PU - NU in NU [Other Metagame of the Month] - Page 5

DragonBorn · Feb 14th, 2013, 8:56:02 PM

Im going to have alot of fun with this tier =D

Basileus · Feb 14th, 2013, 9:04:21 PM

Is this really official or what? Are they going to add this to PoSho? Will we not be allowed to use NU Pokemon in this tier? What does PU stand for? This looks like a great idea but I am not searching through this thread to find all the answers. Can we get an FAQ on this thread?

***Zebraiken**** · Feb 14th, 2013, 9:09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Basileus

Is this really official or what? Are they going to add this to PoSho? Will we not be allowed to use NU Pokemon in this tier? What does PU stand for? This looks like a great idea but I am not searching through this thread to find all the answers. Can we get an FAQ on this thread?

It's not official. You can challenge people to PU on PS, but there is no ladder.

BlankZero · Feb 15th, 2013, 12:42:31 AM

I could see me trying this out. Cool meta.

thesynchrohero · Feb 15th, 2013, 5:30:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Skyshayde

Mhm, DTC told me to make mine the unnofficial official othermeta's server, so here you go

http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/~~ot...p.com:80/lobby

NU = PU
Hackmons = BW Cup

I'm working on something to let me add a tier, but it might not work

I can't get onto it.

DragonBorn · Feb 18th, 2013, 7:23:14 PM

If anyone wants to help me and a few friends are making analyses for all the Pokemon in pu so that people have access to analyses and viable sets for all the Pokemon if your interested please notify me thru pm

JirachiCelebiMew · Feb 18th, 2013, 7:29:18 PM

Where are you going to post the analyses?

DragonBorn · Mar 1st, 2013, 12:40:49 PM

There all in the group Project Pu atm unitl i can , and i hope i can get this, get a official smogon website tier list like what Nu and the other higher tiers have

***Antar**** · Mar 1st, 2013, 12:50:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat DragonBorn

get a official smogon website tier list like what Nu and the other higher tiers have

Like this one?

DragonBorn · Mar 4th, 2013, 1:10:03 PM

No like this

Except where it says nu in the url, i want it to be pu in there

DragonBorn · Mar 5th, 2013, 9:25:04 AM

Can anyone help with Project Pu? It seems im the only one working on it and i need some help i have nearly 100 Pokemon to do!! i think thats including NFE's though

Governess · Mar 5th, 2013, 6:13:37 PM

This sounds like a really fun tier. I'd play it when/if it gets official. If there is any way I could help with it, I would. I'm all for the volunteering! :)

Yarnus of Bethany · Mar 5th, 2013, 7:17:12 PM

I'd write analyses if I was able to play it. How can I?

DragonBorn · Mar 6th, 2013, 9:38:34 AM

@yarnus of Bethany i dont understand your question

Agent Gibbs · Mar 6th, 2013, 10:19:47 AM

He's asking how you can play PU. To answer that, to my knowledge, there is no PU ladder that you can currently play on. The best way is just to ask around PS! and see if there is anyone else who wants to have a PU match. There also seems to be a lot of people who have posted in this thread that are interested in PU, so perhaps you can message some of these members and see if they would play.

DragonBorn · Mar 8th, 2013, 10:36:45 AM

Oh ok thank for that Gibbs =D. And yes its pretty much as Gibbs says it. However i have a list of , what i beleive to be, USEABLE NFEs and sets so check out the group and if you have any im-put please tell!!

NeverUsedTier · Mar 14th, 2013, 1:46:15 AM

lol still waiting for this to become official. i dont see why it hasnt, it would make a lot of people very happy, including me because NU hasnt seen much originality lately. i dont think it would hurt anyone really. i dont think it would change NU very much either. it would probably make a big spark in the whole pokemon community with a lot of people wanting to play the new tier. i seriously would do anything to make this tier official and supported by pokemon showdown and have an official tier list.

NARFNra · Mar 14th, 2013, 2:52:50 AM

It's not official because it has too small of a population to really be worth officially supporting. It has a better pop than many mods, but it's still too small.

DragonBorn · Mar 14th, 2013, 10:36:59 AM

Well that is true some of my friends say gen6 will give it some hype as about a good bit of them are going to be worthless(or really just not ou , uuu , or ru material) so i cant wait for that

***Antar**** · Mar 14th, 2013, 10:52:26 AM

No, PU is unofficial because we decided it would be too detrimental for the lower meta games, namely NU. Consider what happened when Gen V NU was established: the RU player base IMMEDIATELY shrunk by more than 50%.

PU will never be supported officially, even in Gen VI, because we feel it would be simply one [edit: usage based] metagame too many.

bobbyvaporeon · Mar 14th, 2013, 11:20:12 AM

Has anyone tried out Throh in this meta?
It's basicall the PU Sawk.

NeverUsedTier · Mar 14th, 2013, 5:33:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Antar

No, PU is unofficial because we decided it would be too detrimental for the lower meta games, namely NU. Consider what happened when Gen V NU was established: the RU player base IMMEDIATELY shrunk by more than 50%.

