(Tournament) Round One Singles: King Serperior vs. LadySalamence - Page 3

King Serperior · Jun 15th, 2012, 10:53:27 PM

All I got is Nidoking.

Let's go and let your cry scare all who oppose!!

Lady Salamence · Jun 16th, 2012, 3:09:01 PM

Other: Substitute (15 HP), Recieves a Wish A1

Ok sure

E: will do actions later

Lady Salamence · Jun 17th, 2012, 8:31:21 PM

Earthquake - Earthquake - Earthquake
If Protect successfully, Chill

E: FUCK YOU GERARD

King Serperior · Jun 17th, 2012, 9:15:47 PM

Enable Sheer Force
Ice Beam~Ice Beam~Ice Beam + Ice Beam combo.

One way or another, this will end!!

typon77 · Jun 19th, 2012, 11:51:58 PM

Pre Round Stats:

King Serperior

HP: 100 | EN: 100
Spe: 85 | Ranks: 3/2/4/3
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Other:

VS.

LadySalamence

HP: 100 | EN: 57%
Spe: 100 | Ranks: 6/3/3/3
Abilities: Intimidate, Moxie
Other: Substitute (5 HP)

It seems that both competitors want to do some serious damage to their opponents, as they both repeatidly hammer their opposition with super effective attacks. Salamence utilizes a trio of crust-shattering Earthquakes, each of which does some serious damage to Nidoking. However, Nidoking responds with an Ice Beam to break the substitute, followed by another Ice Beam to hit the dragon right out of the sky. Nidoking is even utilizing Sheer Force to hit even harder. The truly crushing blow, however, is Nidoking's final, super Ice Beam combo, which manages to hit Salamence critically and do a ridiculous amount of damage. Both pokemon look tired out, but this game still seems to be up for grabs.

Calculations

Post Round Stats:

King Serperior

HP: 30 | EN: 22
Spe: 85 | Ranks: 3/2/4/3
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Other: Cooldown A1

VS.

LadySalamence

HP: 4 | EN: 24
Spe: 100 | Ranks: 6/3/3/3
Abilities: Intimidate, Moxie
Other:

ORDER
King Serperior
Lady Salamence
Me

Maxim · Jun 20th, 2012, 10:44:43 AM

Wait a minute what? You said last round specifically that Salamence's substitute broke, but now she has one left?

Pwnemon · Jun 20th, 2012, 10:48:58 AM

"With two mighty Dragon Claws, Salamence ends Pyroak's sweep. All Pyroak managed to do was to break Salamence's doll, but that even seemed meaningless due to Salamence receiving its wish during its attacks."

yeah the disparity between flavor and reality there is most certainly grounds for a reorder

Dogfish44 · Jun 20th, 2012, 11:05:24 AM

There was originally a crit on that substitute which was removed with no reason afaik. That Mence should be dead, and if there was a change to a reffing you should inform the players before you ref the next round.

This actually really annoys me, it's a shoddy reffing in a tourney, where the maximum reffing quality is expected.

Lady Salamence · Jun 20th, 2012, 12:16:20 PM

what the hell

ffs >.<

ks we need to discuss this

also: glacier says: I noticed that Typon77 didn't show or calc that Moxie on salamence was activated. It did kil pyroak right? therefore, you should have a +1atk boost to all those EQs.

Gerard · Jun 20th, 2012, 11:59:42 PM

Quote:

22:54 Gerard Deck, what was the ruling about critical hits on a pokemon with substitute?
22:54 Deck_Knight Crits can happen just like in-game

So, Crit happens, Salamence has no sub A1 and KS wins, gg everyone

Lady Salamence · Jun 21st, 2012, 12:12:33 AM

dang

gg

Orcinus Duo · Jun 21st, 2012, 12:19:12 AM

I think a reorder should take place...

Its_A_Random · Jun 21st, 2012, 12:22:08 AM

Not really, since both, iirc, made orders based on the broken substitute. Otherwise, this "ghost" edit was not on...

KS wins, & that is that. Let us move on to the next round, & onto more important things.

Lady Salamence · Jun 21st, 2012, 12:28:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Its_A_Random

Not really, since both, iirc, made orders based on the broken substitute. Otherwise, this "ghost" edit was not on...

since gerard ordered for me, you'd have to ask him...

King Serperior · Jun 21st, 2012, 12:38:28 AM

Either way, GG to all who witnessed and participated in this battle!

Lady Salamence · Jun 21st, 2012, 12:38:56 AM

gg

this isnt over you bastard

Flamestrike · Jun 21st, 2012, 12:32:41 PM

As far as I can tell the old reffing was edited after both players had ordered, so they theoretically must have ordered with the lack of a Substitute in mind. Because of this, I'm going to agree that no reorder is required since at the time of ordering both players had full knowledge of the true condition of both Pokemon. Therefore, unless a mod or promod tells me that the Substitute edit happened before the players ordered, King Serperior is the winner.

