Christmas (Hail RMT) - Page 2

D4RR3N · Dec 4th, 2011, 11:06:45 AM

This is a really good team, great job you two =]

Scimjara · Dec 4th, 2011, 11:46:45 AM

Used this team before. I really like it good job Delko and Mynism.
The only one problem I had against this team was sub cm water pulse / pshock jirachi under rain. pretty hard to play against other then that solid team.

***Delko**** · Dec 4th, 2011, 3:41:20 PM

Thanks again for the positive feedback guys.

Tangelo, what Mynism is trying to say (in his own special way), is that Dragonite cannot set up on much in this team. And like I said earlier, once it's locked in Outrage it can still be revenge-killed by Ice Shard.

Jets · Dec 4th, 2011, 4:34:31 PM

i have a question. how would you deal with SD scizor once your tran and tenta have fainted?

Bluewind · Dec 4th, 2011, 4:45:49 PM

You should probably pump Abomasnow's SpD (max HP / max SpD), since Starmie, Rotom, Specs Politoed (Tenta takes like 50%, and you won't want to trash Kyurem) and such give you an outrageous amount of problems; while I fail to see too many situations in which the extra Attack comes in handy, especially with Scizor being the most common Pokemon at the moment, with Ferrothorn, Jirachi and Heatran right behind. Using Sassy might be interesting as well, as it allows you to underspeed Tyranitar and use Giga Drain, which means Scald won't be screwing you up and you get an extra source of recovery.

Outside of this, very cool team, good luck.

Tangelo · Dec 4th, 2011, 5:19:52 PM

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How do you deal with DDNite when it comes in on Conk for a DD. Not sure how you play so I can't really suggest anything.

Seems to me you didn't read my post. I never said you had an issue, I'm asking how you deal with it.

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120Atk +2 Guts Conkeldurr (+Atk) Drain Punch vs 4HP/0Def Multiscale Dragonite (Neutral): 20% - 24% (67 - 79 HP). Guaranteed 5HKO.

252Atk +3 Dragonite (+Atk) Outrage vs 196HP/0Def +2 Conkeldurr (Neutral): 72% - 84% (288 - 339 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.

He switches in (+0 vs +1), he DD's as you BU again (+1 vs +2), you drain punch while he DD's on Multiscale (+2 vs +2), and 3HKO's you.

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120Atk +2 Guts Conkeldurr (+Atk) Drain Punch vs 4HP/0Def Dragonite (Neutral): 41% - 49% (135 - 159 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO.

With a little residual damage (on the thing taking all of you rock attacks from the likes of CB Tar and friends), you have issues.

Red Machine · Dec 4th, 2011, 5:41:29 PM

Solid team, nice job :)

May I ask how high you peaked?

**McMeghan** · Dec 4th, 2011, 6:10:42 PM

Delko and Mynism are true boss ♥
(i like that team, i played it, faced it, and liked it)

***Delko**** · Dec 4th, 2011, 6:25:50 PM

Tbh, it's a stupid question to ask how to deal with a threat when pokemon X and Y have been taken out. Answer is, we can't handle Scizor and Jirachi without Heatran or Tentacruel. Although, perhaps Conkeldurr might be able to pull something off, you never know.

Abomasnow has max Attack for the most used pokemon in the period this team was created; Dragonite (and similar pokes). And despite not maximum special bulk, he can still take on Starmie and Rotom-W without to much trouble, and in case we want to take some pressure off Abomasnow, we still have Tentacruel and Kyurem to deal with Politoed (all variants). We'll try to bulkier set thought to see what it gives, thanks for the suggestion.

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Originally Posted by Fat Red Machine

May I ask how high you peaked?

Hehe, Mynism asked me to remove this from the introduction, but let's just say the 1500 benchmark was reached ;)

McMeghan, we love you too !

MetaGross66 · Dec 4th, 2011, 7:29:56 PM

This team is just a beautiful work of art. :D I really like how you guys used Kyurem. I've used it a while ago and the choice sets are just devastating. I'd definitely like to try sub Kyurem now that you guys have sparked my interest.

