Virizion (Dual Screens) [QC 3/3]

Snorlaxe · Dec 11th, 2011, 7:01:17 PM

this is a set ive been fooling around with lately. i think its pretty good and deserves a spot online, but obv thats up for you cool QC kids to decide!

[SET]
name: Dual screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Giga Drain / Close Combat
move 4: Taunt
item: Light Clay
nature: Timid / Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Why this set deserves to be on-site:

thanks to its solid physical bulk and excellent special bulk, virizion can act as a great dual screen user
it isnt weak to pursuit like other users such as latias, allowing it to set up screens on a wider range of threats
giga drain allows it to check rain sweepers while replenishing health. this allows it to come back in later and set up screens multiple times during a match. however, close combat can be used instead to smack pokemon like tyranitar. virizion's attacking move is mostly filler anyway, so it doesn't matter too much.
taunt allows it to not be setup bait for pokemon such as ferrothorn
thanks to its typing and stat distrubition, virizion fits in on all kinds of teams, making it a great supporter that can pretty much be slapped onto almost any team and still be effective
can deal with the rotom-w and scizor offensive cores that are oh-so-popular quite effectively

Additional Comments:

taunt is so that virizion can set up dual screens against more defensive pokemon without having to worry about them setting up on you. also blocks pesky status moves that could ruin virizion's fun
due to the fact that virizion is naturally more specially bulky than physically bulky, 224 Def evs and a bold nature are used to give great physical bulk
252 HP evs give virizion good overall bulk, while max Speed evs allow virizion to outpace the most amount of threats possible, as well as have access to a very speedy taunt
since virizion's physical defense is lower than special defense, you should usually start off with reflect, unless youre facing a special attacker
if you wish to be able to take hits better, particularly physical ones, then a bulkier 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe spread may be for you. this allows you to take physical hits much better while still outspeeding max speed adamant dragonite, allowing you to taunt it before it can set up
the set also has surprise factor, as almost every opponent you face will be expecting a calm mind variant, and will be caught off guard when you set up screens

Teammates and Counters:

this virizion doesnt need much team support, as it is a support pokemon itself
pokemon who benefit from having buffered defenses make excellent teammates. setup sweepers such as dragon dance dragonite and calm mind latias appreciate dual screens support as is makes setting up and pulling off a sweep much easier
all pokemon appreciate dual screens support, so this virizion variant can be thrown onto almost any team in need of a defensive boost
pokemon that can sponge virizion's weaknesses are also good teammates. due to its grass typing, virizion can do wonders in a fire-water-grass defensive core, particularly on a bulky offense team
bulky water types are especially good teammates as they can take on heatran, who walls this virizion set handily and can deal massive damage with its STAB fire-type attacks. vaporeon is especially great as it can pass wishes to virizion, greatly replenishing its health and allowing it to set up screens many times during a match more reliably
taunt users shut down virizion handily
the aforementioned heatran, along with every other fire-type, walls virizion splendidly and can deal massive damage to it with STAB attacks
anything with a flying-type attack will hurt virizion badly, especially acrobatics gliscor
tornadus is especially threatening since it outspeeds virizion and can smash it with a 4x effective hurricane

Danilo · Dec 11th, 2011, 10:16:26 PM

I've tried this set before, but I wasn't really too successful with it. I didn't find it effective since it kind of gets destroyed by the Rotom/Scizor offensive core. Then again, you probably had more success with this set than I.

JellyOs · Dec 11th, 2011, 11:27:15 PM

8 Spe EV's let you beat Modest Tran and set up Light Screen first
32 Spe EV's let you beat all 252 neutral 80's
88 lets you beat all Smeargle
Just food for thought..

**Pocket** · Dec 12th, 2011, 1:11:23 AM

Creative set - I'd specify Tornadus as one of its main threats, since it can beat Virizion to the punch with its 111 Speed, preventing Virizion to set up Screens.

Snorlaxe · Dec 12th, 2011, 7:06:05 AM

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I've tried this set before, but I wasn't really too successful with it. I didn't find it effective since it kind of gets destroyed by the Rotom/Scizor offensive core. Then again, you probably had more success with this set than I.

i know what you mean, it does have a tough time with scizor (though not rotom in the slightest lol...), but the idea is to pack a teammate who can deal with scizor, specifically fire-types. although really, scizor isn't even too problematic, as you can outspeed it and set up a reflect to cushion the inevitable u-turn.

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8 Spe EV's let you beat Modest Tran and set up Light Screen first
32 Spe EV's let you beat all 252 neutral 80's
88 lets you beat all Smeargle
Just food for thought..

thanks a bunch, ive made a mention of all those alternate spreads in additional comments

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Creative set - I'd specify Tornadus as one of its main threats, since it can beat Virizion to the punch with its 111 Speed, preventing Virizion to set up Screens.

done it, thanks~

Danilo · Dec 12th, 2011, 4:15:05 PM

Oh, i realize that it has no problems with Rotom, but im just talking about that core in general. Do you have any logs for this set? I would really love to see this set being used effectively.

complete legitimacy · Dec 12th, 2011, 5:05:22 PM

I don't know about this set. It seems to me like it's outclassed by Espeon, who is faster especially with the spread you have given, while also reflecting hazards and not being able to be Taunted. They would play almost exactly the same, although with Virizion having more of a surprise factor. I could be wrong and this could be a great set, but I'm just not seeing it.

The only thing Dual Screens are good for nowadays are SmashPass or Hyper Offense, although they're both suffering due to Deoxys's banning. It seems that there would always be a better alternative, such as Espeon for aforementioned reasons, Deoxys-D for greater bulk, or Azelf for more offensive momentum.

Snorlaxe · Dec 12th, 2011, 5:35:22 PM

i'll try to gather some logs for this set really soon, got a project due wednesday so it might take me a few days to get them, but i'll post them here soon~

Danilo · Dec 12th, 2011, 5:40:08 PM

Sounds good. I hope you prove me wrong about this set :)

erisia · Dec 12th, 2011, 6:00:23 PM

Suppose the clincher of this is Virizion's typing, which synergizes better with other Psychic type dual screeners like the aforementioned ones. It's one of the only dual screeners to resist CB Tyranitar's STAB attacks for instance, which gives it a pretty good niche. As such, Close Combat might be worth a slash over Giga Drain since Virizion's main role as a dual screener is to support its Psychic typed counterpart by demolishing Dark types. With a Justified boost it'll hit pretty hard even without investment.

Snorlaxe · Dec 14th, 2011, 9:55:20 PM

got some logs, it was kinda tough getting good ones because i either ended up never getting a chance to use virizion or getting cleanly swept a few times. but heres a few logs to show the set's effectiveness:

(oh yeah, and im Amelie)

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Techniloom · Dec 15th, 2011, 12:14:13 AM

This set just seems like a slower Serperior.

**AccidentalGreed** · Dec 15th, 2011, 12:19:38 AM

One can argue, however, that Virizion's stereotype as an offensive anti-metagame threat does this set good. While Tyranitar, Ferrothorn, and Gastrodon run for their dear lives, Virizion has basically earned its team free defense boosts. You can't say the same for something niche like Serperior.

The premise so far looks good, but Snorlaxe, get better opponents :P

Snorlaxe · Dec 15th, 2011, 7:02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat AccidentalGreed

The premise so far looks good, but Snorlaxe, get better opponents :P

hahahaha believe me i know, everyone i played was a flaming retard (mainly due to the fact that my rating on that alt is pretty shitty so i attracted shitty opponents xD)

and also, this set is much better than serperior because of both virizions typing, and the fact that every player expects virizion to be running a calm mind set. the surprise factor that comes with this set is one of its most important attributes. for example, many players switch scizor in on virizion, expecting to get a free u-turn and deal some good damage. however, theyre always surprised when they find that their adamant choice band scizor's u-turn deals less than 25% damage after virizion sets up a reflect. speaking of scizor, this set can also perfectly deal with the rotom-w and scizor offensive core that is currently the most popular duo in the OU metagame. this set has a lot going for it, so if you doubt its effectiveness, i urge you to give it a try.

