Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (DS, June in JP, Fall in EU/NA/AU) - Updated May 12th

[soul_survivor]

Im leaning more towards a N final battle. You find him at some mountain to which the final battle commences. He'll use the opposite legendary and it should be in the 80's range(like red)


If you think about it, its more suitable. No one seen him for 2 years though he might have more of a story role.

[sandman]

Im expecting a Red style battle with N or BW protagonist but on their final teams, I wouldn't be surprised though if N or the past protagonist let their dragon go. Reason being is the third games have always allowed you to catch the 2 mascots from previous games and because this is a direct sequel, that seems like the only way to get at least one of them.

[PkmnTrainerNathan]

I'd Have to agree, It would make sense that none of the Sages have heard from Him. I'd really hope you could battle him or someone signifigant like BW1's protagonist.

[Doom Chaos]

How about it's both N AND Black. (By the way, Hilbert is a terrible name)

They both are rivals, it wouldn't make sense to have only one instead of both. Red and Blue always are in the same games together. Black and N should follow the same patern.

[keleyeemoh]

Originally Posted by Fat KevlarX290

I don't see why he would have all 3 starters. He only grabbed one, Bianca and Cheren got the others. Instead of 2 starters, he would have a Simi and a Liligant/Darmanitan/Jellicent or something.

You know, that's actually interesting. What if his team changes based on both your starter and the game you're playing? It could look something like this:

Based on starter:
Serperior/Emboar/Samurott
Simipour/Simisage/Simisear
Darmanitan/Jellicent/Ferrothorn (or Chandelure/Seismitoad/Leavanny?)

Based on game:
Reshiram/Zekrom
Gothitelle/Reuniclus
Mandibuzz/Braviary

That's 9 possible teams he could have, which would be really interesting. I think this looks more plausible than any other speculations so far.

[Purimpopoie]

Originally Posted by Fat Doom Chaos

(By the way, Hilbert is a terrible name)

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They both are rivals, it wouldn't make sense to have only one instead of both. Red and Blue always are in the same games together. Black and N should follow the same patern.

Other than the fact that N's more closely related to Team Plasma than being your rival, I just hope that we're not forced to fight ol' 'bert when some of us played through the game as Hilda.

Originally Posted by Fat keleyeemoh

You know, that's actually interesting. What if his team changes based on both your starter and the game you're playing? It could look something like this:

Based on starter:
Serperior/Emboar/Samurott
Simipour/Simisage/Simisear
Darmanitan/Jellicent/Ferrothorn (or Chandelure/Seismitoad/Leavanny?)

Based on game:
Reshiram/Zekrom
Gothitelle/Reuniclus
Mandibuzz/Braviary

That's 9 possible teams he could have, which would be really interesting. I think this looks more plausible than any other speculations so far.

As interesting as something like this is, they'll probably cop-out with a team of Serperior/Emboar/Samurott/Dragon/filler/filler.

Thinking about it, there's not a lot of Gift Pokémon in Black/White, is there? I guess the last two slots could be Zoroark and Volcarona, since those are the only non-Starter dependant Gift Pokémon in those games. Thought I'd honestly prefer the Goth/Reuni and Mandi/Brav thing above.

[R_N]

Serperior/Emboar/Samurott/Simisage/Simisear/Simipour


Troll Freak gonna Troll

[Mario With Lasers]

[Reshiram/Zekrom]
[Leavanny/Ferrothorn/Sawsbuck]
[Darmanitan/Chandelure/Volcarona]
[Jellicent/Seismitoad/Alomomola]
Sigilyph
Stunfisk

The obvious dragon, a FWG core without starters (which still depends on the starter you chose), a Flying pokémon because even NPCs know Fly is an essential HM (seriously, is there a Rival with no Flying pokémon?), and the god of Pokémon.

Swag.

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

[Reshiram/Zekrom]
[Leavanny/Ferrothorn/Sawsbuck]
[Darmanitan/Chandelure/Volcarona]
[Jellicent/Seismitoad/Alomomola]
Sigilyph
Stunfisk

The obvious dragon, a FWG core without starters (which still depends on the starter you chose), a Flying pokémon because even NPCs know Fly is an essential HM (seriously, is there a Rival with no Flying pokémon?), and the god of Pokémon.

Swag.

Bianca, despite having the Fly HM, does not have a Pokemon that uses Fly.

This is probably why it took her so long to get to Striaton.

[Mario With Lasers]

Why would she need Fly when the Shadow Triad can teleport at will

[one rush]

you know When i start to think about it........how did ghetis get the lustrous orb& adamant orb

[StallMandibuzz]

Originally Posted by Fat one rush

you know When i start to think about it........how did ghetis get the lustrous orb& adamant orb

He has mysterious ways to get things. He'll probably be back, I'm sure. Or other people will enact Ghetsis's vengeance for him. He had the Grisious Orb too. Makes you think that Ghetsis and Cyrus might have known each other. Or Ghetsis originated from Sinnoh, perhaps?

[Naxte]

Old post, but...

