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***Oglemi**** · Oct 31st, 2012, 3:12:35 PM

Chanseys with Wish were only given out from a special event in the New York Pokemon Center. Since that doesn't exist anymore, you cannot get a Blissey with Wish unless you trade with a person who has attended that event irl.

AJ34 · Dec 8th, 2012, 5:00:43 PM

Not sure if this is the best place to put this but, how do I add a strikethough effect to text in my thread?

melvni · Dec 8th, 2012, 5:21:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat AJ34

Not sure if this is the best place to put this but, how do I add a strikethough effect to text in my thread?

This probably isn't the right place, since this is for questions about things relating to the Contributions & Corrections portion of the site, but I'm not sure if there is an appropriate thread for asking questions like that anywhere on the site anyway.

Anyway, since you asked, the way to do it is to write [s.]text you want to strikethrough[/s], but without the period next to the s in the brackets. When you do this it looks like: ~~text you want to strikethrough~~

melvni · Dec 28th, 2012, 12:10:17 AM

I know this is a double post, but its been 20 days, so I don't think anyone would notice if I just edited my post.

Anyway, I was just wondering whether Little Cup analyses need an unreleased section for Pokemon with released Dreamworld abilities that aren't available in Little Cup. For instance, Charmander has an unreleased section, but Magnemite doesn't. Both are released at levels too high for use in Little Cup and can't pass down their Dreamworld abilities (Charmander because it's a male only release, Magnemite because it's genderless). Which is right, or is it author's choice?

***Oglemi**** · Dec 28th, 2012, 12:58:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat melvni

I know this is a double post, but its been 20 days, so I don't think anyone would notice if I just edited my post.

Anyway, I was just wondering whether Little Cup analyses need an unreleased section for Pokemon with released Dreamworld abilities that aren't available in Little Cup. For instance, Charmander has an unreleased section, but Magnemite doesn't. Both are released at levels too high for use in Little Cup and can't pass down their Dreamworld abilities (Charmander because it's a male only release, Magnemite because it's genderless). Which is right, or is it author's choice?

If it's not available for play (released from the Dream World or otherwise), then it should be in an Unreleased section despite the misleading nomenclature.

I probably deleted the one for Magnemite without realizing that it's not available for play in LC yet.

If you want, you or someone else can make a thread with a consolidation of all of the current Unreleased sections, it'd really help a lot.

Orcasgt22 · Dec 28th, 2012, 6:16:01 PM

You have a Gothitelle with Shadow Tag out and I have a Dugtrio with Arena Trap out. Can either of us switch?

melvni · Dec 28th, 2012, 10:59:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Orcasgt22

You have a Gothitelle with Shadow Tag out and I have a Dugtrio with Arena Trap out. Can either of us switch?

This isn't really the appropriate thread for this (I think the SQSA thread for the Overused Metagame or the one for Smogon Metagames in general would probably have been better), but no, neither of you can switch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Oglemi

If you want, you or someone else can make a thread with a consolidation of all of the current Unreleased sections, it'd really help a lot.

That sounds like it could be useful. Just to be sure though, do you mean accumulate a list of the analyses that currently have unreleased sections, a list of the unreleased sections from those analyses, or a list of what Pokemon in what tiers should still have unreleased sections?

***Oglemi**** · Dec 28th, 2012, 11:32:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat melvni

That sounds like it could be useful. Just to be sure though, do you mean accumulate a list of the analyses that currently have unreleased sections, a list of the unreleased sections from those analyses, or a list of what Pokemon in what tiers should still have unreleased sections?

The last option, while at the same time compiling the unreleased sections that are currently onsite.

Google Knight · Dec 31st, 2012, 10:16:39 PM

Well, I'm like mad looking for the article that has this art:

I can't find it and I'm frustrated. Could you tell me which article/issue is it? I am sure this is not the right place for this post, but I couldn't find any better place. Anyway, please, respond, and if you have to move my post, so do it, but please don't close it. I really need to find that article. Thanks.

**Fatecrashers** · Dec 31st, 2012, 10:19:49 PM

http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/bw_ou_threatlist

not a smog article

**sandshrewz** · Dec 31st, 2012, 10:22:16 PM

http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/bw_ou_threatlist

It's not from The Smog though. You should probably ask this in the SQSA thread in C&C the next time though it's still weird haha. Btw you can Google images too! Lol :)

Edit: Fate ninja >:|

Google Knight · Dec 31st, 2012, 10:23:38 PM

Oh, I see. Thank you very much :)

EDIT: @sandshrewz: I googled it, and I didn't find it. What's/where's C&C? Sorry... I'm kinda a newbie D:

**sandshrewz** · Dec 31st, 2012, 10:39:10 PM

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3459265

Refer to this thread :)!

pagla bacha · Jan 1st, 2013, 4:30:59 PM

my question is pokemon black2/white2 compatibility with 4thgen games like platinum, can we transfer pokemon from gen4 to b2/w2 or do we need the original black and white to be a median between the two.

also is there a way to free battle in b2/w2 or do we still absolutely need friend codes?

