Speed Run Challenge

Sprocket · Mar 11th, 2012, 12:08:55 PM

Welcome to Smogon's Speed Run Challenge thread!

What is the Speed Run Challenge?
The Speed Run Challenge is to see how quickly you can clear the main Pokémon games, from the moment you create your character and receive your starter Pokémon to the very final "story" challenge in the game. Your speed is determined by your game's play time (according to the in-game clock) plus five minutes for each time you manually save your game file.

An example of what I'm talking about is found at Speed Demos Archive.

Here are the rules:

Rule 1: The game is considered cleared when you complete the primary story objective of said game.

For most Pokémon games this means simply beating the Elite Four for the first time to be considered "Elite Four Cleared". Some games (such as HeartGold and SoulSilver) have post-Elite Four content (ie: the Kanto Gym Leaders + Red) that must also be completed to be considered 'Post-Elite Four Main Story Cleared'. A few games allow you to rematch the Elite Four, and the rematch must be completed to be considered "100% cleared". See the specific game for details.

Rule 2: No outside communication for any reason.

You can only catch/receive/trade Pokémon that can be found inside your game that do not require communication with the outside world. Complete list of prohibitions:

No link trades, wireless trades, C-Gear trades, Time Capsule, etc (all generations).
No linking to other games for any reason (ie: no Pokémon Stadium, Pokémon Battle Revolution, Pokemon XD, etc, when playing a portable game)
No Pokéwalker (HeartGold and SoulSilver)
No Pal Park (Gen IV)
No C-Gear, Extralink, Dream World, Poké Transfer, Relocator (Black and White)
No Mystery Gifts (all generations)
No Pokémon Global Link or Global Trade Station

Trading with in-game NPCs is allowed.

As a point of clarification, playing the Game Boy games on Pokémon Stadium 1 and 2 and utilizing the fast-gameplay function is allowed, so long as no trading or other interaction is done.

Rule 3: RNG Abuse for your starters and other RNG manipulations is discouraged, but not outright prevented. However if you do RNG manipulate please make mention of this, and when/where you do this.

Soft resetting to get a desirable starter is allowed, and is not considered RNG manipulation.

Rule 4: Each Save penalizes your time by 5 minutes.

The idea is to speed run through the game, not soft reset when a fight goes wrong. To that end, each time you save your game, increase your final time by 5 minutes to get your actual final time. You will of course need to keep track of the number of times you save your game.

The exception to this rule is forced saves that the game imposes, usually as a result of defeating the Elite Four.

Rule 5: Glitch abuse is allowed, but discouraged. You must mention if you abuse glitches or not.

Rule 6: Playing on an emulator is allowed as long as you don't manipulate the game; it must be as close to the actual console experience as possible.

Rule 7: No cheat devices of any kind.

Rule 8: Tool assisted speed runs are not allowed. If it can't be done on the actual carts by a human without assistance, it doesn't count.

What is considered "clearing" the game?

This varies game-to-game, and generation to generation. See the leaderboards for information.

Leaderboards

Generation I:
All Games
Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (your Rival) at the Indigo Plateau for the first time.

Mark McKenzie (via Speed Demos Archive): 2:04 (0 saves) - Blue version
Jacob McMillin (via Speed Demos Archive): 2:39 (0 saves) - Red version

Generation II:
All Games
Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Lance) at the Indigo Plateau for the first time.

None yet

Post-Elite Four Clear: After receiving all 16 gym badges, defeat Red on Mt. Silver.

Mike 'mike89' McKenzie (via Speed Demos Archive): 3:52 (0 saves) - Crystal version
James 'Brown Bomber' Bunkley (via Speed Demos Archive): 6:15 (4:15 played + 12 saves) - Gold version

Generation III
Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald:
Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Steven in Ruby/Sapphire, and Wallace in Emerald) at Ever Grande City for the first time.

