Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (DS, June in JP, Fall in EU/NA/AU) - Updated May 12th

[ElectivireRocks]

Wow, still no Dark-type gym.

[one rush]

Originally Posted by Fat ElectivireRocks

Wow, still no Dark-type gym.

yet there's three dark type elite four member's. Im just surprise there's no elite four rock,grass,steel,flying,electric type members.

[The Diverman]

Actually if the whole ghost doesn't resist bug thing is true, I can see why they did it; it gives Spiritomb and Sableye a weakness. Still, it doesn't make any sense to do it now since the compatible issues, so it's probably a typo, but I can see the reasoning to do it.

[alexwolf]

I am so much hoping that they make Roost a tutor move. It would be awesome on Sacred Beast Landorus and Torandus. Some other pokes that would love this move are DW Gliscor, Ho-Oh and Lugia, and Volcarona.

[Mario With Lasers]

Originally Posted by Fat Aleva

You never know. According to Bianca, the triplets were the only Gym Leaders that she couldn't contact at the end. Maybe that's because they're actually the Shadow Triad.

'shudders'

He said the triplets not being Gym Leaders anymore would be a hint for them being the Shadow Triad, and I said that it doesn't make sense because we already had the Triad in BW, when the triplets were Gym Leaders. If they are the Triad now, they were the Triad in BW already. So no, it's not a hint or an evidence of anything.

Originally Posted by Fat Ketsuban

In the original games the manual had a type chart that said Ghost was super-effective against Psychic.

Any eight-year-old who charged into the Saffron City gym with a Haunter or Gengar discovered that 1) Ghost attacks did no damage to Psychics, despite what the manual said; however, 2) the only Ghost attack which used the standard damage formula was Lick, rendering point 1 moot; but 3) all the ghosts in Gen I were part-Poison, so they were weak to Psychic-type attacks.

Actually, if I recall correctly, the developer's intention WAS for Ghost to be SE on Psychic, but they fucked up something (lol RBY) and it did no damage instead.

Also, wanna see something really cute?



That's from a FRLG guide, if I recall correctly. They hadn't even held that new move contest yet and, coincidentally, the move chosen (DRACO METEOR) was almost the same as this Meteor Rain move.

[Zowayix]

That might be from the D/P guide, I'm not sure.

Something also from the FR/LG guide: TM10 is only mentioned once in the entire guide, in the TM list. Under "Location", it simply says "unlockable", which makes no sense. (It's actually only obtainable through 5% Pickup, so it's reasonable that it's never mentioned elsewhere in the guide.)

[Lucario_Guy]

Yeah, that's a shot of a D/P guide; the third column denotes whether a move is Physical, Special, or Status.

[StallMandibuzz]

Hm, looks like only a week until BW2 comes out. Damn, I'm gonna need to scroll through 20 pages of info. :P Any news on Akumora being with Team Plasma, or the Gym Leaders? *isn't trying to be an idiot -_-*

[Stellar]

Guys, I realize OI is the off topic forum, but let's try to keep the discussion related to BW2. The presence of Ash's Charizard and Primeape on the anime has absolutely zero relevance.

[The Cicada]

so, it looks like N battles Ghetsis in BW2? o.o

[Aleva]

Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

He said the triplets not being Gym Leaders anymore would be a hint for them being the Shadow Triad, and I said that it doesn't make sense because we already had the Triad in BW, when the triplets were Gym Leaders. If they are the Triad now, they were the Triad in BW already. So no, it's not a hint or an evidence of anything.

You misunderstand; I'm saying it's possible that the Triplets were Gym Leaders AND the Shadow Triad at the same time in B/W. I.e they're ordinary Gym Leaders to begin with, but then Ghetsis recruited them into Plasma, and they're actually leading double lives. Plausible?

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat Aleva

You misunderstand; I'm saying it's possible that the Triplets were Gym Leaders AND the Shadow Triad at the same time in B/W. I.e they're ordinary Gym Leaders to begin with, but then Ghetsis recruited them into Plasma, and they're actually leading double lives. Plausible?

No because the one, single piece of backstory we have for them is that Ghetsis saved their lives and gave them meaning and as such have been serving him since before the game.

[ElectivireRocks]

Originally Posted by Fat Aleva

You misunderstand; I'm saying it's possible that the Triplets were Gym Leaders AND the Shadow Triad at the same time in B/W. I.e they're ordinary Gym Leaders to begin with, but then Ghetsis recruited them into Plasma, and they're actually leading double lives. Plausible?

As much as I'd love that, this is Pokemon we're talking about, which is officially labeled as a "game for kids" even today.
What are the odds they'd turn 3 otherwise very nice characters into people with a hidden life of crime?

Then again Cilan is completely nuts in the anime so it's still a possibility but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

[Treadshot A1]

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

No because the one, single piece of backstory we have for them is that Ghetsis saved their lives and gave them meaning and as such have been serving him since before the game.

