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Jun 1st, 2012, 12:24:41 PM
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May 2012 Usage Stats
Standard LC Rated
LC Lead Usage
LC Moveset Statistics
Please note that there are no 1337 stats this month as the ladder was reset. Discuss!
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Jun 1st, 2012, 1:35:34 PM
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Well, the #1 position hasn't changed, but it isn't as high in % as it was previously which is always good news. Suprised that scraggy has jumped up to #5, though and that croagunk usage has declined even with mienfoo top dog.
Murkrow is steadily climbing to no-one's surprise. I'm surprised that dwebble and snover are sitting as low as 19 and 20, both are very good in today's meta and need more usage.
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Jun 1st, 2012, 3:26:31 PM
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| 97 | Ekans | 24 | 0.894% | 21 | 0.890% | - I need to improve this >:[
Nothing is too surprising. Ferroseed seems higher than I thought it would be while Dwebble, Taillow and Houndour are lower than anticipated. Also the ~10% usage gap between Mienfoo and Misdreavus is hilarious imo.
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Jun 3rd, 2012, 2:19:48 AM
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im confused with the moveset stats.
but here are some things im surprised, yet happy about | 5 | Aipom | 111 | 4.133% | | 22 | Shroomish | 203 | 7.562% | 169 | 7.164% | | 33 | Aipom | 137 | 5.103% | 134 | 5.680% | things that need moar usage | 99 | Magby | 23 | 0.857% | 21 | 0.890% | (priority(albeit, non stab), flare blitz, 19 speed, good mixed attack stats.) | 140 | Buneary | 11 | 0.410% | 9 | 0.382% | (tricking flame orbs is fun, good movepool and fake out+quick attack, drain punch etc, also good speed and decent bulk) | 107 | Poliwag | 21 | 0.782% | 19 | 0.805% | (not much for a movepool but look at dem stats) | 113 | Krabby | 18 | 0.671% | 16 | 0.678% | (*cough* better than cranidos *cough* scarf is nice, good attack and good defense as well as agility, hone claws, swords dance etc.) | 82 | Cubone | 31 | 1.155% | 23 | 0.975% | (very underrated support set, sr, knock off and good bulk) | 78 | Larvitar | 34 | 1.267% | 30 | 1.272% | (STAB edgequake, DD, Guts. Its like a cross between timbur and scraggy, bad defensive typing but good offensively) | 63 | Anorith | 48 | 1.788% | 45 | 1.908% | (speed, attack, bulk, support moves, set up sweep etc.) | 52 | Bagon | 68 | 2.533% | 59 | 2.501% | | 38 | Nosepass | 109 | 4.060% | 105 | 4.451% | (look at those great mixed defenses and support moves....) and elekid. | 158 | Oddish | 6 | 0.224% | 6 | 0.254% | definately not happy about this.... take a look at dem defensive and offensive stats... and dat movepool. Needs less usage | 95 | Magikarp | 25 | 0.931% | 21 | 0.890% | Seriously? it gets almost as much as smoochum which also needs moar usage.
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Jun 3rd, 2012, 2:56:44 AM
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Otherwise, the stats are pretty much expected. Mienfoo's on top, and Missy is number 2. Nothing weird really, though I agree--Snover and Dwebble NEED more usage. They're monsters in today's metagame. Dwebble especially--it's almost guaranteed to get up at least Stealth Rock and Spikes.
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Jun 3rd, 2012, 4:20:26 AM
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i don't use aipom anymore....
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Jun 3rd, 2012, 8:47:48 AM
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Good to see Murkrow finally getting the attention it deserves.
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Jun 3rd, 2012, 4:14:49 PM
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Jun 3rd, 2012, 4:23:24 PM
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In a metagame where Misdreavus is number 2, and where Dwebble and Misdreavus are an amazing pair? Yeah--I've never had issues with Rapid Spin...ever. Dwebble just leads and sets up two layers, maybe even three. Or, it sets up on Hippopotas, any slow wall, even Misdreavus if Sturdy is in tact. It can threaten Murkrow, etc. With 16 Speed, Sturdy, and a lack of concern for Dwebble's well-being, you can easily set up every match.
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Jun 4th, 2012, 7:23:26 AM
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Pretty much what blarajan said. Though I've been finding frillish is actually a good stop to staryu, even with thunderbolt. Just run cursed body and you can spin-block it all day. Dwebble can also run shell smash and stealth rock very effectively on the same set, letting it always get up SR and often kill something too.