Fantom0 · Dec 15th, 2011, 8:01:58 AM

Nice set, it's something I'll have to try out sometime!
One thing I noticed, is that Virizion possesses an excellent speed, and it would be crazy not to take full advantage of it. Timid Nature and 228 spe should at least be an option for always outspeeding base 105s. Taunt/Giga Drain are replaceable, methinks, such as Sacred Sword, Hidden Powers of sorts, even combine it with set-up moves so that Virizion is capable of easier stat-boosters behind its dual screens. If your opponent pahazes you, you've still got Dual Screens to hide behind! Just pointing out.

alexwolf · Dec 15th, 2011, 10:22:01 AM

I agree with the above poster!Virizion doesn't really need max def. Behind Reflect it takes physical hits like a champ anyway. But being able to outspeed threats like Salamence,Hydreigon,Infernape,Mienshao etc. before they can kill you or setup on you is invaluable so speed should be enough to outspeed base 105s imo...

HoiPolloi · Dec 15th, 2011, 10:47:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Fantom0

combine it with set-up moves so that Virizion is capable of easier stat-boosters behind its dual screens

With dual screen and a set up move Virizion lacks the coverage and its attack stats are so low, that it won't do real damage without investment.
Also I think max defense is important to handle the Scizor-Rotom-core and to get maxium profit from reflect.

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Originally Posted by Fat alexwolf

being able to outspeed threats like Salamence,Hydreigon,Infernape,Mienshao etc. before they can kill you or setup on you is invaluable so speed should be enough to outspeed base 105s imo...

Virizion should already be behind screens when one of these switches in. When they come in you taunt them or switch directly to a better counter/check, who will have an easy time checking these threats with screens up.

Fazit: max defense is the best option

Snorlaxe · Dec 15th, 2011, 11:34:27 AM

i agree with hoipolloi that max defense is the best choice. however, ive made a mention of max speed in AC as i do see the merit in it.

can i get some QC members to weigh in on this set?

alexwolf · Dec 15th, 2011, 12:21:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat HoiPolloi

Virizion should already be behind screens when one of these switches in. When they come in you taunt them or switch directly to a better counter/check, who will have an easy time checking these threats with screens up.

Fazit: max defense is the best option

He should be but it can't always be,that's the point.
Do you know why Deoxys-S was the best screener and why he was running max speed?
Because speed does matter for a DS supporter.
It means that you will able to setup screens in front of almost anything,before they can hit you.
I have tried this set and do you know how many Volcaronas that tried to QD in front of me i have stopped with Taunt?
How many CB Outrages i have survived because i was able to setup Reflect up before Hazorus hits me?
How many Specs DM i have survived from Hydreigon because i was fast enough to use LS before it hit me?
But with your set Volcarona can freely get at +1/+1/+1 as you setup Light Screen,and then you switch to a counter while Rona gets at +2/+2/+2.Good luck stopping that...

Also Virizion,even without max defense investement stops the Volt-Turn combo just fine!

**Pocket** · Dec 15th, 2011, 2:11:06 PM

Supporting alexwolf - reliably setting up Screens involves having the Speed to set them up before mons like Haxorus or Mamoswine decimates you. Taunt is also much more effective on a faster user, who can prevent mons like Volcarona or Deoxys-D from setting up on Virizion. The surprise factor may allow you to get away with running max Defense instead of max Speed, but once the surprise is gone, you would want the Speed.

Being too bulky can also be problematic, too, since you'd rather have Virizion die immediately after both Screens go up, rather than wasting a turn switching and putting your Sweeper vulnerable to taking a hard hit, despite the buffering from Screens.

BurningMan · Dec 15th, 2011, 3:29:57 PM

I think you should run at least 32 Spe EVs to outrun Max spe Adamant Dragonite so you can taunt it before it sets up effortless on you.

I also agree with Pocket that 252 Spe or at least enough Speed to outrun max+ Base 101s sounds alot more practicable than going so defensive, because the main users of dual screens are HO teams that usually need to set-up the screens fast and often only once.

I am not really sure if this set should be on-site at all, because there are so many other dual screeners that will do the job better 99% of the time. I see that virzions huge boon in this regard is its typing and the surprise value, however the latis have a similar typing and especially as a Dual Screener being Pursuit weak isn't that bad.

Danilo · Dec 15th, 2011, 4:04:16 PM

I don't like this set much either. I guess it's decent screener for more balanced teams because it's bulky, but I feel like I rather run a screening Alakazam most of the time.

Snorlaxe · Dec 15th, 2011, 4:49:33 PM

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Supporting alexwolf - reliably setting up Screens involves having the Speed to set them up before mons like Haxorus or Mamoswine decimates you. Taunt is also much more effective on a faster user, who can prevent mons like Volcarona or Deoxys-D from setting up on Virizion. The surprise factor may allow you to get away with running max Defense instead of max Speed, but once the surprise is gone, you would want the Speed.

Being too bulky can also be problematic, too, since you'd rather have Virizion die immediately after both Screens go up, rather than wasting a turn switching and putting your Sweeper vulnerable to taking a hard hit, despite the buffering from Screens.

i do think that max speed has its merits, dont get me wrong, i just think that max defense is better. but rest assured, should this get a chance to be written up, it will be stressed that running max speed is a great option. as for your second point....why would you ever want virizion to die after both screens go up? i know that i would always rather have virizion be durable and stick around throughout a match to set up screens multiple times. if youre so intent on using a suicide screener, dual screens virizion isnt for you.

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I think you should run at least 32 Spe EVs to outrun Max spe Adamant Dragonite so you can taunt it before it sets up effortless on you

thats actually a great point, i'll change the op to reflect that

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I am not really sure if this set should be on-site at all, because there are so many other dual screeners that will do the job better 99% of the time. I see that virzions huge boon in this regard is its typing and the surprise value, however the latis have a similar typing and especially as a Dual Screener being Pursuit weak isn't that bad.

lol what, virizion and the latis' typing isnt even REMOTELY similar (grass/fighting vs dragon/psychic???). i dont think any dual screener is vastly superior to virizion in any way. if youre aiming for an HO screener, then obviously a pokemon like espeon will be a better choice. if youre aiming for a defensive screener, then clearly bronzong is superior. however, if youre going for a bulky offense team that needs a screener, virizion is one of the best choices out there (along with the latis and what not). seriously, try this set out, i think you'll be pleasantly surprised

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I don't like this set much either. I guess it's decent screener for more balanced teams because it's bulky, but I feel like I rather run a screening Alakazam most of the time

why would you ever want to run a screening alakazam over this lol? alakazam is a great screener on heavy offense teams....but this virizion isnt MEANT to be used on heavy offense teams. if youre running HO, then alakazam is an excellent choice, but if you think alakazam is a better screener than virizion, youre missing the point of this set.

Danilo · Dec 15th, 2011, 4:57:58 PM

I realize that Alakazam is only better on offensive teams, but I just said I rather run him because I generally play heavy offense or stall. This set seems nice on a balanced team(as I stated) since it's rather bulky and doesn't really need screens to take some hits.

Snorlaxe · Dec 19th, 2011, 3:00:18 PM

it's been a little while. can i get some QC members' inputs on this set?