King Serperior · Jun 21st, 2012, 12:43:43 PM

Ok, um, are the prizes standard for winning or are they different in Tourneys?
Can't claim without knowing...

typon77 · Jun 21st, 2012, 12:53:01 PM

I'm sorry about all of the problems guys. It was a rushed reffing and I got multiple opinions on what could happen. Still busy IRL so I'll do rewards now

Rewards
King Serperior gets 2 CC and Soldiers of Gaia move on
Gyarados, Pyroak, and Nidoking get 3 MC each
Pyroak gets 2 KOC, and Nidoking gets 1 KOC

Lady Salamence gets 2 CC
Machamp, Emboar, and Salamence get 3 MC each
Machamp and Salamence get 1 KOC each

I (reluctantly) get 7 UC..

Son_of_Shadoo · Jun 23rd, 2012, 6:46:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Dogfish44

This actually really annoys me, it's a shoddy reffing in a tourney, where the maximum reffing quality is expected.

Quoted for truth.

Jun 15th, 2012, 10:53:27 PM	#51
King Serperior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,827 I am an "Andalite Bandit." Shiver in fear while you can, Yeerks. We're coming for you!	All I got is Nidoking. Let's go and let your cry scare all who oppose!! __________________ CAP ASB Team Read the Animorphs here. Seriously, click the link if you're a fan or are interested!! Notice: will be inactive for a day or two. Shouldn't be more than 2 days.. Sorry, please forgive me.

Jun 16th, 2012, 3:09:01 PM	#52
Lady Salamence radda radda Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,281 ROFL ROFL ROFL	Other: Substitute (15 HP), Recieves a Wish A1 Ok sure E: will do actions later __________________ oh dear [sigpic] broke

Jun 17th, 2012, 8:31:21 PM	#53
Lady Salamence radda radda Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,281 ROFL ROFL ROFL	Earthquake - Earthquake - Earthquake If Protect successfully, Chill E: FUCK YOU GERARD __________________ oh dear [sigpic] broke Last edited by Lady Salamence; Jun 17th, 2012 at 10:07:40 PM.

Jun 17th, 2012, 9:15:47 PM	#54
King Serperior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,827 I am an "Andalite Bandit." Shiver in fear while you can, Yeerks. We're coming for you!	Enable Sheer Force Ice Beam~Ice Beam~Ice Beam + Ice Beam combo. One way or another, this will end!! __________________ CAP ASB Team Read the Animorphs here. Seriously, click the link if you're a fan or are interested!! Notice: will be inactive for a day or two. Shouldn't be more than 2 days.. Sorry, please forgive me.

Jun 19th, 2012, 11:51:58 PM	#55
typon77 Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,378	Pre Round Stats: King Serperior HP: 100 \| EN: 100 Spe: 85 \| Ranks: 3/2/4/3 Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force Other: VS. LadySalamence HP: 100 \| EN: 57% Spe: 100 \| Ranks: 6/3/3/3 Abilities: Intimidate, Moxie Other: Substitute (5 HP) It seems that both competitors want to do some serious damage to their opponents, as they both repeatidly hammer their opposition with super effective attacks. Salamence utilizes a trio of crust-shattering Earthquakes, each of which does some serious damage to Nidoking. However, Nidoking responds with an Ice Beam to break the substitute, followed by another Ice Beam to hit the dragon right out of the sky. Nidoking is even utilizing Sheer Force to hit even harder. The truly crushing blow, however, is Nidoking's final, super Ice Beam combo, which manages to hit Salamence critically and do a ridiculous amount of damage. Both pokemon look tired out, but this game still seems to be up for grabs. Calculations Action One Salamence used Earthquake! RNG Roll (To Crit): 818/10000 (No) (10+5.5)1.5= 23.25 Damage -7 EN* Nidoking used Ice Beam! The Substitute breaks! -7 EN Action Two Salamence used Earthquake! RNG Roll (To Crit): 1077/10000 (No) (10+5.5)1.5= 23.25 Damage -11 EN* Nidoking used Ice Beam! RNG Roll (To Crit): 4757/10000 (No) RNG Roll (To Freeze): No (Sheer Force) (10+2+1.5)2.25= 30.375 Damage! -11 EN* Action Three Salamence used Earthquake! RNG Roll (To Crit): 1518/10000 (No) (10+5.5)1.5= 23.25 Damage -15 EN* Nidoking used Ice Beam+Ice Beam! RNG Roll (To Crit): 623/10000 (Yes) RNG Roll (To Freeze): No (Sheer Force) (22.5+3+2+1.5)2.25= 65.25 Damage -59.5 EN* Post Round Stats: King Serperior HP: 30 \| EN: 22 Spe: 85 \| Ranks: 3/2/4/3 Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force Other: Cooldown A1 VS. LadySalamence HP: 4 \| EN: 24 Spe: 100 \| Ranks: 6/3/3/3 Abilities: Intimidate, Moxie Other: ORDER King Serperior Lady Salamence Me __________________ CAP ASB Team \| Reffing Profile i asked for an adamant orb but they traded me an adamant voltorb how can i report htem

Jun 20th, 2012, 10:44:43 AM	#56
Maxim Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,459	Wait a minute what? You said last round specifically that Salamence's substitute broke, but now she has one left? __________________ The avatar was taken from Marriland. CAP ASB Join Free RPG to play fun, freestyle RPGs.