The only problem I can see this team having is CB Terrakion as it can come in and threaten you with its STABs. Reuniclus isn't going to like taking a CB SE/X-scissor and Conk doesn't like CB Close Combat. I'm sure it can be played around with the two, though. gj and gl to the both of you. ^_^

**dragonuser** · Dec 4th, 2011, 9:00:51 PM

solid team man :]

yee · Dec 5th, 2011, 12:40:02 AM

Just posting to say that you two have done a great job with this team, I was thinking of doing a Hail RMT for Christmas but now I don't have to. It's also really nice to see Kyurem getting well-deserved use.

**Glen** · Dec 5th, 2011, 1:22:49 AM

i absolutely love the pictures

Basti · Dec 5th, 2011, 8:25:12 AM

Oh god, I hate facing this team. In other words, great work!

I don't really have any ideas for improvement, but I never really liked psyshock on reuniclus, it makes it too easy for sd glis to set up on it. You do have 2 solid checks for it though.

Now that I think about it, acrobat could probably stop your team cold, with a little damage on kyurem.

Then again, ice shard + hail dmg. Oh well, you get the idea.

Mynism · Dec 5th, 2011, 11:08:04 AM

Thanks for the love :)

@Tangelo : Dragonite DDs once under neutral weather

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Dragonite DDs twice under neutral weather :

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I can test it under Trick Room if you want

Edit : Im gonna test Blastoise over Tentacruel 'cause Psychoboost Deoxys-S is very annoying..

Tangelo · Dec 5th, 2011, 2:56:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mynism

Thanks for the love :)

@Tangelo : Dragonite DDs once under neutral weather

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Dragonite DDs twice under neutral weather :

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I can test it under Trick Room if you want

Edit : Im gonna test Blastoise over Tentacruel 'cause Psychoboost Deoxys-S is very annoying..

Meant Lefties so Hail wouldn't effect it, but thanks for explaining. One thing I might try is HP Fire > Leech Seed on Aboma since I've noticed it lures in and kills Scizor pretty often, making it easier for Kyurem to sweep.

Omglolitsj · Dec 5th, 2011, 3:11:31 PM

hey delko, u running dem 8 speed ev's on tranny for my scizor D:?, also dem conkelderpz be trollin

Omglolitsj · Dec 5th, 2011, 3:12:53 PM

you need a wish passer of some kind tho, otherwise you won't beat me delko <3 u need to keep ur tentacruel and tranny alive for big threats

***Delko**** · Dec 6th, 2011, 8:04:02 AM

Thanks for the kind words everyone!

We used to have HP Fire > Leech Seed for some time actually (and the funny part was that HP Fire doesn't even OHKO Scizor).
But like I mentioned in an earlier post, Abomasnow kinda needs the bulk it currently has (which it loses when we go mixed). Leech Seed can also heal the other teammembers a bit, kinda like a Wish-passer ;)

sheep · Dec 6th, 2011, 12:43:48 PM

holy shit, why do you constantly post a hail team with a few edits...

you have 10 rmt's that are ALL hail

***Delko**** · Dec 6th, 2011, 1:24:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat sheep

holy shit, why do you constantly post a hail team with a few edits...

you have 10 rmt's that are ALL hail

Haha, what can I say, I like those teams I guess ;)

Arikado · Dec 6th, 2011, 2:03:19 PM

Wow Delko! I remember you rating my first competitive team, which happened to be a hail team. xD

Great job on making such a great team. :)

I Am · Dec 7th, 2011, 1:43:04 AM

Nice team - I love seeing hail, the "underdog" weather come out on top.

APimpNamedSlickback · Dec 8th, 2011, 6:59:35 PM

Hey Delko
Great team.
I think that you should try out the Sub Punch set on Conkeldurr.
Also, Ice Wind Gengar is a nice pokemon, you could consider replacing Reuniclus with him.
Also how did you get those images to be so small?

Kaos · Dec 8th, 2011, 8:02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat APimpNamedSlickback

Hey Delko
Great team.
I think that you should try out the Sub Punch set on Conkeldurr.
Also, Ice Wind Gengar is a nice pokemon, you could consider replacing Reuniclus with him.
Also how did you get those images to be so small?

Subs in damaging weather with pokemon not immune to it are generally not a good idea. You basically are just cutting your own health with no way to get it back. Breloom is a WAY better Sub Puncher anyway. Icy Wind Gengar lol. Gen 4 much?

