Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (DS, June in JP, Fall in EU/NA/AU) - Updated May 12th - Page 80

The Diverman · Apr 18th, 2012, 3:16:50 PM

I WANT THOSE KEYCHAINS!!! But I think if you import the games, you won't get the preorder bonuses. :(

Executive Proton · Apr 18th, 2012, 4:35:03 PM

The keychains look nice but I miss the figurines they gave you when you preordered Pt/HG/SS =(. I wanted a zekrom figurine but that never happened.

**DittoCrow** · Apr 18th, 2012, 5:13:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Tytus

We've seen the new "team". It's not Aqua or Magma, they have black uniforms and ALL of them have red hair.
Here's the pic:

Actually I checked the police officer near Nimbasa and he looks pretty different. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong guy? Also, Team Plasma's hair looks more like the hair of these dudes.

lmitchell0012 · Apr 18th, 2012, 6:40:30 PM

Sorry if this has already been asked, but do we know if there will be any new dream world abilities introduced with this game?? It would be nice if pokemon with levitate had a second ability. Bronzong gets TWO other abilities to choose from, so why can't other levitate users also have a few more options??

ace combat · Apr 18th, 2012, 6:48:21 PM

Can anyone who can read Japanese confirm from the Kyurem fighting video if it still has pressure as it's ability?

mew420 · Apr 18th, 2012, 7:07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat DittoCrow

Actually I checked the police officer near Nimbasa and he looks pretty different. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong guy? Also, Team Plasma's hair looks more like the hair of these dudes.

where can i find this "nimbasa" pic everyone is talking about?

satchmo · Apr 18th, 2012, 7:12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat DittoCrow

Actually I checked the police officer near Nimbasa and he looks pretty different. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong guy? Also, Team Plasma's hair looks more like the hair of these dudes.

The officers near Nimbasa looks older (and fatter), they are definately different from him.

Can anyone identify the text in the picture?

The Diverman · Apr 18th, 2012, 7:43:13 PM

I don't know, they look pretty similar to me.

satchmo · Apr 18th, 2012, 9:33:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Diverman

I don't know, they look pretty similar to me.

They're still thinner, as far as I can tell. Though, that could just be newer sprites.

The Diverman · Apr 18th, 2012, 10:04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat satchmo

They're still thinner, as far as I can tell. Though, that could just be newer sprites.

Well they could look to be thinner due it being a screen capture of a video. Though I will also admit they also look similar to the Rocket sprites from HG/SS.
http://www.spriters-resource.com/ds/...er/sheet/26955 (column: 4-5 row: 6)
(I would just post a pic like I did with the first, but that's one image altogether, so I would have to crop it and upload again. Yeah I'm lazy.)

GDK · Apr 19th, 2012, 2:36:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat satchmo

They're still thinner, as far as I can tell. Though, that could just be newer sprites.

It's a well known fact that every cop in the world is bound to be fat.

SuperJOCKE · Apr 19th, 2012, 5:26:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat lmitchell0012

Sorry if this has already been asked, but do we know if there will be any new dream world abilities introduced with this game?? It would be nice if pokemon with levitate had a second ability. Bronzong gets TWO other abilities to choose from, so why can't other levitate users also have a few more options??

I can safely say that Levitate Pokémon will never get a DW ability, besides Bronzor / Bronzong, because they had Heat Proof and Levitate in D/P. They are the only Levitate Pokémon with a second ability, so you can't compare them.

Cinccino · Apr 19th, 2012, 5:37:11 AM

They wear some kind of beret or even flat cap, it's definitely not a police hat. Notice the lack of the bill eyeshade.

Katakiri · Apr 19th, 2012, 6:14:25 AM

Pretty much every post-game Team Plasma member pretty much seems remorseful or blindly following one of the sages (and taken away by Looker). Ghetsis dismissed the Shadow Triad. All the Team Plasma mooks only followed Ghetsis because they believed Pokemon should be free, and after Ghetsis revealed his plan to rule the world in the end, I REALLY doubt there will be any sort of Team Plasma revival. Especially since Ghetsis is a wanted criminal now.

Neo Team Rocket wanted Giovanni back because they still thought of him as their leader. Giovanni never lied to the face of his team nor completely betrayed them like Ghetsis did. Giovanni simply walked away.

