(Data) CAP 5th Generation Revamp: Fidgit

**Deck Knight** · Dec 31st, 2011, 10:06:50 PM

This thread will discuss the revamping of Fidgit.

The following is all canonical data for Fidgit:

Fidgit Family Data

Notes: The pre-vo movepools for 4th Gen are effectively shortened versions of Fidgit's movepool. This will be the case for all of the CAP projects.

1. 5th Generation Moves

Here is the list of 5th Generation Moves.

5th Gen Moves currently on Fidgit:
Sand-Attack (Level-Up)
Magic Room (Level-Up)
Wonder Room (Level-Up)
Air Slash (Level-Up)
Entrainment (Level-Up)
Heal Pulse (Level-Up)
Razor Wind (Level-Up)
Wide Guard (Level-Up)
Chip Away (Egg Move)
Quick Guard (Egg Move)

TM Moves: What TMS should Fidgit learn in addition to any currently existing ones.

Note: Round is the only new universal TM.

5th Gen (and other) added TMs currently on Fidgit:
Venoshock
Telekinesis
Sludge Wave
Low Sweep
Round
Echoed Voice
Energy Ball (Added TM)
Ally Switch
Quash
Acrobatics
Retaliate
Struggle Bug
Bulldoze

2. Hidden Ability:

Fidgit's current Hidden Ability is Prankster, while Breezi's is Unburden. These abilities speak abundantly to Fidgit's function as a support mon and Breezi to its flavor. In general I like them but your opinions may vary.

3. Older Generation Moves

Are there any older moves that were missed that might be viable on Fidgit?
Suffice it to say Fidgit already has almost every conceivable support move (outside statuses) in older generations, it's mostly a question of which 5th generation moves to add to its list. There's a few oddball ones like Mist and Haze, and looking over the discussion we had at the time (July 2008 lol) we didn't rule anything out.

Discussion Guidelines:

Movepools are assumed to be stripped down to 4th Gen level. 5th Gen added moves are listed for convenience. If you propose an addition of a move, please provide at least two sentences with reasoning consistent with the flavor or competitive needs of the Pokemon. Do the same with abilities: The key here is reasoning. CAPs are already fairly strong, so if you can make a solid argument for an expansion (be it even something as simple as the Pokemon's theme.)

UllarWarlord · Dec 31st, 2011, 10:18:52 PM

I personally do not understand why SBug is on the movepool. It's not a bug. :/

In other news, I would support Simple Beam and Heal pulse, if for no other reason than to accomodate its role as a supporter.

Tortferngatr · Dec 31st, 2011, 10:25:18 PM

Some of the Current List:

Magic Room and Wonder Room are interesting options. We gave Fidgit Gravity and company in Gen IV to see if they'd work then, giving Fidgit the other rooms would be nice to it for now. I'd keep them.

Air Slash is a nice way to flesh out Breezi. I'd keep it.

Ally Switch is a dubious move on Fidgit, as it is only learned by some Psychic-types. Whether it should be kept or not probably depends on if Fidgit can actually support with it in Triples. I wouldn't keep it.

Struggle Bug is learned by a few things that look like bugs but aren't Bug-types (Gligar family, Trapinch family) so I'd say to keep it. Also a nice support move.

Adds:

While Force Palm is only learned by Fighting-types, Fidgit seems to have the flavor for a random palm-based move. It also already gets Body Slam for paralysis support.

Drill Run is probably better on Colossoil (where it will be almost certainly the first move mentioned,) but eh, Rhyhorn gets it. Seems like a good idea on Fidgit.

Dummy007 · Dec 31st, 2011, 11:53:35 PM

For flavor purposes, I think Focus Punch and DoubleSlap fit well with Fidgit's many hands. Its persistence should also support adding both moves. Otherwise, what's in the above posts.

Gerard · Jan 1st, 2012, 12:25:41 AM

Energy Ball and Ally Switch are the only moves it think should be removed, since they don't really seem to fit flavor wise, Ally Switch in particular doesn't seem to be too good cause even when Fidgit can use "magic" powers and stuff normally reserved by more mystic types, he does this with his hands, teleporting himself and an ally I think goes beyond this and doesn't fit too much, energy ball just seems like some random coverage

Metal Bagon · Jan 1st, 2012, 12:34:07 AM

I agree with Gerard about ally switch and Energy Ball (although energy is common on a lot of pokemon so some more thought should be put into it before removing it). I also think Struggle Bug should be removed, Fidgit isn't a bug after all.