No more DS means Blastoise loses consideration, yay. He should never have gotten any consideration in the first place though. Blastoise is so outclassed by Tenta; I would hate to see this great team tainted by him.

Thats about it. Sorry I don't have any real advice for this team, it's already so great.

Dec 4th, 2011, 11:06:45 AM	#26
D4RR3N Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 762	This is a really good team, great job you two =] __________________ I'm back :)

Dec 4th, 2011, 11:46:45 AM	#27
Scimjara Bert Stare Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,002 Sesame Street	Used this team before. I really like it good job Delko and Mynism. The only one problem I had against this team was sub cm water pulse / pshock jirachi under rain. pretty hard to play against other then that solid team. __________________

Dec 4th, 2011, 3:41:20 PM	#28
*Delko Chemical Ride Super Moderator** Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,991 Belgium Mentor	Thanks again for the positive feedback guys. Tangelo, what Mynism is trying to say (in his own special way), is that Dragonite cannot set up on much in this team. And like I said earlier, once it's locked in Outrage it can still be revenge-killed by Ice Shard. __________________

Dec 4th, 2011, 4:45:49 PM	#30
Bluewind My appearance, ability, and awesomeness strike fear into the hearts of any sane battler and my thorny vines drop the opposing forces just an iron ball plowing into a man's genitals. Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,304 Bloo's fancy mansion	You should probably pump Abomasnow's SpD (max HP / max SpD), since Starmie, Rotom, Specs Politoed (Tenta takes like 50%, and you won't want to trash Kyurem) and such give you an outrageous amount of problems; while I fail to see too many situations in which the extra Attack comes in handy, especially with Scizor being the most common Pokemon at the moment, with Ferrothorn, Jirachi and Heatran right behind. Using Sassy might be interesting as well, as it allows you to underspeed Tyranitar and use Giga Drain, which means Scald won't be screwing you up and you get an extra source of recovery. Outside of this, very cool team, good luck. __________________ Last edited by Bluewind; Dec 4th, 2011 at 7:00:11 PM.

Dec 5th, 2011, 1:22:49 AM	#38
Glen Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,513	i absolutely love the pictures __________________ nothing about the source or the end

Dec 4th, 2011, 4:34:31 PM	#29
Jets Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 359 "this game sucks"	i have a question. how would you deal with SD scizor once your tran and tenta have fainted?

Dec 4th, 2011, 5:41:29 PM	#32
Red Machine Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 55 Young, Wild, and Free	Solid team, nice job :) May I ask how high you peaked?

Dec 4th, 2011, 6:10:42 PM	#33
McMeghan Dreamcatcher Moderator Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,226 Belgium Mentor	Delko and Mynism are true boss ♥ (i like that team, i played it, faced it, and liked it)

Dec 4th, 2011, 7:29:56 PM	#35
MetaGross66 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 548	This team is just a beautiful work of art. :D I really like how you guys used Kyurem. I've used it a while ago and the choice sets are just devastating. I'd definitely like to try sub Kyurem now that you guys have sparked my interest. The only problem I can see this team having is CB Terrakion as it can come in and threaten you with its STABs. Reuniclus isn't going to like taking a CB SE/X-scissor and Conk doesn't like CB Close Combat. I'm sure it can be played around with the two, though. gj and gl to the both of you. ^_^

Dec 4th, 2011, 9:00:51 PM	#36
dragonuser I don't want to fight them again. No matter how many lives I've got, it wouldn't be enough. Moderator Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,346 Mentor	solid team man :]

Dec 5th, 2011, 12:40:02 AM	#37
yee Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,044	Just posting to say that you two have done a great job with this team, I was thinking of doing a Hail RMT for Christmas but now I don't have to. It's also really nice to see Kyurem getting well-deserved use.

Dec 5th, 2011, 8:25:12 AM	#39
Basti Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 130 Germany	Oh god, I hate facing this team. In other words, great work! I don't really have any ideas for improvement, but I never really liked psyshock on reuniclus, it makes it too easy for sd glis to set up on it. You do have 2 solid checks for it though. Now that I think about it, acrobat could probably stop your team cold, with a little damage on kyurem. Then again, ice shard + hail dmg. Oh well, you get the idea.