There was an Ex-Team Rocket Grunt living in Icirrus City during the winter. (The American Grunt that spoke terrible Japanese or w/e language of the translated version you have in G/S/C/HG/SS that stole Machine Parts from the Power Plant) Team Rocket probably did at one time have an Unova branch so I wouldn't be surprised if Team Rocket was being revived in Unova. It's extremely unlikely, but it's far more likely than Team Plasma ever existing again.

Albert Wesker & Umbrella are more likely to show up than Team Plasma is.

But going back to this picture:

They're standing a few steps up from here:

They're blocking the way to The Little Dome & The Big Dome and/or Route 5. But even though you should have came from Route 5 because we started in the West, notice how the Rival event seems to happen on the opposite side of where you should have came into the city.

That heavily implies that you'll be coming up through Route 4, which tells me that the Under Water Tunnel in the trailer may very well be a way from South-West Unova to Castelia City, which would make since as that would make Burgh & Elesa the 3rd & 4th Gym Leaders just like in BW1. (assuming Homika & Shizui are the 1st & 2nd)

But for some reason they're blocking off the Sports Domes instead of the way to Route 5. Which implies something of importance is there.
And it's not this:

Because that building is right in front of a rock wall in a place that doesn't fit anywhere in current Unova, and certainly not Nimbasa City.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the place where you & Akuroma are walking on-to a stage is what they're blocking off, replacing one of the Sports Domes. (The place in the picture above is a movie studio, not where you see Akuroma. There's a quick shot of the movie set inside in the BW2 Trailer where you see the overworld sprite for "Mecha-Tyranitar.") Which would make a lot more sense than blocking off the Sports Domes of all things. But even that would beg the question "why are they blocking it in the first place?". Blocking a building's one thing, but they're blocking (assuming there's 4 more on the other side) nearly HALF THE CITY! Not even the Team Rocket takeover of Saffron City blocked that much of an area off.

But that's all speculation~

SuperJOCKE · Apr 19th, 2012, 9:26:50 AM

The "blocking" is probably just because so the player won't continue the game until he/she has completed a certain task, OR that they are simply talking. Cheren had a conversation with N in B/W so it's likely it's just that.

rocky505 · Apr 19th, 2012, 9:38:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Executive Proton

The keychains look nice but I miss the figurines they gave you when you preordered Pt/HG/SS =(. I wanted a zekrom figurine but that never happened.

Yes it did happen. But it came in a TCG box made for Zekrom. Reshiram and Kyurem got some too. As did the starters and each of their final forms.

Joeyboy · Apr 19th, 2012, 1:24:09 PM

That's a great post Katakiri, I've been trying to locate where that underwater tunnel is gunna go and yours seems the most likely at this time.

To me those guys in black SCREAM baddies (ps anyone know the translation for that picture). Them and your rival are at such a stand-off, looks too much like the start of a battle.

Prominence · Apr 19th, 2012, 2:15:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Joeyboy

That's a great post Katakiri, I've been trying to locate where that underwater tunnel is gunna go and yours seems the most likely at this time.

To me those guys in black SCREAM baddies (ps anyone know the translation for that picture). Them and your rival are at such a stand-off, looks too much like the start of a battle.

It says something about the rival being angry or something like that. And @Katakiri, I think they are blocking the way to the Pokémon Center.

Katakiri · Apr 19th, 2012, 5:35:59 PM

There's no bridge like that in the entrance to the city. They'd need 7 men in one line to block the way to the Pokemon Center. They're on the street just outside the Pokemon Musical Building. The only difference is that the hedges in front of the musical are now side-rails.

Tytus · Apr 19th, 2012, 7:07:01 PM

It's totally possible they're some kind of generic security patrol there to block the player's path, but the fact that they each have different, unique sprites is kind of odd.

Bloodclown · Apr 19th, 2012, 9:11:00 PM

lools like your rival in the game is coming to help you. (nothing new)

~~bubbly~~ · Apr 19th, 2012, 9:19:54 PM

Agreed, I miss the old kind of rival who wants to see you fail.

**R_N** · Apr 19th, 2012, 9:31:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat bubbly

Agreed, I miss the old kind of rival who wants to see you fail.

