Dream World Speed Tiers

**NixHex** · Feb 11th, 2012, 2:59:38 PM

Okay, I added in all the important banned-from-ou-but-legal-in-dw Pokemon.

blah blah speed is important blah blah

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Originally Posted by Fat OU Speed Tiers

The asterisks indicate two important notes: if a Pokemon has a * by its name, it often carries a Hidden Power—typically Fire, Fighting, Psychic, or Rock—that requires it to lower its Speed IV by one. If you decide to use this Hidden Power, you will need to account for that accordingly. If a Pokemon has ** by its name, that means that it lowers its IV by 1, but a two-stage boost means that its final Speed will be two lower than the given value.

Tier 0 (All require boost except Deoxys-S)

Speed Stat Pokemon Base Speed Nature EVs Boost
692 Terrakion 108 +Spe 252 2
690 Ninjask 160 +Spe 252 1
662 Landorus 101 +Spe 252 2
652 Genesect 99 +Spe 252 2
630 Terrakion 108 Neutral 252 2
619 Ninjask 160 +Spe 80 1
604 Excadrill 88 +Spe 252 2
594 Genesect 99 Neutral 252 2
558 Lucario, Porygon-Z** 90 Neutral 252 2
550 Excadrill 88 Neutral 252 2
525 Latios* 110 +Spe 252 1
520 Volcarona** 100 +Spe 96 2
519 Terrakion, Keldeo 108 +Spe 252 1
518 Venusaur** 80 Neutral 252 2
510 Sawsbuck 95 Neutral 116 2
508 Mienshao 105 +Spe 252 1

Tier 1 (>Max Base 130 Speed to Max Base 180 Speed)

Speed Stat Pokemon Base Speed Nature EVs Boost
504 Deoxys-S 180 +Spe 0
500 Cloyster, Metagross 70 +Spe 208 2
499 Garchomp 102 +Spe 1
496 Landorus 101 +Spe 252 1
494 Kingdra 85 Neutral 164 2
492 Salamence, Jirachi, Volcarona* 100 +Spe 252 1
489 Genesect 99 +Spe 252 1
486 Hydreigon 98 +Spe 252 1
484 Volcarona** 100 +Spe 24 2
483 Haxorus 97 +Spe 252 1
475 Kyurem, Darmanitan 95 +Spe 252 1
459 Lucario, Porygon-Z* 90 +Spe 252 1
459 Deoxys-S 180 Neutral 0
454 Garchomp 102 Neutral 1
448 Salamence, Jirachi, Volcarona* 100 Neutral 252 1
447 Rotom-A 86 +Spe 252 1
446 Gorebyss, Huntail 52 +Spe 252 2
445 Genesect 99 Neutral 252 1
442 Nidoking 85 +Spe 252 1
439 Haxorus 97 Neutral 252 1
433 Electivire, Darmanitan 95 Neutral 252 1
432 Empoleon 60 Neutral 240 2
430 Gyarados 81 +Spe 252 1
427 Accelgor 145 +Spe 252 0
427 Haxorus 97 Neutral 220 1
426 Dragonite, Blaziken 80 +Spe 252 1
420 Electivire 95 Neutral 216 1
417 Heatran 77 +Spe 252 1
409 Dragonite, Blaziken 80 +Spe 212 1
404 Gorebyss, Huntail 52 Neutral 252 2
403 Kingdra, Heracross 85 Neutral 252 1
398 Gorebyss, Huntail 52 Neutral 236 2
398 Tangrowth 50 Neutral 252 2

Tier 2 (>Max Base 111 Speed to Base 130 Speed)

Speed Stat Pokemon Base Speed Nature EVs Boost
394 Jolteon, Aerodactyl 130 +Spe 252 0
393 Politoed 70 +Spe 252 1
391 Gyarados 81 Neutral 252 1
390 Meloetta-P 128 +Spe 252 0
388 Dragonite, Blaziken 80 Neutral 252 1
383 Weavile 125 +Spe 252 0
375 Dragonite 80 Neutral 212 1
372 Sceptile*, Dugtrio, Alakazam 120 +Spe 252 0
366 Gyarados 81 Neutral 184 1
366 Metagross 70 +Spe 184 1
365 Dugtrio 120 +Spe 224 0
364 Tyranitar 61 +Spe 252 1
361 Starmie, Azelf, Raikou 115 +Spe 252 0
360 Magnezone 60 +Spe 252 1
358 Politoed 70 Neutral 252 1
355 Abomasnow 60 +Spe 240 1
355 Meloetta-P 128 Neutral 252 0
354 Scrafty 58 +Spe 252 1
353 Tornadus, Thundurus 111 +Spe 252 0

