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[Omicron]

Sheer Force only boosts move with a chance of a secondary effect such as paralysis from Thunder, burn from Scald, poison from Sludge Bomb, etc. It also only works for moves who's secondary effect affects the opponent. So in other words, no, and no :P

[Pippy]

Alright, thanks

[Mushroomist]

Can someone tell me how I can get a Gastly in the Spooky Manor on DW please? I'm making a new Gengar. Thanks! xD

[DDRMaster]

Originally Posted by Fat Mushroomist

Can someone tell me how I can get a Gastly in the Spooky Manor on DW please? I'm making a new Gengar. Thanks! xD

It's completely random. Just keep going to the Dream World every day until you get a Gastly. You could also go here to ask someone to trade you a Gastly.

[Mushroomist]

Originally Posted by Fat DDRMaster

It's completely random. Just keep going to the Dream World every day until you get a Gastly. You could also go here to ask someone to trade you a Gastly.

Thanks, I'll try that today (:

[The QWAZ]

What is a good counter to tech breloom? it always beats up my team

[Animals]

Xatu is a really good counter to TechniLoom. Resisting both Mach Punch and Bullet Seed, bouncing back Spore, and being able to hit it with STAB Psychic makes it pretty solid

[DDRMaster]

Xatu with Bold and 252 HP/200 Def/56 Spe is your best bet. It can take anything but Rock Tomb from Breloom, outspeed it, and OHKO it with Psychic.

[Danilo]

Chandelure is also a good check if you have already had something used as sleep fodder. Chandelure resist Breloom's STABs, and then traps and ohkos with her Fire-type STAB of choice

[The QWAZ]

Xatu with Bold and 252 HP/200 Def/56 Spe is your best bet. It can take anything but Rock Tomb from Breloom, outspeed it, and OHKO it with Psychic.

would an espeon work because xatu doesnt have enough offensive presence for my team style

[DDRMaster]

Originally Posted by Fat The QWAZ

would an espeon work because xatu doesnt have enough offensive presence for my team style

Espeon can check Breloom but it gets OHKO'd by Bullet Seed and Mach Punch has a small chance to 2HKO if Espeon takes SR damage. Gliscor would likely be a better offensive counter to Breloom, as Toxic Orb makes it immune to Spore and it can KO Breloom with Aerial Ace or Acrobatics.

[The QWAZ]

okay ill try xatu
EDIT: scarf gensect can flame it to death thanks for the help thought guys

[Tomahawk9]

Originally Posted by Fat The QWAZ

okay ill try xatu
EDIT: scarf gensect can flame it to death thanks for the help thought guys

Not really. +2 Mach Punch from Technician Breloom (the standard is Spore / Swords Dance / Mach Punch / Bullet Seed) does 103% mimum to 0 HP / 0 Def Genesect with a neutral nature, so that's a guaranteed KO even without Stealth Rock. Even Choice Band sets mess up Genesect, as Gensect is OHKOed by Superpower, or even Drain Punch after Stealth Rock.

There are several good Breloom checks though, bar Xatu. Note that for all of the following, they can't absorb Spore unless mentioned otherwise, so keep that in mind:

Chandelure is immune to Mach Punch and resists Bullet Seed, while it outspeeds, traps and OHKOes Breloom with Fire Blast. However, if Bullet Seed hits five times, Chandelure is OHKOed, and also risks being KOed by four hits in a row if Stealth Rock is up.

Dragonite is an excellent counter to Breloom, as it isn't even KOed by a +2 Bullet Seed that hits five times, even after Stealth Rock. It also outspeeds Breloom, and OHKOes with STAB Hurricane if you're using a rain team. Otherwise, Dragonite can use the following set very effectively:


Dragonite @ Lum Berry
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Fire Punch
- ExtremeSpeed / Earthquake

Thanks to Lum Berry, Dragonite can safely switchin on every move, even Spore. Dragonite can Dragon Dance up, and OHKO Breloom with Outrage or Fire Punch. This set can easily sweep many teams, though I advice you pair this with a Rapid Spinner to keep Stealth Rock intact.

Good luck!

[Anchormon]

Just pointing out that Sigilyph feels like a pretty solid option against Breloom, provided it doesn't switch into a Spore before the Flame Orb is activated. Just have to be careful Psycho Shifting the burn, as it will leave Sigilyph susceptible to Spore on that turn. It also lacks an immediate offensive presence, so that may not suit your team.

I'm looking to get into this metagame. It seems really fun compared to current OU. I'm trying to throw an initial team together just so I can learn the ropes a little, and I was wondering which threats are the most prevalent. From what I gather, Scarf Chandelure, Techniloom, Keldeo, Genesect, Tyranitar, Manaphy, Excadrill, Garchomp, and Scarf Ditto are all very dangerous. Is there anything else I'm missing that I absolutely need to be prepared for?

[Danilo]

Once you get higher on the ladder, Mamoswine is everywhere, so watch out for that. You missed Blazikien buy im sure you just forgot to write about it. Those cover most of the offensive threats

[bluemon]

Will there be a suspect testing thingy that will allow us to get that check-badge?

I am laddering quite well, that's why :D

[V0x]

Originally Posted by Fat bluemon

Will there be a suspect testing thingy that will allow us to get that check-badge?

I am laddering quite well, that's why :D

No, DW has a tiering council like the other tiers.

[Omicron]

Refer to this thread for more information on the DW Council.

[Triangles]

Are combinations of moves that are illegal in Wifi OU legal in DW OU?

[SkullCandy]

Originally Posted by Fat Triangles

Are combinations of moves that are illegal in Wifi OU legal in DW OU?

No. Combinations of moves such as Spikes+Stealth Rock+Leech Seed on Ferrothorn are still illegal.

[Triangles]

How about normally illegal combos of moves and abilities, such as the Belly Drum Drizzletoed that was suggested in the DW OU CCAT?

[Matthew]

Originally Posted by Fat Triangles

How about normally illegal combos of moves and abilities, such as the Belly Drum Drizzletoed that was suggested in the DW OU CCAT?

Egg moves and DW abilities are legal now since we assume that the pokemon has been released in both male and female forms. However things like SuperPower Mamoswine is still illegal with Thick Fat because that was a 4th Gen tutor move.

[The QWAZ]

My team needs a spin blocker and i was thinking, would trickscarf gengar be good, i really want to keep away from chandy as it is far to slow for my teams liking

[V0x]

Originally Posted by Fat The QWAZ

My team needs a spin blocker and i was thinking, would trickscarf gengar be good, i really want to keep away from chandy as it is far to slow for my teams liking

What does the rest of your team look like? Having the full picture will help us determine what kind of spinblocker fits best.

[The QWAZ]

my team is
DEO-S
stealth rock
spikes
taunt
ice beam
HITMONTOP
rapid spin
mach punch
fake out
sucker punch
BLAZIKEN
protect
swords dance
hi jump kick
flare blitz
CLOYSTER
shell smash
Icicle spear
rock blast
razor shell
SALAMENCE
outrage
earthquake
draco meteor
fire blast


there you go