Sam 'Mouldy Cheese' Beekman (via Speed Demos Archive) - 5:41:21 (1:54:21 played + 48 saves) - Sapphire version

FireRed, LeafGreen:
Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (your Rival) at the Indigo Plateau for the first time.

Darren 'Ultimate Darius' Cornell (via Speed Demos Archive) - 2:49:09 (0 saves) - FireRed version

Elite Four Rematch Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (your Rival) at the Indigo Plateau a second time.

Darren 'Ultimate Darius' Cornell (via Speed Demos Archive) - 5:16 (0 saves) - FireRed version

Generation IV
Diamond and Pearl:
Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Cynthia) at the Pokemon League for the first time.

None yet

Platinum:
Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Cynthia) at the Pokemon League for the first time.

None yet

Elite Four Rematch Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion a second time, after receiving the National Pokédex.

None yet

HeartGold and SoulSilver:
Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Lance) at the Indigo Plateau for the first time

None yet

Post-Elite Four Clear: Receive all 16 gym badges, and defeat Red on Mt. Silver for the first time

Sprocket (unofficial): 9:00 - HeartGold version

100% Clear: Receive all 16 gym badges, and then defeat Lance at the Indigo Plateau again, and defeat Red on Mt. Silver

None yet

Generation V
Black and White:
Main Story Clear: Defeat Ghetsis in N's Castle

None yet

Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Alder) after receiving the National Pokédex.

None yet

That's it. Have fun!

Sprocket · Mar 11th, 2012, 12:29:08 PM

So to start us off, I did a fairly sloppy "Post-Elite Four Clear" of HeartGold in about 8 hours (I'll admit I didn't keep track of my saves, but it was pretty frequent, so call it 9 hours for good measure). As my starter I picked Totodile, simply because it's the very best of the three HeartGold starters, with access to just the right coverage moves, and an excellent typing all around.

My final team ended up as:

Feraligatr, Level 80 @ NeverMeltIce
Rash Nature
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Crunch
-Ice Fang

Feraligatr was my bread and butter Pokemon. With his excellent type coverage and wide move pool, as well as access to the ever-important Surf and Waterfall for world navigation, there was little that Feraligatr couldn't handle, not even Red's Pikachu (with some X-Defend and X-Sp.Def support)

Kenya the Fearow, Level 30
-Fly

Kenya was only on my party for Fly, to make it easy to go from city to city. She did prove useful in a couple of the double battles, as a secondary target to keep Feraligatr alive.

Sentret, level 5
-Surf
-Whirlpool
-Cut

Sentret was my HM Bitch, nothing more. I also caught a level 6 Furrett on Route 1, but I for the life of me don't remember why.

Machop, Level 15
-Rock Smash
-Rock Climb
-Strength

My other HM Bitch. It's better to give these HMs to a Pokemon you never use, as opposed to your Feraligatr.

The two hardest parts for me were the Elite Four, and Red. The Elite Four I had to abuse the hell out of Ethers and Revives, and the occasional X-Defend, because Feraligatr just wasn't strong enough to net OHKOs reliably.

Red's Pikachu ended up being my worst enemy of all. Even with an X-Defend and X-Sp.Def, Pikachu had a strong chance of one shotting Feraligatr with either Thunderbolt or Volt Tackle. It took many, many tries, and lots and lots of X-Defends and X-Sp.Defs before Feraligatr could take a hit well enough to counter-attack. Then it was just a matter of getting past Venusaur, and Red was as good as defeated.

Chuck in Cianwood also proved to be rather annoying, as his Poliwrath resisted my Feraligatr's moveset at the time (Ice Fang, Crunch, Surf, and something else), and also healed from Surf thanks to Water Absorb.

**Taylor** · Mar 11th, 2012, 1:20:57 PM

Speed-runs are one of my personal favorites when it comes to VBA's emulator and the ROMs (hacks). You get to play a multitude of games in succession and enjoy the story because you didn't intend to take forever playing them.

