The Dark Horse Project III - Page 5

**Pocket** · Mar 12th, 2012, 1:15:36 AM

rotfl, wow, those are some TRIPPY Mew sets you got there, Mafe (even though it's for UU :P)

Dcae · Mar 12th, 2012, 1:39:44 AM

I decided to take on the tough challenge of using Delibird in OU. To my surprise, Delibird does pull his own weight by using powerful priority moves and destroys opponents who are generally dumbfounded at the sight of Delibird. I use it generally as a late game cleaner, finishing off pokes weakened by Sand and my other pokes. My other Dark Horse poke is Mew. I chose the NP set using Psychic + Aura Sphere + Shadow Ball, which really catches opponents offguards and hits very hard. My main early game sweeper, it immediately sets up a couple of Nasty Plots and begins attacking with perfect coverage.

Here is an importable:

Importable

I must say, however, that the star of the team is AcroBat Gliscor. What an amazing poke. It gets behind a Sub against a slower poke, sets up SD, and proceeds to sweep. My main poke killer, it is immensely useful in defeating/weakening my opponents. After roughly 15 minutes of laddering, I have attained ~1120, but have yet to break the top 80.

Boorego · Mar 12th, 2012, 3:41:59 AM

Nice to see all the talk of mew usage in this thread, paticuliarily the np mew usage, it's such an underutilized set.
Well lets try to get better than bronze rank this time around.

Pokemon Online Username:Boooorego
Hall of Fame Standing:none for this account atm.
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With:Mew!!!
Current Ladder Standing:1000

Pwnemon · Mar 12th, 2012, 7:04:05 AM

Mafe, If you want original sets, how about my Defensive Roserade (you read that right)

Roserade @ Black Sludge
Bold
Natural Cure
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
-Toxic Spikes
-Sleep Powder
-Rest
-Giga Drain

Before you try and ask what possessed me to run a bulky mon with fully invested 60/55 defenses: I don't know. But now that I've pioneered this set, it's one my team couldn't live without. What makes Roserade amazing is its carefully crafted move pool in combination with its ability and stellar defensive typing. Grass/poison resists Electric and Water and Grass, while being neutral to Rock, Bug, Ground, and Steel. That means that it's a full stop to rotom-W, but the real beauty is that it's impossible to OHKO by a combination of Volt Switch + ScarfLando/BandZor. So in theory Rosey hard counters VolTurn, and in practice he does absorb the nasty tspikes

In reality of course that's not true. That's why it has Natural Cure + Rest. I can't tell you how many people have gone for a 3 or 4hko while I spike up only to Rest in their face. It makes me tear up every time. It's that beautiful

If only Roserade had a bit more defense...

**Harsha** · Mar 12th, 2012, 9:31:24 AM

I've actually stuck with a less gimmicky set: I'm using a more offensive version of Zarator's Feraligatr and a standard Tornadus. The team has been doing much better on the ladder with Pocket's suggestions, as I dropped from 1221 to 1157 and then when right back up after implementing them to 1236. :)

The biggest problem I have had is a lack of a spinner, but I have found that if I lead with Terrakion, I can often put the opponent on the back foot and then take the momentum without the use of a VoltTurn core. So... Top 400! Woohoo! Once I break 1300 we get serious. B)

My biggest problem right now is my playstyle; I get Stealth Rock down too late meaning that my opponent gets all the switches he or she wants, but that's my fault. Oddly enough, Jirachi has pulled its weight. However, Conkeldurr is arguably my biggest problem. Politoed OHKOes Conkeldurr after SR damage, but as I said, I need SR down. The reason behind this is that I usually paralyze threats with Ferrothorn instead of using SR. Is that bad, or am I doing the right thing?

Lady Alex · Mar 12th, 2012, 9:32:58 AM

Sorry to you guys who picked mew, but I made it xD. I used to be pretty leery of nasty plot mew, thinking that it didn't really have enough power to do what it needed, but I am no longer of that opinion. It's so great late game after faster pokemon have been done away with. It's also really nice when people expect the stallbreaker set, only to eat a nasty plotted psychic.

