Smogon University PO Statistics — March 2012 - Page 2

Jobriq · Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:05:53 AM

This should be interesting to see how RU replaces claydol as premier spinner/SR user. Unless everyone gives up and plays different tiers instead.....

Sprocket · Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:10:13 AM

The top 10 for Rated VGC2012 are quite fascinating and radically different from last month.

New Top 10:
Metagross from #7 to #1 (it really is just friggin that awesome though)
Tyranitar from #4 to #2
Hitmontop from #1 to #3 (likely because Metagross is a near perfect counter for it, if it runs Zen Headbutt)
Chandelure from #3 to #4
Cresselia unchanged at #5
Abomasnow from #12 to #6
Togekiss from #32 to #7 (wtf?!)
Zapdos from #2 to #8
Ferrothorn from #27 to #9 (wtf?!)
Garchomp from #9 to #10

Old Top 10:
Scizor from #6 to #12
Latios from #8 to #20
Amoonguss from #10 to #24

Other notables:
Volcarona from #11 to #56 (holy crap)
Politoed from #17 to #11
Ninetales from #40 to #57
Rotom-W from #13 to #37 (the highest rated Rotom-A I might add)
Jellicent from #29 to #16

**blarajan** · Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:12:50 AM

Please let this be April Fools 2, Antar. Please.

Sawsbuck AND Charizard in NU? And I thought Sun was bad enough...

Scrafty and Toxicroak still OU? Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Omnigross266 · Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:17:22 AM

Would it be possible in the future to have Balanced Hackmons usage stats from the Pokemon Showdown simulator ?

Choice Socks · Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:28:29 AM

Heatran up at #3 like a boss. Sorry Rotom.

kniteowl · Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:37:37 AM

Charizard is gonna be a pain to deal with if you don't get those rocks up in time.

Thick Fat Miltank and Grumpig are gonna rise in usage and all the base speed 101+ pokemon will rise in usage to revenge him.

Django · Apr 2nd, 2012, 4:07:53 AM

Weeeeeee BAMBI in NU.

erisia · Apr 2nd, 2012, 4:27:28 AM

Well with Charizard, Ludicolo and Sawsbuck dropping down from RU, looks like this'll be the weather round of NU. Although it should be interesting as the #1 weather setter has left the tier (speaking of which, massive sadface!) I get the feeling there'll either be more leads like Electrode, Jumpluff and Volbeat to get things started, or sweepers are going to be more self-sustaining, and using Sunny Day and Rain Dance on their own accord (Ludicolo, Seismitoad, Rapdiash)

Should be an interesting three months now that the most popular mon's left, I won't have to pack Skuntank for Sub CM sets anymore :D

| 51 | Wartortle | 647 | 4.137% |
| 32 | Wartortle | 1032 | 5.653% |

The drop in Wartortle usage is quite surprising, although I definitely support it, as it's a complete pushover.

Also...

| 110 | Omanyte | 215 | 1.375% |
| 255 | Omanyte | 8 | 0.044% |

| 50 | Luxray | 652 | 4.169% |
| 91 | Luxray | 328 | 1.797% |

Carry on my wayward sons...

The QWAZ · Apr 2nd, 2012, 4:28:03 AM

So hitmonlee is still RU they didn't steal all the good pokes then, but seriously put scrafty out of its misery and let it drop.
(use swampert people)

Vein · Apr 2nd, 2012, 5:20:55 AM

Scrafty for UU... He's too cool for to be OU. Guys there are nerds!

On the other hand, Milotic continues to be stuck at the middle/bottom of UU. Haven't played for 2 months. I miss her... the former queen of UU.

**Taylor** · Apr 2nd, 2012, 5:50:23 AM

OU Usage's top 12 appears as if you could make one half of the dozen into a solid rain team and the other six into a vicious sand team.

Breloom's proving to be a Dream World contender; Fight Gem and Life Orb are really useful. Life Orb varients should be Jolly most of the time.