EDIT: Agreeing with SDS

**Seven Deadly Sins** · Jan 1st, 2012, 12:49:24 AM

I never understood why it didn't get any of the Elemental Punches (specifically Fire Punch and ThunderPunch, but not Ice Punch since generally mons don't get elemental punches they're weak to) since pretty much anything with arms gets E-Punches, and that's a boon Fidgit has in spades.

**Deck Knight** · Jan 1st, 2012, 2:54:27 AM

When Fidgit was originally created, it was focused on being a Pure Utility Pokemon and the decision was made for "bare bones offense." Thus to keep with that in general Fidgit is limited to STAB moves and, in the case of Breezi, and few "wind" attacks. Thus Fidgit gets little as far as direct damaging moves but has an expansive support movepool. It doesn't get Focus Punch because it's too Fidgety.

As far as absent support moves, Haze, Mist, and Clear Smog are not represented but each could work. Haze wasn't selected at the time of creation since it was figured phazing via Whirlwind would be generally superior. Naturally that was before Prankster would give Haze priority.

After some discussion on #capasb, I'll get this settled here and now:

Flavorwise, Fidgit is incapable of using attacks focused in the hand like punches, with the sole exception of Comet Punch, which is erratic by nature. This is why it does not have any punches or even Brick Break. Fidgit has gone through two revision processes and it never picked up Brick Break despite its supportive properties of removing the opponent's screens. As such, Punches and Brick Break are off limits.

I have been mulling over a few other moves however, and Acid Spray, Circle Throw, Clear Smog, After You and other more supportive functioning moves.

Tortferngatr · Jan 1st, 2012, 4:24:27 AM

While honestly not even Troll Freak would restrict at least 1 more"focused" punching attack, I will concede defeat over the punches. As for Brick Break, I will point out briefly that alongisd ethe IRC discussion, one revision was concerned more with tutors, and the other was concerned with trimming Fidgit's movepool. It doesn't exactly take focus for something as handed as Fidgit to make a chop at an enemy. It's not erratic, but it's simple.

**Deck Knight** · Jan 2nd, 2012, 2:01:51 AM

So now would be a good time to update. In general I'm going for less coverage and more support with this, as it's in line with Fidgit's concept. This will probably make a few people unhappy but I took a bit too much liberty with Fidgit when initially implemented in CAP ASB.

Fidgit Family Data

I meticulously went over Breezi and Fidgit's movepool and made a fair number of changes as far as attack availability.

Removed/Moved Attacks:
Chip Away, Energy Ball, and Sand-Attack have been removed. (+3MC for Chip Away, +2MC for Energy Ball, no change for Sand-Attack as a Pre-25 Move)
Acrobatics has been removed from Breezi and Fidgit's Level-Up but remain on Fidgit as a TM Move. (+1 MC for Breezi)
Block and Icy Wind have been removed from Breezi, but remain in Fidgit's 4th Gen Move tutor list. (+3 MC each for Breezi)

Added/Moved Attacks:
Clear Smog has been added to Breezi and Fidgit's Pre-25 Moves.
Circle Throw has been added to Fidgit's Pre-25 Moves.
Wide Guard has been moved to Fidgit's Pre-25 Moves.
Entrainment and Heal Pulse have been moved from Level-up to Egg Moves, and thus are no longer pre-25 moves.
Acid Spray, After You, and Haze have been added to Egg Moves.
Embargo has been added to TM Moves for both Breezi and Fidgit.

the dead mans oddysey · Jan 2nd, 2012, 3:55:59 AM

give fidgit bulk up. mostly just a flavour thing. but still, it would help with his move pool. or give it calm mind or some other stat based move.
also, please give it gravity. its underused, and could be a usefull (even if short) game changer.

Son_of_Shadoo · Jan 2nd, 2012, 5:47:33 AM

It already has Gravity. And at this stage, Fidgit's revamp is finished.

zarator · Jan 2nd, 2012, 6:46:08 AM

Fidgit is not supposed to have a stat up move, as he is not a sweeper.

Plus, I'd like to add that we should try to keep gen IV or precedent move additions to a minimum, as those moves were already available when we made the Pokémon, and there probably is a reason (flavor or competitive) for which we didn't put them in.

Alchemator · Jan 2nd, 2012, 7:18:10 AM

I think Ally Switch definitely slipped under the radar. To give you an idea of just how exclusive that move is, only one line of Pokémon learns it by level-up (the Abra line), and there are perhaps only five or so other families which learn it by TM. Furthermore, all of these Pokémon are Psychic-typed.

I'm not sure how it fits on Fidgit.