So that the fandom can moan forever at how he's just another Blue or Silver &/or how they are so much better at being a dick than new guy?

I'll take complaints over being sorta nice but with a 'tude

Katakiri · Apr 20th, 2012, 1:25:07 AM

Well I'm hoping they make him into the kind of rival they haven't made yet. One that's a total dick, but he'll team up with you if it's convenient for him. One that actually uses the player when he has something to gain from it.

The closest we've gotten to that was...well...Bianca...in the Dreamyard when she runs in out of nowhere after you use Cut.

Basically the Rival that Silver should have been. "You're trying to take down Team Rocket? Well screw you! I'M taking down Team Rocket AND you!" What the hell, Silver? In fact Green did the exact same thing in Silph Co.

I guess what I'm saying is that I want a gary-level jerk rival with a brain but not a doormat like Brendan & May. Is that too much to ask?

Edit: 1999 Posts? That's like 30 Posts a day.

The QWAZ · Apr 20th, 2012, 3:17:14 AM

I liked may and brendan, they were nice. IMO cheren was the worst because he was an up himself twat... Oh god what if the rivals parents were cheren and bianca i always thoght they were up to somthing dissapering for a gym or two then randomly appering out of nowhere together.
EDIT: 2000th post

Apr 18th, 2012, 3:16:50 PM	#1976
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lmitchell0012 Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,121	Sorry if this has already been asked, but do we know if there will be any new dream world abilities introduced with this game?? It would be nice if pokemon with levitate had a second ability. Bronzong gets TWO other abilities to choose from, so why can't other levitate users also have a few more options?? __________________ Platinum FC 2665 0699 0580. Game name is Dawn. White FC 3783 1664 8708 I use RELEASED DREAM WORLD ABILITIES ONLY. I may use legal hacks. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3451853

Apr 18th, 2012, 7:43:13 PM	#1983
The Diverman Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 866 Chillville	I don't know, they look pretty similar to me. __________________ My Reality is a Lie.

Apr 19th, 2012, 5:37:11 AM	#1988
Cinccino Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 246 Here	They wear some kind of beret or even flat cap, it's definitely not a police hat. Notice the lack of the bill eyeshade. __________________ is now RU.

Apr 19th, 2012, 6:14:25 AM	#1989
Katakiri Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 756 Smogon Mobile. Ugh.	Pretty much every post-game Team Plasma member pretty much seems remorseful or blindly following one of the sages (and taken away by Looker). Ghetsis dismissed the Shadow Triad. All the Team Plasma mooks only followed Ghetsis because they believed Pokemon should be free, and after Ghetsis revealed his plan to rule the world in the end, I REALLY doubt there will be any sort of Team Plasma revival. Especially since Ghetsis is a wanted criminal now. Neo Team Rocket wanted Giovanni back because they still thought of him as their leader. Giovanni never lied to the face of his team nor completely betrayed them like Ghetsis did. Giovanni simply walked away. There was an Ex-Team Rocket Grunt living in Icirrus City during the winter. (The American Grunt that spoke terrible Japanese or w/e language of the translated version you have in G/S/C/HG/SS that stole Machine Parts from the Power Plant) Team Rocket probably did at one time have an Unova branch so I wouldn't be surprised if Team Rocket was being revived in Unova. It's extremely unlikely, but it's far more likely than Team Plasma ever existing again. Albert Wesker & Umbrella are more likely to show up than Team Plasma is. But going back to this picture: They're standing a few steps up from here: They're blocking the way to The Little Dome & The Big Dome and/or Route 5. But even though you should have came from Route 5 because we started in the West, notice how the Rival event seems to happen on the opposite side of where you should have came into the city. That heavily implies that you'll be coming up through Route 4, which tells me that the Under Water Tunnel in the trailer may very well be a way from South-West Unova to Castelia City, which would make since as that would make Burgh & Elesa the 3rd & 4th Gym Leaders just like in BW1. (assuming Homika & Shizui are the 1st & 2nd) But for some reason they're blocking off the Sports Domes instead of the way to Route 5. Which implies something of importance is there. And it's not this: Because that building is right in front of a rock wall in a place that doesn't fit anywhere in current Unova, and certainly not Nimbasa City. I have a sneaking suspicion that the place where you & Akuroma are walking on-to a stage is what they're blocking off, replacing one of the Sports Domes. (The place in the picture above is a movie studio, not where you see Akuroma. There's a quick shot of the movie set inside in the BW2 Trailer where you see the overworld sprite for "Mecha-Tyranitar.") Which would make a lot more sense than blocking off the Sports Domes of all things. But even that would beg the question "why are they blocking it in the first place?". Blocking a building's one thing, but they're blocking (assuming there's 4 more on the other side) nearly HALF THE CITY! Not even the Team Rocket takeover of Saffron City blocked that much of an area off. But that's all speculation~ __________________ Take chances, make mistakes, get messy!