Originally Posted by Fat Purimpopoie

Opelucid's design is different between Black and White Version. In Black Version, it's a technological city that's forgotten it's past to strive for a brighter future. The only old building in the city is the Gym, and it looks like they're about to remodel that, too. (As far as I recall, I played White Version. Speaking of...).

Opelucid Black

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In White Version, Opelucid is a town that honors the past so much that it hasn't changed much since ancient times. All the buildings are in an old style.

Opelucid White

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If the Anime went there, they'd have to pick one of the two designs, putting Ash in whatever version that reflected. No Opelucid? No problem.

EDIT: Crap, Ninja'd while I added pictures and stuff...

There is a third option though: the anime creates their own version of Opelucid, which in no way resembles either of the in-game versions. Them changing a town to that degree wouldn't exactly be without precedent either. There was no reason Pacfidlog really needed to be visited in the anime (or rather, why the town as shown actually needed to be called Pacfidlog and wasn't made into some anime-only town) as there's no Gyms, Contest Halls, or anything of consequence period there in the games, but yet they added it in anyway, redesigned it, and even had May get a Ribbon there. So you never really can say for sure with this type of thing.

[The Knights of Wario Land]

I can probably see N being like a secret boss or something in the World Tournament.

And I also read somewhere on TV Tropes that Giovanni killed himself after the battle with him in HGSS, why is he here again?

[Purimpopoie]

Originally Posted by Fat Naxte

Old post, but...

There is a third option though: the anime creates their own version of Opelucid, which in no way resembles either of the in-game versions. Them changing a town to that degree wouldn't exactly be without precedent either. There was no reason Pacfidlog really needed to be visited in the anime (or rather, why the town as shown actually needed to be called Pacfidlog and wasn't made into some anime-only town) as there's no Gyms, Contest Halls, or anything of consequence period there in the games, but yet they added it in anyway, redesigned it, and even had May get a Ribbon there. So you never really can say for sure with this type of thing.

True, but that'd just be lazy and uninteresting. "Which version is Ash in? He's in Grey!" "But there is no Gr-" "SHUT UP, BRAT!"

Originally Posted by Fat The Knights of Wario Land

And I also read somewhere on TV Tropes that Giovanni killed himself after the battle with him in HGSS, why is he here again?

Because he didn't really die, I'd assume. When he loses to the player in HGSS, he leaves the cave and you hear a splash outside with the waterfall. People just kinda assumed he jumped down and offed himself, but I guess he was just tactically retreating.

[Saboros]

Originally Posted by Fat StallMandibuzz

He has mysterious ways to get things. He'll probably be back, I'm sure. Or other people will enact Ghetsis's vengeance for him. He had the Grisious Orb too. Makes you think that Ghetsis and Cyrus might have known each other. Or Ghetsis originated from Sinnoh, perhaps?

The only person to get the orbs was supposed to be the protagonist of the DPP series. So maybe, just maybe, he grew out his hair, changed his name to Ghetsis, stole Vegeta's scouter and created team plasma. Somewhat of a long-shot though....

[one rush]

if that's true then how did he get N?

[Saboros]

Originally Posted by Fat one rush

if that's true then how did he get N?

Well he and N aren't actually related. I don't remember exactly, but N was sorta adopted by Ghetsis or something.

[R_N]

Why do people keep saying the Pt protagonist is the only one that could get the orbs
2 thirds of them were literally sitting in a cave
The other, admittedly, was in an otherworldly portal but it wasn't exactly a long trek

All three were completely optional

[StallMandibuzz]

Originally Posted by Fat Saboros

The only person to get the orbs was supposed to be the protagonist of the DPP series. So maybe, just maybe, he grew out his hair, changed his name to Ghetsis, stole Vegeta's scouter and created team plasma. Somewhat of a long-shot though....

Hahahaha, that made my day reading that comment. I can imagine the female protagonist somehow turning into Ghetsis. 0.o And the Orbs aren't exactly hard to get, the only one that is difficult is the Griesous Orb, and as I said, Ghetsis has mysterious ways to get the things he needs for his plans. I also don't think that N is actually related to Ghetsis. I can't remember which Sage said it, but he has suspicions about it.

[one rush]

Originally Posted by Fat Saboros

Well he and N aren't actually related. I don't remember exactly, but N was sorta adopted by Ghetsis or something.

works for me :D

[PkmnTrainerNathan]

If you play as the Female protagonist, would you fight "Hilda" instead?

[alexwolf]

By the way, do we know about the abilities or the stats of the alternate formes of the Genie trio?

[PkmnTrainerNathan]

Abilities are currently unknown.
Tornadus has a larger Emphasis on Def. Sp.Def, and Speed.

Thunderus has a larger emphasis on Sp.Atk.

Landrous has a larger emphasis on attack.

That's all the info I can dig up, Hope this helps.

[Tytus]

Originally Posted by Fat PkmnTrainerNathan

If you play as the Female protagonist, would you fight "Hilda" instead?

Well, Red didn't become Leaf if you picked the girl in HGSS. But of course that means nothing.