|May 11th, 2012, 2:04:30 PM||#1|
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Pokémon Stadium (Includes a Guide!)
(Credits to pokedream.com)
Pokémon Stadium was the first time that Western gamers were able to see their Pokémon duke it out in glorious 3D. While it wasn't as refined as its sequel, it nevertheless holds a place in my heart.
Since Pokémon Stadium has received little discussion and is so different from the standard RBY competitive metagame, I've compiled a guide. If you're looking for general information, want to finally beat this game, or are just searching for efficient strategies, this guide has you covered!
II. General Information
Differences from Standard RBY (compiled by me!)
How to Get Surf Pikachu (credits to Azure Heights, posted and credited on Bulbapedia by me)
III. Pokémon Stadium is NOT Standard RBY!
This should be obvious. However, I've seen people play in-game with a competitive mindset for some bizarre reason, so I decided to add a note.
You will never fight a 6v6 level 100 battle in the main game. Every team you face will not contain Tauros, Chansey, Starmie, Exeggutor, etc. In addition, some competitive clauses go out the window. Want to spam evasion moves? Go ahead! If you want to try your luck at OHKOs, the computer won't complain. You can even take advantage of tradeback moves from GSC; although the moves will be highlighted in pink, you'll still be allowed to use the Pokémon.
In addition, Stadium fixes many glitches found in the carts and implements other changes. A list of changes can be found in a link above, but here are the major changes:
IV. Other Notes
V. General Rules
Here's a refresher:
VI. Quick and Dirty Guide
If you want to breeze through the game, you're in luck. The Gym Leader Castle and half of the cups can be completed with just one Pokémon, and the Mewtwo battles are a joke. Only the Round 2 Petit and Poké Cups require some thought.
A. Gym Leader Castle
Every Pokémon is allowed in the Gym Leader Castle. Obviously, one Pokémon destroys this section: Mewtwo. With the following set, you'll crush every opponent with ease:
(If your Mewtwo is level 100, make sure it has at least 404 HP so that it can make 101 HP Substitutes that aren't broken by Seismic Toss.)
This is the most powerful set in Pokémon history. Period. Set up a Substitute to block any status effects or stat-lowering moves, Amnesia until Mewtwo has 999 Special, and blow through everything with Psychic. Recover if necessary. The poor computer doesn't stand a chance. :)
If you think that Mewtwo is "cheap", just look at the Poké Cup section for advice.
B. Prime Cup
Use Mewtwo in both rounds.
C. Pika Cup
A list of Pokémon you can obtain legitimately can be found here:
(Note: Only Mewtwo and Mew are explicitly banned. With glitches, you can obtain any of the other 149 Pokémon at level 15-20. If you want to use a level 20 Zapdos, be my guest. :) )
Unfortunately, Mewtwo is banned. Fortunately, another Psychic-type is there to pick up the reins: Starmie!
Starmie (level 20)
(Thanks to SadisticMystic for this strategy.)
A level 20 Starmie can single-handedly demolish the opponents in both rounds. Even level 15 Pokémon that are hit for neutral damage will be OHKOed by Starmie's high-powered attacks. The Fisher in Round 2 may give you some trouble due to Thunder Wave, but that's what Continues are for. If you don't fear Exeggutor, you could also replace Blizzard with Substitute since Ground-types are hit by Surf, most other Grass-types are part Poison, and Dragon-types are nearly nonexistent. If your Starmie's Special is lacking, you can also replace Thunderbolt with Thunder for extra power.
D. Petit Cup
A list of eligible Pokémon can be found here:
No Pokémon can single-handedly plow through the Petit Cup, so teamwork is finally required. Fortunately, most of the Pokémon in the Petit Cup are horrible, so it's easy to weed out the trash.
Gastly (level 30)
-Explosion / Substitute
With two immunities, 100 base Special, and 80 base Speed, Gastly is the king of the Petit Cup. It obtains excellent coverage, and can go out with a bang with Explosion or set up a Substitute to make up for its frailty. When one of the Nerd's Pokémon uses Selfdestruct or Explosion, just switch this in and laugh.
Abra (level 30)
-Thunder Wave/elemental punch*
While Abra has the durability of a wet tissue, its 105 base Special and 90 base Speed allows it to demolish many of the Pokémon in the Petit Cup. Like Starmie, it can easily OHKO low-level Pokémon that take neutral damage from its attacks. Substitute is handy, but the other two moves are basically filler.
If you have access to tradebacks, the elemental punches are also nice. Exeggcute is ruined by Fire/Ice Punch, but otherwise, Psychic will suffice. Even against opposing Psychics, the 30% Special drop is handy.