**Deck Knight** · Jan 2nd, 2012, 9:13:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Alchemator

I think Ally Switch definitely slipped under the radar. To give you an idea of just how exclusive that move is, only one line of Pokémon learns it by level-up (the Abra line), and there are perhaps only five or so other families which learn it by TM. Furthermore, all of these Pokémon are Psychic-typed.

I'm not sure how it fits on Fidgit.

I already know this, but decided it was a pretty cool kind of support to be able to Ally Switch with a Pokemon that was actually immune to Toxic and Thunder Wave.

Gerard · Jan 2nd, 2012, 12:10:56 PM

Considering Fidgit aleady has +1 Bodyblock I don't see how switch helps him that much, other than also giving him a +1 Take cover at the same time (which might be a bit too much)

**Deck Knight** · Jan 2nd, 2012, 2:12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Gerard

Considering Fidgit aleady has +1 Bodyblock I don't see how switch helps him that much, other than also giving him a +1 Take cover at the same time (which might be a bit too much)

Ally Switch has +1 Priority so Fidgit will actually have +2 Priority when using it. Granted it's pretty quick anyway but that's all irrelevant. Anyway, I'm closing this.

Dec 31st, 2011, 10:06:50 PM	#1
Deck Knight Jigen Makkoto Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,887 Massachusetts	CAP 5th Generation Revamp: Fidgit This thread will discuss the revamping of Fidgit. The following is all canonical data for Fidgit: Fidgit Family Data Breezi: Height: 1’0. Weight: 6.6 lbs / 3 kg Evolution: Breezi --> level up /w Iron Ball --> Fidgit Type: Poison/Flying Poison: Poison STAB; immunity to Poison/Toxic, see and breath through smog/smokescreens/haze uninhibited. Able to use Wrap and Bind without losing focus. Superior senses in urban settings. Flying: Flying STAB; immunity to Ground attacks outside extremely odd circumstances even for ground-based flying Pokemon. Enhanced aerial mobility. Superior senses in open air arenas. Abilities: Persistent: (Innate) This Pokemon has a great affinity for odd field effects. When it uses one of these effects it increases their duration. Moves affected are Gravity, Heal Block, Lucky Chant, Magic Room, Safeguard, Trick Room, Tailwind, and Wonder Room by an additional one (1) round or three (3) actions depending on the move. Vital Spirit: (Innate) This Pokemon has a high vitality and alertness making it immune to sleep induced by other Pokemon. Its normal state of sleeplessness makes it take 1 less damage/action from Ghost Curse. If it is put to sleep by a Pokemon with Mold Breaker it will wake up the next action. Unburden(DW): (Innate) This Pokemon is incredibly possessive. If it uses or loses an item in battle its rage swells and its speed doubles (x2) until it receives another item. Stats: 55 / 36 / 49 / 70 / 45 / 85 HP: 90 Atk: Rank 2 Def: Rank 2 SpA: Rank 3 SpD: Rank 2 Spe: 85 Size Class: 1 Weight Class: 1 Base Rank Total: 14 4th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Gust 0 Tailwind 5 Encore 9 Rapid Spin 14 Knock Off 19 Copycat 25 Whirlwind 30 Body Slam 35 Sludge Bomb 41 Toxic Spikes 49 Gravity 53 Heal Block 59 Me First 67 Lucky Chant Egg Moves: Disable Follow Me Me First Metronome Mimic Sand Tomb Spikes Wish 4th Gen Tutor Moves: Block Earth Power Gastro Acid Gravity Helping Hand Icy Wind Knock Off Mud-Slap Ominous Wind Snore Swift Tailwind Twister 4th Gen TMs: TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM12 Taunt TM16 Light Screen TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM20 Safeguard TM21 Frustration TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM30 Shadow Ball TM32 Double Team TM33 Reflect TM36 Sludge Bomb TM37 Sandstorm TM40 Aerial Ace TM41 Torment TM42 Facade TM43 Secret Power TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM46 Thief TM48 Skill Swap TM49 Snatch TM56 Fling TM58 Endure TM76 Stealth Rock TM77 Psych Up TM78 Captivate TM82 Sleep Talk TM83 Natural Gift TM84 Poison Jab TM87 Swagger TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute TM92 Trick Room Fidgit: Height: 3’ 1” Weight: 116.6 lbs / 53 kg Evolution: Breezi --> level up /w Iron Ball --> Fidgit Type: Poison/Ground Poison: Poison STAB; immunity to Poison/Toxic, see and breath through smog/smokescreens/haze uninhibited. Able to use Wrap and Bind without losing focus. Superior senses in urban settings. Ground: Ground STAB; Immune to all electrical attacks, can Dig through almost any substance, Evasive Digging reduced from 3 per action Energy Cost to 2 