Project Ubers 2.0

[sithsniper17]

Honchkrow @ Life Orb
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Sucker Punch
- Heat Wave
- Superpower
- Roost

This looks like standard UU Sucker Punch Krow, but it actually performs nastily well in Ubers. For starters, Sucker Punch off of 125 base Attack is no laughing matter--especially in a Dark-weak Ubers tier. Once it gets going with Moxie, it powers through teams like no tomorrow. Few Pokemon can truly take a STAB Sucker Punch or a Superpower. Superpower hits fellow Dark-types and Rock- and Steel-types, and Heat Wave OHKO's Ferrothorn and Forretress (barring Sturdy, of course). Roost helps mitigate LO recoil and the likely Stealth Rocks. Terrakion and Arceus pose problems to this set, as well as the aforementioned Rocks. But it's a set that with the right support can catch unwary players off guard and punch a hole or two in an experienced team. It also catches people who aew unaware that Honchkrow has DW Moxie really off guard, and can work very well in the right hands. I was trolololled once by this set and was powerless to stop it.

[Mr.lol]

Dialga @ Leftovers
Trait: Presssure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
- Substitute
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Tail / Roar
- Fire Blast

This is basically a Dialga that screws over stall teams IF hazards are present. The idea is kind of simple. Get a substitute up and spam Dragon Tail or Roar, hitting foes that you feel might get OHKOed or 2HKOed by Fire Blast or Draco Meteor (you can afford to stay in for two turns thanks to Sub). With lots of hazards this Dialga can actually quite easily wear a team down. Its not like Giratina-a either that gets threatened by Forry, seeing as it can just fry the thing with Fire Blast. Not much will avoid getting 2HKOed or OHKOed by the listed moves, and the things that don't get 2HKOed (Chansey) generally fail to break the Substitute. Its possible to remove a lot of Special Attack investment and throw it into Speed to outspeed certain mons (you can actually invest to outspeed no investment Lugia and the difference won't be that large lol), since Dialga can generally afford the power loss thanks to the additional damage entry hazards can provide. Its generally not recommended though since max Special Attack investment gives you the best chance to OHKO Ho-Oh after Rocks, but what's funny is that you wall that mon if rain is up and it lacks Earthquake. You can pp stall its Sacred Fires out since it takes two of them to break a Sub, but you might get pp stalled back too if your using Dragon Tail so...

This is pretty nice for both stall and offensive teams. On stall, its one of the best ways to point and laugh at Ferrothorn / stall breaker Heatran lacking Substitute (if using Dragon Tail) / Genesect. On offense, the shuffling and stall breaking helps other mons sweep. Against extremely offensive teams, a mon will generally be forced to go down or get weakened to break Dialga's substitute.

[EspeonX]

I have tested the SubRoar Dialga set, and I can attest to it's effectiveness, though I haven't actually had enough of an opportunity to get a Sub up, though this is against offensive teams. Against stall, it works. Ferrothorn and Forretress can be removed rather easily with this set, and it supports the team by clearing the way for my own spinner (Forretress) to come in and get rid of all of the hazards that had been setup. It is quite effective.

[Dracoyoshi8]

@ Icicle Plate
Trait: Multitype
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Speed
Timid Nature
-Blizzard
-Thunder
-Recover
-Calm Mind

Some people would say that relying on a 70% accurate STAB move is foolish. Some people are PANSIES. This is Ubers, where powerful Pokemon use powerful attacks against powerful players. And what is more powerful than STAB Icicle Plated boosted Blizzard?

NOTHING.

In comparison, look at these calcs:
252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Darkrai: 243-286 (86.17 - 101.41%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
--Judgment: 72.34 - 85.1%

252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 144 SpD Arceus-Grass: 338-398 (76.12 - 89.63%) -- 18.75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
--Judgment: 63.51 - 74.77%

252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 80 SpD Lugia: 288-342 (69.23 - 82.21%) -- 56.25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
--Judgment: 57.69 - 68.26%

+1 252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 248 HP / 84 SpD Ho-Oh: 216-255 (52.04 - 61.44%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Judgment: 43.37 - 51.32%

+1 252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Giratina: 422-500 (83.89 - 99.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
--Judgment: 70.37 - 82.7%

+1 252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 204 HP / 0 SpD Mewtwo: 364-429 (90.09 - 106.18%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
--Judgment: 75.24 - 88.61%

+1 252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Palkia: 285-336 (88.78 - 104.67%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Judgment: 73.83 - 87.22%

+1 252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Reshiram: 285-336 (83.57 - 98.53%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
--Judgment: 69.5 - 82.11%

+2 252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 88 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Normal: 381-448 (94.54 - 111.16%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
--Judgment: 78.41 - 92.55%

+2 252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 208+ SpD Ferrothorn: 297-351 (84.37 - 99.71%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
--Judgment: 70.73 - 83.52%

+2 252 SpA Icicle Plate Arceus-Ice Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Dialga: 366-432 (90.59 - 106.93%) -- 81.25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
--Judgment: 75.74 - 89.1%

Yeah, pretty sweet. I think its time to reevaluate the risk vs reward argument. Stay frosty.