Tier 3 (Max Speed Modest Heatran to Max Base 110 Speed)

Speed Stat Pokemon Base Speed Nature EVs Boost
350 Gengar, Latios*, Latias, Espeon* 110 +Spe 252 0
346 Infernape, Terrakion, Virizion, Keldeo 108 +Spe 252 0
339 Zoroark, Mienshao 105 +Spe 252 0
333 Garchomp 102 +Spe 0
332 Mienshao 105 +Spe 224 0 300 Zoroark 105 Neutral 216 0
331 Landorus 101 +Spe 252 0 329 Raikou 115 Neutral 252 0
328 Salamence, Jirachi, Volcarona*, Manaphy 100 +Spe 252 0
326 Genesect 99 +Spe 252 0
321 Thundurus 111 Neutral 252 0
317 Kyurem, Darmanitan 95 +Spe 252 0
315 Keldeo 108 Neutral 252 0
308 Salamence, Jirachi, Zapdos 100 +Spe 176 0
306 Lucario, Meloetta, Roserade* 90 +Spe 252 0
303 Garchomp 102 Neutral 0
302 Excadrill 88 +Spe 252 0
300 Zoroark 105 Neutral 216 0
299 Salamence, Jirachi, Volcarona*, Manaphy 100 Neutral 252 0
298 Rotom-A 86 +Spe 252 0
297 Genesect 99 Neutral 252 0
295 Nidoking, Suicune 85 +Spe 252 0
295 Hydreigon 98 Neutral 252 0
293 Haxorus 97 Neutral 252 0
289 Darmanitan, Electivire, Gliscor 95 Neutral 252 0
285 Haxorus 97 Neutral 220 0
284 Venusaur*, Mamoswine, Dragonite, Blaziken 80 +Spe 252 0
280 Kyurem, Electivire 95 Neutral 216 0
280 Togekiss 80 +Spe 236 0
280 Hydreigon 98 Neutral 192 0
279 Lucario, Meloetta 90 Neutral 252 0
278 Heatran 77 +Spe 252 0
275 Excadrill 88 Neutral 252 0
273 Smeargle 75 +Spe 252 0
270 Ninetales 100 Neutral 136 0
269 Toxicroak 85 Neutral 252 0
268 Whimsocott 116 Neutral 0 0
263 Ninetales 100 Neutral 108 0
262 Politoed, Breloom 70 +Spe 252 0
261 Gyarados 81 Neutral 252 0
259 Venusaur*, Mamoswine, Dragonite, Blaziken 80 Neutral 252 0
256 Latias* Neutral 0 0
253 Heatran 77 Neutral 252 0

Tier 4 (Min Base 55 Spe to Max Base 65 Speed)

