Please help a guy out....HeartGold Battle Frontier

Colossus · Mar 1st, 2012, 6:43:08 PM

Hey people!
I'm kinda new to this, but I would like to try and do relatively well at the Battle Frontier. I've made a team, but I would like to know if it's viable for the Battle Tower and/or Arcade. As well, I'm not sure how to EV train (if that's what it's called) these guys well.

Garchomp
Adamant/Jolly @ Scope Lens
Outrage
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Swords Dance/Sandstorm <-(works with his ability?)

This would be my lead-hammer whatever it can, switch if necessary.

Suicune
Bold/Calm @ Leftovers
Surf
Ice Beam
Calm Mind
Rest/Substitute

To quote the friend of mine who gave me the gist of this team, "Suicune should be used as a tank, maybe a status absorber with a sleep talk set."

Metagross
Adamant @ Choice Band
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Explosion

Metagross serves pretty much the same function as Garchomp- beat up what it an, explode when finished.

Any help/ideas will be appreciated greatly!

Jukain · Mar 1st, 2012, 7:55:08 PM

Give Garchomp Dragon Fang or Yache Berry, but otherwise good. I would go with using SD on Garchomp, and an Adamant nature. If you can EV, go 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe on Garchomp, 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe filler on Suicune, and 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe on Metagross. Otherwise, it looks pretty good, I commend you for actually making a team.

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Colossus · Mar 1st, 2012, 8:53:28 PM

@pokemon0078

Thanks! I'll try them out and see how they do.

GARCHOMPZILLA · Mar 1st, 2012, 8:59:13 PM

this looks good, I would actually put sash on garchomp, give it 252 speed/252 attack and give it swords dance, then give metagross a quick claw or just leave as is, and then give milotic substitute (despuite the def. boost, being asleep leaves you wide open without a lum/chesto berry). Aside from that it's great, I actually used latios , metagross, and garchomp to beat dahlia, darach and plamer in the 2nd round each without losing anyone. One tip is to make sure garchomp as your lead as its sweeps well with sash, usually killing 2-3 of the opponent's pokemon and takes darach down no-damage.

Colossus · Mar 3rd, 2012, 8:30:40 PM

@ GARCHOMPZILLA

Thanks for the suggestions- I have only one more question. Which water type would work the best with my team- Swampert, Milotic, or Suicune? And how should the "EVs" go for best one?

GARCHOMPZILLA · Mar 3rd, 2012, 8:35:26 PM

milotic or suicune: for milotic you want 252 hp/150 defense/100sp.atk maybe, and for suicune you want 252 hp/100 def/100/sp.def/52 sp.atk. also maybe have shadow ball instead of substitute on suicune for starmie(thunderbolt will be a problem) and other water types who resist the other attacks (plus, chance of sp.def lower isn't bad either).

Colossus · Mar 3rd, 2012, 9:13:34 PM

@ GARCHOMPZILLA

Thanks! I'll prob use Suicune, although IVs (from what I know they're predetermined values that affect Pokemon stats- my friend told me) might be an issue.

Level 51 · Apr 7th, 2012, 12:51:07 AM

If you really want explosion on your Metagross, I'd say a Choice Scarf, but the band works fine too I guess. Personally though, I'd just use Agiligross.

Aquaspeeder · Apr 7th, 2012, 1:50:41 PM

^In the latter case (agiligross), swap ice punch for agility

As for your water, if you can get a good Suicune, I'd use that, especially since it can calm mind. Don't bother with sleep talk, that's more for pvp battling. When played correctly, Suicune can easily survive the 2-3 turns of sleep. That said, you may want to swap the leftovers for a chesto berry, as this allows cune to get in a few more calm minds before it becomes immobile for the 2-3 turns, but this is personal preference.

As for its ev's, I'd start with bold 252 hp, 252 def, 4 sp. def, and try it out, and tweak them as you see fit. You don't need sp. atk ev's since youll be boosting with calm mind, and you'll have more than enough special attack to KO alot of things.

hope this helps.

Lockeness · Apr 7th, 2012, 4:51:11 PM

Hi, Colossus and welcome to Smogon! While I personally can't give you much help regarding the battle tower/frontier you might find this thread helpful. Its a collection of battle tower records and has a good deal of advice and tips on how to succeed! Best of luck in your endeavors!