Thanks once again for these useful statistics, Antar!

MrEon17 · Apr 2nd, 2012, 7:06:11 AM

Well for OU to not lose toxicroak and scrafty was more of a 50/50 chance. However the big mover in OU is Hydreigon.

February 2012:
36 | Hydreigon | 15910 | 5.533%

March 2012:
24 | Hydreigon | 7.328% |

Looks like people were liking his awesome coverage and power.

That nice +12 :]

*Thought there was that small chance deoxys-D was on its way up, but hey don't really use it myself anyway. Also it was nice to see azelf getting close to usage for OU :D

Double01 · Apr 2nd, 2012, 7:11:18 AM

If Uxie was a prominent force WITH honch and sharpedo, I can't imagine how much it will be used now.

Also uu sucks for taking sharpedo and screwing over my team :'(.

***Zebraiken**** · Apr 2nd, 2012, 7:55:40 AM

ugh fuck charizard that thing is going to be broken as hell

Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/252+ Lickilicky: 433-511 (102.12 - 120.51%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/0 Alomomola: 540-636 (101.12 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/252+ Camerupt: 251-296 (72.96 - 86.04%) -- guaranteed 2HKO, an OHKO with a little prior damage
Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/252+ Mantine: Fire Blast: 165-195 (49.4 - 58.38%) -- 67.97% chance to 2HKO
Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/252+ Hypno: 381-448 (101.87 - 119.78%) -- guaranteed OHKO

I like the part where nothing without a resistance or immense SpD can take that hit.

Jac · Apr 2nd, 2012, 7:55:48 AM

Im still prolly gonna use Scrafty in OU. He's been real sucessful for me at least.

ol Zard finally back in NU. get ready for rocks.

Dallasboi1992 · Apr 2nd, 2012, 8:05:30 AM

I always felt like PU Tier would have been Pokemon used less than 1% of the time in NU. But then again, the cut off line will always be 3.41%. I actually did do a little PU battle with a friend before the tier was even made and actually landed a kill with a Squirtle (it was meant to be my team's Rapid Spinner, but it still managed to get a kill).

DDRMaster · Apr 2nd, 2012, 8:12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat papita

Also wtf ferrothorn the king of 1337 ubers? Come on

Well that's what happens when you check half the tier. Very little can OHKO it if Rain is up.

I can't say I'm surprised about Honchkrow and Claydol moving up. Claydol moved up to replace Donphan and Honchkrow is a powerhouse with priority that just keeps getting stronger. I'm a little surprised about Gligar and Sharpedo, though, as they always seemed pretty underwhelming in UU.

Either way, it's good news my RU team as Honchkrow always gave it problems and I can use Sandslash as set up fodder just like I did with Claydol. I also think Sandslash and Kabutops usage will rise, as they're really the only good spinners in RU right now.

***Zebraiken**** · Apr 2nd, 2012, 8:21:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat DDRMaster

I also think Sandslash and Kabutops usage will rise, as they're really the only good spinners in RU right now.

calling bs on that, hitmonchan is far better than sandslash and kabutops, although kabu is cute

**FLCL** · Apr 2nd, 2012, 9:16:44 AM

| 19 | Rotom-F | 143 | 10.415% | 112 | 9.745% |
| 37 | Rotom-S | 82 | 5.972% | 64 | 5.568% |

Freezer > Fan ^___^

Jimera0 · Apr 2nd, 2012, 9:58:32 AM

Wow, did RU ever take a blow. While I haven't played the teir before personally I've read enough to know this is going to completely reshape the tier once again. I feel bad for all the people who have to rework their teams now.

As for OU, I honestly was really expecting Scrafty to drop and Deoxys-D to rise, but it looks like we're going to have to wait another 3 months at least before Scrafty makes the fall. Deoxys-D being banned from UU isn't much of a surprise to me either, as I've been hearing so much complaining about spike stacking in the teir and even in OU nothing can really stop Deoxys-D from getting up its spikes.