Dec 5th, 2011, 11:08:04 AM	#40
Mynism Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 309	Thanks for the love :) @Tangelo : Dragonite DDs once under neutral weather ... Start of turn 1 D4RR3N called Deoxys-S back! D4RR3N sent out Dragonite! A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up! A$AP Rocky's Attack rose! A$AP Rocky's Defense rose! Mynism: yea but without hail ;) Start of turn 2 The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance! The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose! The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose! A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up! A$AP Rocky's Attack rose! A$AP Rocky's Defense rose! Start of turn 3 The foe's Dragonite used Outrage! A$AP Rocky lost 181 HP! (45% of its health) A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Dragonite lost 22% of its health! The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained! A$AP Rocky restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 4 The foe's Dragonite used Outrage! A$AP Rocky lost 174 HP! (43% of its health) The foe's Dragonite calmed down! The foe's Dragonite became confused! The foe's Dragonite ate its Lum Berry! The foe's Dragonite's status cleared! A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Dragonite lost 42% of its health! The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained! A$AP Rocky restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Delko is watching the battle. Mynism: just outrage again Start of turn 5 The foe's Dragonite used Outrage! A$AP Rocky lost 174 HP! (43% of its health) D4RR3N: kk A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Dragonite lost 34% of its health! The foe's Dragonite fainted! The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained! A$AP Rocky restored a little HP using its Leftovers! D4RR3N: aight Delko: oh god Dragonite DDs twice under neutral weather : ... Start of turn 1 D4RR3N called Deoxys-S back! D4RR3N sent out Dragonite! A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up! A$AP Rocky's Attack rose! A$AP Rocky's Defense rose! Mynism: inb4 crit Start of turn 2 The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance! The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose! The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose! A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up! A$AP Rocky's Attack rose! A$AP Rocky's Defense rose! Start of turn 3 The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance! The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose! The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose! A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Dragonite lost 21% of its health! The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained! Start of turn 4 The foe's Dragonite used Outrage! A$AP Rocky lost 241 HP! (60% of its health) A$AP Rocky used Payback! The foe's Dragonite lost 78% of its health! The foe's Dragonite fainted! I can test it under Trick Room if you want Edit : Im gonna test Blastoise over Tentacruel 'cause Psychoboost Deoxys-S is very annoying.. Last edited by Mynism; Dec 5th, 2011 at 12:18:24 PM.

Dec 5th, 2011, 3:11:31 PM	#42
Omglolitsj Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 30	hey delko, u running dem 8 speed ev's on tranny for my scizor D:?, also dem conkelderpz be trollin

Dec 5th, 2011, 3:12:53 PM	#43
Omglolitsj Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 30	you need a wish passer of some kind tho, otherwise you won't beat me delko <3 u need to keep ur tentacruel and tranny alive for big threats

Dec 6th, 2011, 8:04:02 AM	#44
*Delko Chemical Ride Super Moderator** Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,991 Belgium Mentor	Thanks for the kind words everyone! We used to have HP Fire > Leech Seed for some time actually (and the funny part was that HP Fire doesn't even OHKO Scizor). But like I mentioned in an earlier post, Abomasnow kinda needs the bulk it currently has (which it loses when we go mixed). Leech Seed can also heal the other teammembers a bit, kinda like a Wish-passer ;) __________________

Dec 6th, 2011, 12:43:48 PM	#45
sheep Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 508	holy shit, why do you constantly post a hail team with a few edits... you have 10 rmt's that are ALL hail

Dec 6th, 2011, 2:03:19 PM	#47
Arikado Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 531 Kuwait	Wow Delko! I remember you rating my first competitive team, which happened to be a hail team. xD Great job on making such a great team. :) __________________ Kings of the North [5th gen Hail RMT] Fighting rain in the sand. [5th gen OU] Classic Volt Turn 5th gen RMT with good synergy

Dec 7th, 2011, 1:43:04 AM	#48
I Am Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 69	Nice team - I love seeing hail, the "underdog" weather come out on top.

Dec 8th, 2011, 6:59:35 PM	#49
APimpNamedSlickback Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 52 Quintin is my Honey Boo Boo~	Hey Delko Great team. I think that you should try out the Sub Punch set on Conkeldurr. Also, Ice Wind Gengar is a nice pokemon, you could consider replacing Reuniclus with him. Also how did you get those images to be so small? __________________ "Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlesness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlesness. Thereby, you can be the director of your opponent's fate..."