Speed Stat Pokemon Base Speed Nature EVs Boost
251 Scizor 65 +Spe 252 0
250 Cloyster, Metagross 70 +Spe 208 0
249 Togekiss, Dragonite 80 Neutral 212 0
247 Kingdra 85 Neutral 164 0
245 Togekiss, Dragonite 80 Neutral 196 0
245 Heatran 77 Neutral 220 0
244 Celebi*, Zapdos 100 Neutral 32 0
244 Gliscor 95 Neutral 72 0
244 Rotom-A 86 Neutral 144 0
244 Gyarados 81 Neutral 184 0
244 Jirachi 100 Neutral 32 0
243 Tyranitar 61 +Spe 252 0
240 Tentacruel 100 Neutral 16 0
239 Politoed, Breloom 70 Neutral 252 0
237 Breloom 70 Neutral 244 0
236 Scrafty 58 +Spe 252 0
232 Magnezone 60 +Spe 220 0
230 Heatran 77 Neutral 160 0
229 Scizor 65 Neutral 252 0
226 Xatu 95 Neutral 0 0
223 Gorebyss, Huntail 52 +Spe 252 0
216 Roserade* 90 Neutral 0 0
206 Suicune, Toxicroak 85 Neutral 0 0
199 Tangrowth 50 Neutral 252 0
198 Gorebyss, Huntail 52 Neutral 232 0
198 Gyarados, Milotic 81 Neutral 0 0
198 Vaporeon 65 Neutral 128 0
196 Venusaur*, Togekiss, Dragonite 80 Neutral 0 0
190 Heatran 77 Neutral 0 0
182 Skarmory, Breloom, Metagross, Hitmontop 70 Neutral 24 0
178 Machamp 55 Neutral 128 0
177 Vaporeon 65 Neutral 44 0
176 Cloyster, Metagross, Hitmontop 70 Neu 0 0
168 Scizor 65 Neutral 8 0
167 Jellicent 60 Neutral 44 0
166 Scizor, Vaporeon 65 Neutral 0 0
158 Tyranitar 61 Neutral 0 0
156 Magnezone, Abomasnow, Empoleon 60 Neutral 0 0
152 Scrafty 58 Neutral 0 0
147 Tyranitar 61 -Spe 24 0
146 Machamp, Blissey 55 Neutral 0 0

Tier 5 (<Base 50 Speed)

Speed Stat Pokemon Base Speed Nature EVs Boost
136 Chansey, Azumarill, Donphan, Tangrowth 50 Neutral 0 0
130 Hippowdon 47 Neutral 0 0
126 Conkeldurr 45 Neutral 0 0
116 Forretress 40 Neutral 0 0
114 Gastrodon 39 Neutral 0 0
106 Quagsire 35 Neutral 0 0
102 Bronzong 33 Neutral 0 0
96 Reuniclus, Slowbro, Snorlax 30 Neutral 0 0
86 Dusclops 25 Neutral 0 0
85 Conkeldurr (0 Spe IV) 45 -Spe 0 0
76 Forretress (0 Spe IV) 40 -Spe 0 0
76 Ferrothorn, Escavalier 20 Neutral 0 0
65 Bronzong, Reuniclus, Slowbro, Snorlax (0 Spe IV) 30 -Spe 0 0
40 Ferrothorn, Escavalier (0 Spe IV) 20 -Spe 0 0

Jukain · Feb 11th, 2012, 7:13:18 PM

You are a god. Thank you.

Bologo · Feb 15th, 2012, 2:18:27 AM

Don't forget Serperior who's a base 113!

Calm Pokemaster · Mar 14th, 2012, 10:19:41 AM

tiny nitpick - I noticed that Unburden Hitmomlee was included in the DW Threatlist in the RMT sub-forum, so I thought it might have to be included here, even though it is an admittedly very obscure threat. It sits at 546 Speed with a neutral nature after Unburden activates.

Tendie · Mar 15th, 2012, 12:04:34 PM

Gyarados 81 Neutral 188 2 hits 490 speed; enough to outrun Genesect.

Feb 11th, 2012, 7:13:18 PM	#2
Jukain rip numeros Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,671 somewhere could be anywhere Mentor	You are a god. Thank you. __________________ C&C Work \| 1k RMT \| Contribute! \| VM for an OU Rate! \| gp member: vm/pm for a check \| previously pokemon0078 / aka jew-cane

Feb 15th, 2012, 2:18:27 AM	#3
Bologo Have fun with birds and bees. Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,828 Brampton, Ontario	Don't forget Serperior who's a base 113!

Mar 14th, 2012, 10:19:41 AM	#4
Calm Pokemaster Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,352 Chennai, India	tiny nitpick - I noticed that Unburden Hitmomlee was included in the DW Threatlist in the RMT sub-forum, so I thought it might have to be included here, even though it is an admittedly very obscure threat. It sits at 546 Speed with a neutral nature after Unburden activates.

Mar 15th, 2012, 12:04:34 PM	#5
Tendie Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 59	Gyarados 81 Neutral 188 2 hits 490 speed; enough to outrun Genesect.