@pwnemon- I've tried physically defensive roserade too, and It's a pretty neat pokemon. One of the things I really liked about it was its ability to stay in on landorus without getting 1hkod by EQ in the sand. Too bad the team I used it on sucked DX

Pwnemon · Mar 12th, 2012, 10:38:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat harsha2014

I've actually stuck with a less gimmicky set: I'm using a more offensive version of Zarator's Feraligatr and a standard Tornadus. The team has been doing much better on the ladder with Pocket's suggestions, as I dropped from 1221 to 1157 and then when right back up after implementing them to 1236. :)

The biggest problem I have had is a lack of a spinner, but I have found that if I lead with Terrakion, I can often put the opponent on the back foot and then take the momentum without the use of a VoltTurn core. So... Top 400! Woohoo! Once I break 1300 we get serious. B)

My biggest problem right now is my playstyle; I get Stealth Rock down too late meaning that my opponent gets all the switches he or she wants, but that's my fault. Oddly enough, Jirachi has pulled its weight. However, Conkeldurr is arguably my biggest problem. Politoed OHKOes Conkeldurr after SR damage, but as I said, I need SR down. The reason behind this is that I usually paralyze threats with Ferrothorn instead of using SR. Is that bad, or am I doing the right thing?

You're not. I've trained myself and you should too; at the earliest possible opportunity get a free turn with Ferro you MUST rock up. On a first KO, Ferro. On any free switch, Ferro. Rocks, always. Besides, Ferro is so bulky he can usually set up Rocks and then t-wave. If you're running ScarfRachi I don't see how you're worried about paralyzing things anyway

**Harsha** · Mar 12th, 2012, 10:40:28 AM

Yeah, I've been doing so now, and it's working a bit. I've had to convert my team though. Now I'm running Scarf Politoed and I've made Jirachi a Wish variant to help me out, with a bit of Attack investment on the side.

Byrn Dragonstone · Mar 12th, 2012, 1:06:58 PM

Since I just started yesterday my team hasn't quite made it. I also went on a bit of a tilt at the beggining (a -73,+17 match ugh) so I have just broken back through a 1000. SO far the team works well, with my two main sweepers, Metagross and Lucario, absolutely decimating if they get a sweeping chance. I was using Torterra for rocks and as a Physical pivot, and he was working really well, till I hit the rain Zone (Between approximately 1000-1100 almost everyone uses rain for some reason). At that point his secondary typing really let him down so I ended up switching him to Celebi. Snorlax was also working well, but I was really getting trashed by the weathers other then sand so I ended up switching to a BandTar for pursuiting and weather control. Latios and Landorus round off the team providing Special muscle and speed respectively. Latios seems to be dead weight sometimes then the very next match absoolutely wrecks them with Specs Draco Meteors.

Anyways here is the team. Any suggestions are welcome.

...

Lady Alex · Mar 12th, 2012, 1:13:37 PM

Is that variation even possible? DX

Byrn Dragonstone · Mar 12th, 2012, 2:30:01 PM

Yeah that was what I thought. The next couple battles were rather big variations too (+45,-9 and +57,-15) so I don't know if it was just the time or whatnot but it was strange.

Pwnemon · Mar 12th, 2012, 2:39:04 PM

The first ten battles you have with an alt have abnormally large variations.

**Harsha** · Mar 12th, 2012, 5:38:38 PM

If you want to prevent such large variations, you can always check the ±200 clause when you click the Find Battle button.

Lady Alex · Mar 12th, 2012, 5:39:51 PM

I usually just check it around 1250 to prevent silly variations like +2 -30.

SlimMan · Mar 12th, 2012, 5:46:38 PM

Yo Mafe, you probably don't but remember how I forgot the password for my registered alt and then said I'd take a week off before registering a new alt?

Well I forgot to register my new one. Do I have to start all over again, or can I just register this current one? I promise I've only used it with this particular Dark Horse team..........

