7:38:47 PM	#10
col49 somewhat unorthodox Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 757 planet fickle	I'd personally totally like to see Pearl's PZ as the centerpiece for such a team. Though I'm playing stall in near every team, that doesn't really make for a singular "mvp" poke more often than not :P The raw power produced by NP PZ is just awesome, he doesn't get nearly as much playtime as he deserves, and he can be well supported by various offensively oriented pokes that can allow for a team with a nice offensive build (assuming maybe Dugtrio or Magneton for trapping problematic Steels, but that can be determined at a later time). __________________

Oct 27th, 2011, 8:03:38 PM	#11
Ewil Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 427 Italy	Since Sableye is gone, maybe this thing can shine, finally: Duosion @ Eviolite Trait: Magic Guard EV: 252 HP/ 252 DEF/ 4 SDEF \| SPA Calm Mind Recover HP Fight Psyschock/ Psychic It's a good idea to build a sort of stall team for this guys, since the hazards can really helps him to beat down the opponent. It's like a RU Reuniclus, and he's awesome. I play him and he works very well even when sableye was around. EDIT: The PZ set looks awesome too

Oct 27th, 2011, 8:07:35 PM	#12
NatGeo ♭ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,425 ♯	Cofagrigus! Cofagrigus @ Leftovers / Life Orb Timid \| 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA -Trick Room -Nasty Plot -Shadow Ball -Hidden Power Fighting Trick Room is an anti-meta strategy no matter where you look, and Desukaan has the defenses to work with it as well as the offense. I can see other potential teammates that are in RU as well, specifically Slowking and slow Gallade, etc. __________________

Oct 27th, 2011, 8:36:04 PM	#14
MMF Give me the strength to part this sea Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 534 PM/VM me for an NU rate! Also part of NU QC VM me for a check!	I'm gonna suggest either: Swellow (M) @ Toxic Orb Trait: Guts EVs: 252 Atk / 5 Def / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Facade - Brave Bird - U-turn - Quick Attack Swellow still has the opportunity to wreck teams and is seriously underrated. or: Torterra (M) @ Leftovers/LO Trait: Overgrow EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Rock Polish - Wood Hammer - Earthquake - Rock Slide This is a forgotten set that has the ability to run through a weakened team like nothing. And no one sees it coming. __________________ 23:18 Annoyer mmf making a post wtf 23:18 Djangoo LOL MMF Posting 23:18 MMF LOL 23:18 MMF damn 23:18 MMF they've got me 23:18 zeb hahahaha

Oct 27th, 2011, 8:38:23 PM	#15
Windsong Aim for the moon, even if you miss you’ll land among the stars. Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 817 elsewhere	OK, if we don't do SD Sceptile (which I do kind of support, since it's solidly anti meta, really good at cleaning up lategame, and in general is really fun to build teams around) then I think that we should try out this: Slowking@Life Orb Quiet \| Regenerator 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD - Trick Room - Psychic / Psystrike - Surf - Flamethrower / Nasty Plot OTR Slowking is actually really really good. Trick Room is possibly the single most anti meta thing right now, in a metagame dominated heavily by fast and frail attackers, and Slowking's valuable resistances and ability allow it to fit onto teams with relative ease. In addition, most offense teams are really weak to it, and a ton of common teams are unprepared for repeated STAB Psychics, having removed their main resists upon the banning of Alakazam. Finally, I personally think that OTR Slowking would be really fun to build a team around, as there are tons of opportunities to attempt new and unexpected things in this growing and newly developing tier.

Oct 27th, 2011, 9:07:23 PM	#16
MMF Give me the strength to part this sea Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 534 PM/VM me for an NU rate! Also part of NU QC VM me for a check!	Also I've used that P-Z set before and its amazing. Sweeps teams like no tomorrow and really messes with stall. P-Z's raw power is just devastating. __________________ 23:18 Annoyer mmf making a post wtf 23:18 Djangoo LOL MMF Posting 23:18 MMF LOL 23:18 MMF damn 23:18 MMF they've got me 23:18 zeb hahahaha