I was wondering if we could possibly host one of these at a certain time, perhaps on IRC? I'd seriously recommend #pokemon or just another channel dedicated to this gathering willing to spend an hour to an hour and a half of their time. It's just an idea though maybe for the future.

It wouldn't be hard to gather a dozen or so more who would be interested; possibly do a recording for The Smog one time?

Max212 · Mar 13th, 2012, 2:01:00 AM

Yeah speed runs are very entertaining. I would be interested in this if we can get other people to show interest.

iamQmai · Mar 13th, 2012, 12:33:21 PM

Although illegitimate due to trading, i have completed Leaf Green in less than 4 hours. :)

Metal Bagon · Mar 13th, 2012, 1:31:48 PM

Do you think you should set up a leader board, just so we have something to aim for.

Sprocket · Mar 13th, 2012, 4:15:11 PM

I'm all for a leader board.

bwburke94 · Mar 16th, 2012, 3:46:40 PM

Attempting a solo-Empoleon single-segment speedrun of Platinum (since it's actually a bit shorter and easier than DP) tonight.

EDIT: After the tournament, of course. It'll go into tomorrow morning.

Sprocket · Mar 16th, 2012, 9:55:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat bwburke94

Attempting a solo-Empoleon single-segment speedrun of Platinum (since it's actually a bit shorter and easier than DP) tonight.

EDIT: After the tournament, of course. It'll go into tomorrow morning.

Good luck! I'm eager to hear your report.

bwburke94 · Mar 17th, 2012, 5:57:15 PM

Couldn't get past Gardenia, so I'm attempting a NON-SOLO version of this challenge ASAP.

nyttyn · Mar 22nd, 2012, 9:33:47 AM

I'm going to attempt a Solo-Poke Emerald run this weekend. Well it won't be truly Solo since I'll have a few HM slaves, but oh well dem's the breaks.

This will not be a TAS.
Planning on having 9 saves
1. A save to make sure I catch a specific pokemon with a specific nature and a specific ability. Route 102
2-8 Saves before various bosses, gyms, etc. to make sure RNG doesn't screw me.
9. Save before e4

Also, a few rules for myself!
1. One legendary. One. And only as RNG backup against the e4 and such.
2. To be considered a post-elite four clear, i must beat all of the frontier brains with gold symbols and Steven at the Meteor Falls.
3. I must liek mudkipz.

Professor Science · Mar 23rd, 2012, 3:32:18 AM

^Gold symbols? Well you've certainly given yourself a hard challenge. That's going to take ages.

King Serperior · Mar 23rd, 2012, 8:05:17 AM

.....well, my fastest Run was in FireRed at 13:00 + about 10-15 saves.

Better than my slowest run where it took 100+ saves and 80:00 to beat Red in heartGold >.>

I may restart a game and try for a better run though :)

Longfellow · Mar 23rd, 2012, 12:48:18 PM

My last run on Red was 2:41--no glitches and with Charmander (instead of the faster Squirtle) as my starter.

I'm interested in getting fast at speedrunning with Charmander so I'll stop by from time to time.

lucariojr · May 3rd, 2012, 2:46:40 PM

I think my best time on Ruby is 3:30, but this is on a retail cart with an unknown amount of saves. Sapphire is definitely easier because of Kyogre vs Drake's Salamence, though. I've done Soul Silver with Totodile (only the first E4 challenge) with around 6 hours of playtime, too. What would be the best starter for Platinum? I'm thinking Chimchar, but has anyone done it with Empoleon or Torterra?

Oh yes, and can you skip Brawly in 3rd gen completely or will the E4 not let you in without his badge?

Skyshayde · May 3rd, 2012, 2:51:46 PM

I beat white in 2ish hours, no pics though

StallMandibuzz · May 3rd, 2012, 3:32:41 PM

@Lucario: You have to defeat Brawly sooner or later in RSE, the League won't let you pass without his badge. Same with Lt. Surge in Gen I and III, you can defeat him later on, but you HAVE to beat him. I might give this a try, seems challenging. :3

Professor Science · May 4th, 2012, 5:42:14 AM

I'm thinking of trying this. Do you guys have some tips to make it as fast as possible?