Thundur · Apr 2nd, 2012, 10:28:01 AM

Ok, first, "Wow. Nothing came in or out of OU. I think that means we found ourselves a balanced tier. " < That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time.

Btw, fuck Scrafty.

Sprocket · Apr 2nd, 2012, 10:35:00 AM

Lead Usage in Ubers:

| 21 | Politoed | 112 | 1.018% |

I don't play Ubers, but isn't Politoed, like, completely outclassed by Kyogre?

Pwnemon · Apr 2nd, 2012, 10:36:45 AM

thank god all of the bullshit is finally out of RU. I'm gonna start playing it again probably

BurningMan · Apr 2nd, 2012, 10:57:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

Lead Usage in Ubers:

| 21 | Politoed | 112 | 1.018% |

I don't play Ubers, but isn't Politoed, like, completely outclassed by Kyogre?

no way, does Kyogre got encore and hypnosis? I don't think so, if anything Kyogre is outclassed by Politoed.
On a more serious note uber stats were always easy to manipulate because there are not many players. With a little patience you can get everything in the ubers top 50.

Looking at the stats OU had almost no bigger shifts in the last few months and seems really balanced, so i am looking forward to the BW 2 and Keldeo release to shake things a little up, because it's getting a little boring at the moment.

Katakiri · Apr 2nd, 2012, 11:12:46 AM

Because the next tier changes will be in 3 months, Scrafty's next chance to fall to UU will be in July after BW2 comes out.

Ain't that a bitch?

Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:12:50 AM	#28
blarajan no abuse pls Moderator Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,715 Mentor	Please let this be April Fools 2, Antar. Please. Sawsbuck AND Charizard in NU? And I thought Sun was bad enough... Scrafty and Toxicroak still OU? Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff __________________ Team Babby: Little Cup in Ubers RMT

Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:28:29 AM	#30
Choice Socks Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 215 New Zealand	Heatran up at #3 like a boss. Sorry Rotom. __________________ I turned on my Charmander pants came off. There is no such thing as over-prediction, you just predicted wrong.

Apr 2nd, 2012, 4:27:28 AM	#33
erisia (macho) brace yourselves Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 852	Well with Charizard, Ludicolo and Sawsbuck dropping down from RU, looks like this'll be the weather round of NU. Although it should be interesting as the #1 weather setter has left the tier (speaking of which, massive sadface!) I get the feeling there'll either be more leads like Electrode, Jumpluff and Volbeat to get things started, or sweepers are going to be more self-sustaining, and using Sunny Day and Rain Dance on their own accord (Ludicolo, Seismitoad, Rapdiash) Should be an interesting three months now that the most popular mon's left, I won't have to pack Skuntank for Sub CM sets anymore :D \| 51 \| Wartortle \| 647 \| 4.137% \| \| 32 \| Wartortle \| 1032 \| 5.653% \| The drop in Wartortle usage is quite surprising, although I definitely support it, as it's a complete pushover. Also... \| 110 \| Omanyte \| 215 \| 1.375% \| \| 255 \| Omanyte \| 8 \| 0.044% \| \| 50 \| Luxray \| 652 \| 4.169% \| \| 91 \| Luxray \| 328 \| 1.797% \| Carry on my wayward sons... __________________ Check out Slowmons: A new metagame where the slowest Pokémon moves first! Last edited by erisia; Apr 2nd, 2012 at 5:14:40 AM.