PU will never be supported officially, even in Gen VI, because we feel it would be simply one [edit: usage based] metagame too many.

I can't believe how firmly you say it will never be official. I completely understand what you are saying, and most of your points are pretty true. But I do not think it will be too many metagames, people choose what they want to play because they like it and whats the problem with one more tier? I mean whats the problem with another tier that sets a place for pokemon that aren't ever used? I'd say over half the whole NU tier is overlooked by many people and are claimed to be unusable, uncompetitive and just down right awful. In NU there are always things that are stronger and more used. Golurk and Sawk for instance are on just about everyones team nowadays. just taking out the pokemon that you almost never see (off the top of my head; pigeot, sealo and ariados) because they are outclassed or just simply arent good enough, would do NO harm to NU because if go look at any NU RMT i promise you that most of them will have a standard/top tier team. also this gives a place to the never seen and barely discussed NFE pokes.

idk if you took any of this into consideration or the whole time you were reading this you were just thinking about how you're right and im wrong. lol im ignorant. thanks for reading :D

***Antar**** · Mar 14th, 2013, 8:38:56 PM

My point was simply that this has already been considered and decided by the Powers that Be. For the record, at the time I was strongly advocating for official PU support.

So it's not about right vs. wrong--the issue has been DECIDED, and I don't see any purpose in "looking forward" to an event that, in all probability, will never happen.

Treecko37 · Mar 14th, 2013, 9:16:09 PM

The issue I see with implementing PU as a tier is less that it will lead to one too many metagames, but mainly that it will be a dead tier. At first, all kinds of people will play it--myself included. But after a while, I could easily see it dying in popularity as MOST of PU is completely viable in NU. The same is harder to say about NU to RU. While there are plenty of NU Pokemon that are viable in RU (Piloswine, Ludicolo, etc), it's less of the case than PU to NU.

Anyways, I would love to see PU implemented strictly for the ease of finding a battle, but in the end, I think it would be a much bigger harm than it would be a benefit.

That said, I'm probably going to build a PU team later. If anyone wants to battle, drop me a VM. n_n

DragonBorn · Mar 14th, 2013, 10:20:51 PM

I agree with everything but it being harmful. But when i think of it ,it could be more of a break tier as in "im going to play this for a while because im seeing the same things over and over again in the higher tiers and just want something thats more jokey than serious". Thats a little way i view Pu as i mean just look at the name!

Feb 14th, 2013, 8:56:02 PM	#101
DragonBorn Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95 Columbia SC	Im going to have alot of fun with this tier =D __________________ you can only fail at something if you try if you dont try you cant fail =D

Feb 14th, 2013, 9:04:21 PM	#102
Basileus Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 267 The ice kingdom	Is this really official or what? Are they going to add this to PoSho? Will we not be allowed to use NU Pokemon in this tier? What does PU stand for? This looks like a great idea but I am not searching through this thread to find all the answers. Can we get an FAQ on this thread? __________________ ~Arguing with a fool proves there are two~

Feb 15th, 2013, 12:42:31 AM	#104
BlankZero Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 553 East Coast, USA	I could see me trying this out. Cool meta. __________________ A forum post should be like a skirt; long enough to cover the important bits, yet short enough to keep things interesting. Most posts on Smogon are like Pantsuits.

Feb 18th, 2013, 7:23:14 PM	#106
DragonBorn Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95 Columbia SC	If anyone wants to help me and a few friends are making analyses for all the Pokemon in pu so that people have access to analyses and viable sets for all the Pokemon if your interested please notify me thru pm __________________ you can only fail at something if you try if you dont try you cant fail =D

Feb 18th, 2013, 7:29:18 PM	#107
JirachiCelebiMew Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 248 The Great Big Sea (Montreal)	Where are you going to post the analyses? __________________ Shedinja sez: ''Enigma Berry sucks.''

Mar 1st, 2013, 12:40:49 PM	#108
DragonBorn Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95 Columbia SC	There all in the group Project Pu atm unitl i can , and i hope i can get this, get a official smogon website tier list like what Nu and the other higher tiers have __________________ you can only fail at something if you try if you dont try you cant fail =D

Mar 4th, 2013, 1:10:03 PM	#110
DragonBorn Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95 Columbia SC	No like this Except where it says nu in the url, i want it to be pu in there __________________ you can only fail at something if you try if you dont try you cant fail =D Last edited by DragonBorn; Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:14:10 PM.

Mar 5th, 2013, 9:25:04 AM	#111
DragonBorn Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95 Columbia SC	Can anyone help with Project Pu? It seems im the only one working on it and i need some help i have nearly 100 Pokemon to do!! i think thats including NFE's though __________________ you can only fail at something if you try if you dont try you cant fail =D

Mar 5th, 2013, 6:13:37 PM	#112
Governess Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 341 Never Settle For Anything Less Than 110%.	This sounds like a really fun tier. I'd play it when/if it gets official. If there is any way I could help with it, I would. I'm all for the volunteering! :) __________________ -VM or PM for an OU rate; Amateur Checker for GP. Current Projects: How to Deal with Entry Hazards in NU (Article),OU Slowbro [BW2 Revamp], NU Flareon [BW2 Update], NU Dragonair [BW2 Update]

Mar 5th, 2013, 7:17:12 PM	#113
Yarnus of Bethany Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,825 In the world, but not of the world	I'd write analyses if I was able to play it. How can I?