HiipFire · Mar 12th, 2012, 5:58:15 PM

Pokemon Online Username:imdabes
Hall of Fame Standing: -
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With:Darmanitan
Current Ladder Standing:1000

Himanattsu · Mar 12th, 2012, 6:27:18 PM

What is this? The OP didn't really explain it too well.

Lady Alex · Mar 12th, 2012, 6:45:05 PM

It's a project that aims to show that pokemon who aren't used as frequently are viable in today's OU metagame. Any pokemon whose usage is less than 5% in the previous month's statistics is eligible to be considered a dark horse. In order to make the hall of fame, you have to reach rank 80 or better on the OU ladder on smogon with a rating of at least 1350. It's really fun :)

SuperChillarmy · Mar 12th, 2012, 8:01:01 PM

I'm having some fun with Alakazam. Peaked at around the 1300s before getting plagued with some bad hax. I've found that Zam has some good offensive synergy with SD Luke.

Mafeking · Mar 12th, 2012, 8:09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat SlimMan

Yo Mafe, you probably don't but remember how I forgot the password for my registered alt and then said I'd take a week off before registering a new alt?

Well I forgot to register my new one. Do I have to start all over again, or can I just register this current one? I promise I've only used it with this particular Dark Horse team..........

Eh, just update your original post here. It's all good.

Lady Alex sucks now I'm gonna cry and run something silly like Purugly just to whine about Mew. </3

I'll update this later tonight (in like 2 hours), sorry if this inconveniences anyone for whatever reason? ^_^

EDIT: The hotel I'm at right now apparently refuses to let me edit a post the size of the Registered Participants list, so today's update will have to be postponed until tomorrow. My apologies :3

Lady Alex · Mar 12th, 2012, 8:16:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Mafeking

Lady Alex sucks now I'm gonna cry and run something silly like Purugly just to whine about Mew. </3

;D Had to hurry. Too many people trying to take my precious Mew.

badabing · Mar 12th, 2012, 9:56:45 PM

Pokemon Online Username: get green
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: rotom-n
Current Ladder Standing: dgf

**Pocket** · Mar 13th, 2012, 4:57:10 AM

Updated the Hall of Fame with Lady Alex's double-psychic wonder! Way to beat ~3 other challengers in an impressive ladder sprint! You're the only challenger to not only succeed every installment of Dark Horse, but to have multiple successful runs within a single month!

Congrats for your major success with that team Lady Alex! Honestly, I think the MVP here is by far Deoxys-D. With this viral alien around, HO still kicks butt, and your quick success only reinforces this under-appreciated Pokemon. I am glad that you can also appreciate the utility of Magic Coat on Deoxys-D - it's probably one of the few mons who can pull off that move effectively. I urge you to stick with this team and see if you can go higher on the ladder!

I think the one weakness to teams such as yours is Volcarona, who can possibly sweep this team if it leads against Deoxys-D. Dragonite is thus useful for checking this large threat. Scarf Landorus may provide you a more reliable check, as well as an additional Volt-Turn abuser / check to Sand. Scarf Infernape, Scarf Mienshao, and Scarf MoxieMence are all viable options that you may possibly want to consider over Dragonite's spot.

Again, Congrats Lady Alex for your impressive feat!

Lady Alex · Mar 13th, 2012, 2:33:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Pocket

Updated the Hall of Fame with Lady Alex's double-psychic wonder! Way to beat ~3 other challengers in an impressive ladder sprint! You're the only challenger to not only succeed every installment of Dark Horse, but to have multiple successful runs within a single month!

Congrats for your major success with that team Lady Alex! Honestly, I think the MVP here is by far Deoxys-D. With this viral alien around, HO still kicks butt, and your quick success only reinforces this under-appreciated Pokemon. I am glad that you can also appreciate the utility of Magic Coat on Deoxys-D - it's probably one of the few mons who can pull off that move effectively. I urge you to stick with this team and see if you can go higher on the ladder!

I think the one weakness to teams such as yours is Volcarona, who can possibly sweep this team if it leads against Deoxys-D. Dragonite is thus useful for checking this large threat. Scarf Landorus may provide you a more reliable check, as well as an additional Volt-Turn abuser / check to Sand. Scarf Infernape, Scarf Mienshao, and Scarf MoxieMence are all viable options that you may possibly want to consider over Dragonite's spot.