Jun 20th, 2012, 10:48:58 AM	#57
Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,973 Maryland	"With two mighty Dragon Claws, Salamence ends Pyroak's sweep. All Pyroak managed to do was to break Salamence's doll, but that even seemed meaningless due to Salamence receiving its wish during its attacks." yeah the disparity between flavor and reality there is most certainly grounds for a reorder __________________ [11:56pm] Pwnemon: statutory rape and all [11:56pm] bmelts: i have such a huge boner right now [9:28pm] Kadew: pwnemon that signature is like an x marking the spot of treasure, except instead of treasure its a pile of humorous garbage that turtles crapped out

Jun 20th, 2012, 11:05:24 AM	#58
Dogfish44 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,353 Deity of Misfortune	There was originally a crit on that substitute which was removed with no reason afaik. That Mence should be dead, and if there was a change to a reffing you should inform the players before you ref the next round. This actually really annoys me, it's a shoddy reffing in a tourney, where the maximum reffing quality is expected. __________________ CAPASB Team & Reffing Profile ASB Ruling? It might be here! 02:47:37 AM ~ <%Objection> i'm neutral on boobs

Jun 20th, 2012, 12:16:20 PM	#59
Lady Salamence radda radda Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,281 ROFL ROFL ROFL	what the hell ffs >.< ks we need to discuss this also: glacier says: I noticed that Typon77 didn't show or calc that Moxie on salamence was activated. It did kil pyroak right? therefore, you should have a +1atk boost to all those EQs. __________________ oh dear [sigpic] broke

Jun 21st, 2012, 12:12:33 AM	#61
Lady Salamence radda radda Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,281 ROFL ROFL ROFL	dang gg __________________ oh dear [sigpic] broke

Jun 21st, 2012, 12:19:12 AM	#62
Orcinus Duo Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,751 Halcyon days	I think a reorder should take place... __________________ typon77: orcinus is sex 13:38 SimonSays Okay, start pulling out. 13:38 SimonSays Let her sleep for the night. Stroke softly the tigers of flame, you've nothing to fear. i'm just the matchmaker

Jun 21st, 2012, 12:22:08 AM	#63
Its_A_Random Points out the obvious Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 6,545 A country full of spiders	Not really, since both, iirc, made orders based on the broken substitute. Otherwise, this "ghost" edit was not on... KS wins, & that is that. Let us move on to the next round, & onto more important things. __________________ [11:42:06] <&@elevator_music> uggh \| [11:42:07] <&@elevator_music> iar \| [11:42:09] <&@elevator_music> because of you \| [11:42:22] <&@elevator_music> a lot of my notes in class are filled with &s

Jun 21st, 2012, 12:38:28 AM	#65
King Serperior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,827 I am an "Andalite Bandit." Shiver in fear while you can, Yeerks. We're coming for you!	Either way, GG to all who witnessed and participated in this battle! __________________ CAP ASB Team Read the Animorphs here. Seriously, click the link if you're a fan or are interested!! Notice: will be inactive for a day or two. Shouldn't be more than 2 days.. Sorry, please forgive me.

Jun 21st, 2012, 12:38:56 AM	#66
Lady Salamence radda radda Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,281 ROFL ROFL ROFL	gg this isnt over you bastard __________________ oh dear [sigpic] broke

Jun 21st, 2012, 12:32:41 PM	#67
Flamestrike Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,565	As far as I can tell the old reffing was edited after both players had ordered, so they theoretically must have ordered with the lack of a Substitute in mind. Because of this, I'm going to agree that no reorder is required since at the time of ordering both players had full knowledge of the true condition of both Pokemon. Therefore, unless a mod or promod tells me that the Substitute edit happened before the players ordered, King Serperior is the winner. __________________ Nuzlocke Thread! The latest update for my Diamond challenge is here CAP ASB Team

Jun 21st, 2012, 12:43:43 PM	#68
King Serperior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,827 I am an "Andalite Bandit." Shiver in fear while you can, Yeerks. We're coming for you!	Ok, um, are the prizes standard for winning or are they different in Tourneys? Can't claim without knowing... __________________ CAP ASB Team Read the Animorphs here. Seriously, click the link if you're a fan or are interested!! Notice: will be inactive for a day or two. Shouldn't be more than 2 days.. Sorry, please forgive me.

Jun 21st, 2012, 12:53:01 PM	#69
typon77 Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,378	I'm sorry about all of the problems guys. It was a rushed reffing and I got multiple opinions on what could happen. Still busy IRL so I'll do rewards now Rewards King Serperior gets 2 CC and Soldiers of Gaia move on Gyarados, Pyroak, and Nidoking get 3 MC each Pyroak gets 2 KOC, and Nidoking gets 1 KOC Lady Salamence gets 2 CC Machamp, Emboar, and Salamence get 3 MC each Machamp and Salamence get 1 KOC each I (reluctantly) get 7 UC.. __________________ CAP ASB Team \| Reffing Profile i asked for an adamant orb but they traded me an adamant voltorb how can i report htem