Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (DS, June in JP, Fall in EU/NA/AU) - Updated May 12th

[JumpTigerX]

Originally Posted by Fat Lucario_Guy

On another note: I'm totally diggin' Keldeo's new multicolored headgear. I wonder if it'll gain "boots" like the other Musketeers have? :D

talk about the multicolor feather,
its like gaining from the other three members

ignoring the same fighting type,

Green -> Grass -> Virizion
Yellow -> Ground -> Terrakion
Silver -> Steel -> Cobalion

[Mario With Lasers]

Originally Posted by Fat JumpTigerX

talk about the multicolor feather,
its like gaining from the other three members

ignoring the same fighting type,

Green -> Grass -> Virizion
Yellow -> Ground -> Terrakion
Silver -> Steel -> Cobalion

Oh hey, there's a silver feather. I thought it was another yellow one.


Now I find that kind of cute.

Originally Posted by Fat Aleva

Maybe in this form Keldeo will have beastly Atk, SpA, Def and SpD and then lose some HP and speed, since it's drawing away from the other three?

Impossible. Interchangeable formes always share the same HP. Now, increasing Atk/Def/SDef while decreasing SAtk/Speed would work...

[Aleva]

Maybe in this form Keldeo will have beastly Atk, SpA, Def and SpD and then lose some HP and speed, since it's drawing away from the other three?

[Age of Kings]

What the fuck. They're going way overboard with forms. I thought three trios of legendaries was overkill for one generation (although tbh most of them are quite useful so no real complaint there), but this form shit? I mean there's people complaining about rehashing designs, but rehashing the same Pokemon over and over again makes me a little ill. I only hope that they do not repeat the mistake of Platinum and block you from using the new forms over Wi-Fi.

Competitively, if stats are being redistributed, I'm only truly excited for the possibility of a defensive Tornadus and whatever they decide to do to Kyurem. Thundurus, Landorus, and Keldeo are all in a pretty good place imo. We'll have to see what these new forms have to offer, as well as any potential tutors.

[Kaphotics]

Originally Posted by Fat Age of Kings

What the fuck. They're going way overboard with forms. I thought three trios of legendaries was overkill for one generation (although tbh most of them are quite useful so no real complaint there), but this form shit? I mean there's people complaining about rehashing designs, but rehashing the same Pokemon over and over again makes me a little ill. I only hope that they do not repeat the mistake of Platinum and block you from using the new forms over Wi-Fi.

Competitively, if stats are being redistributed, I'm only truly excited for the possibility of a defensive Tornadus and whatever they decide to do to Kyurem. Thundurus, Landorus, and Keldeo are all in a pretty good place imo. We'll have to see what these new forms have to offer, as well as any potential tutors.

might I remind you... Platinum did the same with a dickton of new forms. (7 new total in one game).

BW2 will have: Trio,Kyurem,Keldeo, same total of 7 new forms. They're more spread out this time :D

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat Kaphotics

might I remind you... Platinum did the same with a dickton of new forms. (7 new total in one game).

BW2 will have: Trio,Kyurem,Keldeo, same total of 7 new forms. They're more spread out this time :D

And more varied than Rotom's 5 forms.

[Mario With Lasers]

How can Game Freak be rehashing pokémon if they're using new concepts for the formes and/or had them meant that way from the beginning...?

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

How can Game Freak be rehashing pokémon if they're using new concepts for the formes and/or had them meant that way from the beginning...?

And especially the "same Pokemon over and over again." Deoxys is the only Pokemon with forms that got additional forms later on and that was within the same generation.
Every other Pokemon with forms has only been used for that purpose once.

[blasphemy1]

We haven't received new Pokemon in the second versions of a generation so I'm not sure why it's even relevant. I'll take new forms and "rehashing" in lieu of 0 new forms and 0 new Pokemon.

Plus, if the forms are story-related (which they might be), then it only adds an extra dimension to the games. Keldeo's resolution form probably has to do with this:

Originally Posted by Fat Bulbapedia Musketeer Page

The group has challenged humans in legends in order to protect other Pokémon from losing their homes to human expansion.

Keldeo might act as the arbitrator and I think it would be pretty cool for the story to at least touch upon the musketeers' story.

I'm not sure how the kami trio's new forms might be incorporated into the story, but I don't see how Keldeo's new form is as useless as some people would like to think. It clearly has some significance in either the anime or the games.

[Tytus]

That's... kind of a weird-looking horn. It looks similar to those plumes the usual form has on the sides of his head. Looking at his old horn, it did look a little "naked." Now he has a large blue one to better match the other three's "elemental" horns.

Hope the rest of him looks a little more mature as well. I'm not digging the My Little Pony look.

[b2j135]

Originally Posted by Fat Katakiri

Question:

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Am I the only one seeing this?

Fixed, and man that new Keldeo forme really makes him look more mature and ready for battle.
In the movie trailers he looks all nervous and scared, maybe this form will fix that and make him more courageous and ready to face and defeat Kyurem!

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat b2j135

Fixed, and man that new Keldeo forme really makes him look more mature and ready for battle.
In the movie trailers he looks all nervous and scared, maybe this form will fix that and make him more courageous and ready to face and defeat Kyurem!

From context clues we can piece together that this happens when Keldeo starts glowing with all that light we've seen in the trailers when he goes up against Kyurem, Shokotan cries out, and now he's "Resolution" keldeo.
So probably!