Kaphotics · May 4th, 2012, 6:13:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Skyshayde

I beat white in 2ish hours, no pics though

gonna call bull**** on this one.

Skyshayde · May 4th, 2012, 8:06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Kaphotics

gonna call bull**** on this one.

As I said, no pics

Not asking anyone to believe, just saying

Level 51 · May 4th, 2012, 8:24:15 AM

This may be a bit unofficial, but I beat Ghetsis in 5:27.

The Knights of Wario Land · May 15th, 2012, 10:42:00 AM

Was able to beat Ghetsis in Black in about 11 hours over the course of 2 days last February, without any saves, manipulations, and going by all of the rules, with a team that was at an average level of 41.

Everyone I talk to seems astonished by this for some reason.

Wrave · May 16th, 2012, 5:01:47 PM

I am going to do a solo-Samurott run on Black (with Fly and Cut HM Slaves of course).

Skyshayde · May 16th, 2012, 7:14:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat The Knights of Wario Land

Was able to beat Ghetsis in Black in about 11 hours over the course of 2 days last February, without any saves, manipulations, and going by all of the rules, with a team that was at an average level of 41.

Everyone I talk to seems astonished by this for some reason.

-.-

I see why everyone isn't believing me.

Roie · May 18th, 2012, 3:53:27 AM

Why is there a penalty for saving? Saving takes time, then it takes more time to redo the section you saved for. So you are adding 5 minutes for no reason on a game that is so very based on random chance? Ridiculous.