per action, superior senses in darkened cave surroundings. Abilities: Persistent: (Innate) This Pokemon has a great affinity for odd field effects. When it uses one of these effects it increases their duration. Moves affected are Gravity, Heal Block, Lucky Chant, Magic Room, Safeguard, Trick Room, Tailwind, and Wonder Room by an additional one (1) round or three (3) actions depending on the move. Vital Spirit: (Innate) This Pokemon has a high vitality and alertness making it immune to sleep induced by other Pokemon. Its normal state of sleeplessness makes it take 1 less damage/action from Ghost Curse. If it is put to sleep by a Pokemon with Mold Breaker it will wake up the next action. Prankster (DW): (Innate) The Pokemon is always prepared for engaging in sneaky tactics and trickery, giving its non-damaging attacks an increase in priority level. Stats: 95 / 76 / 109 / 90 / 80 / 105 HP: 100 Atk: Rank 3 Def: Rank 4 SpA: Rank 3 SpD: Rank 3 Spe: 105 Size Class: 2 Weight Class: 4 Base Rank Total: 20 4th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Gust 0 Tailwind 0 Comet Punch 0 Helping Hand 5 Encore 9 Rapid Spin 14 Knock Off 19 Copycat 25 Whirlwind 30 Body Slam 35 Sludge Bomb 41 Toxic Spikes 49 Gravity 53 Heal Block 59 Earth Power 67 Lucky Chant Egg Moves: Disable Follow Me Me First Metronome Mimic Sand Tomb Spikes Wish 4th Gen Tutor Moves: Block Earth Power Gastro Acid Gravity Helping Hand Icy Wind Knock Off Mud-Slap Ominous Wind Snore Swift Tailwind Twister 4th Gen TMs: TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM12 Taunt TM15 Hyper Beam TM16 Light Screen TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM20 Safeguard TM21 Frustration TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM30 Shadow Ball TM32 Double Team TM33 Reflect TM36 Sludge Bomb TM37 Sandstorm TM39 Rock Tomb TM40 Aerial Ace TM41 Torment TM42 Facade TM43 Secret Power TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM46 Thief TM48 Skill Swap TM49 Snatch TM56 Fling TM58 Endure TM68 Giga Impact TM71 Stone Edge TM76 Stealth Rock TM77 Psych Up TM78 Captivate TM80 Rock Slide TM82 Sleep Talk TM83 Natural Gift TM84 Poison Jab TM87 Swagger TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute TM92 Trick Room HM06 Rock Smash HM08 Rock Climb Notes: The pre-vo movepools for 4th Gen are effectively shortened versions of Fidgit's movepool. This will be the case for all of the CAP projects. 1. 5th Generation Moves Here is the list of 5th Generation Moves. 5th Gen Moves currently on Fidgit: Sand-Attack (Level-Up) Magic Room (Level-Up) Wonder Room (Level-Up) Air Slash (Level-Up) Entrainment (Level-Up) Heal Pulse (Level-Up) Razor Wind (Level-Up) Wide Guard (Level-Up) Chip Away (Egg Move) Quick Guard (Egg Move) TM Moves: What TMS should Fidgit learn in addition to any currently existing ones. Note: Round is the only new universal TM. 5th Gen (and other) added TMs currently on Fidgit: Venoshock Telekinesis Sludge Wave Low Sweep Round Echoed Voice Energy Ball (Added TM) Ally Switch Quash Acrobatics Retaliate Struggle Bug Bulldoze 2. Hidden Ability: Fidgit's current Hidden Ability is Prankster, while Breezi's is Unburden. These abilities speak abundantly to Fidgit's function as a support mon and Breezi to its flavor. In general I like them but your opinions may vary. 3. Older Generation Moves Are there any older moves that were missed that might be viable on Fidgit? Suffice it to say Fidgit already has almost every conceivable support move (outside statuses) in older generations, it's mostly a question of which 5th generation moves to add to its list. There's a few oddball ones like Mist and Haze, and looking over the discussion we had at the time (July 2008 lol) we didn't rule anything out. Discussion Guidelines: Movepools are assumed to be stripped down to 4th Gen level. 5th Gen added moves are listed for convenience. If you propose an addition of a move, please provide at least two sentences with reasoning consistent with the flavor or competitive needs of the Pokemon. Do the same with abilities: The key here is reasoning. 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Dec 31st, 2011, 10:18:52 PM	#2
UllarWarlord Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,981 Hiding yo husbands	I personally do not understand why SBug is on the movepool. It's not a bug. :/ In other news, I would support Simple Beam and Heal pulse, if for no other reason than to accomodate its role as a supporter. __________________ CAP ASB Team Pwnemon: i was raped by my left hand once <Ditto> It's not racism if I don't consider them people