Maybe Ghetsis saved teh three as kids, and taught tehm the wonders of cooking?


It's possible that the three are th Triad, though i won't believe it until i see it for real in the game. It's far more likely the Triad are some other three people.

That said, Ghetsis isn't above tampering with kids' lives, so it's possible.

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat ElectivireRocks

As much as I'd love that, this is Pokemon we're talking about, which is officially labeled as a "game for kids" even today.
What are the odds they'd turn 3 otherwise very nice characters into people with a hidden life of crime?

Then again Cilan is completely nuts in the anime so it's still a possibility but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

Considering N's backstory I doubt they care that much.
Also Cress is kind of a jerk while Cilan is timid.


BUT moving away from dumb theories with no real evidence, pokebeach ate so much sushi for this neat promo video: http://youtu.be/JnAfaYjCVUs
Nothing really new, but we do get to see & hear:
-Some pokewood music
-Misty's full animation
-A remix of the HGSS kanto leader theme. I'm guessing that Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh leaders will get similar treatment, as well as the various champs.

[Jirachi6]

Well, the good thing is that in 6 days, it will come out in Japan, and we will see which theories are correct, and those which are not.

Also, the trainer battle music, for some reason, sounds slightly different.

[Sun Sol]

5 days actually, maybe even less due to people possibly getting the game earlier.

[b2j135]

Back to release...what is your in-game team going to consist of?
For me it's going to be something like this:
Samurott, Lucario, Arcainine, Jolteon, Weavile, and Haxorus or Hydreigon

[DarkMaelstrom]

Given that we don't know all the Pokemon in the Unova dex (Remember...there's around 300 Pokemon), I can't say for sure, but based on what we know as of now, here's my team. I'm mostly going with fav Pokes.
Samurott/Magmortar (Or maybe Arcanine)/Jolteon/Weavile/Lucario/Zangoose (Or maybe Tyranitar)
This'll probably change once we confirm the members of the E4 and Champion and the other wild Pokemon.

[Quickster]

Lucario, Weavile and Jolteon all have poor levelup learnsets so you're probably going to have to use TMs on them. There might only be one Shadow Ball TM in the game though, so only one of them can use it. Zangoose is fine; he gets Crush Claw, X-Scissor, Pursuit, Close Combat and Swords Dance. Samurott gets the obligatory Surf STAB too. Magmortar is also good because he gets Lava Plume/Flamethrower, Thunderpunch and Confuse Ray.

As for me, I'm looking at a team including Ampharos/Galvantula, Arcanine and Vaporeon(?).

Ampharos gets good moves in Fire Punch, Discharge, Thunder Wave and Signal Beam, all through levelup. Galvantula has excellent dual STABs, and can run through everything with Discharge and Bug Buzz. Arcanine is just cool. Vaporeon has the free Surf HM, and can learn Ice Beam through TM.

Hydreigon, Haxorus and Metagross are all great but their prevolutions and evolution requirements are off-putting.

[keleyeemoh]

Originally Posted by Fat Quickster

Lucario, Weavile and Jolteon all have poor levelup learnsets so you're probably going to have to use TMs on them. There might only be one Shadow Ball TM in the game though, so only one of them can use it.

TMs are reusable these days.

[Quickster]

Of course, I forgot about that. However, Lucario and Weavile still don't get great TMs. Lucario gets Earthquake and Shadow Ball but not much more. There are many Pokemon that are better than it. Weavile gets Brick Break and that's pretty much it.

Jolteon is pretty good then, as it has access to both Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball.

[Sardiini777]

why are people so sure that there will be move tutors? is it confirmed?

[Lucario_Guy]

Originally Posted by Fat Sardiini777

why are people so sure that there will be move tutors? is it confirmed?

Well there was this one Riolu that used Ice Punch (a 4th Gen Tutor move) showcased in a trailer for Pokéwood, and it'd be kinda strange if they were to show a move unobtainable without transferring 'mons from earlier games...

Other than that, it's been a fairly consistent trend in third/remake games to include an expansive list of new move tutor moves. We'll know which ones are included (if any) by this time next week.

[Dark Arceus]

Originally Posted by Fat Lucario_Guy

Well there was this one Riolu that used Ice Punch (a 4th Gen Tutor move) showcased in a trailer for Pokéwood, and it'd be kinda strange if they were to show a move unobtainable without transferring 'mons from earlier games...

Other than that, it's been a fairly consistent trend in third/remake games to include an expansive list of new move tutor moves. We'll know which ones are included (if any) by this time next week.

Well they have blatantly advertised that you can trransfer "as soon as you have across to c-gear, not saying much considering you don't know when that is. Plus aren't the Pokemon in pokewood rentals? (some news source said this but I may be wrong). But yeah move tutors seem obvious but of course we may get trolled and get no tutors and bad tm's. Edit: sorry for any poor spelling, iPhone autocorrect sucks.