[Jukain]

Oh god I'm so excited. Resolution Keldeo better work. I'm real excited to see what they do to each Pokemon to balance out their stats.

[Captain Dragan]

Originally Posted by Fat blasphemy1

We haven't received new Pokemon in the second versions of a generation so I'm not sure why it's even relevant. I'll take new forms and "rehashing" in lieu of 0 new forms and 0 new Pokemon.

Plus, if the forms are story-related (which they might be), then it only adds an extra dimension to the games. Keldeo's resolution form probably has to do with this:



Keldeo might act as the arbitrator and I think it would be pretty cool for the story to at least touch upon the musketeers' story.

I'm not sure how the kami trio's new forms might be incorporated into the story, but I don't see how Keldeo's new form is as useless as some people would like to think. It clearly has some significance in either the anime or the games.

I actually like this thought of yours. Very true, it doesn't take a genius to think of 'oh maybe all these new forms will have a role in the storyline', but I myself didn't think of it at all, and that's why i was so uncaring about new formes, since i dont really care about formes at all, especially for pokes who are already strong. What I do care about though, is storyline, so if they indeed spice up the BW2 storyline (all the new formes announced) then i'd fully accept their introduction happily. If, though, they're only there 'to introduce new forms because what the heck why not', then I really don't give a crap..

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat pokemon0078

Oh god I'm so excited. Resolution Keldeo better work. I'm real excited to see what they do to each Pokemon to balance out their stats.

Apparently they'll be showing how Kyurem changes form in this issue. Perhaps we'll finally see a stat screen!

[Rayquaza_]

Keldeo still looks like My Little Pony.

[rocky505]

Originally Posted by Fat Kaphotics

might I remind you... Platinum did the same with a dickton of new forms. (7 new total in one game).

BW2 will have: Trio,Kyurem,Keldeo, same total of 7 new forms. They're more spread out this time :D

Bw2 only has 6 new formes not 7. Just wanted to point that out.

[Limi]

Originally Posted by Fat rocky505

Bw2 only has 6 new formes not 7. Just wanted to point that out.

there's also meloetta.

and i think the new forme thing, while they're probably all revealed now, is overdone already. i mean, the kyurem formes were a given, but the kami formes already are quite random ("okay?"), and when keldeo was revealed, a lot of people probably just felt "really - now THAT too?". when a new forme (or set of formes) is revealed every week, they lose their "specialness", or "magic" as was mentioned earlier. i (and i'm sure, several others have, too) really start wondering what's the point of having the original formes then, especially when they have such boring and rehashed designs such as the original kami.
just my two rather deliberately pessimistic centesimals on this matter.

[rocky505]

Originally Posted by Fat Limi

there's also meloetta.

and i think the new forme thing, while they're probably all revealed now, is overdone already. i mean, the kyurem formes were a given, but the kami formes already are quite random ("okay?"), and when keldeo was revealed, a lot of people probably just felt "really - now THAT too?". when a new forme (or set of formes) is revealed every week, they lose their "specialness", or "magic" as was mentioned earlier. i (and i'm sure, several others have, too) really start wondering what's the point of having the original formes then, especially when they have such boring and rehashed designs such as the original kami.
just my two rather deliberately pessimistic centesimals on this matter.

No meloetta doesn't count. It wasn't introduced in b2w2 like the kamis, kyurem and keldeo. B2w2 is at 6 while platinum had 7 yet people still say we have too many

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat rocky505

No meloetta doesn't count. It wasn't introduced in b2w2 like the kamis, kyurem and keldeo. B2w2 is at 6 while platinum had 7 yet people still say we have too many

6 forms across 5 Pokemon, for the record

I'll never understand people's want assigning of- & keeping things "magical"

[Jirachi6]

As the release date is so close, I doubt we will get any more forms other than the 2 Kyurem, Resolution Keldeo, and the Sacred Beasts of the new Flying trio.

In fact, I was surprised they revealed a new form so recently.

I believe we will get move tutors in these games (and with them, the elemental punch tutors). Imagine what these new forms could get.

[Mario With Lasers]

Serebii said there's a reason for the Kami's new formes, and that we'll find it out in due time. And we know how he usually has inside info on these things, so yeah I guess I'll buy that and not complain about anything.

[Tytus]

Originally Posted by Fat rocky505

No meloetta doesn't count. It wasn't introduced in b2w2 like the kamis, kyurem and keldeo. B2w2 is at 6 while platinum had 7 yet people still say we have too many

Well it wasn't introduced or even in BW either. So when exactly was it introduced?

Originally Posted by Fat Jirachi6

As the release date is so close, I doubt we will get any more forms other than the 2 Kyurem, Resolution Keldeo, and the Sacred Beasts of the new Flying trio.

In fact, I was surprised they revealed a new form so recently.

I believe we will get move tutors in these games (and with them, the elemental punch tutors). Imagine what these new forms could get.

Holy crap your avatar.

[rocky505]

Originally Posted by Fat Tytus

Well it wasn't introduced or even in BW either. So when exactly was it introduced?
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*facepalm* yes it was in bw where have you been the last 2 years.

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat Tytus

Well it wasn't introduced or even in BW either. So when exactly was it introduced?

Holy crap your avatar.

Meloetta was in BW1, though. She's been there since the beginning and neither form is exclusive or new to BW2 except in the same way she & Keldeo are new to BW1.