Mar 1st, 2012, 6:43:08 PM	#1
Colossus Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 30	Please help a guy out....HeartGold Battle Frontier Hey people! I'm kinda new to this, but I would like to try and do relatively well at the Battle Frontier. I've made a team, but I would like to know if it's viable for the Battle Tower and/or Arcade. As well, I'm not sure how to EV train (if that's what it's called) these guys well. Garchomp Adamant/Jolly @ Scope Lens Outrage Stone Edge Earthquake Swords Dance/Sandstorm <-(works with his ability?) This would be my lead-hammer whatever it can, switch if necessary. Suicune Bold/Calm @ Leftovers Surf Ice Beam Calm Mind Rest/Substitute To quote the friend of mine who gave me the gist of this team, "Suicune should be used as a tank, maybe a status absorber with a sleep talk set." Metagross Adamant @ Choice Band Meteor Mash Earthquake Ice Punch Explosion Metagross serves pretty much the same function as Garchomp- beat up what it an, explode when finished. Any help/ideas will be appreciated greatly! Last edited by Colossus; Mar 1st, 2012 at 9:02:52 PM. Reason: Needed description of roles played by each Pokemon.

Mar 1st, 2012, 7:55:08 PM	#2
Jukain rip numeros Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,686 somewhere could be anywhere Mentor	Give Garchomp Dragon Fang or Yache Berry, but otherwise good. I would go with using SD on Garchomp, and an Adamant nature. If you can EV, go 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe on Garchomp, 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe filler on Suicune, and 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe on Metagross. Otherwise, it looks pretty good, I commend you for actually making a team. Click Here to Learn to EV Train. __________________ C&C Work \| 1k RMT \| Contribute! \| VM for an OU Rate! \| gp member: vm/pm for a check \| previously pokemon0078 / aka jew-cane

Mar 1st, 2012, 8:59:13 PM	#4
GARCHOMPZILLA Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 307 New York	this looks good, I would actually put sash on garchomp, give it 252 speed/252 attack and give it swords dance, then give metagross a quick claw or just leave as is, and then give milotic substitute (despuite the def. boost, being asleep leaves you wide open without a lum/chesto berry). Aside from that it's great, I actually used latios , metagross, and garchomp to beat dahlia, darach and plamer in the 2nd round each without losing anyone. One tip is to make sure garchomp as your lead as its sweeps well with sash, usually killing 2-3 of the opponent's pokemon and takes darach down no-damage. __________________ Rushing into battle without a strategy is being brave. Rushing into battle without thinking is being an idiot.

Mar 3rd, 2012, 8:35:26 PM	#6
GARCHOMPZILLA Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 307 New York	milotic or suicune: for milotic you want 252 hp/150 defense/100sp.atk maybe, and for suicune you want 252 hp/100 def/100/sp.def/52 sp.atk. also maybe have shadow ball instead of substitute on suicune for starmie(thunderbolt will be a problem) and other water types who resist the other attacks (plus, chance of sp.def lower isn't bad either). __________________ Rushing into battle without a strategy is being brave. Rushing into battle without thinking is being an idiot.

Mar 1st, 2012, 8:53:28 PM	#3
Colossus Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 30	@pokemon0078 Thanks! I'll try them out and see how they do.

Mar 3rd, 2012, 8:30:40 PM	#5
Colossus Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 30	@ GARCHOMPZILLA Thanks for the suggestions- I have only one more question. Which water type would work the best with my team- Swampert, Milotic, or Suicune? And how should the "EVs" go for best one?

Mar 3rd, 2012, 9:13:34 PM	#7
Colossus Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 30	@ GARCHOMPZILLA Thanks! I'll prob use Suicune, although IVs (from what I know they're predetermined values that affect Pokemon stats- my friend told me) might be an issue.

Apr 7th, 2012, 12:51:07 AM	#8
Level 51 barely clinging on Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 755 Location: Singapore ^.^	If you really want explosion on your Metagross, I'd say a Choice Scarf, but the band works fine too I guess. Personally though, I'd just use Agiligross.

Apr 7th, 2012, 1:50:41 PM	#9
Aquaspeeder Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 12	^In the latter case (agiligross), swap ice punch for agility As for your water, if you can get a good Suicune, I'd use that, especially since it can calm mind. Don't bother with sleep talk, that's more for pvp battling. When played correctly, Suicune can easily survive the 2-3 turns of sleep. That said, you may want to swap the leftovers for a chesto berry, as this allows cune to get in a few more calm minds before it becomes immobile for the 2-3 turns, but this is personal preference. As for its ev's, I'd start with bold 252 hp, 252 def, 4 sp. def, and try it out, and tweak them as you see fit. You don't need sp. atk ev's since youll be boosting with calm mind, and you'll have more than enough special attack to KO alot of things. hope this helps.

Apr 7th, 2012, 4:51:11 PM	#10
Lockeness (e^(i╥))+1=0 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 307	Hi, Colossus and welcome to Smogon! While I personally can't give you much help regarding the battle tower/frontier you might find this thread helpful. Its a collection of battle tower records and has a good deal of advice and tips on how to succeed! Best of luck in your endeavors!