Google Knight · Jan 2nd, 2013, 1:51:20 PM

As long as I'm concerned, you can transfer from platinum/dp to BW2. And you still need friend codes, you cannot free battle. I am sure of that.

Shiny Lord · Jan 16th, 2013, 10:11:38 PM

I have a question though that I hope people on here can answer for me. The nature of the first tyrogue is Serious with Guts Ability/Good Perseverance HP 39, Attack 17, Defense 20, Sp. Atk 18, Sp. Def 19, Speed 20. The second one has a Calm Nature it has Steadfast Nature and also has good perseverance. HP 41, Attack 18, Defense 21, Sp.Atk 20, Sp.Def 18, Speed 20. I already have a Shiny Hitmonchan so I want to know which one I should evolve into Hitmonlee and which one I should evolve into Hitmontop. I know both natures are terrible but its not like I battle competitively they will just be used for in game but I just wanted to know how to make the best of the natures of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

AllNet · Feb 1st, 2013, 9:33:07 PM

Quick question. There used to be a bulky bulk up Breloom set on Breloom's smogon page. Why is it gone now? I really want to see the spread.

alkinesthetase · Feb 1st, 2013, 9:37:54 PM

it was removed because the set is no longer good in this metagame, but you can find some older breloom analysis threads in locked&outdated, such as this one http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3458682 which lists the spread of

evs: 236 HP / 212 SDef / 60 Spd
<p>The spread might seem strange, but it does have its uses. 236 HP EVs will ensure that Breloom will have the highest HP number that is divisible by 8, meaning that it will recover the most HP from Poison Heal. 60 Speed EVs allow Breloom to reach 191 Speed, outspeeding minimum Speed Heatran and other bulky Pokemon such as Choice Band Tyranitar, Skarmory, and defensive Politoed; the rest is put into Special Defense in order to take hits such as Rotom-W's Hydro Pump much better, as well as surviving moves such as Defensive Reuniclus' Psychic and Celebi's Hidden Power Fire.

doduo · Feb 12th, 2013, 6:25:46 PM

http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/bw...mula#apply-mod
I have read the article about damage calculations but I was wondering about if there are triple modifiers, do we change

Quote:

M'' = ((M * M') + 0x800) >> 12

into

Quote:

M''' = ((M * M' * M'') + 0x800) >> 12

or

Quote:

M''' = (((((M * M') + 0x800) >> 12) * M'') + 0x800) >> 12

If my question is stupid or it was mentioned in the article plz forgive it, coz I cant read English really well :p
Thank you.

Omaeka · Mar 6th, 2013, 7:38:08 AM

Why is Icy Wind illegal on Blissey?

I'm honestly trying to understand all of this battling stuff but most of the banned Pokémon seem so arbitrary.

tehy · Mar 6th, 2013, 1:22:01 PM

Icy Wind is illegal most likely because it's literally impossible to get in-game (At least, along with certain moves or abilities).

It's not a matter of banning and in general Smogon makes sure not to ban moves, and rarely bans abilities or does combination bans to avoid such confusion.

Seeing as Blissey has Ice Beam available and doesn't outspeed much even after a speed drop, you might want to just use Ice Beam instead.

DHR-107 · Mar 6th, 2013, 3:07:33 PM

It gets Icy Wind from BW2 Move tutors... So it shouldn't be illegal with anything iirc...

Omaeka · Mar 7th, 2013, 12:14:54 PM

Ah B/W2.

I was just watching some battles on YouTube and apparently Icy Wind was banned on her, which would make sense as it was a B/W battle and 2 hadn't came out yet.

Thank you for clearing that up.

zaana · Mar 8th, 2013, 10:14:16 AM

So i just want an opinion on partners for a team i would like to build. So far i know i want to use
Salamence
Scizor
And porygon 2
Any and all help is appreciated

Omaeka · Mar 8th, 2013, 7:03:59 PM

Hey guys, I have an idea for a Shuckle I want to use when I start battling, but I'm not sure if it would be illegal in the Never Used tier because it will be rocking a dream world ability.