Mar 11th, 2012, 12:08:55 PM	#1
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	Speed Run Challenge Welcome to Smogon's Speed Run Challenge thread! What is the Speed Run Challenge? The Speed Run Challenge is to see how quickly you can clear the main Pokémon games, from the moment you create your character and receive your starter Pokémon to the very final "story" challenge in the game. Your speed is determined by your game's play time (according to the in-game clock) plus five minutes for each time you manually save your game file. An example of what I'm talking about is found at Speed Demos Archive. Here are the rules: Rule 1: The game is considered cleared when you complete the primary story objective of said game. For most Pokémon games this means simply beating the Elite Four for the first time to be considered "Elite Four Cleared". Some games (such as HeartGold and SoulSilver) have post-Elite Four content (ie: the Kanto Gym Leaders + Red) that must also be completed to be considered 'Post-Elite Four Main Story Cleared'. A few games allow you to rematch the Elite Four, and the rematch must be completed to be considered "100% cleared". See the specific game for details. Rule 2: No outside communication for any reason. You can only catch/receive/trade Pokémon that can be found inside your game that do not require communication with the outside world. Complete list of prohibitions: No link trades, wireless trades, C-Gear trades, Time Capsule, etc (all generations). No linking to other games for any reason (ie: no Pokémon Stadium, Pokémon Battle Revolution, Pokemon XD, etc, when playing a portable game) No Pokéwalker (HeartGold and SoulSilver) No Pal Park (Gen IV) No C-Gear, Extralink, Dream World, Poké Transfer, Relocator (Black and White) No Mystery Gifts (all generations) No Pokémon Global Link or Global Trade Station Trading with in-game NPCs is allowed. As a point of clarification, playing the Game Boy games on Pokémon Stadium 1 and 2 and utilizing the fast-gameplay function is allowed, so long as no trading or other interaction is done. Rule 3: RNG Abuse for your starters and other RNG manipulations is discouraged, but not outright prevented. However if you do RNG manipulate please make mention of this, and when/where you do this. Soft resetting to get a desirable starter is allowed, and is not considered RNG manipulation. Rule 4: Each Save penalizes your time by 5 minutes. The idea is to speed run through the game, not soft reset when a fight goes wrong. To that end, each time you save your game, increase your final time by 5 minutes to get your actual final time. You will of course need to keep track of the number of times you save your game. The exception to this rule is forced saves that the game imposes, usually as a result of defeating the Elite Four. Rule 5: Glitch abuse is allowed, but discouraged. You must mention if you abuse glitches or not. Rule 6: Playing on an emulator is allowed as long as you don't manipulate the game; it must be as close to the actual console experience as possible. Rule 7: No cheat devices of any kind. Rule 8: Tool assisted speed runs are not allowed. If it can't be done on the actual carts by a human without assistance, it doesn't count. What is considered "clearing" the game? This varies game-to-game, and generation to generation. See the leaderboards for information. Leaderboards Generation I: All Games Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (your Rival) at the Indigo Plateau for the first time. Mark McKenzie (via Speed Demos Archive): 2:04 (0 saves) - Blue version Jacob McMillin (via Speed Demos Archive): 2:39 (0 saves) - Red version Generation II: All Games Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Lance) at the Indigo Plateau for the first time. None yet Post-Elite Four Clear: After receiving all 16 gym badges, defeat Red on Mt. Silver. Mike 'mike89' McKenzie (via Speed Demos Archive): 3:52 (0 saves) - Crystal version James 'Brown Bomber' Bunkley (via Speed Demos Archive): 6:15 (4:15 played + 12 saves) - Gold version Generation III Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald: Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Steven in Ruby/Sapphire, and Wallace in Emerald) at Ever Grande City for the first time. Sam 'Mouldy Cheese' Beekman (via Speed Demos Archive) - 5:41:21 (1:54:21 played + 48 saves) - Sapphire version FireRed, LeafGreen: Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (your Rival) at the Indigo Plateau for the first time. Darren 'Ultimate Darius' Cornell (via Speed Demos Archive) - 2:49:09 (0 saves) - FireRed version Elite Four Rematch Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (your Rival) at the Indigo Plateau a second time. Darren 'Ultimate Darius' Cornell (via Speed Demos Archive) - 5:16 (0 saves) - FireRed version Generation IV Diamond and Pearl: Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Cynthia) at the Pokemon League for the first time. None yet Platinum: Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Cynthia) at the Pokemon League for the first time. None yet Elite Four Rematch Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion a second time, after receiving the National Pokédex. None yet HeartGold and SoulSilver: Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Lance) at the Indigo Plateau for the first time None yet Post-Elite Four Clear: Receive all 16 gym badges, and defeat Red on Mt. Silver for the first time Sprocket (unofficial): 9:00 - HeartGold version 100% Clear: Receive all 16 gym badges, and then defeat Lance at the Indigo Plateau again, and defeat Red on Mt. Silver None yet Generation V Black and White: Main Story Clear: Defeat Ghetsis in N's Castle None yet Elite Four Clear: Defeat the Elite Four Champion (Alder) after receiving the National Pokédex. None yet That's it. Have fun! __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded) Last edited by Sprocket; Mar 16th, 2012 at 7:55:41 AM.