Dec 11th, 2011, 7:01:17 PM	#1
Snorlaxe #bossniggaprobs Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,232	Virizion (Dual Screens) [QC 3/3] this is a set ive been fooling around with lately. i think its pretty good and deserves a spot online, but obv thats up for you cool QC kids to decide! [SET] name: Dual screens move 1: Reflect move 2: Light Screen move 3: Giga Drain / Close Combat move 4: Taunt item: Light Clay nature: Timid / Jolly evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe Why this set deserves to be on-site: thanks to its solid physical bulk and excellent special bulk, virizion can act as a great dual screen user it isnt weak to pursuit like other users such as latias, allowing it to set up screens on a wider range of threats giga drain allows it to check rain sweepers while replenishing health. this allows it to come back in later and set up screens multiple times during a match. however, close combat can be used instead to smack pokemon like tyranitar. virizion's attacking move is mostly filler anyway, so it doesn't matter too much. taunt allows it to not be setup bait for pokemon such as ferrothorn thanks to its typing and stat distrubition, virizion fits in on all kinds of teams, making it a great supporter that can pretty much be slapped onto almost any team and still be effective can deal with the rotom-w and scizor offensive cores that are oh-so-popular quite effectively Additional Comments: taunt is so that virizion can set up dual screens against more defensive pokemon without having to worry about them setting up on you. also blocks pesky status moves that could ruin virizion's fun due to the fact that virizion is naturally more specially bulky than physically bulky, 224 Def evs and a bold nature are used to give great physical bulk 252 HP evs give virizion good overall bulk, while max Speed evs allow virizion to outpace the most amount of threats possible, as well as have access to a very speedy taunt since virizion's physical defense is lower than special defense, you should usually start off with reflect, unless youre facing a special attacker if you wish to be able to take hits better, particularly physical ones, then a bulkier 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe spread may be for you. this allows you to take physical hits much better while still outspeeding max speed adamant dragonite, allowing you to taunt it before it can set up the set also has surprise factor, as almost every opponent you face will be expecting a calm mind variant, and will be caught off guard when you set up screens Teammates and Counters: this virizion doesnt need much team support, as it is a support pokemon itself pokemon who benefit from having buffered defenses make excellent teammates. setup sweepers such as dragon dance dragonite and calm mind latias appreciate dual screens support as is makes setting up and pulling off a sweep much easier all pokemon appreciate dual screens support, so this virizion variant can be thrown onto almost any team in need of a defensive boost pokemon that can sponge virizion's weaknesses are also good teammates. due to its grass typing, virizion can do wonders in a fire-water-grass defensive core, particularly on a bulky offense team bulky water types are especially good teammates as they can take on heatran, who walls this virizion set handily and can deal massive damage with its STAB fire-type attacks. vaporeon is especially great as it can pass wishes to virizion, greatly replenishing its health and allowing it to set up screens many times during a match more reliably taunt users shut down virizion handily the aforementioned heatran, along with every other fire-type, walls virizion splendidly and can deal massive damage to it with STAB attacks anything with a flying-type attack will hurt virizion badly, especially acrobatics gliscor tornadus is especially threatening since it outspeeds virizion and can smash it with a 4x effective hurricane Last edited by Snorlaxe; Feb 23rd, 2012 at 3:46:12 PM. Reason: lol finally

Dec 11th, 2011, 10:16:26 PM	#2
Danilo Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,713 http://justsmogonthings.tumblr.com/	I've tried this set before, but I wasn't really too successful with it. I didn't find it effective since it kind of gets destroyed by the Rotom/Scizor offensive core. Then again, you probably had more success with this set than I. __________________ kael: =\\ kael: fuck kael: pako kael: I WANT DESTROY HE kael: HE DON'T RESPECT ME

Dec 11th, 2011, 11:27:15 PM	#3
JellyOs Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 453	8 Spe EV's let you beat Modest Tran and set up Light Screen first 32 Spe EV's let you beat all 252 neutral 80's 88 lets you beat all Smeargle Just food for thought.. __________________ Music C&C Work

Dec 12th, 2011, 1:11:23 AM	#4
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,157 Bergenfield	Creative set - I'd specify Tornadus as one of its main threats, since it can beat Virizion to the punch with its 111 Speed, preventing Virizion to set up Screens. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Dec 12th, 2011, 4:15:05 PM	#6
Danilo Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,713 http://justsmogonthings.tumblr.com/	Oh, i realize that it has no problems with Rotom, but im just talking about that core in general. Do you have any logs for this set? I would really love to see this set being used effectively. __________________ kael: =\\ kael: fuck kael: pako kael: I WANT DESTROY HE kael: HE DON'T RESPECT ME

Dec 12th, 2011, 5:05:22 PM	#7
complete legitimacy fearless in the face of danger Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 892 VM me for a RU QC / GP check.	I don't know about this set. It seems to me like it's outclassed by Espeon, who is faster especially with the spread you have given, while also reflecting hazards and not being able to be Taunted. They would play almost exactly the same, although with Virizion having more of a surprise factor. I could be wrong and this could be a great set, but I'm just not seeing it. The only thing Dual Screens are good for nowadays are SmashPass or Hyper Offense, although they're both suffering due to Deoxys's banning. It seems that there would always be a better alternative, such as Espeon for aforementioned reasons, Deoxys-D for greater bulk, or Azelf for more offensive momentum. __________________

Dec 12th, 2011, 5:35:22 PM	#8
Snorlaxe #bossniggaprobs Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,232	i'll try to gather some logs for this set really soon, got a project due wednesday so it might take me a few days to get them, but i'll post them here soon~

Dec 12th, 2011, 5:40:08 PM	#9
Danilo Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,713 http://justsmogonthings.tumblr.com/	Sounds good. I hope you prove me wrong about this set :) __________________ kael: =\\ kael: fuck kael: pako kael: I WANT DESTROY HE kael: HE DON'T RESPECT ME

Dec 12th, 2011, 6:00:23 PM	#10
erisia (macho) brace yourselves Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 852	Suppose the clincher of this is Virizion's typing, which synergizes better with other Psychic type dual screeners like the aforementioned ones. It's one of the only dual screeners to resist CB Tyranitar's STAB attacks for instance, which gives it a pretty good niche. As such, Close Combat might be worth a slash over Giga Drain since Virizion's main role as a dual screener is to support its Psychic typed counterpart by demolishing Dark types. With a Justified boost it'll hit pretty hard even without investment. __________________ Check out Slowmons: A new metagame where the slowest Pokémon moves first!

Dec 15th, 2011, 12:14:13 AM	#12
Techniloom Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 107	This set just seems like a slower Serperior.

Dec 15th, 2011, 12:19:38 AM	#13
AccidentalGreed I'll bite off your kneecaps if I ever see a super long post or wall of text. Seriously. Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,024 California	One can argue, however, that Virizion's stereotype as an offensive anti-metagame threat does this set good. While Tyranitar, Ferrothorn, and Gastrodon run for their dear lives, Virizion has basically earned its team free defense boosts. You can't say the same for something niche like Serperior. The premise so far looks good, but Snorlaxe, get better opponents :P __________________

Dec 15th, 2011, 8:01:58 AM	#15
Fantom0 Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 379 England! WoopWoop!	Nice set, it's something I'll have to try out sometime! One thing I noticed, is that Virizion possesses an excellent speed, and it would be crazy not to take full advantage of it. Timid Nature and 228 spe should at least be an option for always outspeeding base 105s. Taunt/Giga Drain are replaceable, methinks, such as Sacred Sword, Hidden Powers of sorts, even combine it with set-up moves so that Virizion is capable of easier stat-boosters behind its dual screens. If your opponent pahazes you, you've still got Dual Screens to hide behind! Just pointing out. __________________ Just waitin' for June 2nd now... --'?'-- <\|'.'\|>

Dec 15th, 2011, 10:22:01 AM	#16
alexwolf King of Conquerors Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,612 Greece	I agree with the above poster!Virizion doesn't really need max def. Behind Reflect it takes physical hits like a champ anyway. But being able to outspeed threats like Salamence,Hydreigon,Infernape,Mienshao etc. before they can kill you or setup on you is invaluable so speed should be enough to outspeed base 105s imo... __________________ Part of the OU QC team, message me for a check!

