event pokes with set natures allowed to be used with different natures

**Molk** · Nov 14th, 2011, 11:11:25 AM

i have been jipped of a win multiple times because pokemon online is letting users make event pokemon with set natures and moves (such as flare blitz entei) use a different nature. Entei can only be adamant with flare blitz, yet a life orb entei outsped and koed pokemon that should outspeed entei multiple times.

imagine timid eruption heatran? timid aura sphere raikou? and so on

just pointing it out

sorry if the wording is confusing, ill explain further entei with flare blitz is only allowed with adamant, yet ive seen jolly ones running around.

**Pocket** · Nov 14th, 2011, 12:09:37 PM

Yea, you should tell a mod when this happens. Entei needs to be Adamant, Raikou needs to be Rash, etc.

Braseg257 · Nov 14th, 2011, 12:35:01 PM

I don't know if heatran learns eruption just via-event but if on PO is permitted to use these pokes like entei and raikou with differents natures, why heatran can be just quiet? for exemple i wanted him in my sand team but i cannot have it except with a quiet nature.

**Pocket** · Nov 14th, 2011, 2:35:52 PM

Although possible on PO a Timid Eruption Heatran, for instance, doesn't exist in "real life," lol, so you would be using an illegitimate monster.

Braseg257 · Nov 14th, 2011, 3:39:10 PM

which is the nature of the alamos darkrai?

***RBG**** · Nov 14th, 2011, 3:41:00 PM

Alamos Darkrai has no set nature.

TM13IceBeam · Nov 18th, 2011, 2:44:32 AM

I remember there was once on the PO server there was a message that said something like "Raikou needs to be Rash in order to use Aura Sphere" or something similar to that.

as for some pictorial proof:

Seth Vilo · Nov 22nd, 2011, 10:08:07 AM

Not to mention the fact that the Crowned Beasts with their new moves and locked natures have to be Shiny. I don't know if this can be implemented, but it's certainly competitively important so you know not to expect Aura Sphere from a Raikou and your Tyranitar is safe, and that your Starmie/Latios/Musketeer outspeeds it unless it's Scarved. I have seen non-shiny Aura Sphere Raikous and people get pissed when I tell them it's an illegal set.

Woodchuck · Nov 27th, 2011, 4:20:33 PM

Aura Sphere Raikou being Shiny-only really isn't that important at all. Sort of like setting all your pokes to female to avoid attract and rivalry, everyone will just make their Raikou shiny to throw off the opponent. The net result is the same thing except everyone has to click one more button.

***Antar**** · Nov 28th, 2011, 12:33:58 PM

This is, in fact, implemented in PO's scripts. So it's conceivable we could modify theirs to suit our purposes.

Don't expect it any time soon--their scripts have a LOT of Mafia and League crap I've got to sift through to get to the gold.

Seth Vilo · Nov 28th, 2011, 11:44:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Woodchuck

Aura Sphere Raikou being Shiny-only really isn't that important at all. Sort of like setting all your pokes to female to avoid attract and rivalry, everyone will just make their Raikou shiny to throw off the opponent. The net result is the same thing except everyone has to click one more button.

It's less a matter of importance as it is of legality. Non-shiny Aura Sphere Raikou is illegal. Yes, you "have to click one more button", but that's what makes it legal. We're trying to simulate the game as much as possible here at Smogon and PO, right? That's part of it.

Nov 14th, 2011, 11:11:25 AM	#1
Molk Recipe for disaster Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,219 Long Island	event pokes with set natures allowed to be used with different natures i have been jipped of a win multiple times because pokemon online is letting users make event pokemon with set natures and moves (such as flare blitz entei) use a different nature. Entei can only be adamant with flare blitz, yet a life orb entei outsped and koed pokemon that should outspeed entei multiple times. imagine timid eruption heatran? timid aura sphere raikou? and so on just pointing it out sorry if the wording is confusing, ill explain further entei with flare blitz is only allowed with adamant, yet ive seen jolly ones running around. __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang 10:33 skylight molk put me in your sig