Meowth is godly with tradebacks. It has 90 base Speed, Amnesia to buffer its Special, and a hard-hitting STAB Slash. Very fun.
Dragon Rage is killer in the Petit Cup, as it easily 2-3HKOs most Pokémon. If that doesn't strike your fancy, Dratini can buff its Speed with Agility and slowly kill the opponent with Wrap. While Wrap has sub-par accuracy, Dratini has the bulk to take a hit.
Other decent Pokémon include Geodude, Sandshrew, Dragon Rage Pokémon, Surf Pikachu, and Amnesia Psyduck (though you get the last two very late).
E. Poké Cup
The Poké Cup is the most skill-intensive Cup, as you can't breeze through with one Pokémon and there are a myriad of viable choices. Fortunately, this Cup is similar to standard play, so your bog standard team will work here!
Here's the team I used:
Obviously, I used Starmie/Tauros and two level 50s in every match. I prefer Golem in standard play, but went with Rhydon in Stadium since Explosion costs a Continue. While I used Blizzard on Starmie for the Old Man's Dragonite, Thunderbolt is also a good choice due to the myriad of Water-types.
With a decent team, the Poke Cup isn't too hard.
Mewtwo is a piece of cake. With Rentals, there's a Round 1 strategy that's guaranteed to succeed, and a Round 2 strategy with an 83.2% minimum chance of success.
Select Electrode, Exeggcute, Onix, and Rhydon. Lead with Electrode, and paralyze Mewtwo with Thunder Wave. Then, just lower Mewtwo's accuracy with Flash until Electrode faints.
Send out Exeggcute and use Selfdestruct. Mewtwo will be damaged, but will be unable to attack. Then, send out Onix and use Selfdestruct. Finally, send out Rhydon and use Earthquake to seal the deal.
I don't know Mewtwo's stats, so I can't provide any damage calculations. However, I've tried this battle multiple times, and I've always succeeded.
Mewtwo is stronger, so the previous tactic won't work. However, you can still cheese your way to victory with OHKOs. In Generation I, OHKOs only work if the opposing Pokémon is slower. So, you'll need to paralyze Mewtwo, then fire off OHKOs until Mewtwo falls.
Select Electrode and five other Pokémon with OHKO moves, such as Dewgong, Seaking, Omastar, Rhydon, and Kingler. Mewtwo is faster than Electrode this time; however, it always starts with Amnesia, so you can safely Thunder Wave. Then, use Flash until Electrode falls. From there, fire away OHKOs until one side is defeated. You have five chances to fire off OHKOs for an 83.2% chance of victory. Keep in mind that Mewtwo may be fully paralyzed or miss due to Flash, and I've seen Dewgong live an Amnesia-boosted Thunderbolt, so you may have more chances to fire off OHKOs.
When Mewtwo faints, congratulations! You've beaten a Nintendo 64 children's game!
VII. Notable Tradebacks
Here are some notable moves gained through tradebacks, courtesy of Bulbapedia and Pidgeot500's tradeback guide (http://www.smogon.com/rb/articles/tradebacks). NYPC moves are excluded since the vast majority of readers don't legitimately have access to them. Some notable examples are:
Rock Slide Charizard
Amnesia, Hypnosis Persian
Elemental punches Alakazam
Amnesia, elemental punches Hypno
Elemental punches Gengar
Elemental punches Electabuzz
Hydro Pump Dragonite
Here's a comprehensive list for the Petit Cup:
Sleep Powder, Razor Leaf (level 27) Bulbasaur
Drill Peck Spearow (learns Drill Peck at level 29 in RBY)
Focus Energy Nidoran(F)
Fire Spin Vulpix
Razor Leaf Oddish
Slash, Spore Paras (learns Spore at level 27 in RBY)
Sleep Powder Venonat
Slash, Amnesia Meowth
Elemental punches Abra
Razor Leaf Bellsprout
Hypnosis Gastly (learns Hypnosis at level 27 in RBY)
Sleep Powder Exeggcute
Rock Slide Cubone
I could provide sample movesets, but it would basically be, "Less Hyper Beam, more Substitute, Focus Energy, and Double Team". Now go and thrash the computer!
|May 11th, 2012, 2:14:58 PM||#2|
sometimes experimentation begins with "let's multi battle strip pokémon"
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You should take Hydro Pump Dragonite off the list - that one's a NYPC event move.
|May 16th, 2012, 5:15:53 PM||#3|
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Could the guide be updated to be about using rentals...right now it's kind of a "use OU RBY sets" type deal, and that's no good.
|May 16th, 2012, 7:05:04 PM||#4|
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|Jul 23rd, 2012, 9:08:30 PM||#5|
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Thanks for posting this guide. It helped me, even though I'm still trying. That Petit Cup is really difficult.