Mar 6th, 2013, 9:38:34 AM	#114
DragonBorn Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95 Columbia SC	@yarnus of Bethany i dont understand your question __________________ you can only fail at something if you try if you dont try you cant fail =D

Mar 6th, 2013, 10:19:47 AM	#115
Agent Gibbs Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 202 Naval Criminal Investigative Service	He's asking how you can play PU. To answer that, to my knowledge, there is no PU ladder that you can currently play on. The best way is just to ask around PS! and see if there is anyone else who wants to have a PU match. There also seems to be a lot of people who have posted in this thread that are interested in PU, so perhaps you can message some of these members and see if they would play.

Mar 8th, 2013, 10:36:45 AM	#116
DragonBorn Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95 Columbia SC	Oh ok thank for that Gibbs =D. And yes its pretty much as Gibbs says it. However i have a list of , what i beleive to be, USEABLE NFEs and sets so check out the group and if you have any im-put please tell!! __________________ you can only fail at something if you try if you dont try you cant fail =D

Mar 14th, 2013, 1:46:15 AM	#117
NeverUsedTier Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 31	lol still waiting for this to become official. i dont see why it hasnt, it would make a lot of people very happy, including me because NU hasnt seen much originality lately. i dont think it would hurt anyone really. i dont think it would change NU very much either. it would probably make a big spark in the whole pokemon community with a lot of people wanting to play the new tier. i seriously would do anything to make this tier official and supported by pokemon showdown and have an official tier list.

Mar 14th, 2013, 2:52:50 AM	#118
NARFNra Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 81	It's not official because it has too small of a population to really be worth officially supporting. It has a better pop than many mods, but it's still too small.

Mar 14th, 2013, 10:36:59 AM	#119
DragonBorn Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95 Columbia SC	Well that is true some of my friends say gen6 will give it some hype as about a good bit of them are going to be worthless(or really just not ou , uuu , or ru material) so i cant wait for that __________________ you can only fail at something if you try if you dont try you cant fail =D

Mar 14th, 2013, 10:52:26 AM	#120
*Antar That's Dr. Antar to you Super Moderator** Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,050 DC Metro Area	No, PU is unofficial because we decided it would be too detrimental for the lower meta games, namely NU. Consider what happened when Gen V NU was established: the RU player base IMMEDIATELY shrunk by more than 50%. PU will never be supported officially, even in Gen VI, because we feel it would be simply one [edit: usage based] metagame too many. __________________ Codes and Hacks I Use PBR FC: 4898-8739-8815 (See here) Black FC: 4040 5386 0128 / White 2 FC: 4771 3664 7215 My Narrated PBR & Gen V Battles My Trade Thread Convert any sim team to pkms Pokemetrics: A Blog Last edited by Antar; Mar 14th, 2013 at 11:40:40 AM.

Mar 14th, 2013, 11:20:12 AM	#121
bobbyvaporeon Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 197	Has anyone tried out Throh in this meta? It's basicall the PU Sawk.

Mar 14th, 2013, 8:38:56 PM	#123
*Antar That's Dr. Antar to you Super Moderator** Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,050 DC Metro Area	My point was simply that this has already been considered and decided by the Powers that Be. For the record, at the time I was strongly advocating for official PU support. So it's not about right vs. wrong--the issue has been DECIDED, and I don't see any purpose in "looking forward" to an event that, in all probability, will never happen.

Mar 14th, 2013, 9:16:09 PM	#124
Treecko37 welcome to the new age Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 425 radioactive	The issue I see with implementing PU as a tier is less that it will lead to one too many metagames, but mainly that it will be a dead tier. At first, all kinds of people will play it--myself included. But after a while, I could easily see it dying in popularity as MOST of PU is completely viable in NU. The same is harder to say about NU to RU. While there are plenty of NU Pokemon that are viable in RU (Piloswine, Ludicolo, etc), it's less of the case than PU to NU. Anyways, I would love to see PU implemented strictly for the ease of finding a battle, but in the end, I think it would be a much bigger harm than it would be a benefit. That said, I'm probably going to build a PU team later. If anyone wants to battle, drop me a VM. n_n __________________

Mar 14th, 2013, 10:20:51 PM	#125
DragonBorn Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95 Columbia SC	I agree with everything but it being harmful. But when i think of it ,it could be more of a break tier as in "im going to play this for a while because im seeing the same things over and over again in the higher tiers and just want something thats more jokey than serious". Thats a little way i view Pu as i mean just look at the name! __________________ you can only fail at something if you try if you dont try you cant fail =D Last edited by DragonBorn; Mar 15th, 2013 at 9:27:17 AM.