Again, Congrats Lady Alex for your impressive feat!

Thanks so much ^_^. You're completely right about volcarona. It's crucial that dragonite stays at max health otherwise it's a guaranteed 6-0 if it ever gets a free switch in. If they're carrying hp ice, I have zero options against it. I've been thinking about using either scarf Landorus or scarf moxiemence, so I think I'm going to try those suggestions out. Thanks ;D

alexwolf · Mar 13th, 2012, 5:31:32 PM

Pokemon Online Username: koum kapi 2
Hall of Fame Standing: none
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Dugtrio, Shaymin
Current Ladder Standing: 1000

@
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Ability: Arena Trap
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Reversal
- Aerial Ace

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Nature: Modest
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Ability: Natural Cure
- Seed Flare
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power Ice
- Rest

Mar 12th, 2012, 1:15:36 AM	#101
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,188 Bergenfield	rotfl, wow, those are some TRIPPY Mew sets you got there, Mafe (even though it's for UU :P) __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Mar 12th, 2012, 7:04:05 AM	#104
Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,011 Maryland	Mafe, If you want original sets, how about my Defensive Roserade (you read that right) Roserade @ Black Sludge Bold Natural Cure 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA -Toxic Spikes -Sleep Powder -Rest -Giga Drain Before you try and ask what possessed me to run a bulky mon with fully invested 60/55 defenses: I don't know. But now that I've pioneered this set, it's one my team couldn't live without. What makes Roserade amazing is its carefully crafted move pool in combination with its ability and stellar defensive typing. Grass/poison resists Electric and Water and Grass, while being neutral to Rock, Bug, Ground, and Steel. That means that it's a full stop to rotom-W, but the real beauty is that it's impossible to OHKO by a combination of Volt Switch + ScarfLando/BandZor. So in theory Rosey hard counters VolTurn, and in practice he does absorb the nasty tspikes In reality of course that's not true. That's why it has Natural Cure + Rest. I can't tell you how many people have gone for a 3 or 4hko while I spike up only to Rest in their face. It makes me tear up every time. It's that beautiful If only Roserade had a bit more defense... __________________ [11:56pm] Pwnemon: statutory rape and all [11:56pm] bmelts: i have such a huge boner right now [9:28pm] Kadew: pwnemon that signature is like an x marking the spot of treasure, except instead of treasure its a pile of humorous garbage that turtles crapped out

Mar 12th, 2012, 9:31:24 AM	#105
Harsha Moderator Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 938 Houston, TX Mentor	I've actually stuck with a less gimmicky set: I'm using a more offensive version of Zarator's Feraligatr and a standard Tornadus. The team has been doing much better on the ladder with Pocket's suggestions, as I dropped from 1221 to 1157 and then when right back up after implementing them to 1236. :) The biggest problem I have had is a lack of a spinner, but I have found that if I lead with Terrakion, I can often put the opponent on the back foot and then take the momentum without the use of a VoltTurn core. So... Top 400! Woohoo! Once I break 1300 we get serious. B) My biggest problem right now is my playstyle; I get Stealth Rock down too late meaning that my opponent gets all the switches he or she wants, but that's my fault. Oddly enough, Jirachi has pulled its weight. However, Conkeldurr is arguably my biggest problem. Politoed OHKOes Conkeldurr after SR damage, but as I said, I need SR down. The reason behind this is that I usually paralyze threats with Ferrothorn instead of using SR. Is that bad, or am I doing the right thing? __________________ keep me close keep me close Last edited by Harsha; Mar 12th, 2012 at 9:43:50 AM.