Dec 15th, 2011, 11:34:27 AM	#18
Snorlaxe #bossniggaprobs Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,232	i agree with hoipolloi that max defense is the best choice. however, ive made a mention of max speed in AC as i do see the merit in it. can i get some QC members to weigh in on this set?

Dec 15th, 2011, 2:11:06 PM	#20
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,157 Bergenfield	Supporting alexwolf - reliably setting up Screens involves having the Speed to set them up before mons like Haxorus or Mamoswine decimates you. Taunt is also much more effective on a faster user, who can prevent mons like Volcarona or Deoxys-D from setting up on Virizion. The surprise factor may allow you to get away with running max Defense instead of max Speed, but once the surprise is gone, you would want the Speed. Being too bulky can also be problematic, too, since you'd rather have Virizion die immediately after both Screens go up, rather than wasting a turn switching and putting your Sweeper vulnerable to taking a hard hit, despite the buffering from Screens. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Dec 14th, 2011, 9:55:20 PM	#11
Snorlaxe #bossniggaprobs Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,232	got some logs, it was kinda tough getting good ones because i either ended up never getting a chance to use virizion or getting cleanly swept a few times. but heres a few logs to show the set's effectiveness: (oh yeah, and im Amelie) ... Battle between Dan the Man and Amelie started! Tier: Standard OU Mode: Singles Variation: +18, -14 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Your team: Rotom-W / Victini / Vaporeon / Virizion / Scizor / Metagross Opponent's team: Gorebyss / Salamence / Gengar / Scizor / Starmie / Conkeldurr Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Dan the Man sent out Gorebyss! Start of turn 1 Rotom-W used Volt Switch! It's super effective! The foe's Gorebyss lost 85% of its health! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! The foe's Gorebyss used Shell Smash! The foe's Gorebyss's Defense fell! The foe's Gorebyss's Sp. Def. fell! The foe's Gorebyss's Attack sharply rose! The foe's Gorebyss's Sp. Att. sharply rose! The foe's Gorebyss's Speed sharply rose! Start of turn 2 The foe's Gorebyss used Baton Pass! Dan the Man called Gorebyss back! Dan the Man sent out Salamence! The foe's Salamence intimidates Vaporeon! Vaporeon's Attack fell! Vaporeon used Scald! It's not very effective... The foe's Salamence lost 28% of its health! The foe's Salamence was burned! The foe's Salamence ate its Lum Berry! The foe's Salamence's status cleared! Start of turn 3 The foe's Salamence used Outrage! Vaporeon lost 441 HP! (95% of its health) Vaporeon used Ice Beam! It's super effective! The foe's Salamence lost 71% of its health! The foe's Salamence fainted! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Dan the Man sent out Conkeldurr! Start of turn 4 Amelie called Vaporeon back! Amelie sent out Metagross! The foe's Conkeldurr used Mach Punch! Metagross lost 64 HP! (17% of its health) Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 5 Metagross used Meteor Mash! The foe's Conkeldurr lost 56% of its health! The foe's Conkeldurr used Drain Punch! Metagross lost 115 HP! (31% of its health) Metagross had its energy drained! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Conkeldurr restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 6 Metagross used Meteor Mash! The foe's Conkeldurr lost 55% of its health! Metagross's Attack rose! The foe's Conkeldurr used Drain Punch! Metagross lost 132 HP! (36% of its health) Metagross had its energy drained! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Conkeldurr restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 7 Metagross used Meteor Mash! The foe's Conkeldurr lost 34% of its health! The foe's Conkeldurr fainted! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Dan the Man sent out Gengar! Start of turn 8 Metagross used Bullet Punch! The foe's Gengar lost 64% of its health! The foe's Gengar used Hidden Power! It's super effective! Metagross lost 141 HP! (38% of its health) Metagross fainted! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Start of turn 9 Rotom-W used Volt Switch! The foe's Gengar lost 35% of its health! The foe's Gengar fainted! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Virizion! Dan the Man sent out Scizor! Start of turn 10 Virizion used Reflect! Reflect raised Amelie's team defense! The foe's Scizor used Bug Bite! Virizion lost 76 HP! (19% of its health) Start of turn 11 Virizion used Light Screen! Light Screen raised Amelie's team special defense! The foe's Scizor used Swords Dance! The foe's Scizor's Attack sharply rose! Start of turn 12 The foe's Scizor used Bullet Punch! Virizion lost 99 HP! (25% of its health) Virizion used Taunt! The foe's Scizor fell for the taunt! Start of turn 13 Amelie called Virizion back! Amelie sent out Victini! The foe's Scizor used Bug Bite! Victini lost 178 HP! (52% of its health) Start of turn 14 The foe's Scizor used Quick Attack! Victini lost 75 HP! (21% of its health) Victini used V-create! It's super effective! The foe's Scizor lost 99% of its health! The foe's Scizor hung on using its Focus Sash! Victini's Speed fell! Victini's Defense fell! Victini's Sp. Def. fell! Start of turn 15 The foe's Scizor used Quick Attack! Victini lost 88 HP! (25% of its health) Victini fainted! The foe's Scizor's taunt ended! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Start of turn 16 The foe's Scizor used Quick Attack! Rotom-W lost 81 HP! (33% of its health) Rotom-W used Volt Switch! The foe's Scizor lost 0% of its health! The foe's Scizor fainted! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Scizor! Dan the Man sent out Gorebyss! Start of turn 17 Scizor used Bullet Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Gorebyss lost 14% of its health! The foe's Gorebyss fainted! Amelie's reflect wore off! Dan the Man sent out Starmie! Start of turn 18 Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Virizion! The foe's Starmie used Hydro Pump! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 51 HP! (13% of its health) The foe's Starmie is hurt by its Life Orb! Amelie's light screen wore off! Start of turn 19 The foe's Starmie used Psychic! It's super effective! Virizion lost 160 HP! (41% of its health) Virizion fainted! The foe's Starmie is hurt by its Life Orb! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Start of turn 20 Rotom-W used Volt Switch! It's super effective! The foe's Starmie lost 80% of its health! The foe's Starmie fainted! Amelie won the battle! Amelie: gg ... Battle between mikemike and Amelie started! Tier: Standard OU Mode: Singles Variation: +11, -21 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Your team: Rotom-W / Victini / Vaporeon / Virizion / Scizor / Metagross Opponent's team: Azelf / Skarmory / Blissey / Breloom / Starmie / Lucario Amelie sent out Rotom-W! mikemike sent out Azelf! Start of turn 1 Rotom-W used Volt Switch! The foe's Azelf lost 54% of its health! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Scizor! The foe's Azelf used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around Amelie's team! Start of turn 2 mikemike called Azelf back! mikemike sent out Skarmory! Scizor used Bullet Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Skarmory lost 14% of its health! The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 3 Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Victini! Pointed stones dug into Victini! The foe's Skarmory used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Amelie's team! The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 4 mikemike called Skarmory back! mikemike sent out Starmie! Victini used V-create! It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 72% of its health! Victini's Speed fell! Victini's Defense fell! Victini's Sp. Def. fell! The foe's Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 5 Amelie called Victini back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! The foe's Starmie used Recover! The foe's Starmie regained health! The foe's Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 6 mikemike called Starmie back! mikemike sent out Breloom! Rotom-W used Volt Switch! It's not very effective... The foe's Breloom lost 28% of its health! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Victini! Pointed stones dug into Victini! Victini is hurt by spikes! The foe's Breloom's Toxic Orb activated! The foe's Breloom was poisoned! Start of turn 7 mikemike called Breloom back! mikemike sent out Starmie! Victini used V-create! It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 83% of its health! Victini's Speed fell! Victini's Defense fell! Victini's Sp. Def. fell! The foe's Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 8 The foe's Starmie used Surf! It's super effective! Victini lost 129 HP! (37% of its health) Victini fainted! The foe's Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! Start of turn 9 mikemike called Starmie back! mikemike sent out Breloom! Rotom-W used Volt Switch! It's not very effective... The foe's Breloom lost 29% of its health! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Scizor! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! Scizor is hurt by spikes! The foe's Breloom restored HP using its Poison Heal! Start of turn 10 Scizor used Bullet Punch! The foe's Breloom lost 54% of its health! The foe's Breloom fainted! mikemike sent out Skarmory! Start of turn 11 Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! The foe's Skarmory used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Amelie's team! The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 12 Rotom-W used Volt Switch! It's super effective! The foe's Skarmory lost 77% of its health! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! Pointed stones dug into Vaporeon! Vaporeon is hurt by spikes! The foe's Skarmory used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Amelie's team! The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 13 The foe's Skarmory used Roost! The foe's Skarmory landed on the ground! The foe's Skarmory regained health! Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Skarmory lost 39% of its health! The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 14 mikemike called Skarmory back! mikemike sent out Blissey! Amelie called Vaporeon back! Amelie sent out Virizion! Pointed stones dug into Virizion! Virizion is hurt by spikes! Start of turn 15 Virizion used Taunt! The foe's Blissey fell for the taunt! The foe's Blissey can't use Toxic after the taunt! Start of turn 16 mikemike called Blissey back! mikemike sent out Skarmory! Virizion used Reflect! Reflect raised Amelie's team defense! The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 17 Amelie called Virizion back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! The foe's Skarmory used Roost! The foe's Skarmory landed on the ground! The foe's Skarmory regained health! Start of turn 18 Rotom-W used Trick! Rotom-W switched items with the foe's Skarmory! Rotom-W obtained one Leftovers! The foe's Skarmory obtained one Choice Scarf! The foe's Skarmory used Whirlwind! Pointed stones dug into Virizion! Virizion is hurt by spikes! Virizion was dragged out! Start of turn 19 Virizion used Light Screen! Light Screen raised Amelie's team special defense! The foe's Skarmory used Whirlwind! Pointed stones dug into Vaporeon! Vaporeon is hurt by spikes! Vaporeon was dragged out! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 20 Vaporeon used Protect! Vaporeon protected itself! The foe's Skarmory used Whirlwind! Vaporeon protected itself! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 21 Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Skarmory lost 35% of its health! The foe's Skarmory was burned! The foe's Skarmory used Whirlwind! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! Scizor is hurt by spikes! Scizor was dragged out! The foe's Skarmory is hurt by its burn! Start of turn 22 Scizor used Superpower! The foe's Skarmory lost 38% of its health! Scizor's Attack fell! Scizor's Defense fell! The foe's Skarmory used Whirlwind! Pointed stones dug into Metagross! Metagross is hurt by spikes! Metagross was dragged out! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Skarmory is hurt by its burn! Start of turn 23 Metagross used Bullet Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Skarmory lost 0% of its health! The foe's Skarmory fainted! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Amelie's reflect wore off! mikemike sent out Starmie! Start of turn 24 Metagross used Bullet Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 14% of its health! The foe's Starmie used Recover! The foe's Starmie regained health! The foe's Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 25 The foe's Starmie used Recover! The foe's Starmie regained health! Metagross used Meteor Mash! It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 34% of its health! The foe's Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 26 Amelie called Metagross back! Amelie sent out Virizion! Pointed stones dug into Virizion! Virizion is hurt by spikes! The foe's Starmie used Surf! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 21 HP! (5% of its health) The foe's Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Amelie's light screen wore off! Start of turn 27 The foe's Starmie used Surf! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 5 HP! (1% of its health) Virizion fainted! The foe's Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Amelie sent out Scizor! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! Scizor is hurt by spikes! Start of turn 28 Scizor used Bullet Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 30% of its health! The foe's Starmie used Surf! Scizor lost 5 HP! (1% of its health) Scizor fainted! The foe's Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! Start of turn 29 The foe's Starmie used Thunderbolt! Rotom-W lost 66 HP! (27% of its health) Rotom-W used Volt Switch! It's super effective! The foe's Starmie lost 58% of its health! The foe's Starmie fainted! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Metagross! Pointed stones dug into Metagross! Metagross is hurt by spikes! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! mikemike sent out Azelf! Start of turn 30 Amelie called Metagross back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! Rotom-W fainted! The foe's Azelf used Explosion! The foe's Azelf fainted! But there was no target... Amelie sent out Vaporeon! Pointed stones dug into Vaporeon! Vaporeon is hurt by spikes! mikemike sent out Lucario! Start of turn 31 The foe's Lucario used ExtremeSpeed! Vaporeon lost 97 HP! (20% of its health) Vaporeon fainted! The foe's Lucario is hurt by its Life Orb! Amelie sent out Metagross! Pointed stones dug into Metagross! Metagross is hurt by spikes! Start of turn 32 The foe's Lucario used Close Combat! Metagross lost 135 HP! (37% of its health) Metagross fainted! The foe's Lucario's Defense fell! The foe's Lucario's Sp. Def. fell! The foe's Lucario is hurt by its Life Orb! mikemike won the battle! mikemike: gg Amelie: gg ... Battle between Shnabe and Amelie started! Tier: Standard OU Mode: Singles Variation: +15, -17 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Your team: Rotom-W / Victini / Vaporeon / Virizion / Scizor / Metagross Opponent's team: Togekiss / Haxorus / Espeon / Abomasnow / Metagross / Magmortar Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Shnabe sent out Togekiss! Start of turn 1 Rotom-W used Volt Switch! It's super effective! The foe's Togekiss lost 53% of its health! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Victini! The foe's Togekiss used Trick! The foe's Togekiss switched items with Victini! The foe's Togekiss obtained one Choice Band! Victini obtained one Sticky Barb! Victini is hurt by its Sticky Barb! Start of turn 2 The foe's Togekiss used ExtremeSpeed! Victini lost 132 HP! (38% of its health) Victini used V-create! A critical hit! The foe's Togekiss lost 46% of its health! The foe's Togekiss fainted! Victini's Speed fell! Victini's Defense fell! Victini's Sp. Def. fell! Victini is hurt by its Sticky Barb! Shnabe sent out Haxorus! Start of turn 3 The foe's Haxorus used Earthquake! It's super effective! Victini lost 125 HP! (36% of its health) Victini fainted! Amelie sent out Scizor! Start of turn 4 The foe's Haxorus used Substitute! The foe's Haxorus made a substitute! Scizor used U-turn! The foe's Haxorus's substitute faded! Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! The foe's Haxorus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 5 The foe's Haxorus used Substitute! The foe's Haxorus made a substitute! Vaporeon used Ice Beam! It's super effective! The foe's Haxorus's substitute faded! The foe's Haxorus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 6 Shnabe called Haxorus back! Shnabe sent out Metagross! Vaporeon used Ice Beam! It's not very effective... The foe's Metagross lost 12% of its health! The foe's Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 7 Amelie called Vaporeon back! Amelie sent out Scizor! The foe's Metagross used ThunderPunch! Scizor lost 82 HP! (23% of its health) Scizor is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The foe's Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 8 The foe's Metagross used Earthquake! Scizor lost 120 HP! (34% of its health) Scizor used U-turn! A critical hit! The foe's Metagross lost 90% of its health! Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! The foe's Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 9 Rotom-W used Volt Switch! The foe's Metagross lost 15% of its health! The foe's Metagross fainted! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! Shnabe sent out Espeon! Start of turn 10 The foe's Espeon used Substitute! The foe's Espeon made a substitute! Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Espeon's substitute faded! The foe's Espeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 11 The foe's Espeon used Swagger! Vaporeon's Attack sharply rose! Vaporeon became confused! Vaporeon is confused! Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Espeon lost 30% of its health! The foe's Espeon was burned! The foe's Espeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Espeon is hurt by its burn! Start of turn 12 Amelie called Vaporeon back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! The foe's Espeon used Psychic! Rotom-W lost 147 HP! (60% of its health) The foe's Espeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Espeon is hurt by its burn! Start of turn 13 Rotom-W used Volt Switch! The foe's Espeon lost 37% of its health! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Metagross! The foe's Espeon used Psychic! It's not very effective... Metagross lost 42 HP! (11% of its health) The foe's Espeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Espeon is hurt by its burn! The foe's Espeon fainted! Shnabe sent out Magmortar! Start of turn 14 Amelie called Metagross back! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! The foe's Magmortar used Fire Blast! It's not very effective... Vaporeon lost 99 HP! (21% of its health) Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 15 The foe's Magmortar used Thunderbolt! It's super effective! Vaporeon lost 192 HP! (41% of its health) Vaporeon used Wish! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 16 The foe's Magmortar used Thunderbolt! It's super effective! Vaporeon lost 206 HP! (44% of its health) Vaporeon used Scald! It's super effective! The foe's Magmortar lost 57% of its health! Vaporeon's wish came true! The foe's Magmortar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 17 The foe's Magmortar used Thunderbolt! It's super effective! Vaporeon lost 196 HP! (42% of its health) Vaporeon is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! Vaporeon is paralyzed! It can't move! The foe's Magmortar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 18 Vaporeon is paralyzed! It can't move! The foe's Magmortar used Thunderbolt! It's super effective! Vaporeon lost 113 HP! (24% of its health) Vaporeon fainted! The foe's Magmortar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Start of turn 19 Rotom-W used Hydro Pump! It's super effective! The foe's Magmortar lost 60% of its health! The foe's Magmortar fainted! Shnabe sent out Abomasnow! The foe's Abomasnow's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm! Start of turn 20 Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Metagross! The foe's Abomasnow used Giga Drain! It's not very effective... Metagross lost 54 HP! (14% of its health) Metagross had its energy drained! Hail continues to fall! Metagross is buffeted by the hail! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 21 The foe's Abomasnow used Blizzard! It's not very effective... Metagross lost 77 HP! (21% of its health) Metagross used Meteor Mash! It's super effective! ... Battle between Amelie and Diamond Eagle started! Tier: Standard OU Mode: Singles Variation: +24, -8 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Your team: Rotom-W / Victini / Vaporeon / Virizion / Scizor / Metagross Opponent's team: Tyranitar / Terrakion / Carracosta / Scizor / Gliscor / Landorus Diamond Eagle sent out Carracosta! Amelie sent out Virizion! Start of turn 1 Virizion used Reflect! Reflect raised Amelie's team defense! The foe's Carracosta used Shell Smash! The foe's Carracosta's Defense fell! The foe's Carracosta's Sp. Def. fell! The foe's Carracosta's Attack sharply rose! The foe's Carracosta's Sp. Att. sharply rose! The foe's Carracosta's Speed sharply rose! The foe's Carracosta restored its stats using White Herb! Start of turn 2 The foe's Carracosta used Stone Edge! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 72 HP! (18% of its health) Virizion used Giga Drain! It's super effective! A critical hit! The foe's Carracosta lost 99% of its health! The foe's Carracosta held on thanks to Sturdy! The foe's Carracosta had its energy drained! Start of turn 3 The foe's Carracosta used Waterfall! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 54 HP! (13% of its health) Virizion flinched! Start of turn 4 The foe's Carracosta used Waterfall! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 55 HP! (14% of its health) Virizion used Giga Drain! It's super effective! The foe's Carracosta lost 0% of its health! The foe's Carracosta fainted! The foe's Carracosta had its energy drained! Diamond Eagle sent out Gliscor! Start of turn 5 Amelie called Virizion back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! The foe's Gliscor used Swords Dance! The foe's Gliscor's Attack sharply rose! Start of turn 6 The foe's Gliscor used Protect! The foe's Gliscor protected itself! Rotom-W used Hydro Pump! The foe's Gliscor protected itself! Start of turn 7 Rotom-W used Hydro Pump! It's super effective! The foe's Gliscor lost 100% of its health! The foe's Gliscor fainted! Diamond Eagle sent out Terrakion! Start of turn 8 Rotom-W used Hydro Pump! It's super effective! The foe's Terrakion lost 99% of its health! The foe's Terrakion hung on using its Focus Sash! The foe's Terrakion used Rock Polish! The foe's Terrakion's Speed sharply rose! Amelie's reflect wore off! Start of turn 9 The foe's Terrakion used Close Combat! Rotom-W lost 204 HP! (84% of its health) The foe's Terrakion's Defense fell! The foe's Terrakion's Sp. Def. fell! Rotom-W used Hydro Pump! The attack of Rotom-W missed! Diamond Eagle: lol Start of turn 10 The foe's Terrakion used Close Combat! Rotom-W lost 38 HP! (15% of its health) Rotom-W fainted! The foe's Terrakion's Defense fell! The foe's Terrakion's Sp. Def. fell! Amelie sent out Metagross! Start of turn 11 Metagross used Bullet Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Terrakion lost 0% of its health! The foe's Terrakion fainted! Diamond Eagle sent out Landorus! Start of turn 12 Amelie called Metagross back! Amelie sent out Virizion! The foe's Landorus used Earthquake! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 81 HP! (20% of its health) Start of turn 13 The foe's Landorus used Earthquake! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 84 HP! (21% of its health) Virizion used Reflect! Reflect raised Amelie's team defense! Start of turn 14 The foe's Landorus used Earthquake! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 39 HP! (10% of its health) Virizion used Giga Drain! A critical hit! The foe's Landorus lost 59% of its health! The foe's Landorus had its energy drained! Start of turn 15 Diamond Eagle called Landorus back! Diamond Eagle sent out Scizor! Virizion used Giga Drain! It's not very effective... The foe's Scizor lost 6% of its health! The foe's Scizor had its energy drained! Start of turn 16 Amelie called Virizion back! Amelie sent out Victini! The foe's Scizor used U-turn! Victini lost 102 HP! (29% of its health) Diamond Eagle called Scizor back! Diamond Eagle sent out Tyranitar! The foe's Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm! The sandstorm rages! Victini is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 17 The foe's Tyranitar used Crunch! It's super effective! Victini lost 156 HP! (45% of its health) Victini used Brick Break! It's super effective! The foe's Tyranitar lost 100% of its health! The foe's Tyranitar fainted! The sandstorm rages! Victini is buffeted by the sandstorm! Diamond Eagle sent out Landorus! Start of turn 18 The foe's Landorus used Stone Edge! It's super effective! Victini lost 41 HP! (12% of its health) Victini fainted! The sandstorm rages! Amelie sent out Scizor! Start of turn 19 Scizor used Bullet Punch! The foe's Landorus lost 40% of its health! The foe's Landorus fainted! The sandstorm rages! Diamond Eagle sent out Scizor! Start of turn 20 Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Virizion! The foe's Scizor used U-turn! Virizion lost 88 HP! (22% of its health) The sandstorm rages! Virizion is buffeted by the sandstorm! Amelie's reflect wore off! Start of turn 21 Virizion used Reflect! Reflect raised Amelie's team defense! The foe's Scizor used U-turn! A critical hit! Virizion lost 68 HP! (17% of its health) Virizion fainted! The sandstorm rages! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! Start of turn 22 The foe's Scizor used U-turn! Vaporeon lost 99 HP! (21% of its health) Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Scizor lost 33% of its health! The sandstorm rages! Vaporeon is buffeted by the sandstorm! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! ... Battle between Amelie and Forever-D started! Tier: Standard OU Mode: Singles Variation: +18, -14 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Your team: Rotom-W / Victini / Vaporeon / Virizion / Scizor / Metagross Opponent's team: Abomasnow / Rotom-H / Tentacruel / Froslass / Mamoswine / Blissey Forever-D sent out Abomasnow! Amelie sent out Scizor! The foe's Abomasnow's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm! Start of turn 1 Forever-D called Abomasnow back! Forever-D sent out Rotom-H! Scizor used U-turn! It's not very effective... The foe's Rotom-H lost 38% of its health! Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Hail continues to fall! The foe's Rotom-H is buffeted by the hail! Rotom-W is buffeted by the hail! Start of turn 2 The foe's Rotom-H used Volt Switch! Rotom-W lost 109 HP! (45% of its health) Forever-D called Rotom-H back! Forever-D sent out Abomasnow! Rotom-W used Volt Switch! It's not very effective... The foe's Abomasnow lost 17% of its health! Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Scizor! Hail continues to fall! Scizor is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Abomasnow restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 3 Forever-D called Abomasnow back! Forever-D sent out Tentacruel! Scizor used U-turn! It's not very effective... The foe's Tentacruel lost 25% of its health! Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Hail continues to fall! Rotom-W is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Tentacruel is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 4 Forever-D called Tentacruel back! Forever-D sent out Mamoswine! Rotom-W used Volt Switch! The attack of Rotom-W missed! Hail continues to fall! Rotom-W is buffeted by the hail! Start of turn 5 Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! The foe's Mamoswine used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around Amelie's team! Hail continues to fall! Vaporeon is buffeted by the hail! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 6 Forever-D called Mamoswine back! Forever-D sent out Tentacruel! Vaporeon used Scald! It's not very effective... A critical hit! The foe's Tentacruel lost 25% of its health! Hail continues to fall! The foe's Tentacruel is buffeted by the hail! Vaporeon is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 7 Amelie called Vaporeon back! Amelie sent out Virizion! Pointed stones dug into Virizion! The foe's Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes! Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of Amelie's team! Hail continues to fall! Virizion is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Tentacruel is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 8 Forever-D called Tentacruel back! Forever-D sent out Rotom-H! Virizion used Taunt! The foe's Rotom-H fell for the taunt! Hail continues to fall! The foe's Rotom-H is buffeted by the hail! Virizion is buffeted by the hail! Start of turn 9 Amelie called Virizion back! Amelie sent out Victini! Pointed stones dug into Victini! Victini was poisoned! The foe's Rotom-H used Overheat! It's not very effective... Victini lost 112 HP! (32% of its health) The foe's Rotom-H's Sp. Att. sharply fell! Hail continues to fall! The foe's Rotom-H is buffeted by the hail! Victini is buffeted by the hail! Victini is hurt by poison! Start of turn 10 Forever-D called Rotom-H back! Forever-D sent out Blissey! Victini used V-create! The foe's Blissey lost 100% of its health! The foe's Blissey fainted! Victini's Speed fell! Victini's Defense fell! Victini's Sp. Def. fell! Hail continues to fall! Victini is buffeted by the hail! Victini is hurt by poison! Forever-D: -.- Amelie: cb vcreate is life <3 Forever-D sent out Abomasnow! Start of turn 11 The foe's Abomasnow used Ice Shard! It's not very effective... Victini lost 18 HP! (5% of its health) Victini fainted! Hail continues to fall! The foe's Abomasnow restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Amelie sent out Scizor! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! Start of turn 12 Forever-D called Abomasnow back! Forever-D sent out Rotom-H! Scizor used U-turn! It's not very effective... The foe's Rotom-H lost 41% of its health! Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Metagross! Pointed stones dug into Metagross! Hail continues to fall! The foe's Rotom-H is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Rotom-H fainted! Metagross is buffeted by the hail! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Forever-D sent out Mamoswine! Start of turn 13 Amelie called Metagross back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! The foe's Mamoswine used Earthquake! It had no effect! Hail continues to fall! Rotom-W is buffeted by the hail! Start of turn 14 Forever-D called Mamoswine back! Forever-D sent out Abomasnow! Rotom-W used Hydro Pump! It's not very effective... The foe's Abomasnow lost 29% of its health! Hail continues to fall! Rotom-W is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Abomasnow restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 15 Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Scizor! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! The foe's Abomasnow used Ice Shard! It's not very effective... Scizor lost 32 HP! (9% of its health) Hail continues to fall! Scizor is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Abomasnow restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 16 Forever-D called Abomasnow back! Forever-D sent out Tentacruel! Scizor used U-turn! It's not very effective... The foe's Tentacruel lost 26% of its health! Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! Rotom-W fainted! Hail continues to fall! The foe's Tentacruel is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Amelie sent out Scizor! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! Start of turn 17 Scizor used Bullet Punch! It's not very effective... The foe's Tentacruel lost 21% of its health! The foe's Tentacruel used Scald! Scizor lost 103 HP! (30% of its health) Scizor was burned! Hail continues to fall! The foe's Tentacruel is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Tentacruel fainted! Scizor is buffeted by the hail! Scizor is hurt by its burn! Scizor fainted! Forever-D sent out Froslass! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! Pointed stones dug into Vaporeon! Vaporeon was poisoned! Start of turn 18 The foe's Froslass used Substitute! The foe's Froslass made a substitute! Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Froslass's substitute faded! Hail continues to fall! Vaporeon is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Froslass restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon is hurt by poison! Start of turn 19 The foe's Froslass used Substitute! The foe's Froslass made a substitute! Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Froslass's substitute faded! Hail continues to fall! Vaporeon is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Froslass restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon is hurt by poison! Start of turn 20 The foe's Froslass used Substitute! The foe's Froslass made a substitute! Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Froslass's substitute faded! Hail continues to fall! Vaporeon is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Froslass restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon is hurt by poison! Start of turn 21 The foe's Froslass used Substitute! The foe's Froslass made a substitute! Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Froslass's substitute faded! Hail continues to fall! Vaporeon is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Froslass restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon is hurt by poison! Start of turn 22 The foe's Froslass used Blizzard! It's not very effective... Vaporeon lost 81 HP! (17% of its health) Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Froslass lost 24% of its health! The foe's Froslass fainted! Hail continues to fall! Vaporeon is buffeted by the hail! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon is hurt by poison! Forever-D sent out Abomasnow! Start of turn 23 The foe's Abomasnow used Substitute! The foe's Abomasnow made a substitute! Vaporeon used Scald! It's not very effective... The foe's Abomasnow's substitute took the damage! Hail continues to fall! Vaporeon is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Abomasnow restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon is hurt by poison! Vaporeon fainted! Amelie sent out Metagross! Pointed stones dug into Metagross! Start of turn 24 The foe's Abomasnow is tightening its focus! Metagross used Bullet Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Abomasnow's substitute faded! The foe's Abomasnow used Focus Punch! Metagross lost 117 HP! (32% of its health) Hail continues to fall! Metagross is buffeted by the hail! The foe's Abomasnow restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 25 The foe's Abomasnow used Ice Shard! It's not very effective... Metagross lost 24 HP! (6% of its health) Metagross used Meteor Mash! It's super effective! The foe's Abomasnow lost 64% of its health! The foe's Abomasnow fainted! Hail continues to fall! Metagross is buffeted by the hail! Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Forever-D sent out Mamoswine! Start of turn 26 Metagross used Bullet Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Mamoswine lost 41% of its health! The foe's Mamoswine used Earthquake! It's super effective! Metagross lost 179 HP! (49% of its health) Metagross fainted! Hail continues to fall! The foe's Mamoswine restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Amelie sent out Virizion! Pointed stones dug into Virizion! Virizion was poisoned! Start of turn 27 Virizion used Giga Drain! It's super effective! The foe's Mamoswine lost 64% of its health! The foe's Mamoswine fainted! The foe's Mamoswine had its energy drained! Amelie won the battle! Amelie: gg Forever-D: gg ... Battle between Amelie and Sosido started! Tier: Standard OU Mode: Singles Variation: +12, -20 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Your team: Rotom-W / Victini / Vaporeon / Virizion / Scizor / Metagross Opponent's team: Bronzong / Volcarona / Gyarados / Gastrodon / Scizor / Gliscor Sosido sent out Gohdan! (Bronzong) Amelie sent out Victini! Start of turn 1 Victini used Fusion Bolt! The foe's Gohdan lost 37% of its health! The foe's Gohdan used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around Amelie's team! The foe's Gohdan restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 2 Amelie called Victini back! Amelie sent out Scizor! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! The foe's Gohdan used Sandstorm! A sandstorm brewed! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Gohdan restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 3 Scizor used U-turn! The foe's Gohdan lost 51% of its health! Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Victini! Pointed stones dug into Victini! The foe's Gohdan used Hidden Power! It's not very effective... Victini lost 23 HP! (6% of its health) The sandstorm rages! Victini is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Gohdan restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 4 Victini used V-create! It's super effective! The foe's Gohdan lost 29% of its health! The foe's Gohdan fainted! Victini's Speed fell! Victini's Defense fell! Victini's Sp. Def. fell! The sandstorm rages! Victini is buffeted by the sandstorm! Sosido sent out Goober! (Gastrodon) Start of turn 5 Amelie called Victini back! Amelie sent out Virizion! Pointed stones dug into Virizion! The foe's Goober used Scald! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 42 HP! (10% of its health) The sandstorm rages! Virizion is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 6 Sosido called Goober back! Sosido sent out Mandy! (Scizor) Virizion used Light Screen! Light Screen raised Amelie's team special defense! The sandstorm subsided! Start of turn 7 Virizion used Reflect! Reflect raised Amelie's team defense! The foe's Mandy used Bug Bite! Virizion lost 93 HP! (24% of its health) The foe's Mandy is hurt by its Life Orb! Start of turn 8 Amelie called Virizion back! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! Pointed stones dug into Vaporeon! The foe's Mandy used Swords Dance! The foe's Mandy's Attack sharply rose! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 9 The foe's Mandy used Bullet Punch! It's not very effective... Vaporeon lost 64 HP! (13% of its health) The foe's Mandy is hurt by its Life Orb! Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Mandy lost 38% of its health! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 10 The foe's Mandy used Bug Bite! Vaporeon lost 204 HP! (44% of its health) The foe's Mandy is hurt by its Life Orb! Vaporeon used Scald! The foe's Mandy lost 31% of its health! The foe's Mandy fainted! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Sosido sent out Goober! (Gastrodon) Start of turn 11 Vaporeon used Wish! The foe's Goober used Toxic! Vaporeon was poisoned! Vaporeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Vaporeon is hurt by poison! Start of turn 12 Amelie called Vaporeon back! Amelie sent out Scizor! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! The foe's Goober used Earth Power! Scizor lost 69 HP! (20% of its health) Scizor's Sp. Def. fell! Vaporeon's wish came true! Start of turn 13 Scizor used U-turn! The foe's Goober lost 58% of its health! Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Virizion! Pointed stones dug into Virizion! The foe's Goober used Scald! It's not very effective... Virizion lost 22 HP! (5% of its health) Virizion was burned! The foe's Goober restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Virizion is hurt by its burn! Amelie's light screen wore off! Start of turn 14 Sosido called Goober back! Sosido sent out Cleo! (Volcarona) Virizion used Giga Drain! It's not very effective... The foe's Cleo lost 6% of its health! The foe's Cleo had its energy drained! The foe's Cleo restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Virizion is hurt by its burn! Amelie's reflect wore off! Start of turn 15 Amelie called Virizion back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! The foe's Cleo used Fiery Dance! It's not very effective... Rotom-W lost 63 HP! (26% of its health) Start of turn 16 Sosido called Cleo back! Sosido sent out Goober! (Gastrodon) Rotom-W used Hydro Pump! The foe's Goober's Storm Drain raised its special attack! The foe's Goober restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 17 Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Scizor! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! The foe's Goober used Earth Power! Scizor lost 205 HP! (59% of its health) The foe's Goober restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 18 Scizor used U-turn! The foe's Goober lost 59% of its health! The foe's Goober fainted! Amelie called Scizor back! Amelie sent out Victini! Pointed stones dug into Victini! Sosido sent out Cleo! (Volcarona) Start of turn 19 Victini used V-create! The foe's Cleo lost 100% of its health! The foe's Cleo fainted! Victini's Speed fell! Victini's Defense fell! Victini's Sp. Def. fell! Sosido sent out Gyarados! Start of turn 20 Amelie called Victini back! Amelie sent out Rotom-W! Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W! The foe's Gyarados used Stone Edge! Rotom-W lost 108 HP! (44% of its health) Start of turn 21 Rotom-W used Volt Switch! It's super effective! The foe's Gyarados lost 100% of its health! The foe's Gyarados fainted! Sosido: :( Amelie called Rotom-W back! Amelie sent out Scizor! Pointed stones dug into Scizor! Sosido sent out Scipio! (Gliscor) Start of turn 22 Scizor used Bullet Punch! The foe's Scipio lost 51% of its health! The foe's Scipio used Earthquake! Scizor lost 54 HP! (15% of its health) Scizor fainted! Amelie sent out Vaporeon! Pointed stones dug into Vaporeon! Start of turn 23 The foe's Scipio used Acrobatics! The foe's Scipio's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power! Vaporeon lost 165 HP! (35% of its health) Vaporeon fainted! Amelie sent out Metagross! Pointed stones dug into Metagross! Start of turn 24 The foe's Scipio used Swords Dance! The foe's Scipio's Attack sharply rose! Metagross used Meteor Mash! The foe's Scipio lost 48% of its health! The foe's Scipio fainted! Amelie won the battle! Amelie: gg Sosido: DANG IT!