Mar 11th, 2012, 12:29:08 PM	#2
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	So to start us off, I did a fairly sloppy "Post-Elite Four Clear" of HeartGold in about 8 hours (I'll admit I didn't keep track of my saves, but it was pretty frequent, so call it 9 hours for good measure). As my starter I picked Totodile, simply because it's the very best of the three HeartGold starters, with access to just the right coverage moves, and an excellent typing all around. My final team ended up as: Feraligatr, Level 80 @ NeverMeltIce Rash Nature -Waterfall -Earthquake -Crunch -Ice Fang Feraligatr was my bread and butter Pokemon. With his excellent type coverage and wide move pool, as well as access to the ever-important Surf and Waterfall for world navigation, there was little that Feraligatr couldn't handle, not even Red's Pikachu (with some X-Defend and X-Sp.Def support) Kenya the Fearow, Level 30 -Fly Kenya was only on my party for Fly, to make it easy to go from city to city. She did prove useful in a couple of the double battles, as a secondary target to keep Feraligatr alive. Sentret, level 5 -Surf -Whirlpool -Cut Sentret was my HM Bitch, nothing more. I also caught a level 6 Furrett on Route 1, but I for the life of me don't remember why. Machop, Level 15 -Rock Smash -Rock Climb -Strength My other HM Bitch. It's better to give these HMs to a Pokemon you never use, as opposed to your Feraligatr. The two hardest parts for me were the Elite Four, and Red. The Elite Four I had to abuse the hell out of Ethers and Revives, and the occasional X-Defend, because Feraligatr just wasn't strong enough to net OHKOs reliably. Red's Pikachu ended up being my worst enemy of all. Even with an X-Defend and X-Sp.Def, Pikachu had a strong chance of one shotting Feraligatr with either Thunderbolt or Volt Tackle. It took many, many tries, and lots and lots of X-Defends and X-Sp.Defs before Feraligatr could take a hit well enough to counter-attack. Then it was just a matter of getting past Venusaur, and Red was as good as defeated. Chuck in Cianwood also proved to be rather annoying, as his Poliwrath resisted my Feraligatr's moveset at the time (Ice Fang, Crunch, Surf, and something else), and also healed from Surf thanks to Water Absorb. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Mar 13th, 2012, 12:33:21 PM	#5
iamQmai Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 46	Although illegitimate due to trading, i have completed Leaf Green in less than 4 hours. :) __________________ Pokemon Silver LP - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA7B40C15B161BB9D Going to play through: Pokemon Green (Not leaf) (scramble) Pokemon RSE Nuzlocke.

Mar 13th, 2012, 4:15:11 PM	#7
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	I'm all for a leader board. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Mar 16th, 2012, 3:46:40 PM	#8
bwburke94 Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 182	Attempting a solo-Empoleon single-segment speedrun of Platinum (since it's actually a bit shorter and easier than DP) tonight. EDIT: After the tournament, of course. It'll go into tomorrow morning. __________________ Founder (and only member) of the Free Cacturne movement. Last edited by bwburke94; Mar 16th, 2012 at 7:34:15 PM.

Mar 11th, 2012, 1:20:57 PM	#3
Taylor no.... no i do not look like psyduck Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,990 play?	Speed-runs are one of my personal favorites when it comes to VBA's emulator and the ROMs (hacks). You get to play a multitude of games in succession and enjoy the story because you didn't intend to take forever playing them. I was wondering if we could possibly host one of these at a certain time, perhaps on IRC? I'd seriously recommend #pokemon or just another channel dedicated to this gathering willing to spend an hour to an hour and a half of their time. It's just an idea though maybe for the future. It wouldn't be hard to gather a dozen or so more who would be interested; possibly do a recording for The Smog one time?

Mar 13th, 2012, 2:01:00 AM	#4
Max212 Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 245 California	Yeah speed runs are very entertaining. I would be interested in this if we can get other people to show interest.

Mar 13th, 2012, 1:31:48 PM	#6
Metal Bagon Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,669	Do you think you should set up a leader board, just so we have something to aim for.

Mar 17th, 2012, 5:57:15 PM	#10
bwburke94 Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 182	Couldn't get past Gardenia, so I'm attempting a NON-SOLO version of this challenge ASAP. __________________ Founder (and only member) of the Free Cacturne movement.

Mar 22nd, 2012, 9:33:47 AM	#11
nyttyn Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 637 O' Dharma! The world is filled with light...	I'm going to attempt a Solo-Poke Emerald run this weekend. Well it won't be truly Solo since I'll have a few HM slaves, but oh well dem's the breaks. This will not be a TAS. Planning on having 9 saves 1. A save to make sure I catch a specific pokemon with a specific nature and a specific ability. Route 102 2-8 Saves before various bosses, gyms, etc. to make sure RNG doesn't screw me. 9. Save before e4 Also, a few rules for myself! 1. One legendary. One. And only as RNG backup against the e4 and such. 2. To be considered a post-elite four clear, i must beat all of the frontier brains with gold symbols and Steven at the Meteor Falls. 3. I must liek mudkipz. __________________ http://i.imgur.com/M88s8ua.gif

Mar 23rd, 2012, 3:32:18 AM	#12
Professor Science Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 316 On a meteor. Or something.	^Gold symbols? Well you've certainly given yourself a hard challenge. That's going to take ages. __________________ Homestuck That's all I have to say.