Dec 31st, 2011, 10:25:18 PM	#3
Tortferngatr Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,558 United States of America	Some of the Current List: Magic Room and Wonder Room are interesting options. We gave Fidgit Gravity and company in Gen IV to see if they'd work then, giving Fidgit the other rooms would be nice to it for now. I'd keep them. Air Slash is a nice way to flesh out Breezi. I'd keep it. Ally Switch is a dubious move on Fidgit, as it is only learned by some Psychic-types. Whether it should be kept or not probably depends on if Fidgit can actually support with it in Triples. I wouldn't keep it. Struggle Bug is learned by a few things that look like bugs but aren't Bug-types (Gligar family, Trapinch family) so I'd say to keep it. Also a nice support move. Adds: While Force Palm is only learned by Fighting-types, Fidgit seems to have the flavor for a random palm-based move. It also already gets Body Slam for paralysis support. Drill Run is probably better on Colossoil (where it will be almost certainly the first move mentioned,) but eh, Rhyhorn gets it. Seems like a good idea on Fidgit. __________________ Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1 If only the max avatar filesize was 90K... \|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile \|

Dec 31st, 2011, 11:53:35 PM	#4
Dummy007 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,222 It's Hammer Time!	For flavor purposes, I think Focus Punch and DoubleSlap fit well with Fidgit's many hands. Its persistence should also support adding both moves. Otherwise, what's in the above posts. __________________ ASB Team ...and as soon as I get back, my computer dies. I will have really limited computer access for an undefined period of time, so please bear with me. <18:06> *** SoS is now known as AwesomeSoS <21:49> Dummy007: TL, read the channel title <21:49 TalkingLion: im a talking lion not a reading lion i cant

Jan 1st, 2012, 12:34:07 AM	#6
Metal Bagon Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,671	I agree with Gerard about ally switch and Energy Ball (although energy is common on a lot of pokemon so some more thought should be put into it before removing it). I also think Struggle Bug should be removed, Fidgit isn't a bug after all. EDIT: Agreeing with SDS Last edited by Metal Bagon; Jan 1st, 2012 at 1:37:14 AM.

Jan 1st, 2012, 12:25:41 AM	#5
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,213 Mmm... Ice Cream!	Energy Ball and Ally Switch are the only moves it think should be removed, since they don't really seem to fit flavor wise, Ally Switch in particular doesn't seem to be too good cause even when Fidgit can use "magic" powers and stuff normally reserved by more mystic types, he does this with his hands, teleporting himself and an ally I think goes beyond this and doesn't fit too much, energy ball just seems like some random coverage

Jan 1st, 2012, 12:49:24 AM	#7
Seven Deadly Sins :D Moderator Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,177	I never understood why it didn't get any of the Elemental Punches (specifically Fire Punch and ThunderPunch, but not Ice Punch since generally mons don't get elemental punches they're weak to) since pretty much anything with arms gets E-Punches, and that's a boon Fidgit has in spades. __________________

Jan 1st, 2012, 2:54:27 AM	#8
Deck Knight Jigen Makkoto Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,887 Massachusetts	When Fidgit was originally created, it was focused on being a Pure Utility Pokemon and the decision was made for "bare bones offense." Thus to keep with that in general Fidgit is limited to STAB moves and, in the case of Breezi, and few "wind" attacks. Thus Fidgit gets little as far as direct damaging moves but has an expansive support movepool. It doesn't get Focus Punch because it's too Fidgety. As far as absent support moves, Haze, Mist, and Clear Smog are not represented but each could work. Haze wasn't selected at the time of creation since it was figured phazing via Whirlwind would be generally superior. Naturally that was before Prankster would give Haze priority. After some discussion on #capasb, I'll get this settled here and now: Flavorwise, Fidgit is incapable of using attacks focused in the hand like punches, with the sole exception of Comet Punch, which is erratic by nature. This is why it does not have any punches or even Brick Break. Fidgit has gone through two revision processes and it never picked up Brick Break despite its supportive properties of removing the opponent's screens. As such, Punches and Brick Break are off limits. I have been mulling over a few other moves however, and Acid Spray, Circle Throw, Clear Smog, After You and other more supportive functioning moves. __________________ [17:53] <&Deck_Knight> If I Cite and Prune CiteandPrune's post, what does that make me? [17:54] <Birkal> a citeandprune cite and prunner [17:54] <%DHR> O_o lol [17:54] <+Mos_Quitoxe> Cite and Prune doesn't do enough of either [17:55] <+Mos_Quitoxe> can we make him change it or force him to pay damages [17:55] <&Deck_Knight> It would be a lot easier for him to Cite and Prune if we made him a mod. [17:56] <&Deck_Knight> I delegate this task to Birkal. [17:57] <Birkal> >:\| Last edited by Deck Knight; Jan 1st, 2012 at 4:32:58 AM.