Mar 12th, 2012, 9:32:58 AM	#106
Lady Alex So, I dashed all over the mansion, and I re-killed them; they were pretty alive when I found them Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 420 Stuck between a Stealth Rock and a hard place	Sorry to you guys who picked mew, but I made it xD. I used to be pretty leery of nasty plot mew, thinking that it didn't really have enough power to do what it needed, but I am no longer of that opinion. It's so great late game after faster pokemon have been done away with. It's also really nice when people expect the stallbreaker set, only to eat a nasty plotted psychic. @pwnemon- I've tried physically defensive roserade too, and It's a pretty neat pokemon. One of the things I really liked about it was its ability to stay in on landorus without getting 1hkod by EQ in the sand. Too bad the team I used it on sucked DX __________________ Last edited by Lady Alex; Mar 12th, 2012 at 10:19:51 AM.

Mar 12th, 2012, 10:40:28 AM	#108
Harsha Moderator Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 938 Houston, TX Mentor	Yeah, I've been doing so now, and it's working a bit. I've had to convert my team though. Now I'm running Scarf Politoed and I've made Jirachi a Wish variant to help me out, with a bit of Attack investment on the side. __________________ keep me close keep me close

Mar 12th, 2012, 3:41:59 AM	#103
Boorego Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 31	Nice to see all the talk of mew usage in this thread, paticuliarily the np mew usage, it's such an underutilized set. Well lets try to get better than bronze rank this time around. Pokemon Online Username:Boooorego Hall of Fame Standing:none for this account atm. Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With:Mew!!! Current Ladder Standing:1000

Mar 12th, 2012, 1:06:58 PM	#109
Byrn Dragonstone Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 236	Since I just started yesterday my team hasn't quite made it. I also went on a bit of a tilt at the beggining (a -73,+17 match ugh) so I have just broken back through a 1000. SO far the team works well, with my two main sweepers, Metagross and Lucario, absolutely decimating if they get a sweeping chance. I was using Torterra for rocks and as a Physical pivot, and he was working really well, till I hit the rain Zone (Between approximately 1000-1100 almost everyone uses rain for some reason). At that point his secondary typing really let him down so I ended up switching him to Celebi. Snorlax was also working well, but I was really getting trashed by the weathers other then sand so I ended up switching to a BandTar for pursuiting and weather control. Latios and Landorus round off the team providing Special muscle and speed respectively. Latios seems to be dead weight sometimes then the very next match absoolutely wrecks them with Specs Draco Meteors. Anyways here is the team. Any suggestions are welcome. ... Metagross @ Life Orb Trait: Clear Body EVs: 52 HP / 252 Atk / 204 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Meteor Mash - Ice Punch - Earthquake - Agility Landorus (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Sand Force EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Stone Edge - U-turn - Hidden Power [Ice] Celebi @ Leftovers Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 252 HP / 220 SDef / 36 Spd Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Recover - Stealth Rock - Giga Drain - Hidden Power [Fire] Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Band Trait: Sand Stream EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Stone Edge - Crunch - Pursuit - Superpower Lucario (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Inner Focus EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Swords Dance - Close Combat - ExtremeSpeed - Ice Punch Latios (M) @ Choice Specs Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Draco Meteor - Surf - Hidden Power [Fire] - Trick __________________ Peaks: #247 OU, #4 UU

Mar 12th, 2012, 1:13:37 PM	#110
Lady Alex So, I dashed all over the mansion, and I re-killed them; they were pretty alive when I found them Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 420 Stuck between a Stealth Rock and a hard place	Is that variation even possible? DX __________________

Mar 12th, 2012, 2:30:01 PM	#111
Byrn Dragonstone Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 236	Yeah that was what I thought. The next couple battles were rather big variations too (+45,-9 and +57,-15) so I don't know if it was just the time or whatnot but it was strange. __________________ Peaks: #247 OU, #4 UU

Mar 12th, 2012, 2:39:04 PM	#112
Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,011 Maryland	The first ten battles you have with an alt have abnormally large variations. __________________ [11:56pm] Pwnemon: statutory rape and all [11:56pm] bmelts: i have such a huge boner right now [9:28pm] Kadew: pwnemon that signature is like an x marking the spot of treasure, except instead of treasure its a pile of humorous garbage that turtles crapped out

Mar 12th, 2012, 5:38:38 PM	#113
Harsha Moderator Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 938 Houston, TX Mentor	If you want to prevent such large variations, you can always check the ±200 clause when you click the Find Battle button. __________________ keep me close keep me close