Gilgamesh (Shuckle) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Contrary
EVs: 252 Def / 178 Sp.Def / 90 HP
Gentle Nature
IVs: 30 Def / 30 Sp.Def
- Encore
- Rest
- Toxic
- Shell Smash

The premise of this build is very simple, to use Shell Smash to drop Atk/Sp.Atk/Spd two stages and raise both his Def/Sp.Def two stages thanks to Contrary reversing stat changes. Stalling with +6 in both defences and racking up damage with Toxic whilst using Encore to trap any attempted setups and Rest to recover all damage when needed. No idea where to post things like this as the battling section doesn't seem to support small questions like these.

Thank-you.

Oct 31st, 2012, 3:12:35 PM	#51
*Oglemi I crashed my car into the bridge, I don't care Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,504 ~(^.^)~	Chanseys with Wish were only given out from a special event in the New York Pokemon Center. Since that doesn't exist anymore, you cannot get a Blissey with Wish unless you trade with a person who has attended that event irl. __________________ <shade> what an intense scrotum

Dec 8th, 2012, 5:00:43 PM	#52
AJ34 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 34	Not sure if this is the best place to put this but, how do I add a strikethough effect to text in my thread? __________________ B/W fc: 1979 8029 5204

Dec 28th, 2012, 12:10:17 AM	#54
melvni Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 856	I know this is a double post, but its been 20 days, so I don't think anyone would notice if I just edited my post. Anyway, I was just wondering whether Little Cup analyses need an unreleased section for Pokemon with released Dreamworld abilities that aren't available in Little Cup. For instance, Charmander has an unreleased section, but Magnemite doesn't. Both are released at levels too high for use in Little Cup and can't pass down their Dreamworld abilities (Charmander because it's a male only release, Magnemite because it's genderless). Which is right, or is it author's choice? __________________ Dreams of Absolution (Horribly Outdated NU RMT)

Dec 31st, 2012, 10:16:39 PM	#59
Google Knight Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 89 Spain	A question about a issue/article of The Smog Well, I'm like mad looking for the article that has this art: I can't find it and I'm frustrated. Could you tell me which article/issue is it? I am sure this is not the right place for this post, but I couldn't find any better place. Anyway, please, respond, and if you have to move my post, so do it, but please don't close it. I really need to find that article. Thanks. __________________ FCs: HG 2794 1974 6447. BW2: 4556 8188 7213. I use legal hacks! http://www.youtube.com/user/kxichi#g...721A86B8A4DB04 If you like watching Pokémon battles so subscribe!

Dec 31st, 2012, 10:19:49 PM	#60
Fatecrashers UNH UNH UNH UNH Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,915	http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/bw_ou_threatlist not a smog article __________________

Dec 28th, 2012, 6:16:01 PM	#56
Orcasgt22 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7	You have a Gothitelle with Shadow Tag out and I have a Dugtrio with Arena Trap out. Can either of us switch?

Dec 31st, 2012, 10:22:16 PM	#61
sandshrewz 南Potest 华Qui 人Vult Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,428 Live like there's no tomorrow Mentor	http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/bw_ou_threatlist It's not from The Smog though. You should probably ask this in the SQSA thread in C&C the next time though it's still weird haha. Btw you can Google images too! Lol :) Edit: Fate ninja >:\| __________________ Thanks for voting for The Smog Awards! ^_^ Member of the GP Team- VM for a check / stamp! Chinese Translation Project \|\| Art Thread \|\| NU Sun \| NU Rain

Dec 31st, 2012, 10:23:38 PM	#62
Google Knight Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 89 Spain	Oh, I see. Thank you very much :) EDIT: @sandshrewz: I googled it, and I didn't find it. What's/where's C&C? Sorry... I'm kinda a newbie D: __________________ FCs: HG 2794 1974 6447. BW2: 4556 8188 7213. I use legal hacks! http://www.youtube.com/user/kxichi#g...721A86B8A4DB04 If you like watching Pokémon battles so subscribe!

Dec 31st, 2012, 10:39:10 PM	#63
sandshrewz 南Potest 华Qui 人Vult Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,428 Live like there's no tomorrow Mentor	http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3459265 Refer to this thread :)! __________________ Thanks for voting for The Smog Awards! ^_^ Member of the GP Team- VM for a check / stamp! Chinese Translation Project \|\| Art Thread \|\| NU Sun \| NU Rain

Jan 1st, 2013, 4:30:59 PM	#64
pagla bacha Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 9	my question is pokemon black2/white2 compatibility with 4thgen games like platinum, can we transfer pokemon from gen4 to b2/w2 or do we need the original black and white to be a median between the two. also is there a way to free battle in b2/w2 or do we still absolutely need friend codes? __________________ Platinum Fc : 4255-4920-1303 i dont disconnect on purpose, its my wi-fi no rotoms plz!