Jan 1st, 2012, 4:24:27 AM	#9
Tortferngatr Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,558 United States of America	While honestly not even Troll Freak would restrict at least 1 more"focused" punching attack, I will concede defeat over the punches. As for Brick Break, I will point out briefly that alongisd ethe IRC discussion, one revision was concerned more with tutors, and the other was concerned with trimming Fidgit's movepool. It doesn't exactly take focus for something as handed as Fidgit to make a chop at an enemy. It's not erratic, but it's simple. __________________ Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1 If only the max avatar filesize was 90K... \|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile \|

Jan 2nd, 2012, 2:01:51 AM	#10
Deck Knight Jigen Makkoto Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,887 Massachusetts	So now would be a good time to update. In general I'm going for less coverage and more support with this, as it's in line with Fidgit's concept. This will probably make a few people unhappy but I took a bit too much liberty with Fidgit when initially implemented in CAP ASB. Fidgit Family Data Breezi: Height: 1’0. Weight: 6.6 lbs / 3 kg Evolution: Breezi --> level up /w Iron Ball --> Fidgit Type: Poison/Flying Poison: Poison STAB; immunity to Poison/Toxic, see and breath through smog/smokescreens/haze uninhibited. Able to use Wrap and Bind without losing focus. Superior senses in urban settings. Flying: Flying STAB; immunity to Ground attacks outside extremely odd circumstances even for ground-based flying Pokemon. Enhanced aerial mobility. Superior senses in open air arenas. Abilities: Persistent: (Innate) This Pokemon has a great affinity for odd field effects. When it uses one of these effects it increases their duration. Moves affected are Gravity, Heal Block, Lucky Chant, Magic Room, Safeguard, Trick Room, Tailwind, and Wonder Room by an additional one (1) round or three (3) actions depending on the move. Vital Spirit: (Innate) This Pokemon has a high vitality and alertness making it immune to sleep induced by other Pokemon. Its normal state of sleeplessness makes it take 1 less damage/action from Ghost Curse. If it is put to sleep by a Pokemon with Mold Breaker it will wake up the next action. Unburden(DW): (Innate) This Pokemon is incredibly possessive. If it uses or loses an item in battle its rage swells and its speed doubles (x2) until it receives another item. Stats: 55 / 36 / 49 / 70 / 45 / 85 HP: 90 Atk: Rank 2 Def: Rank 2 SpA: Rank 3 SpD: Rank 2 Spe: 85 Size Class: 1 Weight Class: 1 Base Rank Total: 14 4th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Gust 0 Tailwind 5 Encore 9 Rapid Spin 14 Knock Off 19 Copycat 25 Whirlwind 30 Body Slam 35 Sludge Bomb 41 Toxic Spikes 49 Gravity 53 Heal Block 59 Me First 67 Lucky Chant 5th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Gust 0 Tailwind 0 Encore 0 Rapid Spin 6 Clear Smog 14 Knock Off 19 Copycat 22 Whirlwind 25 Razor Wind 30 Body Slam 35 Sludge Bomb 43 Toxic Spikes 49 Gravity 53 Heal Block 59 Air Slash 67 Lucky Chant Egg Moves: Acid Spray After You Disable Entrainment Follow Me Haze Heal Pulse Me First Metronome Mimic Quick Guard Sand Tomb Spikes Stealth Rock Wish 4th Gen Tutor Moves: Earth Power Gastro Acid Gravity Helping Hand Knock Off Mud-Slap Ominous Wind Snore Swift Tailwind Twister 4th Gen TMs: TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM12 Taunt TM16 Light Screen TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM20 Safeguard TM21 Frustration TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM30 Shadow Ball TM32 Double Team TM33 Reflect TM36 Sludge Bomb TM37 Sandstorm TM40 Aerial Ace TM41 Torment TM42 Facade TM43 Secret Power TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM46 Thief TM48 Skill Swap TM49 Snatch TM56 Fling TM58 Endure TM76 Stealth Rock TM77 Psych Up TM78 Captivate TM82 Sleep Talk TM83 Natural Gift TM84 Poison Jab TM87 Swagger TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute TM92 Trick Room 5th Gen TMs: TM06 Toxic TM09 Venoshock TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM12 Taunt TM16 Light Screen TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM19 Telekinesis TM20 Safeguard TM21 Frustration TM27 Return TM30 Shadow Ball TM32 Double Team TM33 Reflect TM34 Sludge Wave TM36 Sludge Bomb TM37 Sandstorm TM40 Aerial Ace TM41 Torment TM42 Facade TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM46 Thief TM48 Round TM49 Echoed Voice TM51 Ally Switch TM63 Embargo TM67 Retaliate TM76 Struggle Bug TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute TM92 Trick Room Fidgit: Height: 3’ 1” Weight: 116.6 lbs / 53 kg Evolution: Breezi --> level up /w Iron Ball --> Fidgit Type: Poison/Ground Poison: Poison STAB; immunity to Poison/Toxic, see and breath through smog/smokescreens/haze uninhibited. Able to use Wrap and Bind without losing focus. Superior senses in urban settings. Ground: Ground STAB; Immune to all electrical attacks, can Dig through almost any substance, Evasive Digging