Apr 2nd, 2012, 4:28:03 AM	#34
The QWAZ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 527 Oxford, UK	So hitmonlee is still RU they didn't steal all the good pokes then, but seriously put scrafty out of its misery and let it drop. (use swampert people) __________________ VM/PM for an OU or RU rate. <undisputed\afk> who is qwaz

Apr 2nd, 2012, 5:20:55 AM	#35
Vein Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,146 Pinas	Scrafty for UU... He's too cool for to be OU. Guys there are nerds! On the other hand, Milotic continues to be stuck at the middle/bottom of UU. Haven't played for 2 months. I miss her... the former queen of UU. __________________ Knicks and knees just don't get along, and until mankind learns to play basketball without using the knees, the Knicks will never win that elusive championship.

Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:05:53 AM	#26
Jobriq Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 58 In a Pineapple Under the Sea	This should be interesting to see how RU replaces claydol as premier spinner/SR user. Unless everyone gives up and plays different tiers instead.....

Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:10:13 AM	#27
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,485 Phoenix, AZ	The top 10 for Rated VGC2012 are quite fascinating and radically different from last month. New Top 10: Metagross from #7 to #1 (it really is just friggin that awesome though) Tyranitar from #4 to #2 Hitmontop from #1 to #3 (likely because Metagross is a near perfect counter for it, if it runs Zen Headbutt) Chandelure from #3 to #4 Cresselia unchanged at #5 Abomasnow from #12 to #6 Togekiss from #32 to #7 (wtf?!) Zapdos from #2 to #8 Ferrothorn from #27 to #9 (wtf?!) Garchomp from #9 to #10 Old Top 10: Scizor from #6 to #12 Latios from #8 to #20 Amoonguss from #10 to #24 Other notables: Volcarona from #11 to #56 (holy crap) Politoed from #17 to #11 Ninetales from #40 to #57 Rotom-W from #13 to #37 (the highest rated Rotom-A I might add) Jellicent from #29 to #16 __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:17:22 AM	#29
Omnigross266 Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 34	Would it be possible in the future to have Balanced Hackmons usage stats from the Pokemon Showdown simulator ? __________________ Peaked at No. 1 in the 'Hackmons' category on Pokemon Showdown on 18.3.2012.

Apr 2nd, 2012, 3:37:37 AM	#31
kniteowl Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 322	Charizard is gonna be a pain to deal with if you don't get those rocks up in time. Thick Fat Miltank and Grumpig are gonna rise in usage and all the base speed 101+ pokemon will rise in usage to revenge him.

Apr 2nd, 2012, 4:07:53 AM	#32
Django Hear me Roar Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,663	Weeeeeee BAMBI in NU.

Apr 2nd, 2012, 5:50:23 AM	#36
Taylor no.... no i do not look like psyduck Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,988 play?	OU Usage's top 12 appears as if you could make one half of the dozen into a solid rain team and the other six into a vicious sand team. Breloom's proving to be a Dream World contender; Fight Gem and Life Orb are really useful. Life Orb varients should be Jolly most of the time. Thanks once again for these useful statistics, Antar! __________________

Apr 2nd, 2012, 7:06:11 AM	#37
MrEon17 Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3	OU The change that never happened Well for OU to not lose toxicroak and scrafty was more of a 50/50 chance. However the big mover in OU is Hydreigon. February 2012: 36 \| Hydreigon \| 15910 \| 5.533% March 2012: 24 \| Hydreigon \| 7.328% \| Looks like people were liking his awesome coverage and power. That nice +12 :] *Thought there was that small chance deoxys-D was on its way up, but hey don't really use it myself anyway. Also it was nice to see azelf getting close to usage for OU :D

Apr 2nd, 2012, 7:11:18 AM	#38
Double01 HSA made me do this... Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 599 I'm a Cheese Head and Proud of It	If Uxie was a prominent force WITH honch and sharpedo, I can't imagine how much it will be used now. Also uu sucks for taking sharpedo and screwing over my team :'(.