Oct 27th, 2011, 10:10:44 PM	#17
Molk Recipe for disaster Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,211 Long Island	hmm, what about Gallade, seems like fun [SET] set name: Come at me bro move1: Bulk up move2: Substitute move3: Drain Punch move4: Stone Edge / Shadow Sneak nature: Careful evs: 240hp / 40atk / 216spdef / 12 spe do you want to use bulk up gallade? but are afraid of status/very strong attackers. than Come at me Bro is the set for you, set up sub on status moves/ weaker special attacks and from there bulk up, sub when needed. Drain punch is a reliable STAB move that will help gallade with staying alive, Stone edge allows you to hit almost all the pokemon in the tier (bar claydol) neutrally, seems like something interesting to build a team around. @ Amarillo, as a stallish player myself i can say that stall is still alive and well, dont discount it yet. edit: whoops, max# of suggestions, if you want to consider it anyway, than okay. __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang 10:33 skylight molk put me in your sig

Oct 27th, 2011, 10:29:07 PM	#18
Paradox Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 234	Durant can definitely be pretty cool in this metagame: Durant @ Life Orb / Leftovers Ability: Hustle EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe Jolly Nature - Hone Claws - X-Scissor - Rock Slide - Iron Head / Baton Pass Awesome defensive typing and solid physical bulk, great power and speed, Durant makes a great sweeper once certain checks and counters are removed, Qwilfish for one is really annoying. Iron Head gives another strong STAB while Baton Pass is a handy way to lure checks and counters, could be really neat alongside Dugtrio (or Wynaut for Scarfers). I really like a lot of the suggestions –*Sceptile is definitely a menace, CM Entei is a beast, and Pory-Z looks really cool, great options to pick from.

Oct 27th, 2011, 11:01:14 PM	#19
HART4FLOON Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 273	Altaria @ Life Orb Ability: Natural Cure EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpDef / 252 Spe Nature: Adamant - Dragon Dance - Roost - Outrage - Earthquake Despite that abysmal attack DDance Altaria is a very underestimated sweeper and works great. Perfect coverage (bar Shedinja but no one uses him anyway) as well as surprising power behind Altaria's attack makes him one hell of a Pokemon. The following isn't really a suggestion but it'd be interesting to see a team built around Archaops as well... __________________ [QUOTE=New World Order;3943789] - Celebi is a penis, Tyranitar, Jirachi, and Scizor can take it[endQUOTE] oh baby

Oct 28th, 2011, 5:02:08 AM	#21
Twannes Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 422 Netherlands	Feraligatr @ Life Orb/Lum Berry Ability: Torrent Nature: Jolly 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe - Waterfall - Earthquake - Ice Fang - Dragon Dance Never tried this set myself (will try it ASAP), but it looks really viable. Force something out, set up a DD or 2 (2 if the opponent tries to paralyse you) and sweep. The listed moves give a good coverage in the tier and definitely sweeps unprepared teams. Jolly nature for extra speed as you will need it. __________________ www.youtube.com/user/Blueye95 Every day i'm battlin' OU Peak: #39 RU Peak: #19

Oct 28th, 2011, 5:14:19 AM	#22
Chieliee Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,461	Krookodile@Choice Scarf Ability: Moxie EV's: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe Nature: Adamant/Jolly Earthquake Crunch Stone Edge Pursuit This thing is IMO one of the, if not the best late-game sweeper in RU. Once ground/dark resists are gone, it's often good game. Pursuit can also be utilized early-game to make sweeps for Fighting types easier (Scarf Medicham, for example) __________________ nyuu~ This is the world we live in And these are the hands we're given Use them and lets start trying To make it a place worth living in.

Oct 28th, 2011, 10:58:17 AM	#24
macle ribbit Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,724 Wisconsin Mentor	Rhydon @ Life Orb adamant / jolly - sword dance - rock polish - stone edge - eq evs: 252 atk / 252 speed / 6 def one of the most underrated physical sweepers in the tier. Tears through opponent's teams like knife through butter. Just as good as its evolved form so smd. Great typing allowing it to switch in on a lot of moves and use rock polish... __________________ Art for Articles Help Write In-game Articles

Oct 28th, 2011, 12:35:31 PM	#25
ASteelersMidget Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 46	I'd like to suggest Braviary. Briviary with Choice scarf Nature Jolly Ability Sheer Force Moveset -Bravebird -Rock Slide -Super Power -U-turn EV's 252 ATK 252 Speed 4HP A Strong physical Attacker as well as a good scout and revenge killer. Highly underrated and definitely not used. (I only know myself and one other person who use it) People need to know how useful it is.