Apr 18th, 2012, 4:35:03 PM	#1977
Executive Proton Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 39	The keychains look nice but I miss the figurines they gave you when you preordered Pt/HG/SS =(. I wanted a zekrom figurine but that never happened.

Apr 18th, 2012, 6:48:21 PM	#1980
ace combat Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 89	Can anyone who can read Japanese confirm from the Kyurem fighting video if it still has pressure as it's ability?

Apr 19th, 2012, 9:26:50 AM	#1990
SuperJOCKE Low Tier Warrior! Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,993 Location: Sweden Mentor	The "blocking" is probably just because so the player won't continue the game until he/she has completed a certain task, OR that they are simply talking. Cheren had a conversation with N in B/W so it's likely it's just that. __________________

Apr 19th, 2012, 1:24:09 PM	#1992
Joeyboy Is the hero Smogon deserves Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,219 Fighting Crime Mentor	That's a great post Katakiri, I've been trying to locate where that underwater tunnel is gunna go and yours seems the most likely at this time. To me those guys in black SCREAM baddies (ps anyone know the translation for that picture). Them and your rival are at such a stand-off, looks too much like the start of a battle. __________________ VM for an OU Rate \| Latest OU Mini-Tour \| Smog Work

Apr 19th, 2012, 5:35:59 PM	#1994
Katakiri Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 756 Smogon Mobile. Ugh.	There's no bridge like that in the entrance to the city. They'd need 7 men in one line to block the way to the Pokemon Center. They're on the street just outside the Pokemon Musical Building. The only difference is that the hedges in front of the musical are now side-rails. __________________ Take chances, make mistakes, get messy!

Apr 19th, 2012, 7:07:01 PM	#1995
Tytus Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,419 RNG "abuse" just sounds so negative...	It's totally possible they're some kind of generic security patrol there to block the player's path, but the fact that they each have different, unique sprites is kind of odd. __________________ Nate: 4212 3316 6499 HeartGold: 4383 4383 4712

Apr 19th, 2012, 9:11:00 PM	#1996
Bloodclown Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2 NJ	lools like your rival in the game is coming to help you. (nothing new)

Apr 19th, 2012, 9:19:54 PM	#1997
~~bubbly~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 884 Australia	Agreed, I miss the old kind of rival who wants to see you fail.

Apr 20th, 2012, 1:25:07 AM	#1999
Katakiri Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 756 Smogon Mobile. Ugh.	Well I'm hoping they make him into the kind of rival they haven't made yet. One that's a total dick, but he'll team up with you if it's convenient for him. One that actually uses the player when he has something to gain from it. The closest we've gotten to that was...well...Bianca...in the Dreamyard when she runs in out of nowhere after you use Cut. Basically the Rival that Silver should have been. "You're trying to take down Team Rocket? Well screw you! I'M taking down Team Rocket AND you!" What the hell, Silver? In fact Green did the exact same thing in Silph Co. I guess what I'm saying is that I want a gary-level jerk rival with a brain but not a doormat like Brendan & May. Is that too much to ask? Edit: 1999 Posts? That's like 30 Posts a day. __________________ Take chances, make mistakes, get messy! Last edited by Katakiri; Apr 20th, 2012 at 2:48:52 AM.

Apr 20th, 2012, 3:17:14 AM	#2000
The QWAZ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 527 Oxford, UK	I liked may and brendan, they were nice. IMO cheren was the worst because he was an up himself twat... Oh god what if the rivals parents were cheren and bianca i always thoght they were up to somthing dissapering for a gym or two then randomly appering out of nowhere together. EDIT: 2000th post __________________ VM/PM for an OU or RU rate. <undisputed\afk> who is qwaz