Apr 2nd, 2012, 7:55:40 AM	#39
*Zebraiken tell me when the storm rolls in Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,167 shine ∞ Mentor	ugh fuck charizard that thing is going to be broken as hell Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/252+ Lickilicky: 433-511 (102.12 - 120.51%) -- guaranteed OHKO Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/0 Alomomola: 540-636 (101.12 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/252+ Camerupt: 251-296 (72.96 - 86.04%) -- guaranteed 2HKO, an OHKO with a little prior damage Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/252+ Mantine: Fire Blast: 165-195 (49.4 - 58.38%) -- 67.97% chance to 2HKO Specs Timid Fire Blast in Sun vs 252/252+ Hypno: 381-448 (101.87 - 119.78%) -- guaranteed OHKO I like the part where nothing without a resistance or immense SpD can take that hit. __________________

Apr 2nd, 2012, 7:55:48 AM	#40
Jac Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 46 ~I am thou, and thou art me~	Im still prolly gonna use Scrafty in OU. He's been real sucessful for me at least. ol Zard finally back in NU. get ready for rocks. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H5pYCw4ET4 [22:00] <Zelda> greatsage is a newfag compared to me when it comes to showdown

Apr 2nd, 2012, 8:05:30 AM	#41
Dallasboi1992 Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 50	I always felt like PU Tier would have been Pokemon used less than 1% of the time in NU. But then again, the cut off line will always be 3.41%. I actually did do a little PU battle with a friend before the tier was even made and actually landed a kill with a Squirtle (it was meant to be my team's Rapid Spinner, but it still managed to get a kill).

Apr 2nd, 2012, 9:16:44 AM	#44
FLCL Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 972	\| 19 \| Rotom-F \| 143 \| 10.415% \| 112 \| 9.745% \| \| 37 \| Rotom-S \| 82 \| 5.972% \| 64 \| 5.568% \| Freezer > Fan ^___^

Apr 2nd, 2012, 9:58:32 AM	#45
Jimera0 I have to get to GOLDENROD for myEnemy ??????? Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,452 Canada Mentor	Wow, did RU ever take a blow. While I haven't played the teir before personally I've read enough to know this is going to completely reshape the tier once again. I feel bad for all the people who have to rework their teams now. As for OU, I honestly was really expecting Scrafty to drop and Deoxys-D to rise, but it looks like we're going to have to wait another 3 months at least before Scrafty makes the fall. Deoxys-D being banned from UU isn't much of a surprise to me either, as I've been hearing so much complaining about spike stacking in the teir and even in OU nothing can really stop Deoxys-D from getting up its spikes. __________________ Credits for avatar go to my friend Seraphinu! My Scramble Challanges: Found here Current Challange: Hard Emerald Scramble No more video updates, sorry! The Gauntlet Challenge! Need help learning how to battle or getting into the Smogon community? Use the Mentorship Program!

Apr 2nd, 2012, 10:28:01 AM	#46
Thundur Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 436 in a galaxy far, far away...	Ok, first, "Wow. Nothing came in or out of OU. I think that means we found ourselves a balanced tier. " < That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time. Btw, fuck Scrafty. __________________ nope

Apr 2nd, 2012, 10:35:00 AM	#47
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,485 Phoenix, AZ	Lead Usage in Ubers: \| 21 \| Politoed \| 112 \| 1.018% \| I don't play Ubers, but isn't Politoed, like, completely outclassed by Kyogre? __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Apr 2nd, 2012, 10:36:45 AM	#48
Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,954 Maryland	thank god all of the bullshit is finally out of RU. I'm gonna start playing it again probably __________________ [11:56pm] Pwnemon: statutory rape and all [11:56pm] bmelts: i have such a huge boner right now [9:28pm] Kadew: pwnemon that signature is like an x marking the spot of treasure, except instead of treasure its a pile of humorous garbage that turtles crapped out

Apr 2nd, 2012, 11:12:46 AM	#50
Katakiri Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 756 Smogon Mobile. Ugh.	Because the next tier changes will be in 3 months, Scrafty's next chance to fall to UU will be in July after BW2 comes out. Ain't that a bitch? __________________ Take chances, make mistakes, get messy!