reduced from 3 per action Energy Cost to 2 per action, superior senses in darkened cave surroundings. Abilities: Persistent: (Innate) This Pokemon has a great affinity for odd field effects. When it uses one of these effects it increases their duration. Moves affected are Gravity, Heal Block, Lucky Chant, Magic Room, Safeguard, Trick Room, Tailwind, and Wonder Room by an additional one (1) round or three (3) actions depending on the move. Vital Spirit: (Innate) This Pokemon has a high vitality and alertness making it immune to sleep induced by other Pokemon. Its normal state of sleeplessness makes it take 1 less damage/action from Ghost Curse. If it is put to sleep by a Pokemon with Mold Breaker it will wake up the next action. Prankster (DW): (Innate) The Pokemon is always prepared for engaging in sneaky tactics and trickery, giving its non-damaging attacks an increase in priority level. Stats: 95 / 76 / 109 / 90 / 80 / 105 HP: 100 Atk: Rank 3 Def: Rank 4 SpA: Rank 3 SpD: Rank 3 Spe: 105 Size Class: 2 Weight Class: 4 Base Rank Total: 20 4th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Gust 0 Tailwind 0 Comet Punch 0 Helping Hand 5 Encore 9 Rapid Spin 14 Knock Off 19 Copycat 25 Whirlwind 30 Body Slam 35 Sludge Bomb 41 Toxic Spikes 49 Gravity 53 Heal Block 59 Earth Power 67 Lucky Chant 5th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Magic Room 0 Wonder Room 0 Circle Throw 0 Gust 0 Tailwind 0 Comet Punch 0 Helping Hand 0 Encore 0 Rapid Spin 6 Clear Smog 14 Knock Off 19 Copycat 22 Whirlwind 25 Wide Guard 30 Body Slam 35 Sludge Bomb 43 Toxic Spikes 49 Gravity 53 Heal Block 59 Earth Power 67 Lucky Chant Egg Moves: Acid Spray After You Disable Entrainment Follow Me Haze Heal Pulse Me First Metronome Mimic Sand Tomb Spikes Stealth Rock Wish 4th Gen Tutor Moves: Block Earth Power Gastro Acid Gravity Helping Hand Icy Wind Knock Off Mud-Slap Ominous Wind Snore Swift Tailwind Twister 4th Gen TMs: TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM12 Taunt TM15 Hyper Beam TM16 Light Screen TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM20 Safeguard TM21 Frustration TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM30 Shadow Ball TM32 Double Team TM33 Reflect TM36 Sludge Bomb TM37 Sandstorm TM39 Rock Tomb TM40 Aerial Ace TM41 Torment TM42 Facade TM43 Secret Power TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM46 Thief TM48 Skill Swap TM49 Snatch TM56 Fling TM58 Endure TM68 Giga Impact TM71 Stone Edge TM76 Stealth Rock TM77 Psych Up TM78 Captivate TM80 Rock Slide TM82 Sleep Talk TM83 Natural Gift TM84 Poison Jab TM87 Swagger TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute TM92 Trick Room HM06 Rock Smash HM08 Rock Climb 5th Gen TMs: TM06 Toxic TM09 Venoshock TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM12 Taunt TM15 Hyper Beam TM16 Light Screen TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM19 Telekinesis TM20 Safeguard TM21 Frustration TM23 Knock Down TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM28 Dig TM30 Shadow Ball TM32 Double Team TM33 Reflect TM34 Sludge Wave TM36 Sludge Bomb TM37 Sandstorm TM39 Rock Tomb TM40 Aerial Ace TM41 Torment TM42 Facade TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM46 Thief TM47 Low Sweep TM48 Round TM49 Echoed Voice TM51 Ally Switch TM56 Fling TM60 Quash TM62 Acrobatics TM63 Embargo TM67 Retaliate TM68 Giga Impact TM71 Stone Edge TM76 Struggle Bug TM78 Bulldoze TM80 Rock Slide TM84 Poison Jab TM87 Swagger TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute TM92 Trick Room TM94 Rock Smash HM04 Strength I meticulously went over Breezi and Fidgit's movepool and made a fair number of changes as far as attack availability. Removed/Moved Attacks: Chip Away, Energy Ball, and Sand-Attack have been removed. (+3MC for Chip Away, +2MC for Energy Ball, no change for Sand-Attack as a Pre-25 Move) Acrobatics has been removed from Breezi and Fidgit's Level-Up but remain on Fidgit as a TM Move. (+1 MC for Breezi) Block and Icy Wind have been removed from Breezi, but remain in Fidgit's 4th Gen Move tutor list. (+3 MC each for Breezi) Added/Moved Attacks: Clear Smog has been added to Breezi and Fidgit's Pre-25 Moves. Circle Throw has been added to Fidgit's Pre-25 Moves. Wide Guard has been moved to Fidgit's Pre-25 Moves. Entrainment and Heal Pulse have been moved from Level-up to Egg Moves, and thus are no longer pre-25 moves. Acid Spray, After You, and Haze have been added to Egg Moves. Embargo has been added to TM Moves for both Breezi and Fidgit. __________________ [17:53] <&Deck_Knight> If I Cite and Prune CiteandPrune's post, what does that make me? [17:54] <Birkal> a citeandprune cite and prunner [17:54] <%DHR> O_o lol [17:54] <+Mos_Quitoxe> Cite and Prune doesn't do enough of either [17:55] <+Mos_Quitoxe> can we make him change it or force him to pay damages [17:55] <&Deck_Knight> It would be a lot easier for him to Cite and Prune if we made him a mod. [17:56] <&Deck_Knight> I delegate this task to Birkal. [17:57] <Birkal> >:\| Last edited by Deck Knight; Jan 2nd, 2012 at 2:34:15 AM.