Mar 12th, 2012, 5:39:51 PM	#114
Lady Alex So, I dashed all over the mansion, and I re-killed them; they were pretty alive when I found them Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 420 Stuck between a Stealth Rock and a hard place	I usually just check it around 1250 to prevent silly variations like +2 -30. __________________

Mar 12th, 2012, 5:46:38 PM	#115
SlimMan Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,475 Caroline du Nord	Yo Mafe, you probably don't but remember how I forgot the password for my registered alt and then said I'd take a week off before registering a new alt? Well I forgot to register my new one. Do I have to start all over again, or can I just register this current one? I promise I've only used it with this particular Dark Horse team.......... __________________ Messidor

Mar 12th, 2012, 5:58:15 PM	#116
HiipFire Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 202 in good faith....... right?	Pokemon Online Username:imdabes Hall of Fame Standing: - Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With:Darmanitan Current Ladder Standing:1000 __________________ except not really.

Mar 12th, 2012, 6:27:18 PM	#117
Himanattsu Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 216 East Coast	What is this? The OP didn't really explain it too well. __________________ @Soarin: There's no hax in pokemon. @Soarin: Crits are supposed to happen. @Soarin: Flinches are supposed to happen. @Soarin: Paralysis is supposed to happen. @Soarin: Deal with it.

Mar 12th, 2012, 6:45:05 PM	#118
Lady Alex So, I dashed all over the mansion, and I re-killed them; they were pretty alive when I found them Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 420 Stuck between a Stealth Rock and a hard place	It's a project that aims to show that pokemon who aren't used as frequently are viable in today's OU metagame. Any pokemon whose usage is less than 5% in the previous month's statistics is eligible to be considered a dark horse. In order to make the hall of fame, you have to reach rank 80 or better on the OU ladder on smogon with a rating of at least 1350. It's really fun :) __________________

Mar 12th, 2012, 8:01:01 PM	#119
SuperChillarmy Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 99	I'm having some fun with Alakazam. Peaked at around the 1300s before getting plagued with some bad hax. I've found that Zam has some good offensive synergy with SD Luke.

Mar 12th, 2012, 9:56:45 PM	#122
badabing breathes in shadow Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 751	Pokemon Online Username: get green Hall of Fame Standing: N/A Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: rotom-n Current Ladder Standing: dgf __________________ who is this character

Mar 13th, 2012, 4:57:10 AM	#123
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,188 Bergenfield	Updated the Hall of Fame with Lady Alex's double-psychic wonder! Way to beat ~3 other challengers in an impressive ladder sprint! You're the only challenger to not only succeed every installment of Dark Horse, but to have multiple successful runs within a single month! Congrats for your major success with that team Lady Alex! Honestly, I think the MVP here is by far Deoxys-D. With this viral alien around, HO still kicks butt, and your quick success only reinforces this under-appreciated Pokemon. I am glad that you can also appreciate the utility of Magic Coat on Deoxys-D - it's probably one of the few mons who can pull off that move effectively. I urge you to stick with this team and see if you can go higher on the ladder! I think the one weakness to teams such as yours is Volcarona, who can possibly sweep this team if it leads against Deoxys-D. Dragonite is thus useful for checking this large threat. Scarf Landorus may provide you a more reliable check, as well as an additional Volt-Turn abuser / check to Sand. Scarf Infernape, Scarf Mienshao, and Scarf MoxieMence are all viable options that you may possibly want to consider over Dragonite's spot. Again, Congrats Lady Alex for your impressive feat! __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Mar 13th, 2012, 5:31:32 PM	#125
alexwolf King of Conquerors Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,635 Greece	Pokemon Online Username: koum kapi 2 Hall of Fame Standing: none Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Dugtrio, Shaymin Current Ladder Standing: 1000 @ Nature: Jolly EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe Ability: Arena Trap - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Reversal - Aerial Ace @ Nature: Modest EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe Ability: Natural Cure - Seed Flare - Earth Power - Hidden Power Ice - Rest __________________ Part of the OU QC team, message me for a check!