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Technical Machine with its worst team: BP
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I decide to use Shadow Ball instead of Hydro Pump. 100% accuracy + the chance for a Special Defense drop is pretty nice. Gliscor uses Rock Polish. I stick with the strategy, but Technical Machine decides to go straight for the most important advantage: Quote:
Technical Machine goes to the best Pokemon to set up on special attackers: Mr. Mime. I use Surf for 23%. I know that Mr. Mime is going to set up a Calm Mind, so my Surf will quickly do nothing. I decide to use Sludge Bomb instead. It's slightly weaker, but it has a chance to Poison, which is better than anything else I can do. Quote:
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Technical Machine gets a little confused here, first using BP and going to Mr. Mime, then immediately BPing to Scizor, giving Celebi some free Calm Minds. Technical Machine is not worried. We both have 4 Calm Minds, but Technical Machine's Scizor is behind a Substitute. I decide it's time to switch to the offensive... Quote:
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My next hope is maybe I can take advantage of Technical Machine's random Baton Passes and set up Spikes. Technical Machine uses Baton Pass to Mr. Mime as I do so. I don't want to risk Psychic, so I flee to Blissey. Quote:
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Astute observers may have noticed that Technical Machine only revealed 5 Pokemon: Gliscor, Smeargle, Mr. Mime, Vaporeon, and Scizor. The final Pokemon is Lucario. The problem is that Technical Machine assigns things like stat boosts higher points if the current Pokemon has Baton Pass, so passing to Lucario is always seen as a big loss unless it can guarantee a win. However, by the time it could see the guaranteed win, it already had its own win by just leaving in Vaporeon. Technical Machine's play could therefore be a lot stronger if I were to add a Pokemon that had Baton Pass in the last slot. For instance, Baton Pass, Air Slash, Aura Sphere, ??? Togekiss or Baton Pass, Thunderbolt, ???, ??? Zapdos. Even something like Baton Pass, Wish, Substitute / Taunt, Dark Pulse / Taunt / Mean Look Umbreon would be a huge benefit.
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Previously obi. Technical Machine, a Pokemon AI. "Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." - Sun Tzu Last edited by Oglemi; Apr 30th, 2012 at 1:01:21 AM. Reason: fixed quote tag |
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Apr 26th, 2012, 6:31:03 PM
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I have always been really impressed with your work on TM. I haven't kept completely up to date on the progress, but this is serious improvement since some of the battles I read about 6 months ago.
I assume that you know TM's team before you start, does it know yours? I remember reading somewhere that it had/has a team predictor based on something. EDIT-read the Team Predictor Page, now I know. while TM's work here is really cool, I would love to see it "improvise" vs a team with Perish Song or Trick users, or the highly offensive team you mentioned. (I might have missed it, but is the search depth 2 for this battle?)
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lars: scolipede is such an under rated lead DiscoLord: it eats cyanide and shits fucking acid ---------------------------------------------------- O.o <--- that is all I have to say Last edited by lars; Apr 26th, 2012 at 6:42:24 PM. |
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Apr 26th, 2012, 9:39:18 PM
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Man, I thought you were pretty good (or at least pretty knowledgeable), and TM comes and just tears you a new one.
I knew the robot apocalypse had already happened--look how many gadgets control our daily lives--but reading this log just struck fear into my heart. Is there an option to change the search depth in an effort to simulate different skill levels, or does one have to dive into the source code to tweak that? I'm still holding out hope that this thing can be a teaching aid more than a robot opponent.
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Apr 26th, 2012, 10:17:09 PM
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Damn obi, this is getting better and better. I'm glad you fixed that glitch between Gliscor/Vaporeon that was there before. The Blissey Flamethrower on Scizor was just hilarious, by the way. He sponged that thing like nothing. A+
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Apr 26th, 2012, 11:41:48 PM
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Fast-moving, smart, sexy and alarming.
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When I run Technical Machine, I use the command aio [depth], which in this case was 3. Trusted users can also PM commands via !depth [depth]. In other words, it's about as simple to change the depth as possible. There is no source code modification necessary.
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Previously obi. Technical Machine, a Pokemon AI. "Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." - Sun Tzu Last edited by david stone; Apr 27th, 2012 at 1:02:48 PM. |
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