Jan 2nd, 2012, 3:55:59 AM	#11
the dead mans oddysey Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 301 Everyone's story has meaning, but the stories of the dead are the ones you should listen to.	give fidgit bulk up. mostly just a flavour thing. but still, it would help with his move pool. or give it calm mind or some other stat based move. also, please give it gravity. its underused, and could be a usefull (even if short) game changer. __________________ My story ended months ago, but yours still continues. Don't waste your time... bw friend code: 0046-3241-3296 ASB team If you want to here how my story ended, you will have to wait till I write it up first.

Jan 2nd, 2012, 5:47:33 AM	#12
Son_of_Shadoo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,863 Northern Ireland	It already has Gravity. And at this stage, Fidgit's revamp is finished. __________________ CAP ASB Team ASB Referee Profile My Soundcloud 23:53 SevenDeadlySins i hereby appoint MK_Ultra fagmaster general of asb 23:53 MK_Ultra that post comes with ops right 23:53 SevenDeadlySins bops

Jan 2nd, 2012, 6:46:08 AM	#13
zarator Don't cry, little one Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,490 Italy	Fidgit is not supposed to have a stat up move, as he is not a sweeper. Plus, I'd like to add that we should try to keep gen IV or precedent move additions to a minimum, as those moves were already available when we made the Pokémon, and there probably is a reason (flavor or competitive) for which we didn't put them in. __________________ http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...st-d3bs11p.png

Jan 2nd, 2012, 7:18:10 AM	#14
Alchemator my god if you don't have an iced tea for me when i come back i'm gonna flip Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,762 Zrack attack!	I think Ally Switch definitely slipped under the radar. To give you an idea of just how exclusive that move is, only one line of Pokémon learns it by level-up (the Abra line), and there are perhaps only five or so other families which learn it by TM. Furthermore, all of these Pokémon are Psychic-typed. I'm not sure how it fits on Fidgit. __________________ Twitter \| Blog

Jan 2nd, 2012, 12:10:56 PM	#16
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,213 Mmm... Ice Cream!	Considering Fidgit aleady has +1 Bodyblock I don't see how switch helps him that much, other than also giving him a +1 Take cover at the same time (which might be a bit too much)