[lousy918]

? we don't rely on inaccurate moves if there are better alternatives available

252 SpA Choice Specs Kyurem-W Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 144 SpD Arceus-Grass: 432-510 (97.29 - 114.86%) -- 81.25% chance to OHKO

hence idk how common is this set but


Zekrom @ Life Orb
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Hone Claws
- Outrage
- Bolt Strike

As we all know, Zekrom lures in Ferrothorn all day. This set capitalizes on that fact by setting up substitutes that block Leech Seed, T-Wave, and Zekrom resists Ferrothorn's STABs. It can also set up on Forretress. Substitute prevents revenge killing as well.
Why full speed then? Even with 252 HP, its subs are still getting broken in 2 hits from Ferrothorn anyway, while full speed allows it to outspeed Adamant Offensive SR Groudon, Lugia, and other non-fully invested base 90s. It will then proceed to 2HKO or OHKO them.
Life Orb allows it to get several notable KOs, mainly
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Zekrom Outrage vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Dialga: 364-429 (90.09 - 106.18%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

+1 252 Atk Life Orb Zekrom Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Normal: 394-464 (88.73 - 104.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

[kakuna]

Rargh this is a good thread

Dialga @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 56 SAtk / 200 SpD
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Toxic
This is a take on bulky dialga that I really like. Toxic is the only unusual thing here and I admit it seems pretty counter intuitive to run toxic on a pokemon with such incredible power. As it turns out dialga can't smash everything though, and the ability to destroy all arceus forms (barring poison and steel), ho-oh, lugia, and other special tanks (tyranitar etc.) is just amazing. Toxiced Ho-oh is sort of useless, and so is lugia. Arceus water and grass are useless, ghost is stopped, ground is stopped, rock is stopped, psychic is stopped, fighting is stopped, and recover normal is stopped. I haven't bothered to tinker the EVs yet.

[Naby]

Terrakion @ Leftovers / Salac Berry / Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Close Combat
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

That's the solution against the defensive core Ferrothorn (with Protect) + Giratina, which can stop the Terrakion's role with a good prediction. This is a surprising set, because everyone wait for a Scarf set on Terrakion. With this set, Terrakion can easily set up a sub in Giratina's face and start his set up. Don't worry, becuase Dragon Tail won't break the sub. With the help of the Salac Berry, Terrakion can outspeed practically the full metagame, and a +2 Terrakion with a sub is unstoppable. Lefties helps to recover the HP lost in Substitute, and LO if we want extra power.

[Princess Bri]

The thing with Substitute Terrakion is that most competent players don't run Dragon Tail + Will-o-Wisp. Rather, Roar instead of Dragon Tail on most sets for the omnipresent Ho-Oh and other extraneous Substitute attackers like the Terrakion you posted. I'm not saying that this is a bad set at all; however, you made it seem like breaking Ferrothorn + Giratina was its main draw which it does not accomplish well.

[puregenius]

Giratina-O @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 176 Spd
X Nature
- Tailwind
- Destiny Bond
- Filler
- Filler

an idea for a set i had
usually destiny bond is too slow to take advantage of with gira o, but with tailwind he can outpace just about anything
the evs allow him to outspeed scarf terra after a tailwind and the rest of the evs would vary depending on ur filler moves
is also a cool check to ek arceus to bring momentum to ur side

tailwind as he shadow claws
destiny bond for the kill
abuse remaining turns of tailwind with stuff like specs ogre

atm im not really sure how to finish this set, but i feel it has potential
obviously, this fares much better against offensive teams than defensive ones

[Aquasition]

Originally Posted by Fat puregenius

Giratina-O @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 176 Spd
X Nature
- Tailwind
- Destiny Bond
- Filler
- Filler

an idea for a set i had
usually destiny bond is too slow to take advantage of with gira o, but with tailwind he can outpace just about anything
the evs allow him to outspeed scarf terra after a tailwind and the rest of the evs would vary depending on ur filler moves
is also a cool check to ek arceus to bring momentum to ur side

tailwind as he shadow claws
destiny bond for the kill
abuse remaining turns of tailwind with stuff like specs ogre

atm im not really sure how to finish this set, but i feel it has potential
obviously, this fares much better against offensive teams than defensive ones

Holy tailwind, Batman!

If I am correct, one of the main things holding Gira-O back is his lacklustre speed. This would allow him to patch it up. Both tailwind and Destiny bond are extremely unexpected in Gira-O. Now throw in some attacks of your choice, and you have something extremely dangerous.