Dec 15th, 2011, 3:29:57 PM	#21
BurningMan Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,029	I think you should run at least 32 Spe EVs to outrun Max spe Adamant Dragonite so you can taunt it before it sets up effortless on you. I also agree with Pocket that 252 Spe or at least enough Speed to outrun max+ Base 101s sounds alot more practicable than going so defensive, because the main users of dual screens are HO teams that usually need to set-up the screens fast and often only once. I am not really sure if this set should be on-site at all, because there are so many other dual screeners that will do the job better 99% of the time. I see that virzions huge boon in this regard is its typing and the surprise value, however the latis have a similar typing and especially as a Dual Screener being Pursuit weak isn't that bad.

Dec 15th, 2011, 4:04:16 PM	#22
Danilo Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,713 http://justsmogonthings.tumblr.com/	I don't like this set much either. I guess it's decent screener for more balanced teams because it's bulky, but I feel like I rather run a screening Alakazam most of the time. __________________ kael: =\\ kael: fuck kael: pako kael: I WANT DESTROY HE kael: HE DON'T RESPECT ME

Dec 15th, 2011, 4:57:58 PM	#24
Danilo Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,713 http://justsmogonthings.tumblr.com/	I realize that Alakazam is only better on offensive teams, but I just said I rather run him because I generally play heavy offense or stall. This set seems nice on a balanced team(as I stated) since it's rather bulky and doesn't really need screens to take some hits. __________________ kael: =\\ kael: fuck kael: pako kael: I WANT DESTROY HE kael: HE DON'T RESPECT ME

Dec 19th, 2011, 3:00:18 PM	#25
Snorlaxe #bossniggaprobs Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,232	it's been a little while. can i get some QC members' inputs on this set?