Nov 14th, 2011, 12:09:37 PM	#2
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,170 Bergenfield	Yea, you should tell a mod when this happens. Entei needs to be Adamant, Raikou needs to be Rash, etc. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Nov 14th, 2011, 12:35:01 PM	#3
Braseg257 Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 407 Italy	I don't know if heatran learns eruption just via-event but if on PO is permitted to use these pokes like entei and raikou with differents natures, why heatran can be just quiet? for exemple i wanted him in my sand team but i cannot have it except with a quiet nature. __________________ Blaziken, you were born as OU, when Lucario and Infernape didn't exist yet. Then, these two make you UU. But now, no more Milotic, Altaria, Moltres for you, but Kyogre, Lugia, Ho-oH, and I think UU have lost its best sweeper. Now, a new challenge is waiting for you, and we will fight for the glory in Ubers together as always we've done BW FC: 3568 2467 3508 Braseg257 trade thread (NOW OPEN)

Nov 14th, 2011, 2:35:52 PM	#4
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,170 Bergenfield	Although possible on PO a Timid Eruption Heatran, for instance, doesn't exist in "real life," lol, so you would be using an illegitimate monster. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Nov 14th, 2011, 3:39:10 PM	#5
Braseg257 Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 407 Italy	which is the nature of the alamos darkrai? __________________ Blaziken, you were born as OU, when Lucario and Infernape didn't exist yet. Then, these two make you UU. But now, no more Milotic, Altaria, Moltres for you, but Kyogre, Lugia, Ho-oH, and I think UU have lost its best sweeper. Now, a new challenge is waiting for you, and we will fight for the glory in Ubers together as always we've done BW FC: 3568 2467 3508 Braseg257 trade thread (NOW OPEN)

Nov 14th, 2011, 3:41:00 PM	#6
*RBG It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. Super Moderator** Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,229 Home: Goshen Scout Reservation	Alamos Darkrai has no set nature. __________________ Alder: N, even if we don't understand each other, that's not a reason to reject each other. There are two sides to an argument. Is there one point of view that has all the answers? Give it some thought.

Nov 18th, 2011, 2:44:32 AM	#7
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,246 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	I remember there was once on the PO server there was a message that said something like "Raikou needs to be Rash in order to use Aura Sphere" or something similar to that. as for some pictorial proof: __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Nov 22nd, 2011, 10:08:07 AM	#8
Seth Vilo Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 424 US East Coast	Not to mention the fact that the Crowned Beasts with their new moves and locked natures have to be Shiny. I don't know if this can be implemented, but it's certainly competitively important so you know not to expect Aura Sphere from a Raikou and your Tyranitar is safe, and that your Starmie/Latios/Musketeer outspeeds it unless it's Scarved. I have seen non-shiny Aura Sphere Raikous and people get pissed when I tell them it's an illegal set. __________________ This is a haiku. Sometimes haiku's do not rhyme. Refrigerator. Professional Lurker since March, 2009 (And it's Vilo: veye-low, like the i in pie) {Projects: How do I pronounce that Pokemon...?; ...}

Nov 27th, 2011, 4:20:33 PM	#9
Woodchuck <Feranfell> punbot irl aka virginity protector Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,650 us best	Aura Sphere Raikou being Shiny-only really isn't that important at all. Sort of like setting all your pokes to female to avoid attract and rivalry, everyone will just make their Raikou shiny to throw off the opponent. The net result is the same thing except everyone has to click one more button. __________________

Nov 28th, 2011, 12:33:58 PM	#10
*Antar Super Moderator** Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,048 DC Metro Area	This is, in fact, implemented in PO's scripts. So it's conceivable we could modify theirs to suit our purposes. Don't expect it any time soon--their scripts have a LOT of Mafia and League crap I've got to sift through to get to the gold. __________________ Codes and Hacks I Use PBR FC: 4898-8739-8815 (See here) Black FC: 4040 5386 0128 / White 2 FC: 4771 3664 7215 My Narrated PBR & Gen V Battles My Trade Thread Convert any sim team to pkms Pokemetrics: A Blog