Mar 23rd, 2012, 8:05:17 AM	#13
King Serperior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,827 I am an "Andalite Bandit." Shiver in fear while you can, Yeerks. We're coming for you!	.....well, my fastest Run was in FireRed at 13:00 + about 10-15 saves. Better than my slowest run where it took 100+ saves and 80:00 to beat Red in heartGold >.> I may restart a game and try for a better run though :) __________________ CAP ASB Team Read the Animorphs here. Seriously, click the link if you're a fan or are interested!! Notice: will be inactive for a day or two. Shouldn't be more than 2 days.. Sorry, please forgive me.

Mar 23rd, 2012, 12:48:18 PM	#14
Longfellow Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 156	My last run on Red was 2:41--no glitches and with Charmander (instead of the faster Squirtle) as my starter. I'm interested in getting fast at speedrunning with Charmander so I'll stop by from time to time.

May 3rd, 2012, 2:46:40 PM	#15
lucariojr stranger'n a snake's suspenders, but sweeter'n a stolen kiss Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 955 Mississippi	I think my best time on Ruby is 3:30, but this is on a retail cart with an unknown amount of saves. Sapphire is definitely easier because of Kyogre vs Drake's Salamence, though. I've done Soul Silver with Totodile (only the first E4 challenge) with around 6 hours of playtime, too. What would be the best starter for Platinum? I'm thinking Chimchar, but has anyone done it with Empoleon or Torterra? Oh yes, and can you skip Brawly in 3rd gen completely or will the E4 not let you in without his badge? __________________ aint i a piece of work

May 3rd, 2012, 2:51:46 PM	#16
Skyshayde Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 365 On Earth	I beat white in 2ish hours, no pics though

May 3rd, 2012, 3:32:41 PM	#17
StallMandibuzz Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 779 Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!~~~	@Lucario: You have to defeat Brawly sooner or later in RSE, the League won't let you pass without his badge. Same with Lt. Surge in Gen I and III, you can defeat him later on, but you HAVE to beat him. I might give this a try, seems challenging. :3 __________________ ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US~ O_O Medium-Hard HeartGold Scramble! Black Scramblocke!~ Insanely Hard Platinum Scramble!

May 4th, 2012, 5:42:14 AM	#18
Professor Science Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 316 On a meteor. Or something.	I'm thinking of trying this. Do you guys have some tips to make it as fast as possible? __________________ Homestuck That's all I have to say.

May 4th, 2012, 8:24:15 AM	#21
Level 51 barely clinging on Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 758 Location: Singapore ^.^	This may be a bit unofficial, but I beat Ghetsis in 5:27.

May 15th, 2012, 10:42:00 AM	#22
The Knights of Wario Land Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 818 Philadelphia	Was able to beat Ghetsis in Black in about 11 hours over the course of 2 days last February, without any saves, manipulations, and going by all of the rules, with a team that was at an average level of 41. Everyone I talk to seems astonished by this for some reason. __________________ Newark VGC 2011: First round loss Philadelphia VGC 2012: 3-4 74th place Philadelphia VGC 2013: 5-3 29th place Art Thread

May 16th, 2012, 5:01:47 PM	#23
Wrave Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 196	I am going to do a solo-Samurott run on Black (with Fly and Cut HM Slaves of course). __________________ Diamond FC: 2623 1652 7198

May 18th, 2012, 3:53:27 AM	#25
Roie Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 59	Why is there a penalty for saving? Saving takes time, then it takes more time to redo the section you saved for. So you are adding 5 minutes for no reason on a game that is so very based on random chance? Ridiculous.