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Jun 4th, 2012, 11:06:42 AM
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Am I the only person who uses Buneary? Because it sure does seem like it. Its movepool is simply massive, and can effectively run multiple sets because of it. Just look at the Smogon page for it. 4 different and all completely viable sets, for a pokemon that gets only .410% usage? Yep, Buneary is that good. For what it lacks in U-Turn, it makes up with versatility.
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Jun 4th, 2012, 12:32:47 PM
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Jun 4th, 2012, 1:24:06 PM
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Try Healing Wish Buneary. I'm not even joking.
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Jun 4th, 2012, 7:45:32 PM
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Perhaps it's not the greatest pokemon, but it deserves much more than just 0.410% usage. That doesn't seem quite right. It's probably the result of the overcentralization of Smogon LC around a few pokemon with massive usage though. Try some new things, people. |
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Jun 4th, 2012, 8:01:07 PM
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In other news, iss and I did try Healing Wish Buneary way back when which was pretty fun, essentially giving you like 2 Drilburs or Scraggys on your team. Of course, you really could use any Healing Wish user @ Choice Scarf, but....
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Jun 5th, 2012, 7:07:51 AM
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Agreeing with Ray Jay. While there definetely has been over-centralization in the past, gligar's ban has actually put a good stop to this. There are a lot of viable things in LC, and there's lots left to be discovered in this massive tier, but due to a low player-base, there is only so much we can do to discover new threats while still keeping a viable team around it.
And what is houndour doing at #26 below gastly >:(
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Jun 5th, 2012, 8:09:03 AM
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| 44 | Drifloon | 86 | 3.204% | 72 | 3.052% |
I'll save you, floon! | 66 | Shelmet | 48 | 1.788% | 45 | 1.908% | wtf??? anyway i built a p solid team yesterday, expect me laddering when school stuff is over
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Jun 5th, 2012, 4:50:13 PM
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I've had trouble using Shelmet, actually. It's hard to use a wall that's SR weak in this meta, and although Shelmet has had success in the past as a mixed wall, holding its own against Chinchou and Staryu, it can't keep up with Misdreavus, the premier special attacker, nowadays at all. Still has some great typing for a Spiker though. What do you guys think?
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Jun 6th, 2012, 4:21:13 AM
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Ooh Drifloon. Amazingly underrated pokemon. Counters Mienfoo all day, Acrobatics hits extremely hard, and now Unburden makes you faster than every other pokemon in the metagame. Feel free to sweep, or play mindgames with their Stunky with Destiny Bond. Always takes down at least one pokemon every game, just make sure you make it count.
Well, from the point of view of a Beta LC Player, there's so many banned stuff flying around there that it seems overcentralized to me. Relatively, of course. |
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Jun 6th, 2012, 9:29:08 AM
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lol i've tested drifloon and it isn't actually very great. It can be an extreme pain to get in safely and set up safely, it's frail as fuck, most things taht it is supposed to be able to switch in to at least have one SE move (mienfoo stone edge, croagunk shadow ball/sucker punch/dark pulse, ferroseed carries twave which fucks you up, etc)
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Jun 6th, 2012, 1:35:13 PM
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Still though, when Drifloon works, it works amazingly well. Acrobatics has a surprising amount of power- I remember killing a Murkrow at 80% without Flying Gem.
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Jun 6th, 2012, 3:29:42 PM
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In terms of the Drifloon debate, I think my post in Duo Destruction shows the effectiveness of proper team building in using Drifloon. With something such as Scraggy, it can become incredibly difficult to stop but also limiting on the other team. Chieliee alluded to this; suddenly, to have a chance against Drifloon (who isn't really appearing in a wealth of battles) Mienfoo has to run Stone Edge (admittedly, this does also give it an edge against Larvesta, however). My point is that there is enough variety in the metagame to keep even very common Pokemon, such as Mienfoo, on their heels and unable to check as large portions of the metagame as they would probably like to.
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Jun 6th, 2012, 5:47:25 PM
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I mean, the metagames for Beta and Smogon are completely different because Smogon has a whole bunch of threats Beta doesn't. From what I see, there looks to be some overcentralization, but you people that actually play in Smogon LC would think different.
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Jun 7th, 2012, 11:45:09 AM
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Its kinda cool that Natu stayed at #11 for 2 months after jumping that high up. Though I don't see why people use Natu that much and use it more than Pokemon like Gastly, Timburr, Drillber, etc... |
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Jun 7th, 2012, 1:00:09 PM
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Didn't notice that. All the months before though have seen it sit around #8 and 9 so I guess it's safe to say it's stabilising.
Natu is used because it's just a great pivot and is extremely useful on offensive teams rather than having to pack a cleric, spinner, status absorber, etc. on to the team. You can't really compare natu with things like drillbur or timburr tbh as they have completely different roles.
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