Jan 2nd, 2013, 1:51:20 PM	#65
Google Knight Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 89 Spain	As long as I'm concerned, you can transfer from platinum/dp to BW2. And you still need friend codes, you cannot free battle. I am sure of that. __________________ FCs: HG 2794 1974 6447. BW2: 4556 8188 7213. I use legal hacks! http://www.youtube.com/user/kxichi#g...721A86B8A4DB04 If you like watching Pokémon battles so subscribe!

Jan 16th, 2013, 10:11:38 PM	#66
Shiny Lord Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 10	I have a question though that I hope people on here can answer for me. The nature of the first tyrogue is Serious with Guts Ability/Good Perseverance HP 39, Attack 17, Defense 20, Sp. Atk 18, Sp. Def 19, Speed 20. The second one has a Calm Nature it has Steadfast Nature and also has good perseverance. HP 41, Attack 18, Defense 21, Sp.Atk 20, Sp.Def 18, Speed 20. I already have a Shiny Hitmonchan so I want to know which one I should evolve into Hitmonlee and which one I should evolve into Hitmontop. I know both natures are terrible but its not like I battle competitively they will just be used for in game but I just wanted to know how to make the best of the natures of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Feb 1st, 2013, 9:33:07 PM	#67
AllNet Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 8	breloom Quick question. There used to be a bulky bulk up Breloom set on Breloom's smogon page. Why is it gone now? I really want to see the spread.

Feb 1st, 2013, 9:37:54 PM	#68
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 695 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	it was removed because the set is no longer good in this metagame, but you can find some older breloom analysis threads in locked&outdated, such as this one http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3458682 which lists the spread of evs: 236 HP / 212 SDef / 60 Spd <p>The spread might seem strange, but it does have its uses. 236 HP EVs will ensure that Breloom will have the highest HP number that is divisible by 8, meaning that it will recover the most HP from Poison Heal. 60 Speed EVs allow Breloom to reach 191 Speed, outspeeding minimum Speed Heatran and other bulky Pokemon such as Choice Band Tyranitar, Skarmory, and defensive Politoed; the rest is put into Special Defense in order to take hits such as Rotom-W's Hydro Pump much better, as well as surviving moves such as Defensive Reuniclus' Psychic and Celebi's Hidden Power Fire. __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Mar 6th, 2013, 7:38:08 AM	#70
Omaeka Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 13	Why is Icy Wind illegal on Blissey? I'm honestly trying to understand all of this battling stuff but most of the banned Pokémon seem so arbitrary. __________________ The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering.

Mar 6th, 2013, 1:22:01 PM	#71
tehy Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,151	Icy Wind is illegal most likely because it's literally impossible to get in-game (At least, along with certain moves or abilities). It's not a matter of banning and in general Smogon makes sure not to ban moves, and rarely bans abilities or does combination bans to avoid such confusion. Seeing as Blissey has Ice Beam available and doesn't outspeed much even after a speed drop, you might want to just use Ice Beam instead.

Mar 6th, 2013, 3:07:33 PM	#72
DHR-107 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 412 Their World	It gets Icy Wind from BW2 Move tutors... So it shouldn't be illegal with anything iirc... __________________ I'm on a mission to train every Pokemon Family during a playthrough of 3rd to 5th Gen! Currently at: 517/602! Current Team (White): Gothitelle/Accelgor/Maractus/Granbull/Garbodor/Basculin Current Team (Black 2): Solrock/Emboar/Sunflora/Crobat/Dunsparce/Azumarill

Mar 7th, 2013, 12:14:54 PM	#73
Omaeka Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 13	Ah B/W2. I was just watching some battles on YouTube and apparently Icy Wind was banned on her, which would make sense as it was a B/W battle and 2 hadn't came out yet. Thank you for clearing that up. __________________ The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering.

Mar 8th, 2013, 10:14:16 AM	#74
zaana Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4	So i just want an opinion on partners for a team i would like to build. So far i know i want to use Salamence Scizor And porygon 2 Any and all help is appreciated

Mar 8th, 2013, 7:03:59 PM	#75
Omaeka Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 13	Hey guys, I have an idea for a Shuckle I want to use when I start battling, but I'm not sure if it would be illegal in the Never Used tier because it will be rocking a dream world ability. Gilgamesh (Shuckle) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Contrary EVs: 252 Def / 178 Sp.Def / 90 HP Gentle Nature IVs: 30 Def / 30 Sp.Def - Encore - Rest - Toxic - Shell Smash The premise of this build is very simple, to use Shell Smash to drop Atk/Sp.Atk/Spd two stages and raise both his Def/Sp.Def two stages thanks to Contrary reversing stat changes. Stalling with +6 in both defences and racking up damage with Toxic whilst using Encore to trap any attempted setups and Rest to recover all damage when needed. No idea where to post things like this as the battling section doesn't seem to support small questions like these. Thank-you. __________________ The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering.