Smogon Premier League 3 - Week 1 - Page 12

Philip7086 · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:08:00 PM

So jokes aside, I just wanted to go on record here about a few things.

First of all, yeah, it's a pretty funny gimmick that all the Sharks do is have MoP ghost for them. But I can truthfully tell you that all such allegations have been blown way out of proportion. We just never cared enough to deny anything, because let's face it, it's funny. The truth is, MoP is a great asset to the team because he has an intimate knowledge of every metagame (aside from VGC) and can help everybody build unique MoP-esque teams, which are known for their surprise factor. As far as "ghosting" is concerned, I have not seen MoP (or anybody on the Sharks for that matter) ghost for anybody. Yes, we Sharks spam incoherent advice in our channel while our teammates are playing. We provide calcs when needed to ease the burden on our teammates. However, as far as I'm concerned this is not ghosting, and if it is, then every team I have ever been on is guilty of it.

I'm putting my reputation on the line by making this claim. Take that as you will.

As far as Ojama/Eternal's little debacle, I was not on while Ojama played, so I cannot confirm nor deny what they're being accused of. If it's true, then fuck you two for jeopardizing our team this season. However, I would not be surprised if some of this log was lost in translation, or if Ojama was exaggerating things due to being angry that he lost. I haven't spoken to either of them on the matter yet, but it seems more likely to me that Eternal gave Ojama advice, and Ojama took it. Maybe it was ghosting, maybe it wasn't. However, if we are to believe the former, both of these players are still first time offenders, and banning someone from the remainder of the season seems rather harsh. I would like LonelyNess to reconsider this punishment. I think sitting both out for two weeks is more appropriate (I mean c'mon, Eternal gives Ojama bad advice and it costs him the game, and now he's out for the entire season? Seriously?).

If anybody on the Sharks tries to ghost a match from here on out, I will personally see to it that he/she is benched for the rest of the season.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

BIG loven · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:16:33 PM

HIS REP IS ON THE LINE

Philip7086 · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:20:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat BIG loven

HIS REP IS ON THE LINE

rofl

Stone_Cold · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:27:02 PM

Honestly, I don't see whats wrong with Phils proposal, maybe Lonelyness could allow managers to vote on Eternals punishment? He fucked up, but who hasn't fucked up? I think banning from SPL 3 is pretty harsh, he obviously knows not to do it again now.

Lady Salamence · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:37:39 PM

SC, while that seems like a nice idea, who's to say some managers won't vote with the mindset "I don't wanna have my team play eternal, so BAN"

Or is that not a problem

Stone_Cold · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:41:35 PM

The point of tournaments in my eyes is to prove your the best, you should also have full confidence in your team for beating every player. Your what I call "a giant vagina" and will have no respect from me if you perma ban Eternal from SPL just for the sole fact that you don't want to play him.

Eternals not the first to ghost, he's just the first to get caught. I am sure that because of this episode, ghosting will not take place in this SPL season any further.

Krack · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:47:25 PM

Won against Akola gg

ShakeItUp · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:49:07 PM

DarkLucario FTW!
gg tigers

***bojangles***** · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:49:55 PM

Lost to DarkLucario in a well fought match. GG man. Wasn't expecting that last Pokemon :P

Rewer · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:50:34 PM

DARK LUCARIO BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DarkLucario · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:50:52 PM

I won against bojangles in a good game

tennisace · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:54:17 PM

gg raiders, and good job tigres

Stone_Cold · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:55:38 PM

yeah grats cryonicles, id like the last match done though if you don't mind. tough luck pirates, lets come in next week and hopefully we'll have some better luck haha.

6A9 Ace Matador · Jan 7th, 2012, 2:59:08 PM

so all phils badges are greyed out... did he lose his rep

SoulWind · Jan 7th, 2012, 3:18:16 PM

Good job Raiders!

Tiba · Jan 7th, 2012, 3:23:49 PM

the fucking nbs has no working server today ):

Earthworm · Jan 7th, 2012, 3:29:26 PM

I'll host one temporarily with my IP (121.44.224.49 -- use that as advanced connect)

Eternal · Jan 7th, 2012, 3:36:33 PM

I just want to say that most of everything Ojama said is highly exaggerated and not giving me a say on this matter is very unfair. It is obvious that he wanted to make an excuse for his loss. But using logs of his confessions only is just absurd. I would like to talk this over personally along with your evidence that I "ghosted" and "bullied" (because that's just completely false), and that the evidence you're using with those logs just looks to me like someone is pissed that he lost a game of Pokemon so he's making excuses (and if that's a surprise to you, then look at most of the loss posts on this thread). There is a clear line between giving someone advice (when the person asked for it) versus ghosting for that player (playing for that player move for move).

**kd24** · Jan 7th, 2012, 3:37:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Philip7086

However, I would not be surprised if some of this log was lost in translation, or if Ojama was exaggerating things due to being angry that he lost. I haven't spoken to either of them on the matter yet, but it seems more likely to me that Eternal gave Ojama advice, and Ojama took it. Maybe it was ghosting, maybe it wasn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Lonelyness

I confronted Ojama about the above evidence against him and he confessed to being ghosted move for move.

Cometk · Jan 7th, 2012, 3:45:43 PM

gee we have a lot of synced menstrual periods here

Crux · Jan 7th, 2012, 4:00:00 PM

Congrats Jabba and Raiders, you guys played really well, thanks for being such good sports :)

Tigers, well done, we nearly had a comeback there, let's do better next time :)

Alan · Jan 7th, 2012, 4:48:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat LonelyNess

Eternal is banned from the remainder of the Smogon Premier League 3, and Ojama will be suspended for one week.

**kd24** · Jan 7th, 2012, 4:54:34 PM

apparantly some people dont understand just how big a deal ghosting move for move is...it allows them to game the system if it happens in the future and it completely disrupts spl..who knows how many other players are being ghosted

and for phil to say "ive never seen it" well i doubt if there were plans to ghost it would ever happen in front of a tournament director / admin...in fact that seems kind of absurd to think you would ever see anything

if anything, the ban of 1 player for the season seems pretty light to us considering the history of the sharks and the proof already given

but i guess sharks teammates can continue to try and defend things

edit: so alan deleted his para but my point still stands lol

yondie · Jan 7th, 2012, 5:43:12 PM

krack i love u <3

gg's classys

theamericandream38 · Jan 7th, 2012, 5:48:07 PM

Gj raiders =D

Moof: I predicted you to win, that's what's up *shrugging sideways smiley*

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:08:00 PM	#276
Philip7086 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,929 Mentor	So jokes aside, I just wanted to go on record here about a few things. First of all, yeah, it's a pretty funny gimmick that all the Sharks do is have MoP ghost for them. But I can truthfully tell you that all such allegations have been blown way out of proportion. We just never cared enough to deny anything, because let's face it, it's funny. The truth is, MoP is a great asset to the team because he has an intimate knowledge of every metagame (aside from VGC) and can help everybody build unique MoP-esque teams, which are known for their surprise factor. As far as "ghosting" is concerned, I have not seen MoP (or anybody on the Sharks for that matter) ghost for anybody. Yes, we Sharks spam incoherent advice in our channel while our teammates are playing. We provide calcs when needed to ease the burden on our teammates. However, as far as I'm concerned this is not ghosting, and if it is, then every team I have ever been on is guilty of it. I'm putting my reputation on the line by making this claim. Take that as you will. As far as Ojama/Eternal's little debacle, I was not on while Ojama played, so I cannot confirm nor deny what they're being accused of. If it's true, then fuck you two for jeopardizing our team this season. However, I would not be surprised if some of this log was lost in translation, or if Ojama was exaggerating things due to being angry that he lost. I haven't spoken to either of them on the matter yet, but it seems more likely to me that Eternal gave Ojama advice, and Ojama took it. Maybe it was ghosting, maybe it wasn't. However, if we are to believe the former, both of these players are still first time offenders, and banning someone from the remainder of the season seems rather harsh. I would like LonelyNess to reconsider this punishment. I think sitting both out for two weeks is more appropriate (I mean c'mon, Eternal gives Ojama bad advice and it costs him the game, and now he's out for the entire season? Seriously?). If anybody on the Sharks tries to ghost a match from here on out, I will personally see to it that he/she is benched for the rest of the season. That's all I have to say on the matter. __________________ # of times I've beaten the E4: 173 # of level 100 Pokes: 9 (NO HACKS!!!)

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:16:33 PM	#277
BIG loven Not so little anymore Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 937 Wick City	HIS REP IS ON THE LINE __________________ <Huntofthelion> in da hood <Huntofthelion> you rap or die <Huntofthelion> I DIDNT DIE

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:27:02 PM	#279
Stone_Cold Be it a rock or a grain of sand, in water they sink as the same Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,856	Honestly, I don't see whats wrong with Phils proposal, maybe Lonelyness could allow managers to vote on Eternals punishment? He fucked up, but who hasn't fucked up? I think banning from SPL 3 is pretty harsh, he obviously knows not to do it again now. __________________ Let's get down to business....

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:37:39 PM	#280
Lady Salamence radda radda Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,279 ROFL ROFL ROFL	SC, while that seems like a nice idea, who's to say some managers won't vote with the mindset "I don't wanna have my team play eternal, so BAN" Or is that not a problem __________________ oh dear [sigpic] broke

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:41:35 PM	#281
Stone_Cold Be it a rock or a grain of sand, in water they sink as the same Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,856	The point of tournaments in my eyes is to prove your the best, you should also have full confidence in your team for beating every player. Your what I call "a giant vagina" and will have no respect from me if you perma ban Eternal from SPL just for the sole fact that you don't want to play him. Eternals not the first to ghost, he's just the first to get caught. I am sure that because of this episode, ghosting will not take place in this SPL season any further. __________________ Let's get down to business....

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:47:25 PM	#282
Krack Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 616	Won against Akola gg

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:49:07 PM	#283
ShakeItUp Darkravenn12: Always and Forever Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,114 Mentor	DarkLucario FTW! gg tigers __________________ (19:01) galacticos: at least im not (19:01) galacticos: 0-5 like you (19:01) galacticos: gg bro Galacticos (Random PO scrub who johned me) to user: Double01

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:49:55 PM	#284
*bojangles* IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE, Administrator** Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,885 Location: New York, NY Mentor	Lost to DarkLucario in a well fought match. GG man. Wasn't expecting that last Pokemon :P __________________ [12:47pm] TV-Rocka: I want to take a naked pic with just the tigres logo on my... [12:48pm] TV-Rocka: and well, no one of my friend want to take the photo

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:50:34 PM	#285
Rewer is dog Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 938 Brazil	DARK LUCARIO BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:50:52 PM	#286
DarkLucario Kämpfe für deinen Traum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 257 Germany	I won against bojangles in a good game

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:54:17 PM	#287
tennisace RIDE OR DIE MOTHERFUCKERS ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,236	gg raiders, and good job tigres __________________ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:55:38 PM	#288
Stone_Cold Be it a rock or a grain of sand, in water they sink as the same Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,856	yeah grats cryonicles, id like the last match done though if you don't mind. tough luck pirates, lets come in next week and hopefully we'll have some better luck haha. __________________ Let's get down to business....

Jan 7th, 2012, 2:59:08 PM	#289
6A9 Ace Matador floats like butter, springs like a trampoline Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,690	so all phils badges are greyed out... did he lose his rep __________________

Jan 7th, 2012, 3:18:16 PM	#290
SoulWind majestic Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Spain	Good job Raiders!

Jan 7th, 2012, 3:23:49 PM	#291
Tiba Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 69	the fucking nbs has no working server today ):

Jan 7th, 2012, 3:29:26 PM	#292
Earthworm Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,631	I'll host one temporarily with my IP (121.44.224.49 -- use that as advanced connect) __________________

Jan 7th, 2012, 3:36:33 PM	#293
Eternal Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,522 NYC	I just want to say that most of everything Ojama said is highly exaggerated and not giving me a say on this matter is very unfair. It is obvious that he wanted to make an excuse for his loss. But using logs of his confessions only is just absurd. I would like to talk this over personally along with your evidence that I "ghosted" and "bullied" (because that's just completely false), and that the evidence you're using with those logs just looks to me like someone is pissed that he lost a game of Pokemon so he's making excuses (and if that's a surprise to you, then look at most of the loss posts on this thread). There is a clear line between giving someone advice (when the person asked for it) versus ghosting for that player (playing for that player move for move). Last edited by Eternal; Jan 7th, 2012 at 4:04:27 PM.

Jan 7th, 2012, 3:45:43 PM	#295
Cometk Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 39 California	gee we have a lot of synced menstrual periods here

Jan 7th, 2012, 4:00:00 PM	#296
Crux Rawrr Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 933	Congrats Jabba and Raiders, you guys played really well, thanks for being such good sports :) Tigers, well done, we nearly had a comeback there, let's do better next time :) __________________ "I am an overachiever and proud of it! Put this in your signature too if you agree!"

Jan 7th, 2012, 4:54:34 PM	#298
kd24 Surprise Mother Fucker Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,769 HOME	apparantly some people dont understand just how big a deal ghosting move for move is...it allows them to game the system if it happens in the future and it completely disrupts spl..who knows how many other players are being ghosted and for phil to say "ive never seen it" well i doubt if there were plans to ghost it would ever happen in front of a tournament director / admin...in fact that seems kind of absurd to think you would ever see anything if anything, the ban of 1 player for the season seems pretty light to us considering the history of the sharks and the proof already given but i guess sharks teammates can continue to try and defend things edit: so alan deleted his para but my point still stands lol __________________ My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLemondrop7

Jan 7th, 2012, 5:43:12 PM	#299
yondie the Hero Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,623	krack i love u <3 gg's classys

Jan 7th, 2012, 5:48:07 PM	#300
theamericandream38 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,015 Minnesota	Gj raiders =D Moof: I predicted you to win, that's what's up shrugging sideways smiley __________________ http://imagegen.last.fm/lastfmblue/r.../tad38.gif</a> VGC Worlds 2011 - 19th Place (Masters Division) VGC Fall Regionals 2012 (Fort Wayne) - 1st Place (Masters Division) VGC Nationals 2012 - 8th Place (Masters Division)